New Recumbent General.
This thread is made for the discussion of velomobiles, all kinds of two-wheeled recumbents and open tricycles.
BaconRider is welcome.
>Why do people ride a recumbent?
Comfort. A recumbent is extremely comfortable, since your whole back is supported, your vision is undisturbed and there is no strain on any part of your body.
Also, depending on the type and model of recumbent, they are more aerodynamic then uprights and thus also faster.
>Why are velomobiles so expensive?
They are cheaper then high end carbon bikes if you compare the building hours-to-price. If you use one to replace your car, it will save you money in a few years of usage. If you're to poor to afford a new one, buy a second hand one, they go for about 3000e, but I've seen them for 1000e.
A few video's for the interested:
All of them:
if you have any questions feel free to ask too.
I'm not a bent rider myself (reasons). But on an upright bike, when my heart rate goes above 150 for extended periods, I tend to dip my head down periodically to help blood flow to my brain.
Do you think the prone rider position of a 'bent gets more blood flow to the brain?
On a recumbent, the rider's legs are nearly at the same height as the heart. This reduces the rider's hydrostatic pressure, thus allowing venous blood to more easily return to the heart and brain. This physiological effect of improved circulation suggests an increase in rider endurance and/or increased power output on long rides. Recumbent riders are not bent over as are conventional bike riders, and this makes breathing easier.
By the way, the recumbent is this picture is pretty much the most extreme incline, not really suitable for beginners.
< This picture is a more realist seating angle.
>implying you can easily just jump off your bike with clipless pedals
For longer journeys in flat terrain bents are by far the best choice. However in cities or on a hilly environment I'd much rather be on an upright.
You guys, this is a recumbent bicycle thread. Not a -this is better then that- thread.
Ride what you like and what fits your situation. In my case it is a recumbent.
If upright bicycles are so great, why are they so non-aerodynamic?
You're are using childish arguments to bash someones preference over the other. Please, grow up.
a non-bacon handcycle trike
[ps: the man wearing the blue jeans is Keith Bontrager]
Mate, a lounge chair is really comfortable, do you feel threatened when I say that and do you think I imply that a lounge chair is better then a roadbike?
You silly man ;-)
You've obviously never visited the Netherlands and Denmark. Recumbents are- most widely used there by normal people.
I'm not homosexual and have no desire to do so.
If you don't like recumbents, why don't you get out of this thread I made specifically FOR recumbents?
Do you want me to go posting about recumbents in other threads again? Because you're making me want to do it, and you will be the one to blame.
You're talking to a different anon there, friend. You also seem a little bent out of shape over the common 4chan usage of the word 'faggot'. Are you new? :^)
Aero is the single biggest factor involved when trying to go fast, and when trying to conserve energy while going fast. You should know this. Recumbents manage to improve aero drastically while sacrificing a bit of climbing ability and pretty much all serious offroad ability. This makes them a superior road bike. I don't give a shit about that recumbentfag's shitposting or your autistic counter-shitposting. None of that changes the facts.
(If you're wondering, no, I don't ride a recumbent. Partly because they're expensive, but more importantly because I live in a place where all the buses have bike racks designed to support upright wheelbases.)
>I've only made like 4 recumbent threads
There is a recumbentfag around somewhere who was making threads about cyclist authorities being butthurt about recumbents, posting recumbent crap everywhere and generally being an idiot. 4chan being what it is, who the fuck knows where he is.
Do you enjoy insulting other people's hobbies and interests for no good reason and making a fool out of yourself ?
ANYway, back to the topic. I just came back from a 75 kilometer recumbent group ride from Northern Germany, it was quite fun.
>Like some little rabid monkey flooding road bike threads with recumbent pictures?
When did this happen? I don't know of this.
Can you show proof, or are you just making this up because you once got smoked by an old guy on a 'bent?
What is the matter with you? Do you suffer from some sort of speech disorder? Or do you like sharing your personal fantasies online? Either way, I hope you get some help.
The amount of replies this thread has managed to accumulate after it's creation compared to upright bicycle threads surely proves that majority of /n/ are in fact fans of the recumbent bicycle.
>Are Recumbent good at climbing?
Bicycles suck at climbing m8, it's the rider that climbs.
>Can you go off road with one?
Sure why not, tour recumbents can handle rough terrain, although they are not made for actual mountainbiking. If you want to mountainbike, buy a fucking mountainbike https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Ekefr3xH3y8
Although it looks stupid as fuck, but roadbikes also aren't meant for mountainbiking.
>How do you bunny hop?
You can't bunny hop, unless you ride a flevobike with clipless pedals. But remember- only lightweight upright bicycles can bunnyhop with the rider. Heavy upright bicycles, such as DUTCH BICYLES, can't bunny hop.
>Aren't most people using recumbent handicapped in some way?
People with stability issues often use trikes, people with leg issues often use handbicycles. Somehow these bikes often are recumbent, for various goddamn good reasons.
any lowracer or fwd or two wheeled aren't fit for the handicapped tho.
I see tons of old people or handicapped people riding 3 wheeled upright tricycles with SADDLES, does that mean that a lot of handicapped people ride uprights???
now get ready FOR BANEZ
Based mods banned the thread-derailer
Thank you based mods
And thank you trainguys, I love trains too.
Anyone wants to buy an electro velomobile
I'm sure you can get it for under 3k and since it's from a shop they must be willing to ship.
Yes, it's measurably harder. No, it's not hard enough that you should care unless the route you're riding is mostly uphill.
you gotta be spinnen them legs!!
now unless you're a professional cyclist climbing on a recumbent won't be a problem!
I've read experiences of people on bentrideronline.com being able to climb BETTER on a recumbent,,,,but these are very expensive full carbon recumbents with very good gearing, soo..
this is one of dem high techno m5 full carbon recombents,,,no joke one can climb better on this then a 20 kg city bike.
but I think still that upright carbon roadbikes are the fastest when climbing, but who cycles purely to climb?? ok some do, but the majority does not,,
velomobiles have climbed mont ventoux!!
>but who cycles purely to climb??
But climbing is what really makes cycling for me. Given that I live in a fairly flat area but climbing is why I keep on riding. All those hours spend riding are just in preparation for when I get to somewhere I can really climb. Also one of the reasons why I use a carbon road bike as an everyday bike.
Recumbents and rails fit perfectly together. Keep on fighting the good fight.
There are so many different recumbent bike designs. Here is a lowracer- not made for city use or too steep hills. It is perfect for the countryside. Very- fast. This type holds wordrecords. Newprice = 2500 euro's.
This is what you are looking for:
M5 City cruiser.
That's awesome, although I'd prefer two the same sized wheels. What's your opinion on the Hurricane?
It's great, and much cheaper then M5. However, they are a little bit heavier (+/- 13) kilograms. Unless you want to drop more for the carbon version. But the weight isn't going to make a big diffrence
No, recumbents are a niche-product. If you want a recumbent you must be willing to drop money on it.
If you're lucky you can buy one on craigslist for under 500$. Or you must be willing to buy out of Europe (Holland) where recumbents can be bought for like 300$, but shipping will be costly.
Why are they more expensive? They're not very popular- almost all recumbents are made by hand in small factories in Europe and America with decent loans and good materials, unlike mass produced BSO's from China.
>Or you must be willing to buy out of Europe (Holland) where recumbents can be bought for like 300$, but shipping will be costly.
This is second hand of course. 300$ will probably not get you a very good 'bent.
Im Dutch and I've been cycling for 20 years and im just 24 years old.
5 days a week for 8 years to primary school,
5 years to high school 15 kilometer to and 15 km back, 5 days a week
then to university for 6 years, 5 days a week
and I still cycle almost everyday, and you say ''were casuals'' because we ride in normal clothing on a normal bike and don't use racing bikes for everyday use. you know what, fuck you and fuck this board with these pseudo cyclists, let me tell you who is the real cyclist, the real cyclist is not the one who rides a shiny bike in gay tight clothing, but the real cyclist is one who learns to ride when he is a kid and continues to ride one all his life, and his primary bike weights 18 kilogram
I'm Canadian and I have been cycling for 25 years and I am just 30.
No I don't wear lycra, I have a normal bike that I use for commuting and a so called "race bike".
When I can I use my bicycle for transport rather than my car.
We don't all live in flatlandia, there are many valleys and hills here, so being able to climb is an absolutely necessity.
Yet >>855589 never mentioned that someone who rides a regular city bike in normal clothes isn't a real cyclist. Both of those types of people are real cyclists. You're even worse as you're trying to imply that some cyclists aren't actually real cyclists and that only a certain group of people that ride on a bike according to your completely arbitrary set of rules are so called real cyclists while others are just pretenders.
The real difference between the lycra clad carbon riding cyclists and cruiser riding guy in jeans is that for one of them cycling is a hobby and for the other it's just a means of transportation. Then there are people who fall somewhere between these two groups of people who do cycling for various reasons, some of them even bikes are both a hobby and means of transportation. All of them are real cyclists though. Dare I say even the recumbent riders are real cyclists. However just because you're a cyclist doesn't mean that you're serious about it or that it's your hobby.
I'm also 24, I've been riding a bike for 20 years. 10-15 km to school and back 5 days a week and trips to football games and trainings on top of that. Now I commute on my bike. It doesn't matter if it's -30 degrees C outside and there's 2 meters of snow or if it's raining and +5 or if it's sunny and +30. I don't commute on lycra but on regular clothes, on a warm day I might put on a jersey and change that once I get to work.
Then on the weekends and after work I get myself into lycra, hop onto the same carbon road bike I commute during the summers and ride. I've been a cyclist for almost all my life. However I've only been serious about it for the last few years. Before that it was just a means of transportation.
I don't believe in Recumbents. That is I don't believe they're real. It has to be some /n/ meme that everyone is playing along with. I've never seen one in real life. Not in bike stores, not anyone riding them. Nobody has even mentioned them in real life. Nobody would ride this in real life. Nope. Not gonna fall for this one!
>those fucking pump action/sit-up powered bikes
Can't be real.
Those are rowing bikes and there is nothing wrong with them. How can you not like such ingenuity as a cyclist? They say it's very fun to do.
There are recumbents with completely enclosed drivetrains. (Flevobike Greenmachine)
I prefer to use less chain myself and I'm a fan of the FWD Raptobike (see pic)
Drivetrain efficiency isn't a concern because it's outweighed by the aero gains. On the other hand low gears for climbing are even more important because you can't stand on the pedals or use your arms with a recumbent.
If u want clean looks u can get either FWD, MBB, Driveshaft, or enclosed drivetrain.
Lowracers almost always have long loose chains since these offer least drivetrain loss, but you sacrifice practicality, but most lowracers aren't used in public anyway unless you have a deathwish.
I am now posting pictures of lowracers
beware-these are not normal recumbents
don't use them on the roads and when you do, only in the countryside with a flag.
This is a better racing bent to use in public.
the differene in aero between lowracers and highracers are minimal
the usage of lowracer is not recommend for beginners or for the anger of upright cyclists.
it is often recommend that one first start on high bent with more upright seating angle en then later on switch to a more reclined bent when you have more experience.
The usage of two wheeled streamliners such as these arth to be restricted to racing grounds. For practical streamliners there must be
openings for the feet and a cockpit that can be opened easily for fresh air flow and the entrace of sound of twaffic.
Saw this on fb. Guy is touring from Winnipeg to Kelowna and hauling his wheel chair behind his recumbent.
As a recumbent rider with realistic expectations, he knows that sooner or later his low visibility will get him run over by a truck, thus having to ride home in the pictured wheelchair.
As previously mentioned the rider doesn't have any hopes of preventing his inevitable interaction with a number of truck wheels and the asphalt. Being a man of logical, sound mind, he embraces his fate and prepares for it.
Why you ask? Knee injury. The recumbent design puts too much stress on my knees. I never suffered from knee injury on an upright. So that's why I went back to a roadbike. I probably could have solved it with getting a better position, but I was quite bored of riding a recumbent anyway. Too much negative attention I get, everywhere I go, I like recumbents, that's not it, but a good one is too expensive for me, I had a cheap second hand one. Maybe in the future I will buy one again, if I have more money. Right now I prefer the roadbike, I'm actually faster on it.
I pulled up behind a bent rider at an intersection today and my immediate instinct was to hurl verbal abuse at him
What have you assholes done to me, I used to think recumbents were cool bikes and their owners automatically were assumed to be eccentric but nice people until proven otherwise
I feel like I am in a game and you can't actually go as far as the mountains behind and walk through them but they are just sitting there in the back ground for fun as a view
anyone else know this feel?
>On a recumbent, the rider's legs are nearly at the same height as the heart. ...
Welp, there are other factors (and I am a recumbentfag).
A lot of people have problem with "numb feet" when riding recumbents, and the higher your feet are relative to your heart seems to be the major factor in that.
I would agree totally that riding a recumbent is less strenuous than an upright; none of your upper body muscles have to work much on a recumbent.
If all you have is upright bikes, then you might think that staying balanced on an upright "doesn't take much effort" ,,,,,,,, but it does take quite a bit. You don't see that until you ride something that requires drastically less.
>A lot of people have problem with "numb feet" when riding recumbents, and the higher your feet are relative to your heart seems to be the major factor in that.
Yeah I have that in the winter, I only if I wear a type of shoes, weird. A tintling sensation.
When I ride a more upright recumbent it goes away. A recumbent with the knees not as high as the heart. But In the summer I don't get the tingling sensation, not even on lowracers. So it probably has to do with the cold too
Iwas riding into the countryside last week, up a steady 4% hill, and this biker looking guy in a recumbent trike came barelling towards me going around 40 mph. We raised hands and nodded, it was raining slightly, neither of us was going home because of that, and I thought of /n/ and smiled.
These things are real, and I wanted to ride one.
I am from Japan and I ride a raptobike recumbent.
I did not expect recumbent thread here.
This is my YouTube Channel. If you want to watch my video's go here.
>5 years to high school 15 kilometer to and 15 km back, 5 days a week
If that's all you do, then no, you're not "serious" about cycling. And I'm not saying that to be a dick, but 30 km of commute is basically nothing. Do you have any idea how much someone who is "serious" actually rides?
You're as "serious" about cycling as someone using their car for commute every day is "serious about driving". And they're not serious about it.
I knew this really happy guy in college who was always getting involved in various harebrained schemes and he did whatever he wanted and gave no fucks. And he was so damm happy all the time, even when he was mad he was happy, and he was friendly and nice but also soft spoken and not at all doing any of it for attention. Also he had a hot sister who was like 5'4" and innocent as fuck. I kind of hated him because what the fuck is there to be so happy about. But he was such a nice guy I couldn't hate him for long.
I can totally see him being on a recumbent and not seeming like a total tool.
You, though? Nah you're gonna look like a tremendous faggot.
It weights only 24 kilogram, which is extremely light for a velomobile.
Although I agree it's too low.
Users have said it's not hot inside at all because it's well ventilated.
They builders of the Go-One evo also make an open top version, the Go-One evo S (see pic) That is one of the fastest and lightest velomobiles in the world (22kg) .
of course a hood can be added for extra aerodynamic advantage and weather protection.
>I want to a recumbent because muh dick, but it just looks awful. Is there a way I can ride to a party on a recumbent and not look like a total faggot?
not really. but guess what? most non-bicycle people think that lycra bike shorts look faggy.
besides, when you grow up you stop caring what other people think
you have your own reasons for doing something, and public approval is no longer necessary
the future is here, coming to your neighborhood next
The thing is with low/high/mid racers you can add fenders, racks and other accesoires to make it practical and still be faster then the average roadcyclist. this is why we call them lowracers, there's no need to sacrifice practicality for speed when it comes to recumbents.
How low can your gears be on a recumbent?
Because if you can fit a MTB drivetrain on it, say a 44-32-22 / 11-36, i don't see climbing ever being a problem. Given the low gravity center slow speeds at the lowest gears wouldn't even impede stability. Although given how fast recumbent are on the flat compared to uprights you might run out of gear at the upper end.
I'd like to try one but I don't know anyone who owns one and they're pretty expensive.
> Although given how fast recumbent are on the flat compared to uprights you might run out of gear at the upper end.
This. And put it another way, the climbs recumbent have trouble on are the climbs road bikes with normal gearing have trouble on. They're the kinds of climbs that make you wish you had a climbing bike.
>implying the Dutch don't use a bike as a poorfag choice.
They ride because it's cheap. Their bikes are mostly in terrible shape. If they could, they'd use a car. But that's ineffective in the main cities due to a lack of parking and busy roads in rush hour.
Having many cycle paths also helps. Without those I wonder how many "true" cyclist would still keep riding.
>Having many cycle paths also helps
>Having dedicated cycling infrastructure encourages people to cycle
Gee brain, do you think? Perhaps it has something to do with the general relative flatness of the country, too? Perhaps you could apply for a $10m grant to study it: the world needs your insight.
>They ride because it's cheap.
>Their bikes are mostly in terrible shape
Oh god so much this,SO MUCH THIS
> If they could, they'd use a car.
I doubt this,but as you said if parking space and traffic wasn't such a problem,they might.
>Without those I wonder how many "true" cyclist would still keep riding.
Some considerably large parts of The hague,dont got any specific cyclepaths,You dont see any less cyclists there so I Don't think there would be a considerable difference between dedicated and shared roads
Source,Dutch LBS greasemonkey(thats one step above NEET yeyy!)
A bike with a lower gearing than you'd usually have and as little superfluous weight as possible.
Usually when you see "climbing bike" it's just a marketing term, but it's not unusual for pro racers (or ordinary riders who live near mountains) to have a second bike that's preferred for days that will feature lots of climbing.
Disadvantages of recumbents compared with normal bicycles:
1. Inherently dangerous
2. Absolutely can't climb
3. Prone to cause ass and back sores as you can't change position
4. Expensive, low end components
5. Incredibly heavy, even the carbon ones
6. Impractical for daily life
7. Can't sprint
8. Socially disabling
9. Cringe-inducing, fetish-oriented recumbent community
10. Has absolutely no visibility in traffic
11. Own feet impair view, puddle of own feces prevent hygienic riding
12. They are the natural foodsource for trucks
13. Children kick sand on your face and laugh at your sorry sight
After I started riding a recumbent (second hand) I began to have some bowel trouble, mainly a few leaks. I've talked about it with some fellow bent riders and it seems to be a common issue. They "solve" it by wearing thick underwear and dark clothing to conceal the occasional leaks, but I find it disgusting.
What can I do about it?
>Ditch the recumbent.
>Eat stuff that would prevent loose stools.
>Insert a butt plug.
>Wear an adult diaper.
Thick underwear is not a solution for anything more serious than slight pee drippage.
>Didn't include 'can't bunnyhop'
my first time looking at /n/
Already hate every cyclist on this board.
>you're not "serious" about cycling
you are the reason why drivers kill cyclists and no one gives a shit, friend
keep it up, and you will continue to see dead cyclists killed by drivers who walked free
Hey, is /n/ still autistic about bents? Just picked this up for 600 bucks, which is what I sold my upright for a few months ago. Dude set it up pretty well for touring, it has turn signals, a bunch of shit for better visibility, and some pretty nice panniers on it. He also had some like pool noodles and a pillow on it that I scrapped.
Only thing I don't really like is that it has friction shifters, which I'll probably change out.
>Brake levers mounted backwards
It must be terribly uncomfortable to ride for extended periods with one's forearms pronated to a degree sufficient to properly use the brake levers. I imagine it makes the shifters very difficult to use too.
I don't understand how these bikes can possibly be used outside of events and shit
seems like if I rode one casually the police would stop me and tell me to get off the street and return home with it for endangering traffic by being too low to the ground. such is burger life tho
Well down here in the city I see bents on a near daily basis, thought that's not saying much considering what a small % of the bikes they are
I'd assume a college town like ithaca and an angry bitter rust belt town with only rednecks itching their impotent blue collar rage would have different attitudes towards a recumbent.
Very poor design: the thumb is at the other end of the grip, so it can not be used to grip the shifter. The only way to bring it into use would be to release one's hold on the grip and raise the arm, but flexing the shoulder with the forearm pronated like that would be extremely uncomfortable, and possibly beyond the capabilities of someone with shoulder mobility issues.
I have no idea how you think they're supposed to be gripped, but they're very comfortable to use.
Ignore how dirty my hands are, I've been working on my car all day and just ran out of proper pumice soap yesterday.
In that case, I must reiterate my objection to the brake levers being mounted backwards. I retract my objection to the pronation of the forearm I had thought required to hold the grips.
Santaclaus likes to ride a recumbent during his summer vacation.
You realize you're not supposed to grab a fistful of brakes, right? I can move my hand down an inch and have my full hand on them if I wanted to. I had some little girl run out in front of me on saturday, and I had no problem stopping in time. I legitimately have no idea what you think the problem is, but I can only assume you've never ridden a bike?
I'm really not sure if it was replaced or how it came stock. It's a TW bent arrow according to the guy I bought it from, which has a mesh seat. But TW bent made another trike called the apoyo, which I think was the same thing but with webbing instead. It's pretty comfortable, so I'm just going to leave it.
I'm not sure. I think it's some kind of gently crushing depression. Psych wasn't much help though.
You realise your index finger is your most dexterous, right? Why would you want to release your entire hand from the grip in an emergency manoeuvre? I have ridden many bikes - none of them have had brake levers mounted backwards.
>How do you think
I challenge you to show me any owner's manual which countenances any other orientation.
he's only pretending to be an absolute moron, right guys? no one is actually this stupid?
Yeah best to leave it then. One of the advantages of having seating like that is the improved ventilation and water resistance.
Welcome to recumbent cycling anyway. If you ever meet another recumbent cyclist don't forget to greet, were a close family
holding the bar with your index and middle and braking with the rest isnt too bad either, unless you are a weak willy.
>reading the manual
are you a woman?
Not that bad. Exhaust smells on older motorcycles, modded motorcycles with catalytic converters removed, and especially 2 strokes. This is why I hate the 2-stroke motor bicycle kits. Not only are they 2 strokes, they're poorly made 2 strokes that haven't passed any sort of emissions regulations.