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http://www.newstatesman.com/world/europe/2016/01/slavoj-zizek-cologne-attacks

Not really news but I think its an important perspective. These guys were uneducated people giving the finger to a society that they were jealous of. Its not helpful to infantilise them, or to say that they are inherently evil when their behaviour is not something unique to migrants.
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Good read thanks for posting anon
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Makes me wonder if this behavior will be present in further generations of these immigrants as the years go by

Thank you for the article OP
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>>17165
A war kicking off to remove them is more likely than them ever integrating.
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>>17165
Polygamist societies value the rights of women less, and they also produce more children. These two facts are immutable.
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>>17172
So Mormons?
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>>17174
Mormonism is infamous for producing gangs of "lost boys" whose only sexual outlet is rape.
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Know some guys with levantine arabic background who where fucking BORN here (Germany).
They would join a rape mob in a heartbeat, had they known about by being in the right Facebook group.
They think German police/Law is weak.And they're right. You only go to prison after repeated violent offenses and even then it's only a ridiculously short sentence.
I was pointed to this yesterday:

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Taharrush_gamea
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>>17183
to be honest, rape mobs sound like fun and im a white dude, american german-irish. I think its just human nature. the rape thing is blown out of proportion for sure
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>>17192
dude, don't pretend to be something you're not, you fucking liar
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>>17192
Muslim detected.
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>>17181
Your link seems to be broken.
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>>17192
What are you, a primate? It's not like it takes skill to get laid these days. Most chicks will take off their clothes for some alcohol.
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>>17192
If you're lucky you might get gang raped by a mob of angry young men soon anon. In the meantime, go fuck yourself.
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>>17192
>I-I'm white!
How's the war going for you, Ahmed?
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>>17157
>Not really news but I think its an important perspective

i think i should stick my dick into your mouth and piss until you died by piss poicon.

ohh and the shit happened way outside of carneval time. someone should tell this to the fucking jew of "journalist".
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>>17192
Gangbang porn is really just simulated gang rape. We all enjoy this, but that doesn't mean we should act on that urge.

We treat dogs better than we treat porn actresses.
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>>17305
>doesn't know who slavoj zizek is
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>>17157
Just because they're jealous and hurt (oh booboo) doesn't mean they aren't subhumans based on their actions.

How they feel is irrelevant to the punishment they deserve of their crimes and their beliefs- and the punishment is, as always, deportation.
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>>17381
Prison is fine as well.
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>>17381
>We tend to forget that there is nothing redeeming in suffering: being a victim at the bottom of the social ladder does not make you some kind of privileged voice of morality and justice
Can't wait to take this tidbit to my grad school courses to irritate people
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>>17157
>behaviour is not something unique to migrants.

It sure seems like it is.

Zizek is fitting a square peg into a round hole.

>The difficult lesson of this entire affair is thus that it is not enough to simply give voice to the underdogs the way they are: in order to enact actual emancipation, they have to be educated (by others and by themselves) into their freedom.

What patronizing filth that denies the fact that a bunch of guys wanted to cop a feel off foreign ladies. No, it must be some sort of protest or social statement.

Here's a fucking social statement, migrants are willing to rape and molest women in host countries.
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>>17381

He's not saying that they should get a lighter punishment you fucking moron. I don't know how you misread it like that
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> Carnival was high season for hilarity, sexuality, and youth run riot, and the crowd often incorporated cat
> torture into its rough music. While mocking a cuckold or some other victim, the youths passed around a cat,
> tearing its fur to make it howl. Faire le chat, they called it. The Germans called it Katzenmusik, a term that
> may have been derived from the howls of tortured cats. The torture of animals, especially cats, was a
> popular amusement throughout early modern Europe.

Those wacky Germans!
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>>17305
>this shit happened way outside of carnival time
What is a metaphor for 100 kiddo.
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>>17381
It's amazing how anything that isn't bitter condemnation gets read as apologetics. Zisek ain't really as hot as people make him out to be but goddamn at least the dude's trying to explain.
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>>17420
If anything he credits you as having 2 neurons to understand his point at all. If you did you would see that he's making a very similar point to yours, sans the racist vitriol.
As for the philosophical references, Zisek's habit of throwing in esoteric monkey wrenches is purely his own and reading it any other way is foolish and reeks of overcompensation.
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sniff
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> their behaviour is not something unique to migrants.

Funny that such a thing has not happened on such a scale in Germany ever before.
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Interesting - Zizek wants us to play out the allegory of the cave to 1 million vengeful sociopaths.
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>>17395
But trying to be moral and promote justice does tend to drop you down to the bottom of the social ladder.

Seriously, have any of you guys ever actually tried being nice, helping others, and following the rules as often as possible? I used to be like that when I was really young, and it turns out people (or at least kids) absolutely HATE that shit.

Which is why all our most famous peace leaders got murdered.
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>>17157
Fucking marxists always think revolution is the solution to everything. This idiot even thinks most migrants are actually fleeing danger.

There is a significant cultural difference between them and ourselves and nothing will change that. They are not paragons of good or evil and neither are we; but they are certainly destroying our culture or at least what little is left of it.
Zizek is a globalist so I'm sure he does not give a fuck.
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>>17396

I suppose the crux of the issue is really whether it is the job of the west to "educate" foreigners.

The answer, at this stage, depends on your political beliefs. The left are born out of the colonial movement, the right are disillusioned with it and trying to return to isolationism.
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>>17192
>rape mobs sound like fun
No. And I'm not white.
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>>17534
It helps to read the article.
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>>17422
>sans the racist vitriol.
Oh I'm so sorry for being upset about the thousands of rapes,crimes,murders innocent women and not only have to suffer because of subhumans

Oh I'm so sorry for being upset about subhumans who are legally,socially and economically privileged by an autistic political class

Oh I'm so sorry for being upset about being invaded by walking turdlings and seeing my homeland change

Oh I'm so sorry for thinking european countries belong to europeans

Yeah,"das raycis" ,if common sense is racist,then we all should be
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>>17192
Just because it's fun and sound's enjoyable it isn't reasonable and fine to do. And no, even primitive tribes don't do that shit.
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>>17586
What's there to read? It's nonsense sophistry meant to advance an agenda. The problem isn't islam or their culture, you fascist, it's capitalism! Of course!

No, sorry, I'm not going to sympathize with a bunch of violent idiots whose only reason for being in europe is to live off other people's tax money. The problem isn't us and our economic system, that's an insincere way of looking at a bunch of savage invaders.
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>>17602
Look kiddo, I'm not trying to get anyone to phrase your arguments in a less obnoxious way here. My point was simply that the claim that Zizek was espousing the nanny narrative so popular among liberals is false. More than that, if memory serves, the poster claimed that the attackers did what they did as a result of some kind of jealousy or inferiority complex. This is Zizek's main point, not that they don't know what they're doing but that they are purposefully rejecting the mores of an unfamiliar society as a conscious act of resistance. No dindu here, Zisek is saying migrants need to take responsibility for their actions.
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>>17612
nowhere does Zisek make that claim buddy, I think someone needs a new strawman
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>>17612

He is calling the violence fascist. Why not just read it?
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>>17157
>Its not helpful to infantilise them, or to say that they are inherently evil

Nor is it helpful (to us) to attempt to understand them or seek to educate them. We don't need them. Uneducated immigrants that hate us have NOTHING to offer us. I can't stress this enough. WE HAVE NO USE FOR THESE PEOPLE. THEY HAVE NO RIGHT TO BE HERE, AND THEY ARE NOT ENTITLED TO OUR GENEROSITY. Close our borders to them, and defend them with whatever measures are necessary to keep these barbarians out. Let them stew in their jealousy, and if they get uppity, release the wrath of God upon them.
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>>17653

If its not the immigrants its whoever the underclass of society is. The violence is what must be educated away, be it white christian violence or immigrant violence.
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>>17657
Or we could save ourselves the trouble and a bunch of raped women by not allowing millions of underclass immigrants into our countries in the first place.
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>>17658

there are already women being raped in germany by white germans constantly.
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>>17629
>rape is a result of "jealousy" or inferiority complex
>mass crime and rape from shitskins = an act of resistance against an unfamiliar society
Thanks for proving shitskins belong 10 inches under the ground.
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>>17192
NO IRISH NEED APPLY
fucking potatonigger
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>>17612
Zizek hates sjws and psuedo-commies as much as /pol/ does you fucking retard
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>>17157

My story as a kid with Muslim parents
My parents are Muslims. My parents moved to Sweden (from Algeria) when I was 10 (1999) because my dad was doing his PhD there.

Both my parents lived short periods of their youth (university) in Scotland and Germany respectively and moved back to Algeria. They payed for their studies by working and with help of family. And then moved back to work, get married etc

Even tough my parents lived some time in non-Muslim countries they always had a pretty strong faith. Unlike me who since childhood found prayer to be boring. Thanks to Sweden though I got to live in a society where you were measured by merit and behaviour. Where mainly logic ruled. Instead of how devout I am.

I may not have picked up my parents religion but I definitely picked up their honour and responsibility toward their society. To never let oneself be a burden. To pay your dues and debts. To respect your neighbours. To study as far as I'm able : be a productive and proud member of this society has has been built by generations of great people.

I'm not perfect, I have gone through the teenage. Have my memories of stupid things I have done, regrets. I can say that I never molested anyone though. That I pay my taxes. I can say I never stole. Never hit anyone unless we both were shitfaced and stupid. I can say I never put my feet on the seat in front of me on the train...
(Sorry for the bore, now to what I think, even though I'm just one voice)
Since end of 2014 I have been out of the country working on a project.

So ever since this immigration craze has started I have been gone. And it fucking horrifies me what's going on back home. My gf whom is either studying or visiting me, keeps telling em how shit is hitting the fan in Sweden and all the politicians are just following the trend of looking good by saying yes to immigrants.This is not ok. This uncontrolled immigration will hurt hurt and haunt our society for a century or more. This has to stop.
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>psycho-analysis
Into the trash it goes.
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