>>62062041 Really? I don't see it as tryhard/edgy because the whole reason he made FJM was to reflect the bitter sarcastic personality that he couldn't in Fleet Foxes. It's the exact opposite of tryhard, he's being genuine to himself, and the public just sees it that way because it's different.
He's intentionally pretentious and I commend him for it. I think there needs to be SOME confident pretetion in the music world at any given time just to act as a counterbalance to the "lazy pop music is the best" fear of pretension or being called a hipster thing. I like a lot of top-40 pop, but there's a point where "poptimism" (if you want to call it that) is just too much when reputable publications are writing deep think-pieces on songs written by Max Martin and artists have to pretend to love everything on Twitter and get hounded if they don't (like Ed Droste being run off Twitter and even shunned by his friends HAIM for not liking Taylor Swift and thinking she's fake).
yes, he is liked by the "middle-of-theroad" reddit/tumblr crowd that place their identity in how "different" he is, and yes that definetly hurts his image- but honestly I still like him. he even made a song making fun of tumblrinas/redditors as far as I can tell
>>62062321 I agree. So many people called him pretentious for mocking the Ryan Adams/Taylor Swift thing but I thought it was hilarious and was confused how it was "pretentious" to mock something as circlejerky and retarded as a sad-folk 1989 cover album.
>>62062623 I thought both things were really dumb.
On one hand, I don't need Ryan "Mr. Earnesty" Adams in his plaid shirt and telecaster injecting Taylor Swift with the emotional honesty he feels she lacks.
On the other hand, there's nothing wrong with being earnest, and as cheesy and self-absorbed as Ryan Adams is, Father John Misty injecting his patent brand of edgy ironic sarcasm into the situation didn't do anything for me.
i really liked his new album but the only thing that detracted from it for me is his opinion on shit like smartphones/technology in general. though i guess its only natural he would have that opinion since he is older
>>62062945 thats more to just fake dumb broads in general that goes beyond reddit/tumblr
>>62063033 I don't think he's actually against new technology, he's just aware of the fact of how ridiculous it all is and makes fun of himself and others who are so obsessed with it. He uses it quite a lot himself. https://www.instagram.com/fatherjohnmisty/
>>62063033 I don't think that song is against technology, just that trying to maintain a relationship via your phone feels strange after a while and is simply not as fulfilling as getting to be with that person. Anyone who's had a long distance relationship feels the same way I think, there's a point where it goes from feeling normal to feeling bizarre to talk to them on Skype or whatever when you haven't seen them in person in so long.
>>62063207 You can be a fan of something even if it's making fun of you, though. That's just being self aware and knowing that the stuff you like and do can be silly and dumb and that's ok. I'm not saying that's all of his fans, but certainly a lot of them. Portlandia is a show making fun of hipsters made by hipsters pretty much for hipsters, everyone knows who the target of the jokes are but that doesn't make it not enjoyable to them. Josh makes fun of a specific group of people but he is also apart of it.
>>62062623 I really liked how he mocked the Ryan Adams cover album. I think people are forgetting exactly how circlejerky the whole internet was about Swift's album getting covered by a "deep singer" when Ryan Adams is, and I quote FJM here "I hate the bogus singer songwriter heart on your sleeve trope that seems [to envelop] all those in the genre"
so Ryan represented exactly what FJM was making fun of with his album and fake name, and his 2 songs were in the moment and really funny.
he explains it here, in the first half. Great interview too.
>>62061473 seen him live back in October and he was a great preformer but had no banter at all, not a bit of chatter off him at all. Didn't say hi when he came on stage, just launched straight into the singing and would stand there awkwardly on stage when they'd be getting ready for the next song. Some girl even jumped up on stage and security got real physical and he just stood there and didn't say a word. I was left a bit dissapointed with him if I'm honest.
I just can't get into this guy for the life of me. There's just something about his whole character that really puts me off. His face, his writing, all of it. I really don't know. I've listened to some of and it just doesn't grab me. Conor Oberst loves this dude. But I don't think he even comes close to Conor.
>>62061473 I enjoyed Fear Fun a decent amount and saw him perform live soon after it's release. I should've realized he wouldn't have a backing band. Very bad show. He changed a lot of his lyrics to make himself seem sexy and he kept flirting with the audience. It seemed like he was desperate to get laid and it was uncomfortable. Then college hipsters everywhere became more aware of his existence and he's a pretty trendy guy now. Just not my kind of guy and I imagine his demographic don't frequent /mu/
>>62061473 Mediocre musician. I understand his way of showing his true persona is through his apparently brilliant 'edgy, ironic' lyricism and his 'dry' humor, but the whole thing for me just comes off as either too sardonic and bitter or too "in the know" with casual winks and "subtle" references to modern culture.
In short it's just purely unpleasant and unfocused music, which is a shame when you contrast that with the often gorgeous production (which I guess is another mark of his 'humor'). I know it's an overused term but his music feels like a cringefest for me, I barely got through ILYHB.
What's with all these positive comments and discussion btw? Get the fuck off my board and go to reddit or something
I'm a big fan of what he's doing and I guess my real interest is seeing what he's gonna do from here. Honeybear was the punchline to Fear Fun in such a way that it's gonna be interesting to see if he goes for another practical joke or something else entirely. I'd love to see him do a character next.
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