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http://www.dailymail.co.uk/wires/reuters/article-3382712/German-commissioner-push-EU-supervision-Poland-media-law.html

German Commissioner Guenther Oettinger will urge the European Union to start a process against Poland over its proposed law on control of state-run media, he told a newspaper on Sunday.

The Polish parliament passed an amendment to the media law, put forward by the ruling conservative-nationalist Law and Justice party (PiS), in December that gives a minister authority to appoint managers of state-run radio and television stations.

It must now be signed by the president to come into force. Critics say the law is part of PiS plans to increase state control over the media.
Oettinger said he would raise the issue at the next meeting of the European Commission on Jan. 13.

"There is a lot to be said for activating the mechanism on the rule of law and putting Warsaw under supervision," Oettinger, Commissioner for the digital economy, told Germany's Frankfurter Allgemeine Sonntagszeitung (FAS).

The mechanism was adopted by the EU in 2014 and means it can issue an early warning and enter dialogue with any member state the Commission sees as a threat to the rule of law.
If the country does not respond, the Commission can start a process which could ultimately lead to the withdrawal of its voting rights due to a breach of European values.

Without citing sources, the FAS said Commission President Jean-Claude Juncker had put the issue on the agenda of the meeting and wanted to use that instrument.

The Commission has written to Polish ministers expressing concern over the media law and seeking an explanation of how it would take EU rules on media freedoms into consideration.

It has also caused concern within the EU with its amendment to a law on the constitutional court which critics say will erode checks and balances on government powers.
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Doesn't Germany have state-run media outlets?
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>>13520
Most European countries do. The difference is how they operate. In western countries they are state owned but they internally manage themselves, Poland's government has taken them over and will directly run them. Which will make them de-facto propaganda networks.
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>>13520
Yup, and they are shamelessly publishing government propaganda. I can't remember ever hearing a critical word about our government from them.
The government also created a new law a while ago which forces everyone to pay TV license fees no matter if they actually own a TV.
Most people argue that this is unconstitutional and tried to bring this to the supreme court, but most judges are cronically overworked and will decide on whatever gives them the least amount of work.
Our legal system is turning into a complete joke, I can't wait to get out of this shithole.
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>jews can't run media

we can't allow that!
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>>13519
Poland isn't part of the EU though...
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POLSKA STRONK
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>>13525
Yes it is anon.
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>>13519
If you're asking me, they should leave the EU ASAP.
The whole concept was bound to fail sooner or later. You can't expect to have a parallel government with the ability to overrule a nations without any conflict.
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>>13532
Ah, okay. A recent member.
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>>13536
Poland would be complete and utter shit without the EU, they're basically living on drip provided by EU money pouring into the country.
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>>13553
>money pouring into the country
Maybe in 2004~2006, last time I check the EU taken an entire million (or two) more than it is giving in.
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>>13570
I can confirm what the previous anon said. Poland gets the most net money from the EU in all of Europe for a good few years already.
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>>13519
>Democracy is not democracy if we don't approve of it !!
>we will act antidemocratic and against our principles and strip a country of its deserved and well given RIGHTS (Poland gave up many things to become an EU MEMBER ffs )
>But here,let us change your laws,constitution and economy ,we know better
t. antifascist,anti-totalitarian EU

also,literally every country has a state funded media where ministers can appoint managers,eg Romania,but nobody gave a fuck when they did it

But nooo,Poland is somehow nazi

the EU will not strip Poland of voting rights because of a fucking tellie law

This entire ruse is to show that the cuckolded fagmachine bureaucrats in Brussels + Merkelreich&Corporation Lobbies a big "Fuck you" to the new conservative-nationalist ruling party in Poland

Also,there is a lot of german money in Polish media,it may count
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>>13521
The state finances that media.

Does it matter if they are managed directly or indirectly by the state?
When it is the same shit?
The state can at any time cut the money flow .

The BBC is the only state funded media that rakes in a profit.
And they are so politically biased on every issue it hurts.
A paki can see they have a given narrative and agenda.
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>>13521
The sad thing is that they are already propaganda networks. The previous government was just much more subtle. It was less covered in the media too. Helps that most of the press correspondents of western news services in Poland come from the establishment that has just lost its position.
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>>13524
jEU keeping goys in order
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>>13597
Yeah atleast Poland is being upfront about it
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DEUS VULT POLAND, FIGHT THE CRUSADES FOR EUROPE AND IGNORE THE HEATHENS OF THE EU

Love,
US Citizens
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>>13520
Is not the problem with the state regulating media rather than the state producing media? I thought that's what Poland's tiff was all about.
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The EU should rather do something about the polish government trying to fuck with the seperation of powers and shitting on its own constitution.

Control of the media is a problem, but its not the primary issue with Poland currently.
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>>13615
> Americans cheering for Facism
Not surprised tbh
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>>13519
Kinda hypocritical considering the German government is banning the media and social media from saying anything negative about the refugee crisis.
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>>13653
>Kinda hypocritical considering the German government is banning the media and social media from saying anything negative about the refugee crisis.
Nice source faggot.
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http://www.dailymail.co.uk/news/article-3252209/Chancellor-Merkel-confronts-Facebook-s-Mark-Zuckerberg-anti-immigrant-hate-posts-country-seeks-fight-against-wave-arson-attacks-aimed-refugees.html

Did you just join 4chan yesterday, this was all over the site a few months ago. inb4 >daily mail, this was just top result in google, you can find the rest.
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>>13653
no surprise, the germans just try to keep their influence on polish mass media
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>>13521
>Which will make them de-facto propaganda networks.
>>13521
>>13521
Delusional much? ALL TV stations are propaganda instruments, what else could they possibly do? It's all just a matter of who pulls their strings.
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>>13525
not part of euro-zone (not using euro as currency), but part of EU.
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kurwa mac
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>>13592
The BBC is a truely shocking news outlet now.
It shares very subtle similarities to Fox.
>Blatant political views aired
>Pathetic journalism and coverage of events.
>Excessive use of pretty pictures and graphics to keep the watcher entertained.
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>>13538
2004
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>>13832
Absolutely rite. Here's an example of Dutch state television claiming Putin ignores questions posed about the ukraine crisis. The NOS is the Dutch broadcasting service. Then we see RT with the full Putin interview. The Dutch lie to their people for propaganda purposes, but because they are "good guys", that makes it okay.

https://youtu.be/y64i2bX-t-g

Fucking daisychain.
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>>13860
But the problem is that the BBC is not paid by tax payers to entertain when it comes to news. I pay my tv license like many right wing members of Britain and grumble when I feel that I am paying for left wing propaganda.

But this said the only part of the news which is as close to objective is the BBC World Service and only because there is no point in push domestic bias to a global audience which cannot vote based on said bias.

From what I gather Fox is not classed as a news provider anymore, however I could be wrong in that.
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>>13896
Maybe, but the world service can still influence their elections. If it has a pro Israel bias and an Israeli citizen see this he can vote for a pro UK party. This is just an example.
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>>13553
How did they survive before that then?
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>>13926
I wouldn't call the life they had in Poland before that "surviving".
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>>13896

>BBC

>left wing

Both of the BBC's most recent political editors have been pretty obvious tories. BBC's bias isn't left or right wing, its towards the establishment, because it knows that the government of the day could cut its funding in an instant.
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>>13519
Lets hope their idea spreads.
Europe needs some good ol' fascism to get its shit together.
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>>13519
I don't get why it's a big deal, it's not like this will affect private media companies.
>>13926
Potatoes and crying.
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>>13525
>Pacific hemisphere fag detected
Have you seen any borders separating Poland from the EU? Have you missed Poles living all over Europe?
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>>13932
>>13951
>I wouldn't call the life they had in Poland before that "surviving".
>Potatoes and crying.
The EU wouldn't accept Poland if it wasn't prospering. During the 15 years between the fall of communism (1989) and joining the EU (2004), Poland was a thriving libertarian paradise with sex shops opposite the churches. Suddenly, the only poor people were those who wanted to be poor.
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I hope Germany invades Poland again
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Our new gov want to remove people of previous gov from the media.
Replace one propaganda with another.
Difference is that previous gov did everything what UE told them (mostly Germany), and current one want some antonomy from Brussels.
So public media stay biased as they are, only direction will change, everything will be the same, but now without Germany involved in it.
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>>14059
Would most Poles prefer not having Germany involved?
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DSLJFLKDSJFKLDJFDKF
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Poland should leave the EU anyway.
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>>13936
I'm not as certain about BBC, but here, our equivalent (NPR) is very leftist. It's also the only regular source of BBC on the radio.
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>>13553
not really. the only good thing about EU is that Russians can't invade us the way they did with Ukraine.
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>>14045
Fuck off kike
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>>14603
>Hitler is kike.
>War is peace.
Thanks, Orwell!
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this is just an excuse to put pressure on current government, which isn't on board with everything that EU wants. of course this is a attempt to consolidate power, but at this time, is it a bad thing? in some time the tables will turn and no one from current ruling party will loose all influrence in media (i.e. when current opposition wins next election)
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In short the left wingers are angry that the state media will not be spewing their left wing crap anymore. Good for Poland for installing a pro-Poland media.
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>>15546
>pro-Poland
Not pro-Pcim though...
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>>13641
I thought you hippys loved socialism? Now you get to enjoy some National Socialism...
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>>13896
>TV license

Please elaborate.
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>>13553
Poland was one of the few countries to not get cucked by the recession because of their labour oriented economy which kept them afloat.
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>>13521
Coming from a country openly against the forced refugee party, is this that bad of a thing?
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EU threatens to strip Poland of niqab.
Poland is excited.
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>>13597
>previous government was just much more subtle
You have got to be kidding me (or someone from the previous government). For the last eight years or so all of the media were full of
>muh government so gut
>hurr EU very gut
>ja ja deutschland uber alles
because along with the government they were doing everything possible to lick as much of EUs ass as possible. Now however, the current government is not that much EU-oriented and suddenly everything they do is either a democracy infringement or a full blown coup d'etat. And only a handful of people seem to understand that current government is doing pretty much exactly the same as the previous one - ruling a country their way with just one difference. The current government is trying to be less of a EUs buttlicker and more of a sovereign country.
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