/gg/ - Guitar and Bass General

I'm a noob when it comes to guitars/amps/pickups but I'm highly interested. I have a Lyon and a Strat. What would be the best affordable electric guitar under 250? I like bright and mid-range tones, which some say would fall into the Stratocaster field, but are there other electric guitars with the same features? Sorry for the noobness.

Diminished coolness: On any Dom7b9 you can play whole/half or half/whole diminished scale. So it's like two modes, which probably explains this weird hybrid scale Jeff Loomis is using. It's a mixture of both but it doesn't properly repeat at the next octave. If I find it, I'll post it.

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Since when was Arnold a guitarist?

Also, this thread is now "/gg/ - Political Edition". Post guitars/guitarists that have some politics intertwined in their history/success/etc.

>pic related
>Working class oppression

>>62003285
Sorry for a non answer but do you need three guitars? I say sell the two you have and up the level of what you can get. I still don't know what's good in the price range, though.

>>62003300
>Arnold
At first, I thought he was just posing but it looks like he's plugged in.

>>62003454
"Why would you need 3 guitars?"

Because guitars sound different from eachother? Are you new to guitars or something?

>>62003512
>I'm a noob when it comes to guitars/amps/pickups

I thought you were new that's why I'm asking. I, personally, have three guitars for just that reason but they're all $1-3K. At the price range you're quoting, different doesn't necessarily mean good. If you're more advanced, then stop with the catfishing. It hinders the process of giving appropriate advice.

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I started playing guitar a week ago and I have a few questions

1. How to get better at upwards strumming? I have no problems strumming downwards but when it comes to strumming up I cannot for the life of me do it correctly

2. Singing and playing at once will come with time, right? I tried it but couldn't. It's like my brain locks up and can only do one thing

3. What's the strumming pattern for "Baby for pree"? My first goal to guitar-learning is learning how to play all of my favourite NMH songs

>>62003664
I'm a different person, I currently own 5 guitars, I own a couple of cheap ones, the cheapest being 60 euro's, the most expensive being around the 1k mark. Guitar cost is a complete joke and doesn't say anything about the quality of the instrument. A "Good" instrument is a subjective thing for the biggest part, especially when it comes to the anus fucking market of guitars, since every guitar player prefers different guitars and different sounds. The perfect guitar is a guitar that does exactly what you want from it, it being 60 euro's or 5000 euro's doesn't matter. Telling him to sell his old instruments is completely ridiculous for that reason. I've played some expensive guitars that I didn't like at all, and would take my 60 euro strat clone over those guitars anyday..
>>62003285 should honestly just go to a couple of guitar stores and play some of the cheaper guitars. There are some absolute gems to be had for no money at all.

>>62003454
>why do you need three guitars

Honestly I don't. I just need two actually, a H-H and a SSS and I'm good.

But I just like collecting them. If Mr Timmons over there can spend thousands on watch collection, or Paul over there can buy a Audi, or Jimmy here buys dual GTX 980, why can't I shelf out a 1.2k for a quality guitar?

I have some bass gear questions.

A. How good is the Fender Select? Especially compared to stuff like those 70's Bass reissues, Jazz Bass deluxe, etc.

B. How versatile is Rickenbaker? Of course it's very good for playing super tough rock stuff (that I do play sometimes) but how good is it for playing soul/funk grooves? And how good is it for Jazz?

>>62003773
Good chord changes for just a week of playing.

Maybe your pick angle? If you're attacking with a 45 degree pick angle, are you also strumming at that angle or just straight up and down? If your pick hits flat, it's harder. Do you use a wrist or elbow motion up and down or a forearm roll? One of those three might suit you better.

>>62003951
>why do you need three guitars?
He purposely misquoted me so that he could post his long-winded "expert" advice. If the answer is yes to, "Do you need them?" Then that's fine by me.

>>62004146
what if he just wants them? and does not need them?

What you guys think about hagstrom basses? I own one from the 80's and I wonder how much it's worth. It's a really good instrument.

Also I own a custom made bass by a not so known guy named tim frick, it also really really well made warwick inspired with bartolini pickups. I got it for around 1,700$ second handed. How much do you think it's worth?

I'm
>>62004137
btw I just forgot some questions.

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I have a little bit of a question about music theory.

I have this progression in A# lydian that goes I - II - iii - iii (A# - C - d - d) but I want to get more out of it.

There is like a simplified rule that says that in the Ionian scale, chords in grades 1, 3 and 6 create like "stabilty" mood in the progression, 2 and 4 build up "tension" and 5 and 7 create an "uncomfortable" mood that sort of asks to go back to the "stable" chords.

Does that apply to Lydian and all the rest of the modes as well?

>>62004137
Rick can be pretty versatile but you've basically got one pickup. The neck pickup's only real value is that it is, technically, a neck pickup. So Jazz might deserve a better bass for low end thump. If you use a really old Rickenbacker it's impossible, but newer ones have a decent tone circuit that has a bit more low end. You'd probably want to run both pickups on and EQ boost the lows.

tl;dr It's possible but I wouldn't do it.

>>62004168
Semantics.

>Can I have some cake?
You can.
>Where is my cake?
You didn't ask, "May I have some cake?"

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Guitar builders and luthieros! How possible this thing would be? I'm planning to build a wooden replica of 'the Maccaferri plastic guitar'.
Any thoughts how big operation that will be and how will this affect the tone? I'm not a very gold-eared and I'm pretty ascetic on the tone, but sure I don't want it to sound dead at all.

>>62004230
I annoy people at work with that shit

>Can I use your pen?
I'm sure you can!
>......
*keep doing what I'm doing
>Oh for fuck's sake - MAY I borrow your pen?
Certainly! You only had to ask!

The worst offender is our media/marketing guy, which explains why his copy always needs to be double checked before going out

>>62003773
About the second question, it is a matter of practice, don't worry. Start by playing the root of each chord and humming to them until you find the right beat. Then add words and deveolpe that shit until you find the right timing for the singing and the chord change. Then you master the song.

Sure, digging the song and the playing helps, but you will find it is just a matter of proper timing.

May I suggest practicing to Nirvana's "Polly"? It is really easy, has a nice flow rythm-wise, it also has both the "normal" singing-when-the-chord-starts-playing thing as well as the singing-a-little-later-after-the-chord-starts-playing thing.

>>62003773
>1. How to get better at upwards strumming?
train over some simple chords of your chose. it will come with time, like everybody else

> Singing and playing at once will come with time, right?
yes, but you gotta train everyday.

It's very simple stuff, don't overthink it.

>>62004258
this thing acoustic? Also, you have woodworking experience already? This isn't a small project when you consider shaping the sides and bracing, carving the top, on top of the other guitar things. /diy/ is a better resource, though I would wait until you've done preliminary research.

>>62004298
It's fine for s joke but be aware that can is ambiguous. For example, you could say that they only can use the pen if you allow them to have it. By answering yes to the question you are confirming that they will be able to use your pen. You could say that it's always physically possible for them to use the pen, but it's actually only probable, and not possible without violating norms. However, if you give it to them, they are %100 able to use it. They "can" use your pen.

>>62004351
It will have a piezo in it.
I'm not gonna do it right away, will do a couple of electric guitars (both hollow & solid body) first and if they turn out just fine, will do the Maccaferri replica. If they turn out junk I will do as many as I need to get a flawless result.
And I have done a bit of research, watched countless of hours of tutorials from various builders so I know pretty much everything - though information is just a tip of the iceberg. I will buy some informative book on building one day. But I promise you, anon, I will practice to the level of a Japanese wizard on this.

>>62004208
Sauce on this clip?

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>>62004202
>hagstrom basses
I like the headstock on the Viking (and at least one other model). The bassist in Broder Daniel played one so, I guess, it could be a 90s model.

>>62004298
>I annoy people at work with that shit
Top zozzle!

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reposting crappy project bass mockup. As some of you know I've already got the bass and upgraded the first two pickups. I'm holding off on putting the remaining pickups and controls in until I'm done with a gig coming up in a couple weeks. But seeing some of the cool pickups in here has made me wonder about putting something other than a sidewinder in the neck position. Anyone know of any pickups in the neck position with really unique tones? I wouldn't use the neck pickup for much if it doesn't offer a cool sound.

>>62003285
Telecasters and their clones also fall into that bright trebly range too, probably even more so than Strats.
For something a little more full sounding but not quite as trebly, try an SG or a Les Paul.
Honestly though if you're just starting out, I'd invest in a decent amp before really upgrading your guitar.
One of the mistakes a lot of beginners make is spending a lot on a good guitar while still running it through a crappy amp. An electric guitar is only one part of a system-the other part of that systemie your amp. The guitars you've already got will do the job just fine if you plug them into decent amps.
A great amp will make an average guitar sound great.
An awful amp will make a great guitar sound awful.

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So I just bought this.
It looks really ridiculous looking and fits in a handbag, but I'm pleasently surprised, it's decently loud and the distortion doesn't flub around.
The cab is a harley benton G112 Vintage from thomann, which is basically just a celestion V30 in a box of plywood.
The only problem is that you can't get loud and clean with it, so basically you can't play jazzy stuff, but I'm not really plannning on doing that until a while.
I might swap in the stock tube for something a bit cleaner and run in an EQ pedal in the FX loop later, but anyways for 300€ it's hard to get anything really versatile.

>>62005557
>fits in a handbag
Are you a girl?

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>>62005695
No, I was actually thinking about the kind of plastic bag you use to put your fruits/vegetables.
It probably fits in a handbag too though.

Are there any other good low price hole in the wall type places like RondoMusic I should check out?

>>62005304
That being said, what amp would you recommend for practicing at home that is a good well rounded amp for a semi-beginner?

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>>62003205
reminder that Arnie is a gun grabber

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>>62006188
You mean like when he grabs guns in movies?
>Q: Where do you stand on gun control?
>A: I am a strong supporter of the second amendment. The U.S. constitution allows for law-abiding citizens to own a firearm.

>Source: 2003 Gubernatorial campaign website, JoinArnold.com , Aug 29, 2003

Also ted nugent sucks and is an asshole

>>62005987
There aren't too many websites like that but there are other cheap brands worth your time. I don't know many but jay turser comes to mind. I think they ship from Europe though.

>>62004258
Not a big deal if you've already got woodworking/cabinetry experience.
The thing to remember with that guitar is that the kind of plastic Maccaferri used was very stiff and brittle, so it made those guitars REALLY trebly-great for acoustic lead tones.
A good spruce or maple top will get you there. Maybe not quite as bright, but more than enough for most people's tastes.

What other guitars have the Mustang/Jaguar-type growl to them when played through vintage-style tube amps?
Upgrading from a Affinity Strat on my birthday and I wanna try out a few new guitars before settling on the meme

>>62006436
Good to know! Maybe the biggest problem is to make the top fit on the sides. Or otherwise.

>>62004208
ok first of all, that's not really a lydian progression, it's just a progression. the major II is called a secondary dominant (V/V), other than that there's nothing really lydian about that progression. the specific sound with lydian is the airy #4/#11 sound.

what you're looking for is voice leading. if i were you i'd completely forget about trying to label a progression in terms of modes, because it's just a waste of time.

also it's probably better if you were to think of that starting on Bb instead of A#.

>>62006316
Thanks I think I may take a gander m8

>>62006276
ted nudgent is a douchebag, but this is a really good song

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=_onagRhKN5E

the fuzz breakdown near the end is really heavy, especially considering the year this came out

>>62003300
>Also, this thread is now "/gg/ - Political Edition". Post guitars/guitarists that have some politics intertwined in their history/success/etc.

Nope

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Little family photo action going on here. Resurrected my Gibson back from the dead after 7 years. Walrus Audio Phoenix is on the way. And probably that new Echoplex delay coming out. And, of course, a memory man (big box) if I can find one. Tinnitus is still hanging around. I'd call the hotline but I always get the machine. How the hell can I leave a message after the beep if it never stops? FUCK.

Quick question:

Is it correct to talk about cadences in phrygian mode (for eg)

deceptive cadence in phrygian mode?

>>62006473
mustangs don't have growl normally. I don't really know what sort of sound you're describing.

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So I have one of these bad boys:
http://www.amazon.com/Carvin-BRX15-3-3-Way-Speaker-Cabinet/dp/B017WVGW7E

Worth about $300-$400 in present condition I'd say. Anyway, this mafck on craigslist wants to do a partial trade where I give him the Carvin cab + $400 (gonna try and talk him down to $350) and he gives me pic related

Good deal or am I getting ripped off?

>>62006473
>>62006694
guitars shouldn't have growl. growl is for bass

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>>62006276
>You mean like when he grabs guns in movies?

>“I’m for gun control. I’m a peace-loving guy.”
>Source: Time magazine cover story , Aug 18, 2003

The man is a gungrabber, no amount of cherrypicking will change that fact. And so is Clint Eastwood, by the way.

>>62006740
Forgot to mention the conditions of each cab
The Carvin is in like new condition, and the Ampeg is in good condition with some signs of wear. Everything works as it should on each cab

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>>62003205
post /fit/ guitarists

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>>62006607
>ted nudgent
>douchebag
pick one, the man is about as based as it gets
>tfw you're not Ted

>>62003205
reminder to prune out the extension shit when you copypaste a new /gg/ thread

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>>62006641
I would never want to own this much equipment unless I was famous. Otherwise it's just embarrassing.

Now everyone who comes to your house knows that you have a failed dream.

>>62003205
>
has Arnold ever produced an EP, would fucking buy/5

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>>62006790
kek, /fit/ting filename
>>62006800
Agreed, although others have done worse in the past, like deleting VST links.

This is a bit of an odd question but:

I recently inherited a nice guitar, and I'm currently shit broke and don't have much to do in my free time. I'd really like to learn to play classical guitar, from the ground up. No real interest in pop/rock/singing/etc., just classical.

If someone were going to go about this, what would you recommend? Is it impossible without a teacher? An intuitive method? Some self-teaching resource? I'm pretty clueless.

>>62006804
that's the kind of stuff you can only afford with disposable income, in other words a stable, decently-paying job.

nobody's going to assume that unless you still live in your parents' house. then it'd be accurate.

>>62006804
You sound a little insecure. And poor.

>>62006858
dude fuck poor people

>>62006838
private lessons are the best way to go about it but it's definitely possible to be an autodidact

either way you NEED some kind of direct feedback. it's easy to start off wrong and develop bad habits. you could probably post videos of your playing here and get that kind of feedback unless your skin is thin as hell.

justinguitar might be a good place to start. can't personally tell you because I started like 12 years ago.

>>62006867
congrats you got money like everyone here, that doesnt make you any less retarded

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>>62004645
Fuck that's an ugly guitar, you need to aspire to a better class of guitar

>pic related
My recent purchase

>>62006858
>>62006850

I live on campus I'm a student

What I said still applies

You startedokaying guita4 because you dreamed of being a rock star, then you gave up, now you're bragging about the "disposable" income you're getting instead

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Does anybody know what guitar that is?

>>62006967
>being a rock star

SO YOU WANNA BE A ROCK SUPASTAR
LIVE LARGE BIG HOUSE 5 CARS

>>62006981
Danelectro hipster model #genericnumber
Just buy the cheapest made in china guitar you can find and it'll be just as enjoyable

>>62006962
>hollow bass
enjoy your horrible tone

what do you think about the fender jaguar? For all intents and purposes, I'm a beginner. I learned guitar years ago and played for a couple years, but stopped playing so I'll be pretty fresh when I pick it back up.
Basically, I want to pick it back up just to jam out some surf guitar and some blues. Basic stuff, really.

>>62006967
stop projecting. a hobby is a hobby.

next you'll tell me every person with a nice car secretly wants to be a Schumacher.

you're clearly upset and/or retarded so stop now and save face.

>>62006987
DON'T TRUST NOBODY GOTTA LOOK OVER YOUR SHOULDER CONSTANTLY

>>62007041
solo bassist detected
sometimes less is more.

>>62006967
Not him, but seriously as >>62007079 said stop projecting.

To me guitar is a cathartic medium to get away of stress and other daily nuisances, it gets the job done. I could very well spend this money in cars, whores or any other hobby but I chose music.

Musicians in this shithole starve themselves, there's no way you can live out of music and have a very good standard of life.

Ironically the people that can afford decent equipment usually has another profession (yes, we are blooze lawyers, engineers). Unfortunately most of them know shit besides Gibson, Fender and Marshall.

>>62007234

>solo bass

kek. not even close. that shit is so fucking stupid

Used to own a hollow bass. They have the unfortunate combination of sounding both thin and muddy. Yeah, it'll suffice in a band mix, but it's far from ideal

>>62007075
I think jaguar H H classic player is a cool guitar, I don't like the single coil ones. It's short scale so I don't dig it for rhythm work, though obviously it can be done. Power chords and lead work sound good. The mustang in particular is nice for the underwound pickups.

>>62007234
>>62007271
I should also note that if you can make it work, that's really cool and I'm glad for you. Hollow basses look awesome

>>62007271
I meant more like not having a band than actually playing solo music. I don't think you should base your opinion on hollow bodies off that one bass, thin tone is definitely not related to a hollow body.

>>62007347
don't judge players by whether or not they're in a band, its elitist and stupid

that being said, I am in fact part of a band and have been for several years

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Remember that one guy who bought one of these and said he'd record it and never did? fuck that guy X'D

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post desired bass guitars

>>62006962
I'm a mechanical engineer. That's my job, that's what I do. Music, guitars, gear...that's my hobby. Never wanted to be a Rock star. Stop being such a shitty human being. That's no way to go through life, for your own sake or others.

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>>62007395
fretless version of this

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>>62007395

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Anyone play a game changer bass or guitar?

>>62006473
Fuck those guys who don't get the "growl" refrence. The answer is no honestly. Jags and mustangs are pretty much the only guitars that get that sound, don't get turned away by the meme status. If you like the sound, go for it. MIJ jags and mustangs are mint. Save for one or an AVRI.

>>62007608
dude I don't get the growl reference but I want to know. Considering mustangs are low output I can't imagine it has to do with breakup. What is the growl in this case?

>>62004621

It's Vica Kerekes

>>62007661
does anyone else really like musicman headstocks?

i don't know why but they're very visually appealing to me. i think it has to do with how straight the strings look, if that makes any sense

>>62007306
a shining beacon of maturity in a sea of edgy tryhard shits

>>62007641
It's the sound that glorious low output makes through a cranked tube amp. It's not really something that can be replicated at lower volumes unless the amp as a separate higher gain channel with an adjustable gain knob. It's also where those out of phase switches come in handy on the mustang in particular. Don't currently own a jag or a mustang anymore but I wish I did for the sake of recording a demo for you.

>>62007463
just get a dimension, jesus

>>62007728
I like the small ones, I don't like the big ones. I like small headstocks in general, there aren't many good examples. 4+2 and 3+1 headstocks seem very logical and comfortable to tune. The highest 2 strings on a inline headstock and the g string on a 3+3 headstock are uncomfortable.

>>62007784
I get it now. Definitely there's some low output strats out there that fit the bill. I think the tone of a shorter scale + heavier strings gives you a better low output tone though, keeps it from getting too thin. You can always put thicker strings on a longer scale but that's no fun.

>>62007800
it's about looks jeez. Obviously I would cut a new pickguard.

>>62007784
>owning an amp with no separate gain knob
vintagefags die out already

Daily reminded that
playing bass with thumb>playing bass with fingers>playing bass with pick

>>62008022
>playing bass with thumb
enjoy having a shitty meme technique your entire life

>>62008022
Playing bass with fingers and thumbs > playing bass with thumb
Unless you're a slap god, using only your thumb will limit you too much on dynamics.

>>62008022
You mean like double thumb like Victor Wooten or Evan Brewer?

>>62007881
Exactly.

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>>62007842
>The highest 2 strings on a inline headstock and the g string on a 3+3 headstock are uncomfortable.

Even when they're ergonomically tilted?

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Anyone play one of these?

>>62007936
I agree however my vox doesn't have a gain channel but I bought it used for dirt cheap. Nothing that a ts808 couldn't fix.

>>62008116
that just looks like the bass is sad

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What do y'all think of this new Orange bass
I can't decide if it's really ugly or decent looking

>>62008076
I mean the way the very first electric bass players played
By pushing their fingers against that black plastic holder thing and playing with the thumb

>>62005987
Yes. rondo music. Their LP copies are the bee's knees, and SX basses are pretty sweet. I own an SX P bass. It sounds just like a P bass should.

Does anyone own an Agile multi scale? I've wanted a fanned fret guitar since I first saw one.

>>62007936
> not having a preamp in front of a vintage amp

>>62008203
they should stick to amplifiers

>>62008212
that's not the way the first bass players played, it's just something some old bass players did. By no means did it come before finger style or picking.

>>62007369
Nobody would play those dinky little pieces of muddy sounding shit if it wasn't for Paul McCartney

>>62008068
You mean like the way abraham laboriel plays?
If that then its hard af, i tried playing like that and its nearly impossible to play without snapping and accenting the notes all over the place unless of course you've been playing like that for a long time

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>>62008121
I wish that had a cab modeler for going straight to headphones with.

>>62008022
ACKSHUALLY
being proficient in all right-hand techniques>>>being a fuccboi who only plays one way

Working on my double thumb tech. I just need to stop biting my damn thumbnail.

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Z. Vex just went full-steampunk lads.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=1QSQ7blDPVQ

>>62008203
they look good except the sunburst

>>62008315
he's a living fucking meme and his pedals are ass

>>62008315
no one gives a shit

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>>62008022
>playing bass with thumb
Hehehe get it?

My own Thumb is coming in the mail today. I'll post pics once I'm done having a 30 minute non-stop full body orgasm

>>62008203
It looks like they didn't whether to go for a vintage or a modern look. It's decent looking with the orange finish though.
But who cares about the look, I want to hear that thing.

>>62008367
is urs fretless?

>>62008367
Kek sorry english isnt my first languge

>>62008411
sigh

>>62008296
Nah I mean just slapping doing big ass slappity slaps with your thumb and flippity flopping your fingers

>>62008367
>slanted pickups
>fretless
>butt ugly tuners
Is there a more memey meme bass?

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>>62007728
I love mine's.

>>62008385
Fretless bass just isn't worth it to me. I can't do a lot of my favorite techniques. Sliding harmonics is cool, I guess. That's it, though.

I'll be posting a YT clip of my new Thumb later today

>>62008367
What are you gonna plug that in?

I've been playing for a few years and I always leave the input cable plugged in that can't be good right? For the signal wire inside?

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>>62007395
Nice shit taste m8
>>62007428
heh, I'm doing a double degree on Naval Architecture and Mechanical Engineering
Feels good to be glorious STEM master race

>>62008471
Kek thats even worse

>>62008022
>being this much of a plebeian cuckold
Stubby Triangle 3.0 4lyf

>>62008532
Unless you have an active instrument then its fine because it can drain the batteries

>>62007784
Said it better than I could've. Sadly my budget only allows for a Squier (and the used market here in Germany has much less Fender). Still, judging by the videos I've seen, it should be alright

>>62005200
Sorry mate but i wouldnt play that ugly thing no matter how many tones it has

>>62008381
https://youtu.be/kCHbt9S9VmY?t=109
Sounds pretty good

>>62008314
You shouldn't be striking with your nail during double thumb familia

>>62008581
>engineering
>not physics or math
Enjoy being an impure living meme

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Moved back to my hometown earlier this year, into a barn converted into a 4-bay auto shop / suite combo. The Jam Wall is beginning to take shape. Post your jam spaces.

>>62009198
Enjoy making science novelties while we make science work
besides
>$300k starting

>>62009198
>implying you're not the meme

let me guess, 100k starting any job you want?

>>62009232
C O M F Y
O
M
F
Y

>>62009255
More like $300k starting
Any job

Get fukd engineering plebs

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>>62009290
>he believes he'll get paid $300k for a job that doesn't consist of moving the world

>>62009290
>he thinks i'm an engineer
god no the world has enough of those

you might make low six figures if you start out as an actuary, but there's a good reason those jobs pay well.

you've been fed horse shit if you think that's actually true though. is this how american degree mills get retards to sign up?

>>62008879
Actually sounds pretty good.

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>>62009290
>engineering
>plebs

>mfw

>>62006024
Just go to a music store with your guitar and try out stuff in your price range. The hallmark of a decent amp is a good clean tone, so try to get a clean sound that satisfies you, and be picky. If something is too thin, too "boxy" or whatever, give it a pass and move on.
That said, people around here have had good results with Roland Cubes, Orange Crushes, Fender Blues Jrs and Vox AC15s.

>>62009180
According to Victor Wooten aka Mr. Double Thumb, you hit the string with the very corner of your thumb on the upstrokes.

>>62009559
I meant thumb NAIL, obviously

>>62008203
don't like it
les paul shape is trash looking and feeling

>>62009559
>>62009559
Yeah, you're supposed to hit it with the corner of your thumb on the upstroke. So both flesh and nail will be hitting the string. Not something you need long nails for.

I'm addicted to nail biting and I'm decent at double thumb

>>62007041
>I have no idea what I'm talking about

What's it like trying to troll while being completely ignorant?

>>62009253
>>62009255
Classic engineers thinking only about money.
> impure

>>62009864
>les paul shape

>>62010003
It's aight
Really though they don't sound good especially in a band mix

>>62007075
Think of a Strat tone but with more treble available. If that's your cup of tea, the Jag is for you. If it's not, you won't like it.

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http://vocaroo.com/i/s16N3jarku29
http://vocaroo.com/i/s1u1A5OBvHNx
Messing around with my new looper and just general noodling. As someone who doesnt really play with other people (yet) and no real plans for recording (yet) this loop pedal is feeling like an amazing investment already. Anyway, how do you guys get out of the pentatonic scale mindframe when soloing? I feel like I'm thinking about it too much and forcing stuff to happen and it just sounds blah, plus the looper is now exposing my awful rhythm lol. I'm assuming this will all just come eventually with practice though. In the mean time I'm having a fucking blast with this thing thanks to whoever on here recommended a looper to me a little while ago

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Don't usually post on this general but I'm an amateur guitarist who wants to also get into playing bass.

What bass should I get to start out with?

>>62010022
>implying you don't believe you'll make $300k starting
>pretending money is unimportant
>pretending purity of a discipline is relevant
Sorry to burst your bubble kiddo. Mixed discipline master race.
Once I finish my engineering degree I'll probably pursue an MD degree.

>>62010140
It depends of many things. What are you interested on playing?

>>62007271
>hollow basses sound like shit
>they sound good in a mix
Pick one
We get it-you didn't like yours. But to say they all sound bad is just asinine, especially when even you admit that it actually sounded alright.

>>62010140
I'd say an active 5 string with 2 soapbar pickups. Think Ibanez, LTD, or whatever

It's a good starting point for figuring out what you like in a bass.
Itll help you answer questions like;
Do you want more strings or less strings? Do you favor the neck pickup, bridge pickup, or both?
Do you use the active EQ, or do you leave it flat and would prefer a passive bass?

>>62009984
I guess I just have to thrash my thumb against the strings until it becomes a solid callus

>>62007578
Most people have

It's called a P Bass, and it completely changed the way popular music is made.
Anything that came afterward is just refinements to the original concept.

>>62008203
I think you should stop shitting up every GG thread with this shit.

>>62010361
So you're saying there's been no substantial development in electric bass guitar design since 1951.

Whats the difference between a 9 and a 2 in a chord?

Does the 9 have to be played an octave higher than the rest of the chord?

>>62010518
Yes. It's an interval.

/gg/uys
I'm trying to get the five positions of the minor pentatonic down and I'm focusing on learning the shapes and how they fit together.right now I decide the key I'm in then visualise the first shape based on the low e root note, then I try to build a picture in my head of how the 2nd and 5th positions appear to the right and left of that and build the scale visually looking at the fretboard. I feel like that's quite a clumsy way of doing things though and although I know in theory that the five positions are representing the five notes on the e string I don't know the notes of the pentatonic in each key so that doesn't help (it takes me a while to work it out) - plus I'm not very quick at identifying which note a fret is on the e string. What should I focus on to help make me better? Also when a position drops off the bottom fret it confuses me too.

>>62010332
Bretty much. That wasn't a fun week for me


>>62010518
Yes. If your root is the 5th fret E string (A), and you play that A with the 2nd fretA string (B), then that B is the 2nd. However, if you play the A with the 9th fret on the D string (also a B, but an octave higher than the first B) it is the 9th

>>62010361
No dude, the Game Changer is the name of a guitar made by Music Man

>>62010088
Start using a metronome or a drum backing track while palying to get your rythm tight

>>62010559
>>62010599
cool beans, thanks for the info

hopefuly ill get good one day

>>62010435
He isn't too wrong though

>>62011138
>active electronics
>fret fanning and multiscales
>extended range

>>62011207
prepare for angry purist bullshit mate

>>62011207
So, memes for the most part. The 5 string was the last big change.

>>62011245
>b-but 6 strings are too hard to play for me so they're shit !

>>62011311
I play guitar and bass, dipshit
>b-but muh high-C and bass melodies

>>62011407
there's a huge difference in muting difficulty mate

although neither are really hard

6 string is niche and I've only seen it work in tech death but there's still nothing inherently wrong with it

>>62011407
Friendly reminder that this is the kind of people you're trying to reason with:
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=12O3fTYoDs0

>>62011407
So you're admitting you're uncomfortable with a 6 string bass because you're too dumb to actually play the bass part ?
Having a higher string doesn't make you instantly a pseudo-bassist, there's plenty of uses for it without going into the dumb soloist domain

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>>62011488
Nice digits

>>62011488
>>62011508
I hope you guys realize nobody actually thinks or repeats any of this shit outside of this echo room

Enjoy being creatively bankrupt

>>62011480
>6 string is niche
nigga you can play anything on a 6 string. You might as well say some bullshit like
>P basses are niche

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>>62011480
>implying muting is a challenge at all
>>62011488
kek, you're right
>>62011508
>So you're admitting you're uncomfortable with a 6 string bass because you're too dumb to actually play the bass part ?
More like the bass part doesn't involve notes above high C at all, so the only use of the 6th string would be reducing my string separation and bragging about how I don't play bass because it has less strings than a guitar
>Having a higher string doesn't make you instantly a pseudo-bassist, there's plenty of uses for it without going into the dumb soloist domain
>m-muh bass chords
fuck off
>>62011557
>I hope you guys realize nobody actually thinks or repeats any of this shit outside of this echo room
pic related
>Enjoy being creatively bankrupt
>implying another string will make you more creative
>who is Mark Sandman
Top kek, you're like those blooze lawyers that think a $6k Les Paul will make them good guitarists
>>62011597
But it is niche. Because it's seldom needed if at all.

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cubebase is fun
https://soundcloud.com/joe-reynold/blues-rock-in-a

>>62011665
>it's useless except for when it is useful
Also you don't have to play with two guitarists and a drummer just because you bought a bass

>>62011597
if you actually use the high string then by all means, play a 6 string. if you don't, I don't see the point in having it unless you literally can only own or carry one instrument with you.

>>62011665
oh boy look at this faggot

>More like the bass part doesn't involve notes above high C at all
in other words, how to out yourself as a complete shitter in 15 words or less

>Top kek, you're like those blooze lawyers that think a $6k Les Paul will make them good guitarists
I think not being a stuck up purist cunt makes you a good musician

literally anything goes if it can be pulled off. this is the only acceptable mentality

>>62011665
>Top kek, you're like those blooze lawyers that think a $6k Les Paul will make them good guitarists
You can get a 7 string bass for 400€, retail price.

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>>62011779
>he thinks not having a higher string limits you
>he thinks basslines should be trebly
>>62011820
price wasn't the point, the point is that just like an expensive guitar doesn't make you a good guitarist, having a lot of strings doesn't make you a good bassist either
>>62011730
>Also you don't have to play with two guitarists and a drummer just because you bought a bass
kek, ERBs confirmed for being the sperglord kid with no friends's instrument

>>62011852
>price wasn't the point, the point is that just like an expensive guitar doesn't make you a good guitarist, having a lot of strings doesn't make you a good bassist either
It doesn't make you worse either

>>62011852
>kek, ERBs confirmed for being the sperglord kid with no friends's instrument
You sure convinced me with your great ad hominem.
I guess every 5 string bassist is a lonely faggot since they're ERB too.

Been playing a few months but I've barely touched lead stuff. I'm getting a hold of scales but still can't really do anything with them (bends, hammer ons)

Should I just keep noodling or should I learn solos from songs and pick them apart?

>>62011852
>he thinks not having a higher string limits you
any kind of instrument has limited range, ultimately.

what limits you is being completely impervious to change. the real problem is your shitty dumb attitude.

>he thinks basslines should be trebly
should? no. can? why not? again, you are needlessly limiting yourself. of all the ways you could gimp yourself as a musician this has to be the dumbest.

>having a lot of strings doesn't make you a good bassist either
at no point did anybody imply this. you are grasping at straws.

>"kek, ERBs confirmed for being the sperglord kid with no friends's instrument"
>opinion warrior
>with waifu avatar
>calling somebody else lonely
allow me to laugh even harder

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>>62011719
>tfw no one enjoys your improv

Oh well, what's got you excited this NAMM anons?
(also not sure on the red on the neck, thinking of sanding it back and making it plain, though fi i do that I'll probably sand away the front of the headstock and stain that red instead like azunyans fender)

>>62003300
WE BREED

LIKE RATS

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>>62011962
>can? why not?
because then it isn't a bassline, dummy
>at no point did anybody imply this. you are grasping at straws.
he implied the only way to not be creatively bankrupt is to play an ERB
>waifu avatar
it's called smug anime, found it googling "smug anime girls". I guess I'll just switch back to pic related since smug anime triggers you. I don't even like anime, to me it's just a trolling tool.
>>calling somebody else lonely
Nice projection.
>>62011907
>It doesn't make you worse either
It actually could, sometimes the very limitations of the instrument are what makes you think in a different way and innovate. Sometimes less is more.
>I guess every 5 string bassist is a lonely faggot since they're ERB too.
That doesn't even deserve an answer, it's extended range but in a direction that isn't covered by the other instruments on the band.

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>>62006740
I bought my Ampeg 810 fir $300 so no, you're getting ripped off

>>62010418
I've never posted that photo or question before
Why do you care anyway, it just creates discussion and prolongs the thread

>>62012280
>It actually could, sometimes the very limitations of the instrument are what makes you think in a different way and innovate. Sometimes less is more.
stop being bad
>That doesn't even deserve an answer, it's extended range but in a direction that isn't covered by the other instruments on the band.
stop playing only with guitars
also keyboards cover the range of both guitars and bass yet are still used with guitar and bass. Same for the piano

>>62007783
>acceptance is maturity
Exactly as engineered.

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>>62012370
>muh jordan ruddess

>>62012280
>because then it isn't a bassline, dummy
yeah I forgot about the universal rule that states a bass guitar can only play basslines and that there's a magic range delimiter

with every post you sound more and more retarded

>he implied the only way to not be creatively bankrupt is to play an ERB
no, I implied you are creatively bankrupt because of your inability to be inventive and use every tool at your disposal.

some people are born innovators. you are an imitator, nothing more.

>Sometimes less is more.
>Sometimes
I'm glad you abandoned stupid ass blanket statements and accepted that context matters

>>62012370
welcome back array-of-switches man

>>62012446
where was jordan ruddess even mentionned ?

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>>62012463
>Sometimes
Sometimes, as "in the case of bass guitar".
>yeah I forgot about the universal rule that states a bass guitar can only play basslines and that there's a magic range delimiter
But who will play the bassline if the bassist neglects his fundamental duty? Bass guitar is the foundation of the band.
>some people are born innovators. you are an imitator, nothing more.
Says the faggot who got a 6 string because John Myung has one

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=O20pbRmZB-M

How do I get this tone?

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>>62012370

>>62012544
Damn, fag body bag is a great idea for a title

>>62012503
it's a double-whammer of ad hominem and guilt-by-association

pretty much the level of discussion you can expect from this board when school time is over for the west coast

it's going to be REALLY shitty in 90 minutes

>>62012530
>Sometimes, as "in the case of bass guitar".
sometimes as in whenever I damn well want to, you obstinate shitty non-musician

>But who will play the bassline if the bassist neglects his fundamental duty? Bass guitar is the foundation of the band.
there is no inherent need for a bassline. you are incapable of thinking outside the context of western rock music.

>Says the faggot who got a 6 string because John Myung has one
I don't own a 6 string and don't plan to

you've got no leg to stand on if you have to resort to guesswork at this point. leave now and save face

>>62012602
>it's going to be REALLY shitty in 90 minutes
R O N D O
O
N
D
O

>>62010140
Pbass or pbass copy

>>62012602
>western rock music
Richard Wagner would like to have a word or two with you

>>62010140
How can you even fret the bottom strings?

what are some good songs to solo to for a while

>>62012926
any rush instrumental piece

>>62012940
learn yyz and impress your normie friends

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>>62012782

>>62013003
actually scratch that, yyz and la villa strangiato are probably too busy to improvise on

leave that thing alone, now that one should do

also this https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=UbkqE4fpvdI

>>62013081
holy shit this is what i wanted thank you

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>>62013081
HAHAHA, GREAT POST!
WELL FAG'D FRIEND!

>>62013268
has it been 90 minutes already?

>>62013312
pls go back to your FA-08 workstation

>>62013419
look I understand keyboardfag is obnoxious as shit but you don't have to be too

http://www.rondomusic.com/electricguitar.html
everyone i talk to says these are incredible quality for the price and are suited to beginners and pros alike
cant wait for my sx to arrive, ive waited too long to learn to shred on an axe!

>>62013559
the best bang for your buck is buying used senpai

>>62013604
not true, buying used you just dont get the quality and fresh instrument you'd get buying a new rondo
thats what i hear

unless you mean a used rondo then yes

>>62013656
This memeing is getting out of hand, anon

abandon thread

>>62013676
>one of the most prestigious guitar companies in the west
>a meme
if you're looking to buy a guitar and are reading this, dont listen to this guy
a giant chunk of professional touring artists and session musicians used rondo products so you know they're trustworthy
why buy used when you can get the industry standard from the start?

This is the worst /gg/ in a while.

>>62013782
joke's on you you're expending more effort writing this than we are being mad

>>62013888
rondo

>>62013455
>implying you aren't synthfag
we can see through your words and ideas

>>62013964
great now there's a fucking witch hunt

because /gg/ needed more shitty memes

>>62013888
I have trascended madness, it's all smiles now. :3

>>62013888
>implying he needs to get you mad to have fun
Giving Rondo memeing a creative spin is fun in itself, I've done it in the past.
Also nice trips, 'mirin (no homo).

>>62014011
I have 8 to spare for all of you motherfuckers

>>62013997
>suggests other instruments aren't needed because of their range being "already covered by piano and keyboards"
>muh 90 minutes
>gets mad when he gets called a fag because of posting that keyboardist HanCOCK
>muh 90 minutes again
>i'm not the synthfag guise, i swear
fuck off

>>62014093
the guy wanted a fucking jam track

why are you mad

there is no reason to be this mad

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I fucked up, didn't I?

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>>62014093
what's the point in piano and keyboards existing if rondo guitars cover their range?

>>62014121
I'm not mad, I just wish you fuck off to /prod/ with your synthfaggotry, Face it, your shitty switched will never replace guitars and drums for every application. They may work well for some genres where it's desirable to sound artificial but that's all there's to it.

>>62014128
DELETE THIS
REEEEEEEEEE

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>>62014168
Fucking this.

>>62014171
> will never replace guitars and drums for every application
>will never
Woah, that's a bold statement. Could I borrow your crystal ball?

>>62014128
at first i found this unfunny
then it made me annoyed
now i find it kinda funny
i guess posting something until it's funny works

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>>62014168
>>62014198

>>62014128
i dont get it

>>62014128
Is this a ruse? What's wrong with that pic?

>>62014171
if I were synthfag i'd be defending keyboards right now

and as it stands I am not

I'm anon, I could literally just change writing and formatting style and you'd never be able to tell

stop rusing me now will you

>>62014261
>and you'd never be able to tell
Link related: http://cryptome.org/2012/07/gent-forum-spies.htm
fuck off roland shill
how much do they pay you to do this?
At least tell me how I can become a shill like you and earn money shitposting

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>>62006473
Become the meme

>>62014303
two dolla a month, U S D

which is fine by me because I'm from zimbabwe

my keyboard is worth more than my entire village but on the flipside I can play the entire rhythm section all by myself during the rain dance ceremony

that is, if I happen to have electricity

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Hi /gg/

What's a good website to buy import guitars? Looking for this one in particular.

>>62014303
roland products are the best value for money on the market and they have so much variety in their range

effects, keyboards, synths, amps
i hear incredible things about them i'll be sure to pick some roland products up soon

friends should I get an 810 or a 215??

>>62014390
get a rondo

>>62006797
Do you think his gun hunger is just overcompensation for draft dodging?

>>62014390
buy a rondo, better than both

>>62014383
holy fuck I was just memeing (including the tinfoil tier link) but it seems like the shilling is real

>>62014462
no you just memed to the point of being counter-memed

you drove us to the very edge man

>>62014449
>draft dodging
http://www.snopes.com/politics/military/nugent.asp

>>62014449
>>62014506
I respect Vietnam draft dodgers

Going off to die in a stupid shitty war is dumb, avoiding that is smart

Americans have fucked up priorities if that's considered a bad thing

>>62014462
>one of the most prestigious music technology companies in the world
>a meme
if you're looking for a new piece of gear please ignore this guy he's trolling. roland products are used all overthe world and are known for being near-perfect at a reasonable price-point
just make sure you dont buy used as there may be a drop in quality make sure you buy new from an official roland dealership

>>62014408
>>62014450
fvck this shyt

Why do LP body shapes make such awful looking basses and ERGs

>>62014535
This.

>>62014566
>roland
I think you mean Rondo, friendo.
One of the finest guitars I've ever had the pleasure to play was an SX Furry in foxy blonde

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Just bought this G400 pro. Did I do good?

>>62014786
>not rondo
fuck off you fucking piece of shit
I FUCKING HATE your BITCH ASS so FUCKING much
REEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEE

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>>62014786
>no batwing pickguard

>>62014804
Can I have a link to what you're recommending my bitch ass?

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>>62014786
I tried one, theyre not as nice as the 2002 Gibbo version my old man used, but theyre by no means bad guitars, you couldve done a lot worse.

>hope you like riffing on baseball bats though

>>62014849
>Implying I didn't travel across the land searching far and wide for that fucking pickgaurd

If only I had the money right now.

>>62014850
>he doesn't know about rondo
laughingwhores.jpg

>>62014709
theres a reason i didnt say guitars anon
everyone in this thread nows rondo guitars are the best bang for your buck and will give you a high quality instrument for years to come

>>62005557
Why go with the Dark if you wanted less gain?

12at7, 12ay7, and 12au7 will have less amplification factor (gain)
60, 40, 20 respectively vs a 12ax7's 100.

>>62013865
Don't worry, the next one will be even worse and you'll soon forget all about this one.

Will a peavey 6505MH be able to do decent cleans?

>>62005557
I have the regular version of this amp and it cleans up decently well. The dark is primarily for the metals

>>62014849
>not knowing that the small pickguard is the superior, A E S T H E T I C option

>>62015139
>small pickguard
>tip

>>62006981
Danelectro Pro

>>62015119
The 5150/6505 has a reputation for having a bad clean channel but honestly, my buddy owns that very same head, and it sounds okay.

>>62014969
>>62015136
I bought it mostly for metal anyway, so I don't mind not really having a clean channel. But I haven't messed around too much with the tonal options of the said amp.
The other reason is that it has an 8 Ohm output, while the regular micro terror has a 4 Ohm output, so I wouldn't have been able to use the cab with it.

>>62015119
It depends on guitar quality
A fender or gibson would give you muddy tones
But a rondo would give you cystal clear cleans upon which you may build a beautiful tone

>>62014506
thanks for this, was mostly baiting

>>62014535
Americans tend to prioritize what other Americans prioritize. So we do a pretty good job of repeating what we're told.

I generally fail to see how bringing many additional riflemen to an area will improve the living situation. There are a number of exceptions. The thing is a lot of the people here either think a terrorist is behind every shrub just waiting to pop out so we need to up our military budget x10 or they are so tumblrized that you could probably shake down their wallet with a nerf gun (this second group has the best beards btw).

getting pol up in geeg

>>62015393
Good thing I own the Limited Edition Agile Septor 10 Strings!

Anyone here have experience with installing a Bigsby?

>>62015433
>thanks for this, was mostly baiting
what if I told you I was just memeing and I don't even listen to nugent?

>>62015330
Good choice then. the AT or AY might be worth a shot. The a 12au7 tube won't distort at all when substituted in most guitar preamps.

It's pretty sweet how much hybrid amps have advanced. enjoy it, shred it

>>62015759
wouldn't care. He's an interesting character whether or not you're a pleb.

>>62015526
sweet axe bro! you'll definately get some great vintage sounding clean tones with that thing then

>>62015941
kek
I've listened to him occasionally and despite the fact I was memeing, I'd love to meet the guy IRL.True 2nd amendment supporters in general are people I like.

>>62015999
The guy's a monster with a bow.
>tfw you will never spend a day turkey hunting and playing shows with the Nuge

>>62003773
1play barracuda, worked for me
2 try, hum.

>>62016130
why even live

>>62016556
>he doesn't hypnotize snakes with his penis while playing music on his guitar

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>>62007428
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>>62010147
>>>/r/engineeringcirclejerk

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>>62016731
>thinks everyone is a ledittor like him
nice projection

>>62016731
Go fuck yourself :3
Also
>knowing subreddits

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>>62016763
dumb frogposter

>>62014370
I see lots of japanese mustangs on ebay.

>>62016800
>engineering undergrad
>dumb
pick one, ledditfag
also take your own advice and go back to le ebin leddit XDDD
>>62016789
kek, he outed himself

>>62016858
>can't even type xDDD correctly
>denies he's dumb
>accuses others of redditfagging

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>>62016880
>enforcing redditspelling
>denying ledditfaggotry
>refusing to call it leddit
>knowing subleddits
>yfw looking at your portrait of ellen pao
gb2 reddit, fag, you're not welcome here

>>62016982
>getting this mad and defensive
>using this many meme arrows
I think the redditor here is you

>i somehow ended up in /sci/

so, um, guitars right?
whats your favorite chord?

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>>62017001
>meme arrows
yeah, redditor confirmed
>mad and defensive
you're the one that got mad at my choice of career, fag
i bet you are in some useless crap like women's studies or something

>>62017017
the power chord, of course
complicated chords are a meme, you can use complicated chords and still sound like shit, or use power chords and sound like a god like dave mustaine does

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>>62012043
I enjoyed it man, it's just blues rock though. Good playin though

>>62010140
Standard 4 string Fender Precision (P bass) or a clone thereof
Cheap, easy to find, available literally EVERYWHERE from EVERYBODY under the sun, simple, and the sound works for literally every style of music.

>>62010435
No, what I'm saying is whatever substantial developments there have been (and there have been many), they pale in comparison to the complete paradigm shift ushered in by the P Bass.
When you play bass, you don't play upright-you play a bass guitar. That's due to the P bass.