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http://www.techtimes.com/articles/124968/20160116/moon-village-is-international-space-station-successor-stepping-stone-to-mars-esa-head.htm

http://www.ibtimes.com.au/esa-plans-use-moon-dust-building-materials-moon-village-1501066

http://www.spacedaily.com/reports/European_space_boss_has_crazy_Moon_Village_plan_999.html

http://www.jpost.com/Breaking-News/European-space-agency-wants-moon-village-by-2030-441655

http://canadajournal.net/science/jan-woerner-esa-chief-wants-to-establish-a-moon-village-41361-2016/

Also related:

http://spacenews.com/esa-members-give-space-agency-an-18-percent-budget-boost/
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>>17732
This contradicts NASA's stated goal of landing humans on Mars and an asteroid.
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>>17732
This is just silly. Aside from building materials, the Moon has absolutely nothing in terms of self-sustainability or scientific value.
Mars has a small percentage of oxygen content for filtering.
Mars has underground pockets of water (which could even contain alien microbial life)
Mars has an Ionosphere to protect from harsh radiation.

A moon-base would just be a more expensive version of the ISS. Fuck that.
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>>17789
It would be a huge risk to try to colonize mars without having successfully tested everything we need to do on the moon
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>>17789
>the Moon has absolutely nothing in terms of self-sustainability or scientific value
According to whom? The moon has minerals and metals both precious and rare to mine just like any other body in the solar system. There is literally 'gold in them hills'.

Do you even know what Helium-3 is?
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for what purpose
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whitey on the moon
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>>17789
Helium 3, titanium, etc
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>>17842
I think the purpose is to establish a beachhead on the moon for future missions from all countries to use as a shelter, a research station, or even a mining warehouse if it comes to that.

Think of it as sort of like the first Antarctic research station, except more international, like the ISS is now. It's a destination but it's also supposed to be a waypoint toward doing other space related things.
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>>17858
The shipping costs of any of these make it more valuable to get that stuff from Earth.

Or in the case of Helium, just build more wind turbines.
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>>17861
>The shipping costs of any of these make it more valuable to get that stuff from Earth.
Not really,.. Getting stuff from Earth to The Moon is expensive and hard, but getting stuff from The Moon to Earth is easy. You barely even need fuel to get back o Earth provided you launch from the right trajectory. The hard part is keeping any astronaut/miners alive and safe for more than a couple of days while they are out there.
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>>17859
What about prime real estate on the Moon instead of New York or Singapur etc. :-) . It's not about scientific or mining purposes but living in a super exclusive area...
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>>17789
It would make fuel-cost for rockets very low if we launch rockets from the Moon. We would need less fuel that we would here on Earth. Plus Helium-3 and other useful materials.
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>>17795
We can't successfully test everything we need to do on Mars using the Moon because the conditions are too different, and Mars is easier to survive on temporarily if there's a failure. However, if NASA is already looking at Mars, it makes sense for other agencies to focus on different areas so they can learn more and justify their budgets.
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>>17859
>a shelter
ok

>a research station
for what purpose

>a mining warehouse
completely unfeasible
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>>17972
>completely unfeasible
Yeah well 100 years ago that's what people said about the concept of a commercial airline.

I have a feeling that in another 100 years your comment would seem just as short-sighted.
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>>17977
Why do people think that "people in the past didn't think things in the future were possible that are, so you are wrong about the future too" is an argument?
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>>19258
Because people keep saying stupid, short-sighted things like that and then get proven wrong within a decade.

A good example is Bill Gates's famous quote (and I paraphrase): "640k is all the RAM a person would ever need in a PC!"
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>>17857
Ayy Howard Stern fan
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>>19264
>A good example is Bill Gates's famous quote (and I paraphrase): "640k is all the RAM a person would ever need in a PC!"
It's Bill Gates. He meant that there is no task that could be done with the current state of PC technology that would take more than 640k, not that technology would never evolve, that would be stupid.
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>>20359
Oog the caveman said man will never cross big water, water too big man can't swim that long.
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>>20522
>believes one of the fathers of home computing is that short sighted
He's not that short sighted, anon. I promise.
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>>17935
This guy gets it.
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