Post your favorite sonatas, concertos, trios etc.
>inb4 how do I into classical?
Here are some great impromptus.
>Listening to solo clavichord performance
>Mfw the performer starts playing piano the second half
I looked through the megas and archive and a lot of the archive links are dead. i guess i'll check rutracker but i don't know what to look for.
same goes for these:
except i was able to find Miraculous Mandarin in OP
More like this and Spiegel im Spiegel by Arvo Part senpai
Whichever you prefer, because I don't know enough about it. The plan was to get Boulez' rendition of Firebird but i'm open to anything you think fits in a similar category. I have a long commute everyday so I have a lot of time and patience to discover classical stuff.
So far my favorites have been Stravinsky's Pétrouchka and Rite of Spring and a lot of stuff by Satie, specifically his later stuff like Parade and Relache.
I'm gonna leave in about an hour but I always lurk these threads and i'll definitely listen to anything you upload.
and btw, i can convert flac to mp3, no problem. The problem is a lot of classical torrents on rutracker are full album rips in one track, and I have no way to split them into individual tracks.
I want to find a decent torrent with Heifetz's stuff so I can shamelessly and illegally download it, but I can only seem to find Mozart's and Tchaikovsky's concertos. I'm looking for the Paganini caprices and Sarasate's pieces, including Saëns Rondo Capriccioso.
Fuck, I love Heifetz.
PS.: Sarasate's own recording of his Zigeunerweisen, because it's simply great:
I do not understand a word of Russian, but I clicked the big magnet link as it seemed obvious enough. I've gotten 0% of the metadata downloaded, much less the actual thing, and the tracker lists 0 seeders.
Here's a tutorial from the /mu/ wiki.
I do not harbor much love for /mu/, but quite honestly, it seems to me like a glorified social network, which I abhor -despite the fact that it is anonymous. It's truly the among the shittiest boards on the site.
5th - Richter: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=xDTgj_69JKA
6th - Ashkenazy: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=z9cnyfET1lE (the second part is a meme, it has redundant reprisals and silly prancing, its exclusion from this video is wholly beneficial)
8th - No one. No one has performed this one yet. Everyone just played the individual notes.
Sofronitsky and Richter. Gould has a cool Scriabin 5 too.
Listen to Prokofiev's piano concerti too familia. Russians truly are the GOAT piano composers
>8th - No one. No one has performed this one yet. Everyone just played the individual notes.
1 - Argerich
2 - I'm biased towards Petrov because he was the first I heard but Bronfman and Ashkenazy are good too. Just avoid Kissin as much as possible
3 - Argerich. I unfortunately like Yuja Wangs interpretation too.
4 - Ashkenazy
5 - Richter
Absolutely based composer
What's your opinion on Arthur Lourié?
Some popular musician that no one remembers.
Popular music existed in the baroque times. It was what pleb musicians played a taverns and in the streets. Popular music has always existed alongside classical.
Schnittke piano quintet
Penderecki Threnody for the victims of Hiroshima
Shostakovich string quartets
Any Soviet/Russian modernism: Auerbach, Gubaidulina, Ustvolskaya.
Never-before-seen Bartok chart.
How can we teach computers to make better classical music?
Ginastera Piano Sonata 1
But that's wrong. Yoshimatsu, Akutagawa and Mayuzumi are all good too.
Why are there so many posts in the archive about Bartoks penis?
>inb4 poly shitposts Schnittke
thats just reality. running pattern based algorithms on existing snippets of music is just exactly regurgitating unless theres a direction on using real music composition techniques. computers cant semantically understand what music is, there needs to be a human supervisor atm
opinions on this? I know you all hate him but try not being autistic for just one minute...
The Szigeti recital and contrasts are found on the "Bartók at the piano set on rutracker"
Tiszta forras is really a placeholder until I can get a better set of his field recordings put together. They're available free as (1000-some) separate downloads at the database http://db.zti.hu/24ora/bartok.asp
My favorite concertos and sonatas (I probably forgot some)
Skriabin Sonata 10
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=dL0JLNt_3EE [Embed] Beethoven Waldstein
Rach Sonata 2
Rachmaninoff Concert 2
Rachmaninoff concerto 3
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=fDblE1CcrR4 [Embed] Pt 1
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Xck9DrAvsX4 [Embed] Pt 2
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=wkci_fyEot8 [Embed] Pt 3
Liszt Pc 1
Liszt Pc 3
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Iyg8glq0wng [Embed] Pt 1
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=YlYMmxnvERI [Embed] Pt 2
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=vLoJ23ukIoQ [Embed] Pt 3
Ravel concerto in G
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=SC2-3K-7kXk [Embed] Pt 1
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=F5CSArBvoaE [Embed] Pt 2
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=VHMgFuoNg1M [Embed] Pt 3
Ravel Concerto for Left Hand
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Jgj6jScPWK8 [Embed] (I prefer the Berliner Waldbühne version, but is not completly in YT anymore)
Hi guys I know nothing about Brahms and am doing a month of him for /daily/ this is what I have so far not much left to fill out.
Recs w/ recordings are preferred but not necessary.
Thanks in advance!
Grisey is based af. Literally everything he touches turns to gold.
Cello Sonata in Em
>no way of splitting up
You can do it pretty easily on foobar
Solo piano stuff (particularly 1.X.1905 and On an Overgrown Path)
Elegy of the Death of my daughter Olga
The Diary of one who disappeared
His Moravian folk song arrangements are quite nice too
Because Calcium went through a period were he decided the best way to discredit Stravinsky's music was by posting a picture of Stravinsky naked with a 'tiny penis'. After establishing this, he would assert that Bartok had a huge dick and that made his music superior
Academic Festival Overture is nice, as are the Variations on a theme by Haydn.
Piano Trio no. 3
Piano Quintet (it's in F Minor, not G minor like that other guy posted)
Piano Sonata no. 3
Variations and Fugue on a Theme by Handel
Op. 10 Ballades
Rhapsody in G Minor
Prelude and Fugue in G Minor
>You can do it pretty easily on foobar
No you can't. If you play it in Foobar it splits up the tracks but it doesn't literally split them into individual files which is what I need to listen in my car.
That's it. It isn't practical and even though that poster went out of his way to split the album up for me it left gaps between each section which really ruins the piece.
I know you're going to say that a piece doesn't need to be split into individual sections, and I agree with you but an album with several pieces shouldn't be combined into one track either.
1. Drag the .cue file into foobar, it'll show you a track-list
2. Select all the tracks shown
3. Right-click, go to convert
4. Set up a conversion 'template' to output whatever type of file you want and make the destination whatever folder you want it in.
You then get your individual tracks and you can delete the single-track rip since you don't need it any more.
what's /classical/'s opinion on arvo pärt?
I guess I may as well contribute to the thread.
My fav solo piano piece is Xenakis' "Evryali"
Any recs for similar stuff? Also a fan of Janacek and Ravel for their solo piano.
Do you think Brahms grew that beard in order to retain Clara's front bum scheiße as long as possible after each egregious face sitting session?
By the time Robert got committed that thing must've been caked in more refuse than Beethoven's symphonies.
Earlier someone called a piece "feminine" which is interesting to me. What makes a piece feminine or masculine?
PS i'm not baiting to start a discussion about gender rolls or transwhatever SJW crap. i'm just asking for opinions on masculine and feminine pieces of classical music because i've never thought about it before.
If you're truly interested you might want to look into Beethoven and see if you can find some material on his feminine and masculine themes in his symphonies.
Feminine themes tend to be more melodic while masculine themes are more rhythmic, however I am not 100% if this just relates to Beethoven specifically.
I've been getting into classical music recently and it's completely changed my outlook on music in general. I understand why people say that other genres are basic and boring in comparison. If I would have discovered classical music at a younger age I don't think i'd be able to appreciate a lot of the genres I do now, but I'd also know a lot more about classical as well. I listen to classical the same way I listen to noise and experimental music.
Right now I don't know anything about the language of classical music. I just sample things here and then look deeper into the pieces I like.
What are some terms and phrases that I should learn to get a better understanding of the genre and be able to talk about it clearer?
Just learned that the judges for my college transfer audition probably won't ask for a modern piece like Seven Tunes From China by Bright Sheng. A shame, too, since I've just about gotten the first and third movements to sound almost decent.
Any suggestions in regards to a concerto in the standard cello repertoire I could replace it with? I have a whole year to learn it.
>ordinary operatic bass or baritone
why even exist anymore
the only low voices that fuckin matter are oktavists
>Right now I don't know anything about the language of classical music. I just sample things here and then look deeper into the pieces I like.
>What are some terms and phrases that I should learn to get a better understanding of the genre and be able to talk about it clearer?
alright let's get you on the road to success
>brass section sucks and blows
>Who Cares If You Listen by Milton Babbitt
>Einstein on the Beach by Philip Glass is sublime in its minimalist elucidation
Both the men here are dead, you can rest now too.
>Boulez and Carter are dead
>Reich and Glass are still alive
Why is the world so unfair?
also note the carter parallel
>get to 50 year old indoctrinated by boulangers and holsts
>decide it's time to give up this hopeless path and reach for actual greatness
>get almost 60 more years of masterful music before the lord finally takes your soul
the redemption is still possible, even for sinners of the calibre of reich and glass
disclaimer: he did say it was a little too blocky and that I should've planned it out more
also the ending doesn't make sense because it's the first part of a longer cycle that I haven't finished yet
Its all in the way you write. If you write beautiful soft wind parts, in a major key, its going to sound feminine. If you write heavy, loud stabbing parts in the strings, its going to sound masculine.
The Mozart piece
Goes between the two extremes, but seems to mostly settle on the light feminine material. Especially around 0:25 he begins to really get sentimental and slushy.
>those poor excuses he calls etudes
How did we go from this
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=5EWSwXrOCKU in less than a hundred years?
idk anon. It feels like penderecki with no soul or meaning. What were you trying to say? did you feel like you communicated it? The strings at 3:36 are awesome, but all the tapping and scraping of the previous 3 minutes feels unnecessary.
I'm assuming you're still trying to find your "voice"? the strings 4:56 are very nice but its only a couple of seconds.
If you made the whole piece interesting string writing like 4:56 and 3:36 I think it would be much more successful. imo strings scraping and tapping stopped being interested after the 70s.
Always good to get a piece recorded by a real ensemble though, I'm sure you learned a lot from the experience.
it's not my favorite piece of mine, but I can tell you what I was trying to get across and maybe that will help you understand it
again it's worth noting that this is only part of a longer piece, and (in the fully expanded version) the meaning of the form of this would become more obvious as it's developed and stretched. For its purpose, introducing a form, it's notey, for sure. the arc it follows was intended to evoke futility - building rhythms and harmonies before they're broken by the more-or-less unpitched and arrhythmic tapping sounds. To an extent, I feel like this would've been more obvious if the players had more experience with new music (I was in high school and working with a high school orchestra I was in, which had almost no new music experience, so it was pretty uncoordinated). the arrival point at 3:36 is certainly meant to be fleeting, and its dissolution is part of the form of the piece.
this was all about a year ago, and I don't think I'm going to finish the cycle, mostly because I've moved on from that style (as all young composers do). But it's worth mentioning that there was a very precise personal meaning to the piece, so if it felt meaningless, that was at least a failure of communication and not intent on my part
imo scraping / tapping sounds hold the same merit as any other musical material, as long as it's used in an interesting / meaningful way
Ravel for Left Hand
Poulenc for 2 pianos
>I don't know how the modern populace takes Glass's music seriously
they dont. He's a goofy guy. No one takes him seriously, not even himself.
Luigi Boccherini's Opus 30 #6, Quintetto "musica notturna delle strada di Madrid"
>inb4 boccherini is for pleb fags
open your mind bro
FUCK YOU DONT FUCKING SHIT TALK SCRIAVIN TAKE THAT BACK YOU MOTHERFUCKER
it was the 1890s. Everyone looked like that. Look at modern composers like Thomas Ades. They no longer sport massive mustaches (unless they're Karl Jenkins)
>It works differently now
not really, popular music is just as disposable and devoid of interesting content. Lou Reed may have had some influence on bands and popular music, but his name never registered in the classical world, and will surely be forgotten in 50 odd years.
And i wasnt talking about the content of it, it just wont be as disposable with industries and internet/radio spread. Or maybe just the most memorable/enjoyable bands will be remembered and everything else will be disposed. idk
gee, sorry one composers looks "faggy" to you. might as well never listen to classical ever then, based purely on the image of those who write it.
back to your radiohead or justin beiber containment thread now, please
The highest quality music is remembered and re-performed year after year.
Popular music just isn't very high quality. Distorted guitars playing the same riff for 16 minutes with some harsh spoken word over top just isn't quality music. quality "experience" maybe, but not quality music.
damn maybe im not clear enough for you
im talking about how he poses and intended to look like he was some heroic or high class fuck in the pic. The music maybe be good (never heard his though) but that attitude is unacceptable and could probably backfire his creativity to just narcissistic wank.
>Distorted guitars playing the same riff for 16 minutes with some harsh spoken word over top
are you fucking 12 or were you born retarded?
All artists inherently think they have something important to say. Without a certain cockyness or ego, they wouldn't exist, and would be satisfied to play other peoples music, or just teach for their whole life.
Composers have to have some kind of ego or sense of self-worth in order to create music. If they dont believe their music is some of the best around, they wont have the conviction to actually write it.
Who cares how he looks? listen to his music instead. Classical music isn't about image, unlike popular music. It doesn't matter how a composer looks, we judge them purely by their music. Look at brian ferneyhough. hideous obese man, and yet one of the most respected in the art music world.
Dude, 19th century's people of quality actually were that high class, it was not an act or some cheap theatrics.
He and perhaps Stravinsky were amongst the last exemplars of the old imperial aristocracy. For instance, Stravinsky's statements about politics may seem appalling nowadays.
What I was saying is that repeating a single riff for 17 minutes could only be considered an "experience" not good music. good music gives you a good experience every time, not a "wow that was worthless and ruined my ears" experience.
Good music is made for a great experience, WITH all the technical devices the composer sees fit (although no one but other composers, conductors or musicologists will ever know about the inner workings)
Lou reed made shitty music, using shitty devices and resulted in a poor quality music and a poor quality experience. At least compared to classical music.
All popular music and bands looks pretty inferior when stacked up against art music. Its not lou's fault. He just wasn't a trained composer, nor interested in being part of the art music world.
Happy birthday to Mozart!
What are your favorite piano works by him?
I have an attachment to this one
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=bMl5PG912_M (No. 3 especially)
>All those literally who US composers
>Only 1 fucking renaissance composer
Prokofiev is modern as fuck. He didn't start writing music until the 20th century had already begun. His music may sound romantic, but it aint. he likes to modulate to foreign keys yet keep his melodies and orchestration relatively simple and clear.
Where can I easily download all the classical music? And by all, I mean literally all works by the greatest composers from 1600 - 1930's. I'm guessing this would be at least a terabyte or two, but storage space is not an issue
There must be a master torrent somewhere right? Does anyone know?
first instrument I took up. Dropped it in my teens but in hindsight wish I stuck with it. Over 10 years later and I can still play a couple songs
played this for a few years in HS band. Fucking hated it, it's the same mechanism as farting. What i actually wanted to play was the French horn. I eventually switched to bass guitar, literally the easiest band instrument
always dabbled in this, but never had the time or money to dedicate to getting good. Right now my guitar is leaning up against my amp collecting dust
what I play the most now, because it's easier than guitar. However mine has a guitar style chromatic scale, so it's more like a 3 stringed ukulele than anything. Sounds something like a lute crossed with a banjo
Here's what it sounds like: http://vocaroo.com/i/s0hXyxIK50Et
Next I want to take up the Celtic Harp. Only problem is not many places sell them and I have no idea how hard it is to learn
What do you guys think about Armenian sacred music?
The first disc of this is a really good collection of some of the best non-Western choral works I've heard.
damn you're right it is in fact in f minor. I guess I was thinking of shostakovich, whose piano quintet is also in g minor. Brahms piano QUARTET is actually in g minor though.
This is why Handel is the greatest there ever was:
Not all strictly classical, but some of my favorites (and works in progress) at the moment:
Nikolai Kapustin - Etude Op.40 No.1
Alkan - Esuquisses Op 63 No 2 "Staccatissimo"
Tchaikovsky - Valse des Fleurs pour piano
A Very Small Wish - Monstrous Monstro - Kingdom Hearts Piano Collections: Field and Battle
Assault-FFX Piano Collections
Final Fantasy X-2 (Piano Collections) - Demise
Had just started playing Haydn sonate when I moved and then got a shitty teacher, before giving up since he was making me play jazz shit. Started playing more piano recently, but not particularly competent
Played up to grade 8 standard (for any brit-posters). Also played bass clarinet, so played that in orchestras.
Main instrument. Do about 8-10 hours of choral singing per week plus ~2 hours of solo practice daily.
Go for the standalones instead of trying to tackle the ring cycle. Maybe Tannhauser or Lohengrin first, then the Ring Cycle and then Die Meistersinger if you're still keen. My personal favourite Wagner is Parsifal, but I feel like listening to that before the Ring Cycle is 'cheating'
Anyone else been listening to this based album? One of the best piano albums I've ever heard