The point of these threads, is to encourage people to look for new and interesting music. We do this by listening to, and ideally discussing albums we've never heard before. Many of us already listen to new music daily, these people are in it to venture "out of their comfort zone" by listening to albums they otherwise wouldn't have, or just to have a good time.
We track our progress using calendars, which we fill with the albums we listen to on each day and a rating of some sort for all of them. There are templates in the following posts. We encourage you to write the albums' titles and the artists' names somewhere on your calendar. We don't have any tools for creating these calendars, we use simple image editing softwares. You can predetermine a schedule for a month or you can report back on whatever album you randomly picked every day. Many of us make our schedules interesting in various way, popular ones being genre restrictions, new releases, and recs from the /daily/ community.
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no one should really be able to start the threads, but usually one of /daily/'s dedicated trips starts them anyways.
We encourage you to start it, just be sure to use the standard OP.
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Previous thread got taken down for /pol/posting so no previous thread link.
>Nick Drake's discog
>Diamond Mine by Jon Hopkins & King Creosote
>Just Another Diamond Day by Vashti Bunyan
>On Your Own Love Again by Jessica Pratt
>Big Blood and the Bleedin' Hearts by Big Blood and the Bleedin' Hearts
>Skogslandskap by Váli
>The Dance of the Moon and the Sun by Natural Snow Buildings
Various Sri Lanka. Musiques Rituelles Et Religieuses 1992 Ocora
María Sabina Mushroom Ceremony of the Mazatec Indians of Mexico 2006 Smithsonian Folkways
Flory Jagoda Memories Of Sarajevo: Judeo-Spanish Songs From Bosnia 1996 Global Village
Hamza El Din Escalay (The Water Wheel) 1971 Nonesuch Explorer
Monâjât Yultchieva Ouzbekistan: Maqâm D'Asie Centrale 1994 Ocora
U Tin Htoo Hsaing Waing of Myanmar 1992 King's World Music Library
Various Tibetan Buddhist Rites from the Monasteries of Bhutan 2005 Sub Rosa
Voice of the Xtabay might be interesting, though I couldn't get into it
Listening to Early Minimalism 1965. Dank.
Keijo - Keijo
Ancient Method's Third Method was a banger.
Favorite track was the last one. If you dig noisy techno with some static thrown in, you'll dig this
time for a emo meme
what memefolk are you talking about
eddy detroit - immortal gods
paavoharju - laulu laakson kukista
woods - how to survive in / in the woods
kengo iuchi - 邪鬼祭 '89ライブ
julian lynch - lines
patrick kelleher - you look cold
alexander neilson & richard youngs - road is open life
innercity ensemble - katahdin
päivänsäde - puhalluspelto
cerberus shoal - the land we all believe in
the anaksimandros - river of finland
Rate that fokin ashra before going to yeti m8
fuck you too
I cant for the life of me remember the title to the album I'm reviewing and cant be bothered to go to my PC's itunes to get the title/look through the archive
It was pretty good, kind of the same thing but as No Becoming but not as amazing... I think what that album (No Becoming) does right is create a solid atmosphere around the guitar driven atmosphere, which is what is lacking here, still good though
will look into and add either
heard if it's cleveland orchestra/pierre boulez, anyway I've heard a handful of recordings and would rather something new, so I'm going with bennie
I'm not sure but I'd say there's 11 spots filled already, 5 left
>australia is full
>no it's not it could take refugees
>derives into discussion about refugees on europe
>200 posts of it and deleted
I sincerely apologise to everyone, I take full responsibility
sorry you're right
I listened to this earlier at my job, it was pretty cool
i need to try that out
I like these new puritans to a fair amount
never heard Mr. bungle, but haven't heard too much bad about them
Sotos kinda makes sense
I should try a cal chuchesta album
>hating the Crimson King
where does the Hospice hate come from? it just sounds like another subpar indie album to me
Maybe their later albums aren't completely terrible, but their s/t is carnival music. Its very goal is to be as "lolsorandumb xdd" as possibru. If you have taste, you will dislike it.
Cottonwoodhill is a good album, not sure what there is to dislike about that.
I seriously don't know how you can listen to it in 2016 and think it doesn't sound awfully dated. I can tolerate the 2nd track but Brainticket is incredibly boring and and headache-inducing.
>think about joining daily it sounds like a cool idea
>see Eureka and Aesthetica as favorites around here
So people enjoy shallow gimmick version of versatility around here?
Nice trips, but Brainticket do a really good job of making krautrock that is mad funky.
doesn't sound dated at all to me, everything is super fun and groovy
so you just hate it for the story?
I heard people claiming the cancer is just a metaphor
would that make the album better?
Okay, so I have never done this before but wanna try this out for the sake of listening to new music. I know that I don't need /daily/ to discover punk and metal I know my way around those genres well enough to do it on my own. Here's the closest equivalent of my all time favorites. Which direction of music would you guys recommend I go to for /daily/?
Eh I guess that's on whoever likes it. Too gimmicky for me personally as I said.
I can attest to this. Touche Amore and La Dispute was all I listened to to in high school until I discovered Orchid which led me down the path of screamo.
Arszyn / Duda - Automata
is that interesting enough
if you haven't heard Comus - First Utterance yet do it because it's the greatest folk album ever
other good folk memes
The Microphones - Mount Eerie
Sun City Girls
Scott Tuma - Hard Again
Jackie O Motherfucker - Flags of the Sacred Harp
Almaden - The Dream Continues in 1,000,000 Roads
I have both of those on my chart...love them. Pet Sounds is probably among one of four albums that I would call my favorite of all time if someone were to ask about my favorite all time albums.
Thanks. Yeah that doesn't seem like a bad idea. Minimalism has played a huge influence on the electronic part of my chart and all the jazz fusion/krautrock that should be part of the chart that I also love a lot. Also pretty unfamiliar with the scene outside Part/Glass/Reich/Cage.
So yeah guys where should I go for minimalism that isn't Arvo Part, Phillip Glass, Steve Reich, or John Cage? Minimalism recs please?
you're probably going to get juius eastman (unjust malaise) and terry riley (in c) recommended, among others
they're cool imo, also lubomyr melnyk
also tony conrad, la monte young, dennis johnson and all those
also this is nice jazz inspired somewhat minimal
QUICK CHANGE ALL YOUR PASSWORDS
tell me what to listen to. If it isn't an 8 at least I will never take a rec from you again
Noting them down, thanks a lot guys. Have yet to write down something for La Monte Young because the piece I have searched that's considered the essential is five hours long...is it worth it? I'll put it down, too.
>Avant garde third stream
This is a thing? Please by all means show me what to start off with I already do enjoy.
I'll say go for Calculating Infinity because imo that's at least an 8. Not sure whether you dig that kind of music or not though.
sleep tight tucker
since you're the closest thing I have to someone knowledgeable on Brakhage
do you watch his stuff in silence or do you play music alongside it
Ï always though Musical Abortions would fit The Act Of Seeing
I am not sure why your unrated things are unrated. But if you haven't listened to Nusrat Fateh Ali Khan's Shahen-Shah or Pure's Fetor I would say one of those.
If you HAVE listened to both of those, then:
...And The Native Hipsters - There Goes Concorde Again
Eh I am new idk you people well enough so it'll be a start. I don't mind his taste I see good shit that he rates a 1 good shit that he rates a 5 based on his rym.
Bob recced it to me almost a year ago.
this is fucking brilliant and it's criminal that so few people have heard it.
Charles Mingus- Mingus (x5)
A compilation of Mingus's earlier works redone for his experimental big band. Interesting, but not a whole lot of substance
As much as I wanna say to get on those two albums you missed (2 of my three favs on your chart along with Bad Brains), I would honestly recommend hitting In A Silent Way then going into those two. It does a good job for paving the way for the Jazz Fusion shenanigans that'll come up.
Flying Lotus- Los Angeles
equal parts dancy hip hop and jazzy and a bit glitchy idm
enjoyable but a bit too cluttered for my tastes
I do but it's just starting and I need to fill it out still speaking of which plz halp.
just finished selling england by the pound, what's next?
im definately gonna relisten to another green world, mabye i just wasnt paying enough attention the first time. golden hours was golden, a 10/10 from the first time i heard it. the seer was kinda pushing my patience tho (first swan album i heard).
As ridiculous as it seems, yes. The album was meant to be taken in as whole. Though I've only really listened to in full once, the experience was unique and it's something everyone should at least do once to properly see where Michael Gira was going with it.
BIG MESS WHEN
When it comes to Swans albums, despite some being around that 2hr time frame, they are never as intimidating as their time frames imply. Just start the album and you'll know.
Polar Sequences was a cool live recording of some arctic tecno on top of a cold-ass mountain above Tromso, icy icy sound. Last track is p much melting water and cracking ice, that was nice.
Xhol wasn't as great as I thought it would be, the bluesy psychedelic jams never really went anywhere interesting. I did like their vocalist though
Neither deserves that really, I thought the big X is a suggestive enough symbol for INTO THE TRASH
I'm kind of rethinking some of these but I fucked up layers on my pdn file so hmm
Making charts is harder then I remembered
the breathing effect- mars is a very bad place for love
it's pretty relaxing, would be a nice alternate soundtrack to katamari damacy. pop/smooth jazz, with some above average songwriting. did't quite fall flat for me, but didn't hold me much either
branca was freaky, I see why he's popular here. I was entertained, but not sure i'm interested in exploring his other works.
I need recs from co and eruditey
>activates Glenn Branca shill mode
I would still say check out his other works. They vary in all sorts of ways from Lesson No. 1.
Here I had put in a share thread a while back everything worth checking out from him. The Ascension is obviously his essential record, but check out everything from Symphony 3 and onward for more different.
Felt ambivalent about Brainiac, it sound real nice at times but also a bit annoying and stoopid, it's up for relisten some other time.
Idk what I was thinking with that Buckshot record, no joy to be found, only boring funky jazz, some loops and songs that sound like taken from The Average Soul Album and overall mediocreness, worst one so far, beating the lamey melodrama of black tape
wait a second...
>Keiji Haino and memes are edited in with a cold grey tone while the rest of the album art is in a warm grey tone.
anything to keep the thread up, eh?
like, two new favorites in one day, both from guys named Charles.
>Steffen Basho-Junghans - In the Morning Twilight
Wow, this was fantastic. I can see why clutnuckle is such a fan of this album. I'd have to admit it's a little front-loaded, and the back end is a bit weaker, but overall it's a really solid album. The two longest tracks are the best tracks, and I really like it when that happens. As far as playing goes, it does sound fairly Fahey-esque, but Steffen really carves out his own little corner of american primitive style. I've already listened to this about three times, and I'll probably listen a dozen more shortly.
Oh hey sweet I won something. Still under 20 min, correct?
Darkthrone- A Blaze in the Norther Sky
ONLY 14 TO GO GUYS
FZ:OZ was another unnecessarily long live album. Some good stunts on here, but nothing worth going back to.
Lumpy Money is a fantastic blend of We're Only In it For the Money and Lumpy Gravy. If you like either of those albums, this 3 and a half hour behemoth is a must. Contains several behind the scenes selections, as is a theme with the Project/Object series (I hope they make more!!!) as well as several mixes and versions of both albums. Really good stuff, just kind of repetitive and mind-numbing for one single listen.
Feeding the Monkies at Ma Maison seems like a missing link from Zappa's shittiest period: his electronic composition era. Good thing it's slightly more interesting than Francesco Zappa, or I'd be-a shittan brix.
If by Finer Moments he means "finer than the last few albums before this," then yes. But that's saying pretty much nothing. Some live originals, but nothing worth heading back for.
Joe's camouflage was like Joe's Domage with better recording equipment. Doesn't really make for a better album, though.
I feel like they accidentally just left the recording equipment on during a rehearsal and Gail was like "I need money so this is now an album."
I'll get to the YCDTOSA albums, but not for a couple days at least.
will this work?
interesting rock formation
hey can I join? i nominate this record
>refuses to listen to what he doesn't like but hasn't listened to
Then go to John Fahey's discog and listen to the first thing you haven't listened to then. Specifically America if you haven't.
as in full or rec another?
pic related if rec another
You sure? It's much more on the progressive folk side of things, and much more tuneful than most bands associated with the scene. Heck most people say they're the least RiO-like of the original groups.
But fine. I guess you can take your pick from the two albums I posted earlier itt.
i'd go with yannis if it wasn't that long
and tourette seems too harsh, is it?
I'm just going with America
as in rec another (again)
tourney is 13/16 rn I think
charles guard? I'll go with that
ok what is causing you to ask for different recs cause else i'll just be going insane
what are all the /daily/iens up to? I got a bit of work done on the new album, haven't had much time to listen to new music but binged on Dog Faced Hermans and Deafheaven earlier.
okay so i'm wondering
does your book feature a lot of moods? just about what are you aiming to convey with this piece?
or is it going to be one of those static genre books where all i'm going to see is E.E. Cummings shit
>does your book feature a lot of moods?
At least many.
>just about what are you aiming to convey with this piece?
The beauty of being alive, among other things, including but not limited to political theories, the nature/structure/significance/challenges of religion (or more general faith), how we become ourselves through experience or how experiences shape us, the significance of death etc.
>or is it going to be one of those static genre books where all i'm going to see is E.E. Cummings shit
Uh no. Hell to the no.
just on first prediction it reminds me of It's Such A Beautiful Life. I loved that movie and I hope I dig this as much too. You might have been the one who recced it earlier too.
>How are you going to go about releasing it?
I'm mostly focusing on getting it completed and professionally edited first, but ideally I find an agent to represent it and help find a publisher. Failing that, send it to publishers myself.
Self-publishing is possible but it isn't an option I'd prefer.
the literary world is interesting to me. what's selling at the moment? if authors like John Green can become popular and have their works made into films then that's a sign that economy is alive and well, correct?
>if authors like John Green can become popular and have their works made into films then that's a sign that economy is alive and well, correct?
John Green is an interesting case, as an auther before social media but now a weird freakish internet media/literature hybrid monstrosity of low-cost publicity freight trains and exceptionally strong and devoted fanbase.
ie. he is a special case, and his situation means that adapting his books to film (especially considering his books generally translate to lower-budget film affairs) is effectively a certain profit. Meaning his book adaptations are a sound business decision for film producers.
Generally books don't get film adaptations without a colossal following in text form. Business stuff, cost-risk assessments etc. etc.
But yes there is a bit of a resurgence in literature lately, with media tech. developing so well. It is kind of similar to the vinyl revival meme going around the music world.
But I don't follow literature mostly. I really only read/follow non-fiction and poetry :|
>exceptionally strong and devoted fanbase.
this is where /daily/ comes into play
but in all seriousness, i have faith that if you're going to make something great it's only natural for people to come and devote themselves to you.
i'm going to get you a Rimbaud collection for Christmas m8.
desu tho mostly I hate fiction because fiction writers are ab-so-lute shiiiite at actually writing.
I'm more in love with how language moves than by good stories. Heaven knows I'm happier not knowing the ending of a story than I am face-slamming my way through bland style and uninspired prose to reach a story's conclusion.
Which is to say, a good poet's language tickles my giblets far more than a good novel worth of snooze-fest utilitarian language used only for the purposes of conveying a story.
Rimbaud's pretty cool tho.
I plowed through this chart in the last 4-5 days like the group of men that plow your mother nightly, so I'll just share highlights/things I'l recommend from it
Percussions - 2011 until 2014
MCFERRDOG - Lawd Forgive Me
>ambient, electronic, experimental, house, techno
Flores Del Vicio - Reach a Better Feeling
>electronic, experimental, house, techno, noise
Janet Jackson - Janet Jackson
>1980s, pop, disco
Stephan Mathieu - Nachtstücke
>ambient, electronic, experimental, drone
Desolate Shrine - The Heart of the Netherworld
>metal, death.metal, finland
Low - Things We Lost in the Fire
>alternative, indie, rock, indie.rock, post.rock, lo.fi, slowcore
Early Day Miners - Placer Found
>indie, post.rock, slowcore
Piano Magic - Low Birth Weight
>experimental, dream.pop, abstract, post.rock, shoegaze, leftfield, poetry
Empress - Empress 
>indie, rock, slowcore, lo.fi
Tse Tse Fly - Tse Tse Fly
>rock, indie.rock, shoegaze
>Arco - Coming To Terms
>indie, called the ''British response to Low'' in a review for the followup release
Van Dyke Parks - Song Cycle
>experimental, folk, pop, psychedelic, avant.garde, americana, chamber.pop, baroque.pop, 1960s
Van Dyke Parks - Discover America
>1970s, experimental, pop, rock, world.music, americana, calypso, pop.funk, steel.drums
Klaus Schulze - Moondawn
>1970s, ambient, electronic
Alice Coltrane - Universal Consciousness
>jazz, piano, free.jazz, harp, world.fusion
Virgo Four - Virgo
>house, chicago, deep.house, chicago.house
Popol Vuh - In den Gärten Pharaos
>1970s, experimental, krautrock
Manuel Göttsching - E2-E4
>1980s, ambient, electronic, drop by the studio one night and invent techno-core
Kate Bush - Hounds of Love
>1980s, pop, rock, vocal, art.rock, art.pop, synth.pop
A Guy Called Gerald - Black Secret Technology
>1990s, drum.and.bass, electronic, house, jungle
Regarde Les Hommes Tomber - Exile
>metal, post.hardcore, black.metal, sludge, sludge.metal
Khan Jamal Creative Arts Ensemble - Drumdance to the Motherland
>jazz, avant.garde, free.jazz
Matsuo Ohno - Play On Animals
>1970s, experimental, japan, sound.collage
Moolah - Woe Ye Demons Possessed
>1970s, experimental, progressive.rock, psychedelic
So in short, there was a lot of good stuff on this chart
Good job me
Anything to look forward to here?
Both Mission of Burma releases were really good, with Vs. being the better of the two. Was surprised to see how few LPs they have when I went to get more from them
Soft Boys were pretty good but I felt some of the songs were a little too silly and snotty at the same time
Listening to the Maiden now. As great as I expected it to be, but Powerslave still remains my favorite out of the six or so albums I have of theirs
I can see what you mean with The Soft Boys, but i still think most of the album is really good power pop.
It's hard for me to pick a favorite Maiden, but Powerslave is definitely one of their best.
Oh cool I overlooked that this has Run to the Hills
I was surprised how different 4 was from Another Green World, which is the only other Eno I'd heard from that period
Are all of the Ambients pretty different in scope from one another?
>Are all of the Ambients pretty different in scope from one another?
Yeah, both in terms of quality and content. One is pretty varied but largely boring, two is all piano and synths (second favorite of his ambient series for me) and three is a collab with a hammered dulcimer player (and also the worst one).
>Working on book
insert le epic family guy joke here
>The beauty of being alive, among other things, including but not limited to political theories, the nature/structure/significance/challenges of religion (or more general faith), how we become ourselves through experience or how experiences shape us, the significance of death etc.
You haven't heard Forever Changes, Future Days, Head Hunters, Spiritual Unity and 13th Floor Elevators before? And all that mainstream dadrock? What the fuck man
A lot of things are considered ''classics'', and while there is some general consensus as to which those are, the amount of them is still very large and also further dependent on individual beliefs
not sure if posting in the right bread bu anyway:
can you guys reccomend me some some quiet, kinda ambient drone works that could spam 3 hours? going to marathon james benning California trilogy and it has very little background sound so I'm trying to find some drone to listen while watching it
>go to see what /his/ is about
>"the dark ages are a myth is a meme"
Welp that was a prosperous visit
itt: albums improved by skipping the dumb irish stereotype like for real this becomes an easy 8 without it.
Königsforst was nice but every track was way too long and ultimately forgettable.
Is 2 hours and 49 minutes close enough?
>hating on the blarney stone
Now that I have a portable HDD with all my music I can finally have an updated library on linux and listen to music on my laptop which I use more than the desktop PC.
Got myself a new linux music player which is pretty cool, like it a lot despite not being nearly as visually appealing as Musicbee I like this style as well
As far as I'm concerned it used to be satire but the majority of the board went through some Poe's Law shit so now it's a combination of people who say nazi for teh lulz and people who say nazi shit because they really are that stupid.
>Are people really this dumb?
Yes, although I don't think most /pol/ people would say such a thing. /pol/ is politically retarded in many ways, but afaik they tend to also be atheist and respect science, so I'd be surprised if that wasn't satire. Global warming memes are more something for middle-aged religious bigots living in Texas or whatever, and those barely know what an internet is.
I'm making a salad for dinner. Bought some pork yesterday since it was cheap, which I will fry in chili, vinegar, soy sauce and garlic. Probs slice some carrots, tomatoes, and cucumber in there. Should I add anything else? Not sure if I wanna make a dressing or not.
It's not like I'd force anyone to experience the album as a whole every time. The fact that singles were being used for promotion is evidence that some songs can be enjoyed on their own but if someone has the time to, I would encourage at least one full listen, if not only to experience the transitions of To Be Kind.
>Pavement - Stray Slack
lo-fi pavement bootleg type stuff. Mostly good, but a bit tiresom after a while. 7/10
>Le Orme - Uomo de Pizza
Italoprog! Normal ass normal italoprog with no defining characteristics! Perfectly okay stuff. 6/10
>Tsuumi Sound System - Hotas
So I hopped on board a nordic folk train recently and have been enjoying it well enough. Then I stumbled on this and holy hot tamale in a wicker hand basket. Like sure, why not have a danceable, high-energy, nordic folk album with world music influences from every corner of the damn world. This album was certified Habañero spicy with a geniusly well handled variety of moods and ideas. The first minute was like pretty good, full and rich 8-musician folk stuff and then it just blasted off into the sky and never came down until the last track. Swiggity swooty, gimme dat 9/10 booty.
damn it, i feared paralytic stalks would be that bad. will of Montreal ever get their groove back like the emperor?
>albums r dum
>daily likey da albums
<daily = dum
it all makes sense now
Well I mean, since that means you're only really comparing it to lamb, veal and chicken, it's not much competition. Still beats chicken though.
Yep, pickled cucumber. Didn't really fit in with the dish desu.
Also should've made some dressing like this. Maybe tomorrow.
And it's 144 albums topsters doesn't have enough space :(
You really haven't been around here long enough if you're still asking this. A good amount of the popular boards here are like that where part of the population pretends and part of it doesn't realize that and actually acts like that.
Even /mu/'s like this, too.
>still beats chicken
>salad....with pork of all the fucking meats
Is this the most redundant salad that ever exists made by someone who really doesn't know shit when it comes to cooking?
Versatility doesn't mean better. And if we're talking dryness, chicken is like the king of it.
>You really haven't been around here long enough
Worst post I've ever seen.
Not my favourites, lad. I wouldn't put more than maybe 10-12 as favourites if I had to make a list.
oh hey a real world records album. that week look ok here?
>Well cooked chicken is still dryer than well cooked pork.
>nazi shit because they really are that stupid
>they really are that stupid
>Using nigger speak
>Have no idea what nazis are
>is naive liberal who will never contact with actual refugee
>implying the obvious
It doesn't matter if he's been here since the very start. Even that much worse that he is unable to pick up on it.
There's a difference between albums that are liked, favorites, and top albums. I have my top 6. All of them except Yeti are on my chart too.
Shit posting is the cheapest way to increase post counts for a thread.
Is this why James Joyce makes things like people sitting around or just walking back and forth in their backyard much more interesting than *insert generic epic fantasy event here*?
>It doesn't matter if he's been here since the very start. Even that much worse that he is unable to pick up on it.
Wrong. I've never bothered with /pol/, nor any of the boards infested with it. I wasn't really thinking it was satire, I was mostly just mocking them after I went there for more or less the first time today.
>There's a difference between albums that are liked, favorites, and top albums. I have my top 6. All of them except Yeti are on my chart too.
Yes, and no one has 144 fucking favourite albums.
>Shit posting is the cheapest way to increase post counts for a thread.
Shitposting is all that's done in /daily/ either way.
>Is this why James Joyce makes things like people sitting around or just walking back and forth in their backyard much more interesting than *insert generic epic fantasy event here*?
Yes. It may sound strange, but in a huge amount of cases style beats substance when it comes to literary quality for me. At the *very* worst, style and substance are equals.
can we just cut the excrement and get back to music reviewing and casual meme posting?
Unless you stick to the least popular boards it's impossible for you to have not experienced it. Hell you're on /mu/ you can experience that here, too.
>nobody has 144 favorites albums
If one has listened to about 3000 albums, they like about 2/3rds of them, and then an even smaller part of that (about 10%) is favorite stuff. Then and even smaller part is top stuff.
>shitposting is all that's done
Idk this thread was going fine until it got derailed. Sure it has more posts now, but that's the equivalent of an album adding more filler tracks.
No. I think that way things are written is the real substance. The musical equivalent of what you're saying is good songwriting/composition matters more than shallow surface level gimmicks.
>I think that way things are written is the real substance
The divide here is between, in effect, theory/overarching idea and smaller-scale technical aspects. Substanse comes in the form of not just narrative, but also themes and ideas that drive the work. But, the really important point is noting that how something is written and what information is being conveyed are exactly linked (except for how text is interpreted, which leaves some variety).
>The musical equivalent of what you're saying is good songwriting/composition matters more than shallow surface level gimmicks.
Technical performance quality and songwriting of a piece is more important than themes and ideas behind it. That is, would a tone poem be good if the story it supposedly portrays is one of the best stories ever written, but the music itself is trash?
I guess to further it; A tone poem is built on themes that are written to embody certain aspects of a story, presented musically in story order.
The "How" and the "what" are integrated explicitly, and that is what I am getting at. Neither is greater. If the themes accurately and precisely embody the story in such an example, than the work succeeds.
It isn't that style and substance are separate things and one is more vital than the other, they are just two words for effectively the same thing. The same thing in that, 100% of meaning in language is found directly in the words put onto a page. You can't just have a story with substance and absolutely no style, this is impossible.
On my second listen of this, I can say that it's pretty average. Some tracks don't work (Magic II) and some go by with making a impression. Magic IX is great though, listen to that one
Y U N G L E A N next
>What would go under lotta substance with no style?
No style means no substance. Style is language, language is meaning.
If you mean a lot of substance with very little style, some shit like the Hemmingway story
"For sale: baby shoes, never worn."
may fall into that category. Also most fiction where the author cares more about muh special story than actually being a good writer.