Now that El Chapo
Has been recaptured
What does /News/ think?
Chapo has most of the government under payroll, a theory might be he let himself get captured under agreemente that he wont be extradited, since the US or any country for that matter will put him down or lock him forever in poor codnitions
mexico doesn't have death penalty, it's actually one of his lawyers arguments against his extradition to america, if death penalty isn't allowed in mexico, giving him to the justice system of another country knowing they could kill him isn't either.
How does he do it?
How does he control entire cartels,mafia and a mexican government?
>inb4 muh alpha male bullshit
Reasonable explanations please,how do you get to be this guy and maintain that.
Having a lot of money and being absolutely ruthless. He probably gives people 2 options: join me and share in my success or I will torture and kill your entire family (and I'll do the second thing if you betray me)
Yay for the war on drugs. As long as money can be made from selling drugs, cartels will continue to sell drugs. No amount of arrests can change this. The only real winner here is the Mexican President who gains some political points. Round and round in circles we go
People evaluate risk/reward all the time. If it was too risky compared to a decent amount of other options, the increased reward wouldn't matter much. They see gangs become cartels and cartels getting away with murder, practically owning towns, then cities, then countries. Then cartels try to buy off public sentiment by giving away a small portion of their blood money to those they helped put into even more dire situations in the first place.
All fair points, and probably in the short term it does have some effect on disrupting drug trafficking and reducing the power of 1 particular cartel. But with the ever increasing worldwide demand for drugs and the power/profit vacuum created from disrupting 1 cartel, there is guaranteed to be another gang or cartel that steps up to fill the hole in drug supply. The result? Gangs/cartels become increasingly sophisticated, more efficient and potentially more violent, vying for power over drug supply in a market with insatiable demand. So in the medium to long term there will likely be no significant impact on drug trafficking or corruption by arresting cartel members
>there will likely be no significant impact on drug trafficking or corruption by arresting cartel members
I agree that on it's own it is not close to approaching all that is needed to halt cartel activities. That is a part of what I was meaning to get at in the previous post. It is an essential part of the needed consequences, however, and I think it has a significant amount of importance because of that.
We are not taking this fake arrest like a true notice... Mr Guzman is one of the richest man in the world and our government tries to cover the depreciation of our currency with this, with a low budget soup opera... Mr Guzman had been spotted in Europe and some people claims that he had been doing business with middle eastern hash dark market.
whether he's in prison or not he run mexico from his pocket unless the other cartel like the Zeta or Golfo or relative from the "Lord Of The Sky" such as his son or brother do other destructive thing in Mexico or in the US even if Chapito Guzman was in the US Prison in Chicago wouldnt matter they would just be taking him he can pay whoever he want anywhere he goes
He's wanted for crimes committed in Arizona, Texas, California, New York, and Illinois (I think).
Plus the US is pulling for extradition so that he's not put in a shitty Mexican jail he can walk right out of.
People seem to be under the impression that things will be any different in an American jail. They will not be. The first escape wasn't because the jail itself was unsafe, it was because all of the personnel were corrupt. He'll flash a wad of cash to the guards and walk out of it. The only way to be sure is to kill him.
You think all the personnel in places like ADX care?
They already hold cartel leaders, why would throwing one more in scare them anymore
Outside of Mexico people take cartels much less seriously, big fish in a small pond and all that
Easy, he's not only a cartel leader, he's by far the richest one. And large chunks of several of latin america's governments are obviously on his payroll. And the odds of him even getting sent to America are rather low thanks to his lawyers.
The cartels are also among the most powerful criminal groups in the world, what with getting away with being practically in war with both Mexico and the USA, a conflict which has been already been bloodier than, for instance, Vietnam.
I haven't followed the cartel news for awhile, I know the civilian militia or whatever cooled down, but I don't know to what ends.
How bad is the cartel in fighting? Are they basically just killing each other or do they actually kill civilians for fear tactics?
>Some are pro-death penalty but everyone fears it might get abused.
If you've ever conducted personal randomized pool polls you'll quickly realize the government is bullshitting us when it says the Mexican people support it. The Mexican people have very little faith or trust in the government.
This. If he goes back to Mexico he'll definitely get busted out of jail because he has the money to pay people off.
Do they have proof he murdered anyone? Thats one of the few reasons they really give the death penalty. That or stealing from the extremely wealthy.
>ctually kill civilians for fear tactics
Not fear tactics but kidnaps and extortions are a collateral damages of the war between them and the government.
For them is an easy way to get money to buy more guns, or in some cases the force illegals to work for them, or technicians to build the infrastructure they need for communication and shit like that.
As an example, every few weeks cameras appear all over the city in important routes, they are took down and new ones appear soon after, they found out that tech is cheaper and easier to control that a bunch of people.
So this puts several people at risks, rich people to get killed for a few pesos, poor people to get enslaved in a drug factory/plantation, professionals to be force to build technical stuff, such as radio towers and shit like that, illegal immigrants for some few dollars or to work for them, etc.
That is discounting the shootings that may happen at any moment without further notice.
So, even if they aren't bombing the subway or shit like that, the effect of the war is feel it across the society.