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Can someone define IDM?
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>>62004728
Music defined by getting a score of 130 or more on an IQ test.
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aphex twin, autechre, boards of canada, squarepusher, the list could go on...
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music that sounds like aphex twin
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>>62004728
Dance music for people who don't actually dance
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> I hope the stuff I've picked up over the last few years is from the clever end of dance music. I know there's Intelligent Dance Music, but who's making Unintelligent Dance Music. Are they happy with themselves?

>Whoever it is must be continuously asking themselves if they're good enough. They must be in a rut. When my snooker career was in a rut I retired. Maybe there's Reasonably Intelligent Dance Music, too. RIDM.

https://thump.vice.com/en_uk/article/i-went-to-the-masters-snooker-with-steve-davis-and-we-talked-about-techno
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smart fun cool talented creative wacky manic FUN
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make a song and layer it in beat repeats to express your neurotic genius
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https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=xdzX35VDVZE

here's your definition
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https://youtu.be/84gOQXe43Fo
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music for people like avant math god
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>>62004936
ew, no. he likes all the shitty breakcore stuff.
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electronic music with odd rhythms and/or glitchy drum samples, often accompanied with cold techno synths

IDM is a stupid name tho imo
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https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Artificial_Intelligence_%28series%29
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Electronic music with ambient instrumentals, with a focus on downbeat hip-hop-inspired rhythms and spaced-out, stoned out dreamy effects processing.
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https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=FYH8DsU2WCk
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>>62004940
thats the average idm listener

i went to see them live there was someone there with their handler or something lol
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>>62004728
marketing buzzword once used to refer to ambient and detroit techno that eventually grew into a genre that now refers to (mostly) crappy breakcore and glitchy malltempo
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>>62004973
what are you trying to imply here
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>>62004974
err autechre
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>>62004974
eh, not really.
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Feel like it's a good place to ask this.
What did you guys think of Syro.
Personally I liked it.
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>>62004986
damn you must live in a shitty city. people were dancing and going crazy where i saw them.
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Calling Autechre IDM is like saying Kraftwerk were a krautrock group
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>>62005001
Good album, if a little soft and loose.
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>>62005018
you could say that about all "idm." it's more of a scene than a legit genre. dumb term desu.

autechre is literally just techno with some hip-hop flourishes.
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>>62005052
>hip hop flourishes
what are you on
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>>62005052
Got any recs for techno that sounds like Autechre?
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>>62005060
Not that anon, but Tri Rep, Chiastic Slide/Envane and EP7 are all pretty hip-hop influenced mate. Parts of Draft and Exai are too.
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>>62005060
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=_Zmq-6oqfz8
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=J60pepCNkV4&feature=player_detailpage&t=202

>>62005062
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=6bXIe1UFMtw
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>>62004728
I made a picture specifically for this purpose
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>>62005101
Objekt is more like Autechre-influenced techno
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>>62005060
When ppl say Autechre r hip-hop, they're latching on to what Sean and Rob have said about their love for electro as the root of their interest in synthetic, inhuman sound. But does that really sound like hip-hop influence to you? Dan Lopatin was inspired by DJ Premier to utilize the sampler as his musical tool but is he a hip-hop artist? I think it's a shitty, shallow analysis.
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>>62004728
a marketing term coined by music journalists in the mid 90s to refer to the british warp-records-centric ambient techno movement that expanded as the artists they originally described went into different styles
now it's best described as the aftereffects of the sound of autechre's tri repetae and its accompanying eps
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>>62005102
add a picture of a hihat doing the same thing, and get a huge kick drum picture and compress and filter the shit out of it, and you will have a .jpg version of an edm track
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>>62005144
They're into oldskool breakbeat-based hip-hop, not the modern trap sound. The influence is hearable in their music.
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>>62005001
pretty good as a poppy introduction to rdj for the new generation of listeners, not god-tier but still pretty good
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>>62004728
Electronic music with complex structure.
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>>62005144
Have you listened to much 80s hip-hop? The type based on 808s? It's pretty clear imo. The end of Clipper even has a direct homage.

Of course like everything they do, they abstract it/blur the lines (and pretty much abandoned on a few albums), but the root of the percussion is definitely due in part to hip-hop.

>>62005148
I would say the 2000s "IDM Sound" is more indebted to RDJ Album.
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>>62005148
>the aftereffects of the sound of autechre's tri repetae and its accompanying eps
I wish that was the case. What we have is poor imitations of RDJ Album and MHTRTC.
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>>62005266
the orchestral tracks on rdj are bad though senpai
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>>62005001
the most detailed and complex acid techno record of all time.
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>>62005242
rdj album is indebted to flutter m8 :^)
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>>62005825
More like jungle.
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>>62005872
what jungle sounds like rdj album?
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>>62004936
>caring about tripfags
wow
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>>62005917
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=yD-RZw2a4TM
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>>62005984
lol is that what you think jungle is?
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>>62005825
Do you really think Richard cared about or payed attention to what they were doing?
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>>62006013
Not enough Ali G for you?
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>>62006038
yeah
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intelligents music for the thinking man who drinks scotch and smokes fine cigar
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>>62006066
Idts
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>>62005917
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=dkWrzrcv738
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>electronic music
>>EDM
>>>techno
>>>>ambient techno
>>>>>IDM

A variant on techno with more emphasis on experimental sounds with heavy breakbeat usage and less emphasis on danceable 4/4 beats.
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>>62006078
he plays autechre in his DJ sets senpai
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>>62006100
54 posts late to the thread, turny.
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>>62006100
What is techno without danceable 4/4 beats though?
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>>62006158
electro
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>>62005430 (cont.)
the fact people don't even acknowledge it as an acid record is a testament to the ignorance of americans

literally, watch anthony (pewdiepie of music) fantano's review, he doesn't even say acid once

furthermore, the recording quality is insanely high, listen to any of his older shit, it sounds fucking lo-fi in comparison (disregarding "the tuss" project, i feel like that was halfway between his new and old work) honestly if you are saying its just "okay" you must be using some shit fucked logitech speakers or iphone earbuds.
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>>62006158
LIES, Lobster Theramin, the list goes on...
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>>62006190
But IDM is not electro, obviously

I don't get how you can say "oh it's a variant of techno only without the most important aspect of it"
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>>62006201
>you must be using some shit fucked logitech speakers or iphone earbuds.

isn't that basically most people now?
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>>62005430
>start listening to a techno record
>turns out it's actually electro
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>>62006201
Does Fanta no know anything about acid house or techno
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intelligence dancing music
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>>62006210
i'm not him, i just thought of an answer
although i do think idm has more to do with electro than techno, but only because of where the kick drums are
and it owes as much to synth pop or jungle (as someone already said)
and literally who cares anyway, it's not even a proper genre
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>>62006206
>https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=4a1Qw4jQqrM
ok
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>>62006241
the jungle elements didn't appear until 94/95, IDM has lots to own to electro though

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=ZmI2PPsJOxs
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>>62005242
>I would say the 2000s "IDM Sound" is more indebted to RDJ Album.
yeah, but I wouldn't say that that sound is the stereotypical or signature idm sound as there is/was a fuckton of breakcore that isn't idm
>>62005266
yeah there are a lot of ripoffs of those but ultimately the kind of base sound unique specifically to idm that no other genre can claim to have is derived from that metallic spacey tone that that ae's stuff had
if you look back at the early 2000s there's a fuckton of forgotten mediocre albums based off that sound that nobody remembers because everyone and their mother jumped on the 'I want to make weird bloops' bandwagon
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>>62006294
But breakcore is breaks and hardcore.
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>>62006268
didn't aphex and autechre start out by making hardcore records?
that's almost like them actually being jungle artists themselves
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>>62006294
>if you look back at the early 2000s there's a fuckton of forgotten mediocre albums based off that sound
like what

>>62006311
no one's saying otherwise you insecure autist
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>>62006201
>>62005219 here, not as emphatic about it as you are but I'd say the best way to describe it would definitely be pop acid
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>>62006323
Autechre used to make rave music, the #1 IDM track according to Factmag was a tune made purposefully for raves against the Criminal Justice Bill in England at the time.
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>>62006323
they did, Cavity Job is straight-up breakbeat hardcore

>>62006354
goddamn you're insecure and an autist
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>>62006371
>goddamn you're insecure and an autist

loool what?

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Anti_(EP)
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>>62006224
i seriously doubt it
he knows his shit when it comes to pitchfork-tier indie shit but clueless about anything electronic.

>>62006342
i feel like syro was for the analog synth heads, for the longtime fans that got inspired and tried to emulate him, in classic style rich comes out of nowhere and pushes the bar to an unrealisticly high standard once again. nothing combines the textures and eccentricity of that record, maybe soon a former rephlex artist will come close tho (hint-hinty) :)
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>>62006391
2nd response in
>>62006337
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>>62006405
anon asked about what they did before IDM so I answered him you retard
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>>62006294
Yeah, I'd say that timbre wise TriRep was extremely influential to IDM (super crunchy and metallic) but rhythmically? I dunno. Maybe Autechre's hip hop influence is overinflated at times, but TR (particularly the first half) is really, really fuckin hip hop, and apart from their label mates at skam that style never got big in IDM (it's a bit different from the sort of hip hop downtempo messed with)

I always thought that most 2000s IDM artists were ripping either Amber or LP5 if I had to chose an album by them.
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>>62006294
>>62006432
What albums sound remotely close to Tri Repetae?
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>>62005001
https://www.oxforddictionaries.com/definition/english/syro-

ITS A CONSPIRACY!! HE KNEW WE WERE GOING TO BOMB THE EVERLOVING FUCK OUT OF SYRIA!!

jk bro, jet fuel steel beams etc.
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>>62006311
it started out that way with alec empire and then was reappropriated by the idm crowd to the point where it was only tangentially related and had more in common with jungle
>>62006337
I don't remember many but here's one http://www.discogs.com/Inkblot-Love-Your-Mother/release/42331 (tho ironically the only reason I remember it is because it has some decent non-idm glitch/sample elements)
that being said if you're like me and go to shitty cheapo used media stores and buy the cheapest CDs you can based of the cover and looking it up on discogs you'll run into that type of stuff a lot and promptly just give it to goodwill
>>62006432
this is basically what I was trying to say but better worded, it's definitely influential timbrally rather than rhythmically
>>62006462
no good ones unfortunately
>>62006402
>hint-hinty
seeing as you're just another anon this is probably bs but I'm interested in some details
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>>62006683
i dunn said all i can say :)
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>>62006683
you keep talking about music but don't name anything specifically

if we're talking about stuff like ISAN and the Morr Music gang then those aren't close to being similar to Autechre
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Is that seriously what IDM stands for? fucking hell
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>>62004728
hipsters with chip on they shoulder creating bullshit genres to feel better about themselves/5
oh yeah and mainstream isnt intelligent XDDD
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>>62006683
>was reappropriated by the idm crowd to the point where it was only tangentially related and had more in common with jungle

are you saying jungle is IDM now lmao
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>>62006767
these "hipsters" made these terms before you were even born so i don't think you're an authority to make these claims, dumb /mu/ kid.
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>>62006792
no, I'm saying that the appropriated idm version of breakcore had more in common with jungle than hardcore because they took greater influence from jungle than hardcore
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>>62006807
making up fantasy genres to spit on casuals doesnt mean you stop sucking at producing :^)
besides its not like you can choose when u pop out of moms vagina so not fair to always nostalgy about "golden" 80´s/90´s whatever
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alec empire started out as a decent and original jungle artist but then somehow got lost in a pile of camo netting and megaphones
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>>62006818
k, fair enough
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>>62006492
hi
richard here
you are 911% correct

watch these
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=pTbIu8Zeqp0
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=u83Y6op_1p8
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=gxVONyqXMJg

read this
http://humansarefree.com/2014/10/exposing-shadow-forces-behind-nwo.html

take this
https://psychonautwiki.org/wiki/1P-LSD

then we can talk more, k hun
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>>62006743
we're not talking about that type of stuff, we're talking about the shitty pure electronic stuff pumped out by pseudo-indie subsidiaries of major labels who jumped on the bandwagon too late or dead-end indie labels that died because they kept pumping out shit
for example, see the link in the post you replied to
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IDM was a scene, not a genre.
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>>62007966
this is somewhat true
it was a scene that defined a sound that then defined the scene to a degree
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>>62008042
>defined a sound

that literally no one can agree on
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>>62008058
then it defined sounds (plural)
>ambient techno for listening
>drill n bass breakcore
>whatever tri repetae could be called (i'd say the 'base' sound of idm)
>an odd subgenre of acid with rdj's analord/tuss projects
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>>62005001
Acid techno isn't really my thing but I loved the shit out of this album. Not RDJ's best by a country mile but still a solid record
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IDM is dumb. It's circlejerking and shouldn't be conidered a genre at all. If you say "bruh, i listen to idm, you heard of it?" you should kill yourself. It assumes that everything that's not IDM is for dumb people, which is not true at all.

tl;dr It's austism.
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>>62008294
this was better
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>>62008311
mad
>>62008349
not the anon you're replying to but is it similar to rdj's acid stuff? i'll check it out in a bit
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itt: people who just can't help but apply social horseshit to their music
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>>62008365
nah not really, just quality squelchy acid techno
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IDM is not a genre btw
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>>62008390
i know... it was a term americans used to describe our music because they are unfamiliar with the history and subgrenres of dance music
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>>62004728
electronic listening music
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>>62009570
So Tycho and Macintosh Plus
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>>62006886
B.o.B go home
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>>62008375
Not my fault the genre has such a pretentious name
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>>62009676
>genre
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