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Piano edition.
Post your favorite sonatas, concertos, trios etc.

>inb4 how do I into classical?
https://mega.co.nz/#F!mMYGhBgY!Ee_a6DJvLJRGej-9GBqi0A
https://mega.co.nz/#F!lIh3GRpY!piUs-QdhZACFt2hGtX39Rw
https://mega.co.nz/#F!Y8pXlJ7L!RzSeyGemu6QdvYzlfKs67w
https://mega.co.nz/#F!kMpkFSzL!diCUavpSn9B-pr-MfKnKdA
https://mega.nz/#F!ekBFiCLD!spgz8Ij5G0SRH2JjXpnjLg
https://mega.co.nz/#F!4EVlnJrB!PRjPFC0vB2UT1vrBHAlHlw
https://mega.co.nz/#F!ygImCRjS!1C9L77tCcZGQRF6UVXa-dA
https://mega.co.nz/#F!il5yBShJ!WPT0v8GwCAFdOaTYOLDA1g
https://mega.co.nz/#F!DdJWUBBK!BeGdGaiAqdLy9SBZjCHjCw
http://crudblud.sjm.so/
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>>62007184
Here are some great impromptus.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=G79CJh5xwvE
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=NnWJLhV9_CY
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=kKxl3hTqOq0
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=35jVCGqRhNs
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Any other Finnish composer to note besides based Sibelius?
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>>62008044
Rautavaara
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>>62007360

Love Schubert.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=dwj4ia_FDEc

I think Brendel does Schubert better than Richter, but it could just be personal preference.
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Who is the Lou Reed of baroque music?
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>>62008227
I'm glad you enjoy the music, my friend.
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I've been listening to Stravinsky's Rites of Spring for the past two days and I love it. Where do I go now?
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>>62008360
His other ballets, especially Firebird.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=1CGrq0-OW10
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>>62008360
Bartók - The Miraculous Mandarin
Prokofiev - Scythian Suite
Mahler, Bruckner and Sibelius symphonies
Ravel - La Valse
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>>62007120
>Listening to solo clavichord performance
>Mfw the performer starts playing piano the second half
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>>62008208
Guys please I need to know
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>>62008392
what release?
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>>62008706
Start out with Boulez' renditions of Stravicky. I know the archives has his Petrushka and Pulcinella.
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https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=t-ehSS3bhB0
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you should include all these old school folders

http://www.mediafire.com/lolnoyoudont
http://www.mediafire.com/taxes
http://www.mediafire.com/pinkplasticlobster
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>>62008909
I looked through the megas and archive and a lot of the archive links are dead. i guess i'll check rutracker but i don't know what to look for.

same goes for these:
>>62008517
except i was able to find Miraculous Mandarin in OP
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>>62008208
>>62008534

Everyone Baroque composer?
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>>62009167
I'm talking about the first and third links in OP anon. You have to scroll down.
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https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=qhd7FiXCInw

>tfw malinowski is a great pianist

FACT: There is nothing wrong with that interpretation.
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>>62009207
yea but wheres Firebird? i need it for my commute today.
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>>62009429
Aw shit, I didn't notice that. I apologize anon.

Your best bet will be using a youtube downloader to download a video with Firebird, then convert that vid into mp3 with VLC.
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>>62009599
Those mp3 files would have a horrible bitrate. I don't recommend doing this. I'm pretty sure he can find Firebird on rutracker or even soulseek.
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>>62009599
i'll try to find it on rutracker i don't want to get a low quality youtube rip.
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>>62009647
Did you find it?
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>>62009899
not really because it's all seamless full album in one track flac rips that i have no way of splitting into individual tracks.
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>>62010007
What performance do you want? I'll download it and upload it here for you.
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More like this and Spiegel im Spiegel by Arvo Part senpai
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>>62010116
Messiaen - Turangalîla-Symphonie
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>>62010076
Whichever you prefer, because I don't know enough about it. The plan was to get Boulez' rendition of Firebird but i'm open to anything you think fits in a similar category. I have a long commute everyday so I have a lot of time and patience to discover classical stuff.

So far my favorites have been Stravinsky's Pétrouchka and Rite of Spring and a lot of stuff by Satie, specifically his later stuff like Parade and Relache.

I'm gonna leave in about an hour but I always lurk these threads and i'll definitely listen to anything you upload.
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>>62010244
I'm uploading Boulez' rendition.
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>>62010244
>>62010076
and btw, i can convert flac to mp3, no problem. The problem is a lot of classical torrents on rutracker are full album rips in one track, and I have no way to split them into individual tracks.
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>>62010278
I know what you mean. Those things are tricky for me, too. By the way, the upload is going to be done in about 15 minutes. You're gonna have it for your commute.
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>>62010314
you are the actual most valuable player on the team
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Why is Gluck so underrated
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>>62010532
Here it is. Enjoy it!

https://mega.nz/#!o883CDjR!KZFvHvwHb7plw0S1dzUmUykNQbJfa_bA_d_AynbN8ro
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>>62010597
Just in time too thanks
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Tatiana is GOAT
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Zjv4ESS2LqY
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I want to find a decent torrent with Heifetz's stuff so I can shamelessly and illegally download it, but I can only seem to find Mozart's and Tchaikovsky's concertos. I'm looking for the Paganini caprices and Sarasate's pieces, including Saëns Rondo Capriccioso.

Fuck, I love Heifetz.

PS.: Sarasate's own recording of his Zigeunerweisen, because it's simply great:
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=uC64hVc8ZI0
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>>62010116
pleb
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>>62011369
http://rutracker.org/forum/viewtopic.php?t=172134

Here's a huge collection of his work.
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>>62012257
There seems to be a distinct possibility that the link is dead, but thank you nonetheless.
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>>62012474
What do you mean dead? There are 20 seeders.
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>>62012612
I do not understand a word of Russian, but I clicked the big magnet link as it seemed obvious enough. I've gotten 0% of the metadata downloaded, much less the actual thing, and the tracker lists 0 seeders.
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>>62012474

>There seems to be a distinct possibility that the link is dead

Just like /classical/.
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>>62012666
Here's a tutorial from the /mu/ wiki.
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>>62007120
Scriabin 5-9 senpai

>>62008517
>Scythian Suite instead of Symphony 2
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>>62012752
I do not harbor much love for /mu/, but quite honestly, it seems to me like a glorified social network, which I abhor -despite the fact that it is anonymous. It's truly the among the shittiest boards on the site.
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>>62012807
>It's truly the among the shittiest boards on the site.
All the boards that are frequented by more users tend to become shitty.
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>>62012855
I guess so, but it is even worse than /v/, and that's saying a lot.
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>>62012758
Thank you, anon, I was completely at a loss there.
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>>62012873
>it is even worse than /v/
(not true by the way)

Also at least /mu/ is better than /b/
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>>62012955
Everything is better than /b/.
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>>62012955
Well, /b/ does hardly count.
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>>62012955
>>62012979
>>62013039

Even Metafilter is better than /b/.
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>>62012762
>Scriabin 5-9 senpai
The GOAT piano sonatas.
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What are your favorite performances of Scriabin's sonatas?
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>>62012758
>medieval cue splitter
just use foobar
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>>62013186

5th - Richter: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=xDTgj_69JKA

6th - Ashkenazy: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=z9cnyfET1lE (the second part is a meme, it has redundant reprisals and silly prancing, its exclusion from this video is wholly beneficial)

8th - No one. No one has performed this one yet. Everyone just played the individual notes.
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>>62013186
Sofronitsky and Richter. Gould has a cool Scriabin 5 too.

>>62013141
Listen to Prokofiev's piano concerti too familia. Russians truly are the GOAT piano composers

>>62013248
>8th - No one. No one has performed this one yet. Everyone just played the individual notes.
2deep4me
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>>62013273
>Listen to Prokofiev's piano concerti too familia.
Which performer would you recommend?
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>>62013362
1 - Argerich

2 - I'm biased towards Petrov because he was the first I heard but Bronfman and Ashkenazy are good too. Just avoid Kissin as much as possible

3 - Argerich. I unfortunately like Yuja Wangs interpretation too.

4 - Ashkenazy

5 - Richter
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>>62013566

>I unfortunately like Yuja Wangs interpretation too.

The only way Yuja Wang can be enjoyed - unfortunately.
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>>62013719
At least she isn't Kissin or Lang Lang senpai. We all have guilty pleasures
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>>62013774

Does anyone else find themselves subconsciously repressing the fact that Kissin and Lang Lang exist?
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>>62008044
Melartin is underrated

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=lDb2UKqwXJA
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>>62013862
Is Kissin really that bad?
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Best performance of Schubert's Winterreise? My vote goes to Josef Greindl. 2deep4u
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>>62015408
Hans HotteR
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>>62015299
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=45mXvaIW02c
Yes
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>>62012762
Absolutely based composer

>>62013186
5th Richter

7th Hamelin

8th Ashkenazy

10th Horowitz

What's your opinion on Arthur Lourié?
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=1oTHIb2akJg
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=kLxEuAZBDNA
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=tkmWlARCyeA
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Can you guys recommend me some of the darkest classical music?
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>>62017458
try soulseek
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>>62017458
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=5M7mtxfsfuU
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>>62013362
1 Richter, Moravec, Argerich
2 Gutierrez, Bolet, Petrov, Vinnitskaya
3 Kapell, Francois, Argerich, list goes on
4 Ashkenazy
5 Richter, Toradze
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>>62018077
also Francois for 5
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Who here /JapaneseComposers/?
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>>62008208
Some popular musician that no one remembers.

Popular music existed in the baroque times. It was what pleb musicians played a taverns and in the streets. Popular music has always existed alongside classical.
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>>62017458
Schnittke piano quintet
Ligeti Requiem
Penderecki Threnody for the victims of Hiroshima
Schnittke Symphonies
Shostakovich string quartets
Any Soviet/Russian modernism: Auerbach, Gubaidulina, Ustvolskaya.
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>>62021177
Shoo poly
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>>62015408
That midget guy
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>>62019317
Takematsu is the only one worth listening to imo
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What Janáček is good besides his string quartets?
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>>62007120
If you're going to post a picture of Scriabin why don't you include a mega link that actually has his stuff in it you insufferable chink
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who has the best Gaspard De La Nuit, and why is it Pogorelich

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=lqzTInRIw5s
seriously, his scarbo is balls to the wall awesome
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>>62023301
His operas.
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>>62023370
my favorite scarbo is non-late francois
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Never-before-seen Bartok chart.
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>>62024173
What makes it a large penis collection?
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>>62024317
Bartok's Hungarian bear cock was at least 9 inches long
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>>62007120
How can we teach computers to make better classical music?

http://www.hexahedria.com/2015/08/03/composing-music-with-recurrent-neural-networks/
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>>62024787
Feed them Eastern European folk music.
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>>62024840
Feed them Scriabin.
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Been all about this Borodin recently.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=aGNObWgU2Qw
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https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=XrIFwCO0SkE

Ginastera Piano Sonata 1
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=gbI_m43xpWE
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=57KBcLKr0E4
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=IQaoppelY8k
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=09PE3FJbkRw
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>>62023301
Sinfonietta

>>62017742
>major cadences
>sensitive, feminine wind and string writing
>mostly in major key
>dark

also the recording is terrible quality
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>>62024787
by teaching computers what is classified as "good music".

otherwise its just regurgitating existing music
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has there ever been a composer that was juggling more than one compositional style at the same time?
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Can anyone identify the song at 1:12:03?
https://youtu.be/7bLm7-cEyAA?t=1h12m3s
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>>62026627
Everyone from Mozart to schnittke
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>>62026321
>implying
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>>62023238
But that's wrong. Yoshimatsu, Akutagawa and Mayuzumi are all good too.

>>62024173
Why are there so many posts in the archive about Bartoks penis?

>>62026627
>inb4 poly shitposts Schnittke
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>>62024173
>not Geza Anda/Fricsay Piano Concerti
dropped immediately
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>>62024173
Can you please upload the last 3 of bottom row?
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>>62026627
Polystylism exists
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=NGSq4Kc8GNU
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=QoaTVgvxm-M
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>>62026877
thats just reality. running pattern based algorithms on existing snippets of music is just exactly regurgitating unless theres a direction on using real music composition techniques. computers cant semantically understand what music is, there needs to be a human supervisor atm
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>>62027283
no gyorgy sandor is probably the worst.
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opinions on this? I know you all hate him but try not being autistic for just one minute...
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Does anyone know where I can find recordings of Feinberg's Piano Concerti
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>>62027298
The Szigeti recital and contrasts are found on the "Bartók at the piano set on rutracker"

Tiszta forras is really a placeholder until I can get a better set of his field recordings put together. They're available free as (1000-some) separate downloads at the database http://db.zti.hu/24ora/bartok.asp
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My favorite concertos and sonatas (I probably forgot some)
Skriabin Sonata 10
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=oFn6202nrqk

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=dL0JLNt_3EE [Embed] Beethoven Waldstein

Rach Sonata 2
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=kaLkpDrdifc [Embed]

Rachmaninoff Concert 2
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=BEsCm14a7cA [Embed]

Rachmaninoff concerto 3
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=fDblE1CcrR4 [Embed] Pt 1
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Xck9DrAvsX4 [Embed] Pt 2
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=wkci_fyEot8 [Embed] Pt 3

Liszt Pc 1
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=ZP6XMbK07DY [Embed]

Liszt Pc 3
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Iyg8glq0wng [Embed] Pt 1
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=YlYMmxnvERI [Embed] Pt 2
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=vLoJ23ukIoQ [Embed] Pt 3

Tchaicovsky 1
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=MEKN2wAKRbE [Embed]

Grieg Pc
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=4AMJLiEYmZw [Embed]

Ravel concerto in G
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=SC2-3K-7kXk [Embed] Pt 1
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=F5CSArBvoaE [Embed] Pt 2
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=VHMgFuoNg1M [Embed] Pt 3

Ravel Concerto for Left Hand
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Jgj6jScPWK8 [Embed] (I prefer the Berliner Waldbühne version, but is not completly in YT anymore)
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Hi guys I know nothing about Brahms and am doing a month of him for /daily/ this is what I have so far not much left to fill out.

Recs w/ recordings are preferred but not necessary.

Thanks in advance!
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>>62008360
>>62008392
For more Strav, listen to the finale of Firebird and then the whole thing and then Petrushka, which is like a more upbeat RoS with pop sensibilities.
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>>62023238
I got to play a Takemitsu chamber piece recently. Beautiful music, but completely fucked to learn.
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>>62030185
Great taste.
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>>62027907
Grisey is based af. Literally everything he touches turns to gold.

>>62030727
Cello Sonata in Em
Clarinet Quintet
String Quartets
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=BM-6B8_Jj-o
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=U2RdH4jrelA
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>>62030727
nigga, get on that piano quintet in g minor
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>>62008044

Sallinen is great
Saariaho
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>>62010007

>no way of splitting up

You can do it pretty easily on foobar

>>62023301

Operas
Solo piano stuff (particularly 1.X.1905 and On an Overgrown Path)
Elegy of the Death of my daughter Olga
The Diary of one who disappeared

His Moravian folk song arrangements are quite nice too
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>>62027183

Because Calcium went through a period were he decided the best way to discredit Stravinsky's music was by posting a picture of Stravinsky naked with a 'tiny penis'. After establishing this, he would assert that Bartok had a huge dick and that made his music superior
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>>62030727
Academic Festival Overture is nice, as are the Variations on a theme by Haydn.
Alto Rhapsody
Piano Trio no. 3
Piano Quintet (it's in F Minor, not G minor like that other guy posted)
Piano Sonata no. 3
Variations and Fugue on a Theme by Handel
Paganini variations
Op. 10 Ballades
Rhapsody in G Minor
Prelude and Fugue in G Minor
Begrabnisgesang
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>>62031871
This. Also schicksalslied.
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https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=4XHjsxcmEjM

This is sublime. Give me something similar.
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>>62030727
Put this somewhere
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Meme bump
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>>62034134
Try the Bartók concertos. They're better than Prokofiev and on par with Ravel.
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>>62032048
>You can do it pretty easily on foobar
No you can't. If you play it in Foobar it splits up the tracks but it doesn't literally split them into individual files which is what I need to listen in my car.

That's it. It isn't practical and even though that poster went out of his way to split the album up for me it left gaps between each section which really ruins the piece.

I know you're going to say that a piece doesn't need to be split into individual sections, and I agree with you but an album with several pieces shouldn't be combined into one track either.
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>>62036211

1. Drag the .cue file into foobar, it'll show you a track-list
2. Select all the tracks shown
3. Right-click, go to convert
4. Set up a conversion 'template' to output whatever type of file you want and make the destination whatever folder you want it in.
5. Convert

You then get your individual tracks and you can delete the single-track rip since you don't need it any more.
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Thanks everyone!
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https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=NDbIDh9yRkQ

Erik Satie - Gnossienne No. 5: Modere
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what's /classical/'s opinion on arvo pärt?
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I guess I may as well contribute to the thread.

My fav solo piano piece is Xenakis' "Evryali"
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=KBIL1tVOvdo

Any recs for similar stuff? Also a fan of Janacek and Ravel for their solo piano.
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>>62034147

Do you think Brahms grew that beard in order to retain Clara's front bum scheiße as long as possible after each egregious face sitting session?

By the time Robert got committed that thing must've been caked in more refuse than Beethoven's symphonies.
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https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=PW5YkhzFd2E

Best piano trio
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>>62017458
Beethoven
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>>62038421
Nice
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Where does one start with Berio and Nono?
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>>62039555
There is some Berio in the mega archives.
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Earlier someone called a piece "feminine" which is interesting to me. What makes a piece feminine or masculine?

PS i'm not baiting to start a discussion about gender rolls or transwhatever SJW crap. i'm just asking for opinions on masculine and feminine pieces of classical music because i've never thought about it before.
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>>62041891
It's just poly being a loser about Mozart again
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>>62042351
so you don't think there are feminine and masculine pieces?
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tfw georg friedrich haas listens to your piece and calls it "beautiful" and says that he "loved it"

possibly one of the greatest moments of my life thus far
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>>62042675
Can you post it here?
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>>62042663
If you're truly interested you might want to look into Beethoven and see if you can find some material on his feminine and masculine themes in his symphonies.
Feminine themes tend to be more melodic while masculine themes are more rhythmic, however I am not 100% if this just relates to Beethoven specifically.
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>>62042675

Congrats dude.
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>>62042675
While I'm certainly no Prince of Prussia I would be elated to hear the piece.
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>>62008531
>clavichord
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>>62042675
I need to hear it.
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>>62008531
performer just realized mid performance that the clavichord was shit
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I've been getting into classical music recently and it's completely changed my outlook on music in general. I understand why people say that other genres are basic and boring in comparison. If I would have discovered classical music at a younger age I don't think i'd be able to appreciate a lot of the genres I do now, but I'd also know a lot more about classical as well. I listen to classical the same way I listen to noise and experimental music.

Right now I don't know anything about the language of classical music. I just sample things here and then look deeper into the pieces I like.
What are some terms and phrases that I should learn to get a better understanding of the genre and be able to talk about it clearer?
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>>62044372
The only one you really need to know is autism. The rest are really just supporting words.
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>>62044215
kek
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Just learned that the judges for my college transfer audition probably won't ask for a modern piece like Seven Tunes From China by Bright Sheng. A shame, too, since I've just about gotten the first and third movements to sound almost decent.

Any suggestions in regards to a concerto in the standard cello repertoire I could replace it with? I have a whole year to learn it.
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>>62045983
Anything from Haydn to Shostakovich is what they are looking for probably. Elgar, Tchaikovsky rococo variations, and Dvorak are all pretty standard choices.
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Any love for Schmitt here? His piano works are insanely good.

If you're ever looking for an equivalent to Ravel's Gaspard, check out Schmitt's Ombres.
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>ordinary operatic bass or baritone
>2016
why even exist anymore
the only low voices that fuckin matter are oktavists
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>>62044372
>Right now I don't know anything about the language of classical music. I just sample things here and then look deeper into the pieces I like.
>What are some terms and phrases that I should learn to get a better understanding of the genre and be able to talk about it clearer?
alright let's get you on the road to success

>richness
>fullness
>harmonic dissonance
>harmonic assonance
>contrapuntal
>brass section sucks and blows
>texture
>legato
>Mozzart (underrated)
>Who Cares If You Listen by Milton Babbitt
>Einstein on the Beach by Philip Glass is sublime in its minimalist elucidation
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my fucking face when i am STILL the only wuorinen fanboy
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>>62046963
thought you were talking about schmidt for a second
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>>62048546
tfw the only enescu fanboy here
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>>62048546
seriously guys, what's not to love about good old charles wuorinen

he's the catchiest serialist EASILY
>>62048661
i bet cos i never loved him personally
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>>62048546
Go to bed taxes.
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>>62048960
pls mate it's just 21:30
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>>62048982
Both the men here are dead, you can rest now too.
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>>62048999
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>>62048999
>Boulez and Carter are dead
>Reich and Glass are still alive

Why is the world so unfair?
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>>62049249
so the wicked can see the error of their ways
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>>62049321
>>62049249
also note the carter parallel

>get to 50 year old indoctrinated by boulangers and holsts
>decide it's time to give up this hopeless path and reach for actual greatness
>get almost 60 more years of masterful music before the lord finally takes your soul

the redemption is still possible, even for sinners of the calibre of reich and glass
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>>62042794
>>62044062
>>62043200
disclaimer: he did say it was a little too blocky and that I should've planned it out more

also the ending doesn't make sense because it's the first part of a longer cycle that I haven't finished yet

https://soundcloud.com/railing-at-the-moon/circa-die-i-futile
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>>62041891
>feminine
Its all in the way you write. If you write beautiful soft wind parts, in a major key, its going to sound feminine. If you write heavy, loud stabbing parts in the strings, its going to sound masculine.

The Mozart piece
>>62017742
Goes between the two extremes, but seems to mostly settle on the light feminine material. Especially around 0:25 he begins to really get sentimental and slushy.
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>>62049452
>those poor excuses he calls etudes

How did we go from this
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=0Pc0i5HO9j4

To this
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=5EWSwXrOCKU in less than a hundred years?
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>>62049476
>https://soundcloud.com/railing-at-the-moon/circa-die-i-futile
idk anon. It feels like penderecki with no soul or meaning. What were you trying to say? did you feel like you communicated it? The strings at 3:36 are awesome, but all the tapping and scraping of the previous 3 minutes feels unnecessary.

I'm assuming you're still trying to find your "voice"? the strings 4:56 are very nice but its only a couple of seconds.

If you made the whole piece interesting string writing like 4:56 and 3:36 I think it would be much more successful. imo strings scraping and tapping stopped being interested after the 70s.

Always good to get a piece recorded by a real ensemble though, I'm sure you learned a lot from the experience.
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>>62049653
You're listening to the wrong etudes son
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=zlNeHdc1kYg

Also these are sensational piano pieces:
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=G58ELWYW5-s
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>>62049742
I love Ligeti's etudes, Probably some of the best since Debussy's and Scriabin's.

I don't know how the modern populace takes Glass's music seriously
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post classical that go fast pls
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>>62049692
it's not my favorite piece of mine, but I can tell you what I was trying to get across and maybe that will help you understand it

again it's worth noting that this is only part of a longer piece, and (in the fully expanded version) the meaning of the form of this would become more obvious as it's developed and stretched. For its purpose, introducing a form, it's notey, for sure. the arc it follows was intended to evoke futility - building rhythms and harmonies before they're broken by the more-or-less unpitched and arrhythmic tapping sounds. To an extent, I feel like this would've been more obvious if the players had more experience with new music (I was in high school and working with a high school orchestra I was in, which had almost no new music experience, so it was pretty uncoordinated). the arrival point at 3:36 is certainly meant to be fleeting, and its dissolution is part of the form of the piece.

this was all about a year ago, and I don't think I'm going to finish the cycle, mostly because I've moved on from that style (as all young composers do). But it's worth mentioning that there was a very precise personal meaning to the piece, so if it felt meaningless, that was at least a failure of communication and not intent on my part

imo scraping / tapping sounds hold the same merit as any other musical material, as long as it's used in an interesting / meaningful way
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>>62049920
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=YeMZOuQ3k4I

Here's some Dupre, anon
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>>62049920
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=dPRWshWq9E4
for when you gotta go fast
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>>62007120
>Sonatas
Beethoven 8
Beethoven 14
Beethoven 21
Beethoven 23
Mozart 16
Haydn 48
Chopin 2
Liszt
Scriabin 5
Prokofiev 3
Prokofiev 4
Rautavaara 1
Rautavaara 2
Vine 1
Vine 2
Stravinsky
Bartok
Schulhoff 1
Rorem 1
Ives 2
Ustvolskaya 5
Ustvolskaya 6
Sorabji 0
Sorabji 1
Antheil 2
Bloch
Erkin

>Concertos
Beethoven 2
Beethoven 5
Rautavaara 1
Rautavaara 2
Rautavaara 3
Prokofiev 2
Prokofiev 3
Vaughan Williams
Erkin
Bartok 1
Tailleferre 1
Schoenberg
Shchedrin 1
Ravel for Left Hand
Shostakovich 2
Cowell
Ligeti
Poulenc for 2 pianos
>>
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=-gSfu4LpR14
Has there been a better piano sonata since Carter's?
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>>62050361
>sorabji
>schulhoff
>rautavaara
>erkin
K E K
E
K
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>>62024840
heh
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>>62049805
>I don't know how the modern populace takes Glass's music seriously
they dont. He's a goofy guy. No one takes him seriously, not even himself.

>>62049920
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=2GGx8TRWFVA
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>>62049920
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=c9DLBag6H1s
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>>62035515
>They're better than Prokofiev
Kill yourself
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>>62051158
go to bed andrew norman
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>>62050703
>greentexting schulhoff
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>>62052355
>greentexting greentexting schulhoff
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Luigi Boccherini's Opus 30 #6, Quintetto "musica notturna delle strada di Madrid"

>inb4 boccherini is for pleb fags
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>>62052423
open your mind bro
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Q2pSLX-mWQw
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=nm-0XONJUTw
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=xEINXjjcsNw
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=J_VQk2AUImU
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>>62052460
boccherini is for pleb fags
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>>62052460
Actually I didn't realise op was asking for piano so Boccherini's guitar is irrelevant
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>>62052476
ive never even heard schulhoff i was just memeing
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>>62052802
Now is your time to get acquainted with him then
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why do classical fags look so faggy

just look
>>62007120
looking of at a distance. who does he think he is? some kind of hero? so proud its overbearing
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>>62054245
FUCK YOU DONT FUCKING SHIT TALK SCRIAVIN TAKE THAT BACK YOU MOTHERFUCKER
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>>62047515
>harmonic assonance
Oh man.
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>>62054309
Im just saying what needs to be said. some flaws that need to be taken down

>>62020823
It works differently now. we have media and the internet and industries.
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>>62054245
it was the 1890s. Everyone looked like that. Look at modern composers like Thomas Ades. They no longer sport massive mustaches (unless they're Karl Jenkins)

>>62054751
>It works differently now
not really, popular music is just as disposable and devoid of interesting content. Lou Reed may have had some influence on bands and popular music, but his name never registered in the classical world, and will surely be forgotten in 50 odd years.
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>>62055249
it wouldnt make a difference with/without the mustache
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>>62055249
And i wasnt talking about the content of it, it just wont be as disposable with industries and internet/radio spread. Or maybe just the most memorable/enjoyable bands will be remembered and everything else will be disposed. idk
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>>62055273
gee, sorry one composers looks "faggy" to you. might as well never listen to classical ever then, based purely on the image of those who write it.

back to your radiohead or justin beiber containment thread now, please
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>>62055312
The highest quality music is remembered and re-performed year after year.

Popular music just isn't very high quality. Distorted guitars playing the same riff for 16 minutes with some harsh spoken word over top just isn't quality music. quality "experience" maybe, but not quality music.
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>>62055317
damn maybe im not clear enough for you

im talking about how he poses and intended to look like he was some heroic or high class fuck in the pic. The music maybe be good (never heard his though) but that attitude is unacceptable and could probably backfire his creativity to just narcissistic wank.
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>>62055362
>Distorted guitars playing the same riff for 16 minutes with some harsh spoken word over top

are you fucking 12 or were you born retarded?
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>>62055396
All artists inherently think they have something important to say. Without a certain cockyness or ego, they wouldn't exist, and would be satisfied to play other peoples music, or just teach for their whole life.

Composers have to have some kind of ego or sense of self-worth in order to create music. If they dont believe their music is some of the best around, they wont have the conviction to actually write it.

Who cares how he looks? listen to his music instead. Classical music isn't about image, unlike popular music. It doesn't matter how a composer looks, we judge them purely by their music. Look at brian ferneyhough. hideous obese man, and yet one of the most respected in the art music world.
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>>62055416
There are a few velvet underground songs like that. Odds are I'm older than you are, friend.
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>>62055461
great response
thanks

>>62055476
your just a bit ignorant outside of the classical world thats all, nothing hurts looking around though
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>>62055362
>quality "experience" maybe, but not quality music
good music is made for the experience, not made for a dick measuring contest of theoretical / technical virtuosity
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>>62055396
>that attitude is unacceptable and could probably backfire his creativity to just narcissistic wank
I bet you don't even listen to convicted child rapists you filthy casual.
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>>62055461
he actually looks pretty cool there

still cant imagine any of these shots to be natural
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>>62038421
beethoven was a moor
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>>62055718
Dude, 19th century's people of quality actually were that high class, it was not an act or some cheap theatrics.
He and perhaps Stravinsky were amongst the last exemplars of the old imperial aristocracy. For instance, Stravinsky's statements about politics may seem appalling nowadays.
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>>62010007
post the link were you found this?
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>>62055577
What I was saying is that repeating a single riff for 17 minutes could only be considered an "experience" not good music. good music gives you a good experience every time, not a "wow that was worthless and ruined my ears" experience.

Good music is made for a great experience, WITH all the technical devices the composer sees fit (although no one but other composers, conductors or musicologists will ever know about the inner workings)

Lou reed made shitty music, using shitty devices and resulted in a poor quality music and a poor quality experience. At least compared to classical music.
All popular music and bands looks pretty inferior when stacked up against art music. Its not lou's fault. He just wasn't a trained composer, nor interested in being part of the art music world.
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>>62045983

Not sure how much in the 'standard repertoire' Tavener's Protecting Veil concerto is, but it's a good one.

>>62048585

Schmidt is bretty guud too
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Happy birthday to Mozart!
What are your favorite piano works by him?
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>>62057133
>260 years and still underrated
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>>62057163
He will be forever underrated.
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I have an attachment to this one

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=JlMHjo7Jwhk
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Can you rec me some really emotive/melanchonic piano sonatas?
Something along these lines: https://youtu.be/9E6b3swbnWg
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>>62057374
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=aqaHP0FcJsU
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=oL_HFnnywEU
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=9LqdfjZYEVE
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=DNiNgL7yoZY
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=qq7ncjhSqtk
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=bMl5PG912_M (No. 3 especially)
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=qTrQUJ4okM4
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=e0VhKERbhkE
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=NSsKJIzwapA
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=XeEVFkEHqGc
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=KStjdclOpzI
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=JlMHjo7Jwhk
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=dE6vin5GPWA
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=YjXxT8ca4PA
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=WsdnHaz90Fw
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=t304WWDNT8I
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=50G_AhGbQkk
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Lq7yGlT6_kA
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>>62054245
I am God
-Alexander Scriabin
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>>62059143
He's right. His music is transcendental.
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http://www.dsokids.com/games/time-machine.aspx
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>>62059769
Fuck those annoying sounds.
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>>62057133
All his piano concerti from K. 451 onwards
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>>62059769
>prokofiev
>not romantic
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>>62059769
>All those literally who US composers
>John Williams
>Only 1 fucking renaissance composer

wow
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>>62059920
Prokofiev is modern as fuck. He didn't start writing music until the 20th century had already begun. His music may sound romantic, but it aint. he likes to modulate to foreign keys yet keep his melodies and orchestration relatively simple and clear.
>>
Anyone play any instruments?
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Where can I easily download all the classical music? And by all, I mean literally all works by the greatest composers from 1600 - 1930's. I'm guessing this would be at least a terabyte or two, but storage space is not an issue

There must be a master torrent somewhere right? Does anyone know?
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>>62061611
did you see the OP post? I mean sure it's not completely comprehensive (nothing really is) but it's a start
>>
>>62057133
I got you, senpai

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=0e7zpw-B_FE
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>>62062061
fucked that up. Can't forget about the single greatest achievement to keyboard, can we?

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=DDMvvelPXj0
>>
>>62062134
kek
this is amazing
>>
>>62052460
Seen Master and Commander: the Far Side of the World
>>
>>62043218
>>62044215
Enjoy not being able to do bends or vibrato
>>
>>62061399
I do not play any instruments and I know next to nothing about theory
>>
>>62055753

>moor

moron
>>
>>62061399
Synth, and I know a bit of music theory,
>>
>>62061399
I play the piano at a kinda intermediate level.
>>
>>62061399
Only pleb instruments: guitar, piano and drums

I'd like to learn cello or vibraphone or something like that but I'm too poor
>>
>>62063008
>pleb instruments
>piano
What? It's the most patrician instrument.
>>
>>62061399
>piano
first instrument I took up. Dropped it in my teens but in hindsight wish I stuck with it. Over 10 years later and I can still play a couple songs

>trumpet
played this for a few years in HS band. Fucking hated it, it's the same mechanism as farting. What i actually wanted to play was the French horn. I eventually switched to bass guitar, literally the easiest band instrument

>electric guitar
always dabbled in this, but never had the time or money to dedicate to getting good. Right now my guitar is leaning up against my amp collecting dust

>"stick" dulcimer
what I play the most now, because it's easier than guitar. However mine has a guitar style chromatic scale, so it's more like a 3 stringed ukulele than anything. Sounds something like a lute crossed with a banjo

Here's what it sounds like: http://vocaroo.com/i/s0hXyxIK50Et

Next I want to take up the Celtic Harp. Only problem is not many places sell them and I have no idea how hard it is to learn
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>>62057374
Schmitt's Ombres and Ravel's Gaspard
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>>62063008
>Can't even save 3 months for a cello
WHat? Just budget. You shouldnt hold your life back because you caouldnt afford it at that moment
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What do you guys think about Armenian sacred music?
The first disc of this is a really good collection of some of the best non-Western choral works I've heard.
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>>62063008
>piano
>pleb
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>>62059769
>this Stravinsky
>>
>I've clear all data on my uptobox account. My big mistake, sorry all friends. This will be recovered soon. Sorry again!
Thang pls
>>
What are your top 5 Mozart piano concertos?
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>>62066982
1. 20
2. 21 & 27
3. 24
4. 17
5. 25
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>>62066982
23, 19, 27, 21, 14.
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>>62066982
Beethoven 5
Rachmaninoff 3
Tchaikovsky 1
Rachmaninoff 2
Grieg
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>>62030727
>>62032090
>>62034072
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=ff-LGGl4wCU
damn you're right it is in fact in f minor. I guess I was thinking of shostakovich, whose piano quintet is also in g minor. Brahms piano QUARTET is actually in g minor though.
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This is why Handel is the greatest there ever was:

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Aze_fQ7j0Mw
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>>62057133
google likes beethoven more than mozart i guess
>>
Not all strictly classical, but some of my favorites (and works in progress) at the moment:

Nikolai Kapustin - Etude Op.40 No.1
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=EJww3q32OZE

Alkan - Esuquisses Op 63 No 2 "Staccatissimo"
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=svpCJjLsr18

Tchaikovsky - Valse des Fleurs pour piano
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=sNnXiwglw68

A Very Small Wish - Monstrous Monstro - Kingdom Hearts Piano Collections: Field and Battle
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=9HzuYJcqeFc

Assault-FFX Piano Collections
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=q51tR1qnL28

Final Fantasy X-2 (Piano Collections) - Demise
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=91ZrAkNMMas
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>>62064493
never heard of it but def gonna chek it now
>>
>>62061399

Piano:
Had just started playing Haydn sonate when I moved and then got a shitty teacher, before giving up since he was making me play jazz shit. Started playing more piano recently, but not particularly competent

>Clarinet
Played up to grade 8 standard (for any brit-posters). Also played bass clarinet, so played that in orchestras.

>Voice
Main instrument. Do about 8-10 hours of choral singing per week plus ~2 hours of solo practice daily.
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>>62064493

When going through Hovhaness' output earlier today, I discovered that he had an 'Armenian' phase, so I may check thatout

>>62066982

1. 23
2. 9
3. 20
4. 25
5. 26
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>>62070445
Jazz is fun though senpai. What do you not like about it?
>>
how do i into wagner? his operas are so long lmao
>>
>>62070947
you dont
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>>62070947

Go for the standalones instead of trying to tackle the ring cycle. Maybe Tannhauser or Lohengrin first, then the Ring Cycle and then Die Meistersinger if you're still keen. My personal favourite Wagner is Parsifal, but I feel like listening to that before the Ring Cycle is 'cheating'
>>
Is Andrew Lloyd Webber a hack?
>>
>>62071443

Yes. If he had stuck to musicals, he would be fine since he's a good composer of musicals (i.e. not part of art music) but his attempts at art music are woeful
>>
>>62071680
>his musicals are good
Hey, what if I played one note... THEN THE 4 TO THE RIGHT OF IT???
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>>62071093
>favorite is Parsifal

This is how you identify a true admirer of Wagner's works. Parsifal is without a doubt his best work, and a delight to see performed.
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>>62071772

It's impossible to take anyone seriously who thinks otherwise.
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Anyone else been listening to this based album? One of the best piano albums I've ever heard
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>>62070947
listen to it conducted fast :^)
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>>62070001
Aside from Mozart maybe.
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>>62066982
17,19,22,24,27
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>>62066982
17, 23, 25, 26, 27
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