/prod/ - ded edition

CHORD

>https://clyp.it/b200i11e
Make me hate myself pls

>>62000886
wat

Hi /prod/ here's my wip inspired by my unealthy consumption of talk talk in the last days
https://clyp.it/xcn34nef

I would really appreciate feedback on it, i'm thinking of recording vocals for it

>>62000996

>Make me hate myself pls
i can't anon
i liked your track it makes me think of that a bit :
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=9hoGMZ1JSfQ

>>62001488
The percussion is really good. Is it midi? Or did you record live drums? I honestly can't tell. If it's midi, what plugin? I use Superior Drummer for acoustic drum sounds but it never sounds quite as good. Also, that part at 2:50 threw me off real fucking bad. I dunno why.

>>Make me hate myself pls
>i can't anon
Thanks, bud. Is there anything you think I can improve on or add?

>>62001731

Addictive drums
I've noticed being a drummer helps
I don't know anything about superior drummer t b h

I'm too tired to think of useful things t b h
Maybe very slightly less reverb on the voice and i was going to say something about the hi-freq of the bass but thinking about it i was wrong

I'll come back tomorrow to see if i find something useful after a good night of sleep

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>>62001942

>t b h

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What are some fun VST's for a beginner producer to start playing around with? I wanna make music like Jai Paul or Frank Ocean if that helps at all. Would appreciate any answer

>>62002819
Massive.

I'm here to answer any questions regarding FL studio.

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Im just, throwing this in here because i don't really know where to turn.. Im going crazy.

Does anyone know where this melody comes from originally? I feel like i've heard it everywhere in background music, in documentaries on the radio etc.

Tempo and timing is wrong but i think you get it.

http://vocaroo.com/i/s0MOWxA6Oh00

>>62002995

the X files

>>62002995
Nintendo

>>62003013
Not the X files. I think i used a stupid patch for this maybe.

>>62002966
Cool I have that downloaded, i have a dumb question

So I make a sound on Massive that I like, and ill make a piano roll pattern with it

If i want a new sound on massive but want to keep the first one, is there a way to do that? Or do I have to open up another Massive channel for each sound?

>>62003040
>do I have to open up another Massive channel for each sound?

Yes.

https://clyp.it/j2uilelr

any mixing tips?

>>62002819
free is best when you are starting to mess around

http://www.kvraudio.com/q.php?search=1&q=&f1[]=vst&pr[]=f&ob[]=dan&lm[]=500

There are 2716 free vsts for you to choose from.

Why am I never at home when these threads get started? I think I'll run home between classes to post something.

I'm trying to become a trap lord

how am I doing

https://clyp.it/foumlwzz

>>62003171
Not great desu

https://clyp.it/mfyg0emh
What i'm working on atm

>>62003525
dig the subbass and vocs

tonight is the night prod

the night i stop procrastinating and finish something

>>62003171
>>62003171
>https://clyp.it/foumlwzz
Oh cool another trapbro. Your kick and 808 bass are clashing too much. It's kinda fucking up the transient. Synth in the drop is pretty compared to the drums too.

I make watertrap lel
>https://clyp.it/uzhew1yt

>>62003118
Sorry, bud. I'll wait for you before I start a new one next time.

>>62003628
I have so many half-completed projects it's not even funny. It's a really bad habit. Actually, you know what? I know it's a little late but I'm gonna make that my New Year's resolution; to actually finish shit. I'm gonna fail immediately.

>>62003657
>>https://clyp.it/uzhew1yt
wavy... although the snare needs help.

me:
>>62003099

>>62003657
i swear for a split fuckin second when I heard that seagull I was expecting that spongebob trap song from youtube
that being said, this type of shit is my... well... shit. really diggin that sound, familia

>>62003752
>wavy... although the snare needs help.
Are you talking about the acoustic snare or the 808 snare? I know the acoustic one needs help; I suck at mixing acoustic drums.

As far as your track goes, the mixing is actually great. The ONLY thing I can think to suggest is to widen it up a little more. It kinda sounds too down-the-middle. Pan those hihats hard left and hard right instead of just a little to the side like you have them. I wanna see how it sounds, if you don't mind posting it.

>>62003786
Thanks, man. I appreciate that. I got a WIP that I'm pretty excited about if you wanna hear it.

>>62003890
lay it on me
I may not be able to give a super helpful critique, though. I'm one of those 'play by ear' type of guys, aka, I have no idea what I'm doing

>>62003953
>https://clyp.it/sn332q0i
Any critique is helpful, man.

w-what do you think, /mu/? What did you like and what did you dislike about the track?

https://clyp.it/dyctpxki

https://clyp.it/mcwblgkq
Is the bass pathetic? y/n?
I tried laying a sub underneath. Awful. I should probably transpose, but I'm not sure if either of the patch or the melody is really any good in the first place. The porta's probably too much.

Should I just cut past the intro and try something else? I do think the intro's pretty cool in a VHS kinda way (if too long), but the rest is just...I guess?

>>62001488
I think I don't like the reverb on this. No, I'm pretty sure I don't, but I'm not sure if that's all. The drums are awesome in some places (I really like 2:50+), but in the sparse parts it feels fake even when your patterns are cool. Maybe lay back on the cowbell just a bit, also.
>>62001488
I definitely think the bass leaks too far into the vocals sometimes, especially thanks to the bitcrusher or what it is. On the flip side, I really like the really digital or kinda glitchy percs in the back so you probably do want some of that on the bass. I'd probably turn the vocals down a little.

>>62000996
I'm not really feeling the vocals. Maybe you should get someone else to sing?
Also, check out /r/outrun.

>>62001488
Drop the cowbell.

>>62002995
Like the other anon said, it reminds me of something from the Wii.

>>62003099
How did you make the synth that pops up at 0:49? It sounds good, but the chord progression on it sounds sort of cheesy and pop-y. Also, if you want really good sounding drums, program them yourself instead of using breakbeats.

>>62003525
I would drop the banjo and the vocal sample, otherwise it sounds great.

>>62004007
The low end is fine. You're not making club hits, so the bass isn't supposed to pop out your eardrums.

Keep up the good work /mu/. Remember that each and every one of you have the potential to make great music.

>>62003993
would like to hear a little more of that percussion in the mix, bruh. But I'm a whore for hats.
still diggin it though. me likey

>>62004007
I'm assuming the second reply was for >>62000996
It's still a WIP so the mixing isn't final. I just bothered to make it tolerable to listen to. Mainly just looking for you guys' thoughts on the structuring and concept and whatnot.

>>62004053
I just found the vocals on some random guy's soundcloud. He apparently recorded them on his phone. Do you not like his voice or the quality of the recording?

>>62004064
You mean like, turn them up? Or add more?

https://clyp.it/kexqwbhf

Let's play a game /prod/.

I've posted another track in this thread. Can anyone guess what track is mine based on this track?

>>62004007
I think the mix doesn't quite fit. Some of the parts sound more or less natural than the others which can be cool, but the unnatural parts don't match the other unnatural parts. Could be a matter of levels, compression and reverb, but I don't think that's all.
Honestly though, I just skipped around because I found it really boring. It's not my style though so maybe don't panic.

>>62004007
>>62004120
Shit, forgot to comment on your track. What exactly are you wanting to do with the bass? Give it more presence or what?

>>62004004
I'm a sucker for simple sine waves so I like that synth. Don't really like the percussion.

>>62004120
I take back what I said about the hats. for some reason they were coming out super low on my end
fixed it. sounds good m8.

>>62004121
Oh, whooops, meant for
>>62004004
Also, >>62004121 sounds about the same kind of boring to me so that's my guess.

Good midi-keyboards?

I'd like a decent amount of keys.

Every clip I've listened to in this thread is utter garbage, you should all be ashamed. Maybe your music could be used to torture ISIS prisoners

>>62004120
His voice

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>>62005061

>>62005061
Lol fuck off no one asked you anything

>>62005061

Post your music mane

>tfw no $20 cimpressor
I hate people who leave their ads up and don't even bother to email you back to say it sold already

>>62005061
Every shit post I've read in this thread is utter garbage, you should all be ashamed. Maybe your post could be used to torture ISIS prisoners

>>62004945
I have the alesis qx49
its cheap and does the job very well
I'd imagine you wouldn't like it if you were a piano player though, the keys aren't trash but they're nowhere near real piano keys of course.
It also has some knobs and stuff which is really useful for recording automations.

What's the reason people bounce stuff?
Is it just to save processing power and/or do editing that can only be done when saved, like time stretching etc.?
or are there other reasons as well?

>>62004945
I used to have an M-Audio Oxygen 49 that was pretty good considering the price. Sold it for drug money though. Regret it.

:(

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Anyone here know this album?

It's full from start to finish of amazing interesting synth sounds that seem impossible to reproduce.
Does anyone have an idea what kind of synths were used here or how to reproduce these kinds of sounds? It's like the kind of synths you used to hear in crime documentaries back in the 80s

>>62005924
One of my favourite uses for it is chopping up the loop I have going

>>62006213

>2 and a half hour album

I'll have to check this out in bits and pieces, but I'm liking it so far

>>62003040
Do yourself a favor and read the manual for your DAW.

>>62006393
That almost sounds like you never heard of it even though it's pretty much /mu/core

>>62006418

I've heard of Swans but I've never really checked out their music other than there was one song that was

>LUNACY
>LUNACY
>LUNACY

and I trouble taking it seriously because it made me giggle

Is anyone else having issues with plugins in FL12?

Some of my vsts keep crashing and even some inbuilt plugins like the fruity phaser are crashing when selecting presets.

I don't know how to solve this any help would be greatly appreciated!

>>62006820
No, but I've heard of other people having it.
Have you updated to the latest version?

Check in the forums for an answer and if you can't find one, make a thread.

>inb4 pirated

Having major issues with pirated maschine 2 software, plug ins not being installed correctly, cant figure out where i am fucking up. Some install properly.

>>62006873

>pirated

Maybe there is your problem

>>62006898
my budget only allows to buy used hardware
>inb4 poorfag

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trying this again...

should i just give up?

https://clyp.it/ggx4ptki

>>62006982
Depends. How close is this to your vision?
I like it quite a lot. Would be nice if you would sample some vocal bits from different songs on top of it to form lyrics, like burial does.

>>62006982
i like this quite a lot. best i've heard on here, you have a soundcloud?

>>62006982

Pretty gud m8

>>62007005
pretty far off from my vision, actually. I think i'm having a hard time with how it's arranged, i don't know.

also, i foolishly kept my tracks at a low volume and made up for it by boosting everything on the master, which has made it nearly impossible to make slight edits without drastically throwing off the mix.

But the vocal bits to form lyrics is a really good idea. that's given me some needed inspiration, thanks!

>>62007039
>>62007121
thanks
https://soundcloud.com/tr34tm3nt
but it's mostly old and unfinished stuff

none of us r gonna make it

we all suck

i wanna die

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>>62007767

Not with that attitude m8

>>62007767
-___-
i'm actually pretty okay.

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>tfw can make 10 second loops but can't turn them into full songs

>>62007767
fuck u guy

>>62007816
I can help you.

why don't you make me a sequence of 4 10 second loops, so 32 bars?

>>62007699
your hihats need work in séance, maybe bring them higher in the mix, give them more room where they naturally peak. they sound tinny and distant, they should be present and surrounding.

your song lacks spacial qualities, you need to pan more and widen things, keep your basses and vocals in the center though, you can pan the vox back and forth for effect.

other than that, great job, you're doing good work and I hope I can hear your track with some of the improvements I recommended. :^)

>>62007816
try remaking a couple other peoples tracks. That will give you some perspective on when and how to alter the 10 second loops you make.

>>62007856
This.
It's the first step to making a full song.

>>62007816
What type of music do you make? DJ Clent makes dense loops then just mixes it.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=FkvuvGFHThQ

>>62007980
I've been firing from the hip on a lot of the mix decisions because i just don't know many techniques and rarely get feedback on that stuff. So thank you for the input, it's much appreciated.

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>>62008633
No problem man! I'm gonna show you an infographic for mixing, it helps seat your instruments in the right areas. My mixes are very tight, yours will be too!

idk who thought to save this image as a jpeg on the server. -___-

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This is a production of mine, the time register on FL studio said 57 minutes at the time of export.
I'm not trying to show off, but if you mix as you go, you really can do some great stuff and just jam. Also, comments and criticism, are always welcome.
https://clyp.it/250p5mny

>>62000996
Did you use that SQ8L vst?

>>62007767
I make a living off music. I'm probably never going to be popular, but as long as I can afford to pay the bills and buy synths, it's not so bad.

>>62009127
>I make a living off music
your music, or working on other people's music?
either way that is great!

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how is this for a first ever tune
https://clyp.it/bxrnbvfh

>>62006213
So, can anyone help me with this family?
There must be some hardware synths in here who recognize the sounds

>>62009127
tfw I make shitty pop music that makes other people famous.
at least the money is good.

>>62009075
Actually, yeah. Is it that obvious?

>>62009174
try taking a clyp of the specific sound you want to know about, I'm not sitting through an hour of music trying to figure out which synth you were talking about. find me a 16 second clyp, and ill listen to it.

>>62009169
not bad, learn what sidechain and compression are, and maybe EQ placement, my post above >>62008748 can help you with that.

>>62009245
thank you so much!

>>62009169
i suggest you learn what a musical scale is. Right now you are playing a lot of out of key notes. a good rule of thumb for a beginner is to only use 7 of the 12 available notes on a keyboard for each song.

>>62009161
My music on other people's projects.

>>62009322
this is probably the best tip any beginner can receive. that and probably the EQ photo.
>>62009259
you're welcome pal, the other anon has a valid point about scales. also check out my clyp, with the photo to see how I made it. >>62008802

>>62008748
damn, that image is super helpful! Thank you!

https://clyp.it/egpuctr0

I am aiming on making Freeform Hardcore, but I don't know if it sounds like UK Hardcore.

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>>62005061
FUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUCK YOUUUUUU CUUUUUUUUUUUUNT

>>62009358
>>62009322
i have learned in music school and those notes are intentional. I do know quite a bit about chords, progressions, scales and so on, but im just now getting used to ableton and working with a DAW

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>>62009575
:^) that was so good and so bad at the same time. don't be upset please, but you lack the melodic qualities associated with hardcore, the straight minute of D# over and over and over again.

your sound design was phenomenal, definitely shits on a lot of hardcore with its clarity and presence, so good job there.

your low end is lacking, cut below 30hz, and maybe cut the bass on all of your low end and glue in a sub bass?

if you don't know how to EQ there is a pretty handy image up above.

>>62009536
hey, you're super welcome :^)

>>62003099
compress the bass man

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>>62009605
not to be a douche. but your drums are out of tune, and so is your noise. if you're being jazzy and avant garde with your notes, that's cool, but your track in general is way out of tune.
plus, people don't usually do out of scale melodies like that, its usually only for chords, it sounds out of place and wrong when you've done it here, and not in a good way.
Tune yer drums to be in harmony or intentional contrast with your melody and rhythm. But tune them.

>>62009668
The song is in G# Major. I know that all Hardcore songs (besides gabber) are in major.

But could you teach me more about hardcore melodies? I'm still in the process of learning Music Theory.

>>62003099
blah, that bass, see the infographic on mixing.
DONT compress it. maybe take out that huge pitch bend and glide, that's kinda causing weirdness. tune yer drums.

What is it with beginners and being out of tune and key?

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>>62009758
I'm not a hardcore guy myself, but I do know that you wanna do like 4 on the floor, have a note repeat three times, then jump two intervals 1 octave up or down, like most basic trance things. the melody is made with those changed notes at the end. you can place them any where. but the gist is have repeating notes.
I can make you an example but i really don't want to, look on youtube.
pic related is as close as I get to hardcore.

>>62009245
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=wrOCteaZfns

Starting 19:29 for example until the brass comes in

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>>62009909
Basically, it is like this?

>>62010202
yeah, that's one of them. that's not a very good one tho :P

drop it 3 octaves, set it to monophonic with a 1/4 glide and see what happens... :^)

>>62010125
do your own synth homework, I'm not gonna tell you how to make a string patch.

if you must know tho, that beating is an LFO on the fine pitch of 2 oscs.

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>>62000748
this is my first post here, but I hope I can get some good tips out of this board:
https://clyp.it/lq2izxt2

>>62010292
>tell me and i'll help you
>lol do it on your own

Fuck you dude.
I know how to make a simple string patch but this isn't a simple synth patch

>>62010373
>https://clyp.it/lq2izxt2
turn restart off on your LFO.
and don't use premade beat loops. other than that, you just need to place the mix more, refer to the EQ infographic above.

>>62010434
>if you must know tho, that beating is an LFO on the fine pitch of 2 oscs

it is a simple string patch you whiny shit. it transforms between string and brass, that's something that's pretty easy to do on most synth. anything else you wanna be spoonfed? if you meant a different sound, why don't you upload a 16 second clyp, like I had originally asked for.

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Are there any good tutorial series for Ableton Live on youtube? The only series i found is from a channel called SadowickProduction but the dude fucking sucks at teaching and explaining.

How did you guys learn to use your DAWs?
Just trial and error? I always get frustrated really fast because i can't achieve the sound that i hear in my head when i make stuff, so i stop and feel depressed.

Also since i came from recording audio only (Guitars, Pianos) the whole thing with the grid and how all your shit is locked to your current BPM really feels limiting to me and i don't know how to turn everything off that allows me to just work freely. Like when i slightly change the BPM it also automatically changes all my midi signals and what not.

>>62010514
Because that would require me to insert 4 different songs into abletons sampler, cut them up to the parts i want and export it and that would take like 15 minutes. I don't expect you to be of much help though so i won't waste my time doing it.

>>62010292
Is this better?

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>>62010609

>>62003525

Lil update: https://clyp.it/tokbfqec

>>62010519
illgates put out a video series on making music, the art of production I think its called, its very general, but he does do it in ableton.
>>62010551
if you're too lazy/don't know an easy way how to do it then I don't think production is for you.

>>62010635
I was only joking m80, the sound I was telling you to make would produce a dubstep wobble. very far off from hard core. what you have there is really good though, if you set the bass notes to a different synth it would be spot on.

>>62010721
key changes why? make more room for that bass, but otherwise, I really like.

>>62010812
The intro in the first version gonna be a bridge in the new version.. I changed up the keys to make it a bit more rap friendly, And i'll get to making some room for the bass. Thanks

>>62010871
remember, cut, don't boost.

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>>62010519
>whole thing with the grid and how all your shit is locked to your current BPM really feels limiting to me and i don't know how to turn everything off that allows me to just work freely. Like when i slightly change the BPM it also automatically changes all my midi signals and what not.

This is a problem I also have, I have yet to figure out how the whole bpm system works with ableton. The most I got was automation in arrangement mode.

I have a bunch of audio effect tutorials on my hard drive at home, I can throw them up on mega for you later. They're good quality from Udemy. I pulled them from a torrent not sure if they're available on youtube.

>>62010812
>I was only joking m80
Yeah I know, when you said put it on 1/4/ glide I was confused.

I already have the bass synth though.

>>62010519
I learned about DAWs in general by starting with Cubase and Garageband t b h

for ableton, DJ Vespers (sp?) has tons of good tutorials

>>62010812
>If you don't know how to use a DAW the moment you pick it up i don't think production is for you

I wish you would just fuck off you hostile piece of shit.

>>62010970
Would appreciate it senpai

>>62011559
Explain this to me please, you came in, asked for help, asked what it was, I told you, then you got upset with me.... if you look at my other posts you'll notice I'm actually helping people who want to be helped. but I'm not spoon feeding anyone, they wont learn that way.

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how do i make the drums sound more /burial/

https://clyp.it/a4si4kkq

>>62011685
make a 100% wet delay, bit crush it, then layer it on top of your drums. its how you make that thunder crack drum delay.

>>62011685
throw you drums samples in soundforge and sequence them in there

>>62012073
>not just playing the samples by hand with your midi controller

>>62012367
Nah, /burial/ doesn't do it like that

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>>62012073
Burial claims he makes all his music in SoundForge. Is that even possible? I'm pretty sure he's bullshitting

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https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=3b1xJYCrKDU

What the fuck is going on?

>>62012412
Yeah he just places his samples on the grid manually, but why would one need Soundforge for that. Besides, does anyone here actually sequence their drums? I also place them freely because i always feel like sequenced music feels "on rails". Might just be placebo, anyways i like slight imperfections

I want this to sound a bit "weird" for lack of a better word, but in a good way. Not sure if I like how it sounds right now, but I like how it sounds in my head, if that makes sense. I have to stop working on stuff for the day so just gonna drop the wip clip here. Any advice to make it sound better would be much appreciated. I've only been producing for like a month by the way

https://clyp.it/xsdsznng

also I know that last bit sounds shit

>>62012469
It's possible.

>>62012500
Funny how my dad sent me this video and asked me the same thing couple of days ago.

>>62012515
Sequence but swinginess manually by editing on the actual sequencer.

>>62012469
I've actually never heard of Burial making that claim, I have read a four tet article somewhere and four tet was saying that Burial made all of his music by manually placing stuff on soundforge and sequencing by ear pretty much... he probably makes a bunch of sounds in other software and sequences in soundforge, idk

https://clyp.it/gq5f45d2

Working on a practice mix. Feedback for learning guy appreciated!

>>62012073
i sequenced those drums off grid already

>>62012692
he uses peak
>>62012500
all of the instruments accept the midi signal, the foot pedals control the volume on them.
>>62012515
serious producers will do both, as they are needed.

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any tips on how to get started with max/msp?
is it worth my time? all i really know is that Tim Hecker uses it .

>>62012841
not off grid enough

>>62012570
>Sequence but swinginess manually by editing on the actual sequencer.

Idk, sounds more time consuming than just placing shit freely

>>62012692
There's an interview in which he talks about how he learned to use soundforge and kept using "that shitty program" (his words) and how he places his percussion in a way it results in a nice fishbone

>>62012549
>https://clyp.it/xsdsznng
what is your intention? because there's no clear direction here.
>>62012837
do your own homework.
if its not for class.
then you need to bring up the volume, by a lot, make it so the highest peak tickles 0db.

>>62012921
Yeah I know, but you have absolute control over the swing.

>>62012837
if you're aren't seeing red lights then your mix is carp

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>mfw still trying to figure out James Blakes Unluck synths

I'm pretty sure i have the envelope and LFO down but i just can't get rid of the fuzz without cutting off too much into the frequency

Someone kill me already

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>>62013052
>your mix is carp

>>62012945
I don't have any classes, I'm just a guy with a computer learning by himself. I haven't made the track loud it, and at normalized volume, this is as high as it gets for the time being. There are a lot of transients going on here, but thanks anyways.

>>62013076
kbd tracking

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>mfw i bought a midi contoller with aftertouch
>mfw there's literally no VSTs on the market that support aftertouch
>not even fucking Omnisphere

I feel like a fucking cuck now

>>62013274
rip

>>62013274
you deserve it for spouting memes

>>62013335
cuckolding isn't a meme, it's a lifestyle famm.

>>62013274
after touch is mostly utilized on hardware synths, not soft synths

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HELP PLS

>Ableton
>have an arpeggio triggering samples from a drumrack
>when I trigger the sequence, it sounds like I want i
>when I arm and hit record, all the program records are the individual notes

I can't fucking record any audio/resampling, the second I hit the record button all I get are the non-arpeggiated notes

help

>>62013274
Renoise supports it btw

>>62013478
I know that a lot of Hardware Synths have it. In fact my Prophet '08 has it, and that's also the reason i thought it would be a good idea to buy a midi controller that also supports it.

>>62013496
put your arp on it's own midi track, play your keyboard on that track, then route the midi from that track into your drum rack track (and record on that one).

transient master is the worst fucking trip he should shut the fuck up :D :P :P
he uses that shit unironically and is a faggot

>>62013695
i actually disagree

/prod/ has been all shitposting recently... his comments have been somewhat helpful and refreshing, even if they come off a little narrow minded

Whenever i change notes with Abletons Arp, instead of continuing the Arp it starts over unless i hit the notes with +/- 5 ms accuracy. Isn't there an easier way to play with Arp? It shouldn't take this much precision to change keys without having it fuck up

>>62013806
>continuing the arp
what do you mean by this?

>>62013806
Not that guy but god I need to change to FL Studio so bad, its arp is sooooo amazing.

so after years and years of producing dance music and various subgenres, I'm finally getting into hip hop because I hear a lot about "great producers"... but to me hip hop beats are so incredibly simple sounding... Is hip hop just held to a lower standard than electronic music or am I missing something

>>62013873
Well normally the arpeggiator plays a succession of multiple notes, (or the same note) based on how you programm it, in a set rhythm, and it continues on this way

Let me illustrate what it normally looks like

1___2___3___4___1___2___3___4

Now this is what it looks like when i change notes while playing the Arp if i don't hit them with milliseconds of accuracy

1___2___3___4__1___2___3___4

I hope that makes it easier to understand

>>62013695
"this guy who comes in and helps us for literally no reason is such a piece of shit, I wish he would die"
>>62013766
this is pretty much why I never come in here, its a whole bunch of entitled assholes who don't know anything about their craft and expect results with out effort. thanks though, I appreciate that at least some one sees it as useful. whats narrow minded about it tho? there really is no right way to do music, but there are conformities that cant be ignored... staying in tune is one of them.

>>62014190
im going to fuck up your boipuccy, help them without a trip you piece of shit, you make yourself sound too fedorish, i apreciatte the shit you do for them but stop using a trip

>>62014132
That's one of the hardest parts about hip hop though, making something good without over complicating it

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>>62014188
turn "restart" off on your arp.
I get what you're saying, you want it to truncate the notes so the remainder stays before it restarts. simply disable restart.

>retrigger
>beat
what you have set to
>note
no
>off
This one!

>>62014219
People still sperg out about trips? I what year is it? lol

>>62014190
>this guy who comes in and helps us for literally no reason
You were fine until you said this. Goddamn smug douche is what you are.

Drop trip and lurk moar.

>>62014258
hmm, never thought about that

>>62014305
>this

>>62014305
so I should leave and let you stay shitty?
I use this trip in this general only, and related threads, so that people will realize "oh its TM, he's not trolling, this guy is actually helpful"
I wont help people with their homework, and I wont spoonfeed them patches or presets.
I can be a smug douche all I want. you lurk moar, ive been around, you apparently haven't.

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>>62014376
>I know, I'll call him a newfag
No seriously, drop trip and lurk moar

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>>62014132
>great producers
kek, who the fuck said this?

>>62014411
What's an artist song?

>>62014190
>assholes who don't know anything

every time man and then there will be some bad advice said and people pay attention to it

its not worth coming here and helping people

its better to just let them do what they will and focus on you

>>62014409
>I know, i'll point out that he called me a newfag, even though I called him a newfag first!

have you helped anyone today?
made music?
ive done both. you've sat here and complained that I'm doing it while being identifiable. oooo, scary.

>>62014454
It's a doggy dog world

>>62014489
you're embarassing yourself

>>62013274
if you use ableton you can go to clip view and automate aftertouch and footpedal and the other CC options

in cubase you can do it also with vst expression even on single notes

i dont have aftertouch on my keyboard so thats how i do it

>>62014497
He isn't really though

>>62013076
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=uoD2URJ6NJk

I know this isn't the same synth or song, but it's something..

>>62014454
i'm not worried about it, some people make their tunes and refuse advice, when they come and see people improving (by way of advice) it bothers them, he's just using tripcode culture to attack me, not realizing I'm using the tripcode pretty much in line with how they're used on this site, one thread only.
>>62014497
no I'm not.
>>62014519
I kind of am, I posted a picture of myself in a fedora... but not because of what that other anon is saying.


Anyone else have questions or clyps?

>>62014411
>>62014132
>>62014258
>>62014316
the real 'great producers' in hip hop are the ones behind the scenes, fixing up the demo-teir trash that get sent to them.

btw, these people also are the same producers and mix engineers that work on Top 40 pop, country, and edm.

So what's the best way to tame the transients in my mix, anyways, TransientMaster? They really contribute with some great punch in my mix, but nobody likes to turn the volume knob to accomodate for low overall levels in a playlist.

>>62014489
I manage a piano lab at a university. It's quiet on Mondays, so no I haven't helped anybody today.

I also haven't mentioned it a half dozen times to talk about how great I am.

>>62014580
pharrell, timbaland, flo-rida, to name a few. All master tier producers, who work on multiple genres, and have separate public personas.

>>62014441
soul sample

>>62000748
I'm looking to build a new PC solely for production.

A tower with a capable and appropriate processor, a focusright external soundcard, some graphics capable of duel screens (not really necessary though).

I've never really built a PC before but I have friends who will help me so that is fine, however I don't know where/what to begin looking at when considering what parts to purchase.

I've heard of bundles where you can purchase purpose built boxes of parts that assemble to a PC, also in the bundle being the external soundcard AND monitor speakers.

Could anyone point me in the right direction in terms of places to look for these sorts of deals/bundles or if not could anyone point me towards appropriate hardware names/models?

>tl;dr
>help me build a dedicated /prod/ pc pls

>>62014604
ni transient master probably

>>62014190
>whats narrow minded about it tho?
not meaning to nitpick, but you know as well as i do that "remember, cut, don't boost." is subjective.

>>62014654
But then the punch dissappears.

>>62014651
i have a shitty "gaming" prebuilt i got as a gift and it works fine even though it has a shitty amd fx 6300 cpu

get any cpu better than that and youll be good to go

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>>62014651
just buy a mac pro

>>62014604
literally cut them my friend. bounce the track and if they're low enough use a limiter, if they're far enough use a beat slicer.
or take it into soundforge and burial it up with the razor tool.
alternatively go buy Transient Master from NI.

>>62014611
>I also haven't mentioned it a half dozen times to talk about how great I am.
where have I done this?
all ive said is that I'm pretty ok.
>>62014654
this.
>>62014651
I have 32gb of Kingston ram, an SSD for my boot and 2 striped (that's important) 2tbs drives for 4tb of storage, with a 4tb bookshelf drive as a back up. Intel i7 4770. sound cards are a meme in 2016. graphics card you should go sapphire amd r7 240, its made for multi screen only, no games, and it has no fan, so its silent.
>>62014699
set it properly.
>>62014733
should work just fine
>>62014693
no, there is nothing subjective about cutting frequencies to make room in a mix rather than boosting them. remember, to make room, not add volume... you don't make space by making things bigger.

>>62014785
It's literally in the post I replied too. Don't blame me if you're too thick to notice your posts implying how you're superior because you "help people".

I'm seriously just suggesting you stop doing that, and only that.

>>62014785
>literally cut them my friend. bounce the track and if they're low enough use a limiter, if they're far enough use a beat slicer.
>or take it into soundforge and burial it up with the razor tool.
>alternatively go buy Transient Master from NI.
I will do this after I've tried the saturation trick I saw on mixbusTV on Youtube.

>>62014785
>no, there is nothing subjective about cutting frequencies to make room in a mix rather than boosting them. remember, to make room, not add volume... you don't make space by making things bigger.
okay, maybe you don't realize how narrow minded this is after all. NEW FLASH: this has been a great debate for decades. Some boost, some cut, all depending on the situation. It's literally as common as LPF everything vs HPF everything.

>>62014870
i see people boost in the mid frequencies often with nice results

>>62014870
>LPF everything

>engineer: what kind of mix do you want?
>him: I like mud

>>62014755
no thanks

>>62014733
i dont have the money to be buying premades when i can build my own fine

>>62014785
why do you say they are a meme?

the music i make requires a lot of vsts added in layers to acheive proper sounds and i need to be able to do this without freezing and exporting so all the power (for a relative price) i can is my goal.

>https://clyp.it/qrk45043

>>62014856
>>this guy who comes in and helps us for literally no reason
no really, how is that conceited? you need to start quoting me and not making things up anon. Its very disheartening.

>>62014870
theres no debate to it, you wanna sound good and pro, you cut not boost. why hpf vs lpf? use bandpass which is both.
if you're making room in the mix, you cut, not boost. that's all I said, and i'll stand by it, since its correct.

if you need to boost for some reason, go ahead, but not to make room in a mix.

>>62014946
>i dont have the money to be buying premades when i can build my own fine

well i didnt tell you to buy a prebuilt i got one as a gift and said it worked fine

maybe you should go fuck yourself

your clyp fucking sucks also

>>62014626
Flo-rida has a team 20 deep
so does Timbaland. As well as Kanye. And they still go through the Label's standard teams.

Pharrell and Dre are master-tier tho. But that's about it for that entire genre.

>>62015002
>theres no debate to it
not narrow minded at all

>>62015007
lol wow get back in the pram

the advise you gave was nearly useless lol

>>62015002
>have you helped anyone today?
>made music?
>ive done both. you've sat here and complained that I'm doing it while being identifiable
You did it here too. You can act like you're not being a smug ass all you want, that doesn't change your posts.

I'm being 100% sincere man, just cut out the smugness and we're cool. we're all equals here

>>62014946
a sound card isn't going to give you more processing power, if anything itlll only bring down latency, but you need a good computer to start with. I have an e-mu 1820m and a delta 66. I honestly cant use either because i don't have PCI ports on this computer (huge oversight, I'm retarded, I know)

great track btw.

>>62015051
m8 there is not a case of narrowmindedness or not

you dont
>make room
by boosting

>>62015061
whatever kid

i told you get a cpu better than mine and youll be good

and its true

youre the one who read that and got "buy a prebuilt" out of it


kill yourself

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hi :P
here im playing on my synth :D
:D
:P
just playing ;3
i can help you ;d

>>62015062
>>62015093
if this is your whole general I'm going back to /g/
I come here once every 6 months and its always the same.

I'm sorry for you who are actually looking for advice :/

>>62015092
don't say it man, he'll call you narrow minded too.

>>62015155
can you give me advice on being a smug nmother fucker
also any autofelatio advice would be nice

>>62015155
>going back to /g/
Please do.

>>62015171
first you start by being considerably better than your peers. then you go into a thread and offer them advice, after they get upset about constructive criticism, that's when you drop them bomb.
>you're not good enough to understand anyways
works every time.
>also any autofelatio advice would be nice
I'm too fat for that, my gf handles nicely though.

but really, don't take advantage of free help, its useless anyways, right?

>>62015239
bro pls stop

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What's a good VST synth for pads?
I'm into detroit and dub techno, with some early electronica thrown in. Not really looking to complicate too much. I guess I can get the ~warmth~ out of effects, but if the oscillators sounded nice, that'd be a priority.

>>62015239
>but really, don't take advantage of free help, its useless anyways, right?
Jesus, is this like your entire bit? Egg everyone on and complain about how nobody wants free help? Stick around, most people ITT do that all of the time without mentioning it.

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>>62015239
>first you start by being considerably better than your peers
>https://clyp.it/250p5mny

>>62015062
he has helped me desu

he hasnt rly said anything to trigger you all hes said is that you make headroom but cutting, not boosting. and that is objectively true lol, if you are boosting - you are NOT making headroom you're doing something else

>>62015093
>get any computer better than my shitty fx 6300 cpu

is what you said to me, i got out of it that your advise was useless. i replied, with that i dont intend to buy anything prebuilt.

stay calm luls

>>62015090
if that is the case then why do people i know making drum and bass having releases *always* insist on a focusright soundcard. i guess they do use external stuff and the XLR etc but SURELY there is some positive impact from having one?

right now I am running a laptop without a soundcard at all in comparison but an i7. i dont really know what relatively powerful or weak in for audio production that is.

>>62015259
>maximum damage control

>>62015288
I never said he didn't. I just think he should stop acting like its some great service to us, since that's how these threads operate anyways.

>>62015274
yeah, it is, I'm literally only here to offer help. If you don't want help, filter my trip.
>>62015270
FM8 is really good, sytrus, harmor. any FM synth really.
>>62015259
k

>>62015326
or everyone could stop shitposting abuse towards his advise because it contradicts what they always consider to be true, even though they arnt even actually addressing his comments properly and specifically.

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>at a party
>see mally mall
>go up and introduce myself, tell him he's a great producer, shake hands
>didn't realize he wasn't marley marl
>mfw

>>62015371
I think you're replying to the wrong guy. I didn't say shit about cutting and boosting.

https://clyp.it/250p5mny
what do you think about this clypp?
i made it because im much better than you guys and i know actually zero theory

>>62015288
they swear by focusrite because its the best interface there is, and it cuts down latency.
read this article from 1999
>http://www.soundonsound.com/sos/apr99/articles/letency.htm
>>62015371
this
>>62015326
no its not how these threads operate, a few people post clyps and don't listen to others, and no one gives advice, because they're all seeking it.

>>62015331
Is your name Jorman by chance?

>>62014926
>>62015002
Joe Barresi uses the LPF everything method (Kyuss, The Melvins, Tool, Queens of the Stone Age, Coheed and Cambria, Bad Religion, Wolfmother...)

>>62015440
see
>>62015275

>>62015455
Maybe it's not sufficient for you or whatever, but it clearly happens here whether you are present or not.

Again, I'm just stressing that you cut out the whole "why aren't you guys accepting my free help" tag line. Be a bit more modest like lemonbrah, he helps people and doesn't mention it constantly.

>>62015497
no.
>>62015440
its pretty good, those drums aren't sitting in the mix well though, the toms towards the last half just don't seem to fit. try panning them back and forth.

>>62015517
and he leaves the lows layered in everything? I couldn't imagine he leaves the low end in the drum cymbals for instance.

i just took a big shit, wanna see?

>>62015542
I'm letting people know I'm here to help, is that a problem? they don't know to ask me if I don't tell them they can, or else they assume I'm just another tripfag artist trying to push my shit on you. or they'll think I'm hostile, like 33% of you are.

>>62015579

Nobody cares about your exports

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>>62015331
>FM
Dang.
But yeah, I guess. Is there one that's any easier to get into? I guess having limited options, but nice presets would be ideal.

hi

https://youtu.be/FhYQLgd1h8I?t=38s

What constitues those breathy TSSSHH sounds on 2 and 4 in this song?

i fucked my synth in the jack input guys

>>62014132
Of course you are, get into JDilla, Robert Glasper, Nujabes, Madlib, good start, then it gets weirder and more underground from there. Also listen to Porter Robinson's 2014 BBC 1 Essential Mix.

>>62014604
Compressor?

>>62014651
You need to invest in a good CPU, 8< GBs of RAM and a good Sound Card.

>>62015270
Absynth hands down.

>>62015579
kek

>>62015610
hi, what brings you to /prod/ today?

>>62015644
ok

>>62015608
>Razor
>Zebra
>Sylenth
if you want easy mode.

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im getting all the bitches now

>>62015676
>tfw razor uses 17% of my cpu

>>62015671
>absynth hands down
I want to agree so hard, but it just feels outdated now. Either way this is true, you should look into absynth.

I'm an NI shill I must admit.

>>62015720
Absynth is something that a lot of people glance over and it's not really a standard industry tool. I make amazing pads and magical sounds and shit with it, it's like, so easy it's not even funny.

>>62015720
well they do have some fucking badboi vsts desu

always mad high quality

>tfw gunna take hours and hours to reinstall all my vsts when i buy a new machine

opinions on this?

https://clyp.it/u5f32f0z

>>62014536
that sounds shit desu, blakes has much more saw to it

>>62015798
>https://clyp.it/u5f32f0z
meme

>>62015716
>tfw razor has kill 4 of my computers and 2 laptops
I don't touch razor anymore tho
>>62015774
bigtime. I barely use it anymore, but a 9 osc additive synth WITH morph! WOW!
>>62015789
ive been with NI since complete 5, upgraded to 6, 8, 9, and now 10. ultimate the whole way. They send you these little 1 tb hard drives with the VSTs on them, its pretty legit, I have 2 now.
>>62015861
so make that with more saw?
>>62015798
I like it a lot, its very amon tobin.
maybe you can add more attack with your kick?
I like to have my kick be a little bit lower, and a little bit louder than my sub bass, so it thumps. I really like your resampled synth voices.

>>62015895
just open the sound up, he darkened it too much with filters

>>62015798
New NIN/10

>>62015974
you might be right.
idk if it was me i'd be using a dedicated sub bass. I cant tell if he is. but it doesn't sound like it.

Sweep eq, or Filter your submix channels?

>>62016178
The latter lad.

Are soundcloud links okay? I want halp on my bass, it sounds very very muddy imho and could be more prominent but i dunno where to start...

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>>62015895
>getting sent hard drives with VST's by NI

that is fucking sick m8 go'wan

>tfw perfectly comfy except need new machine

>>62016211
clyp it m9.

>>62016223
Not on my pc so i wont be able to upload anytime soon, thanks anyway

>>62016208
even if all the other tracks already have sweeped eq and/or filters?

>>62016252
Re-do them.

>>62016216
that is comfy, what strain?

>>62016291
so when is it appropriate to sweep cut with eq?

>>62016455
its a 60/40 cross between kritical kush and lsd haze

glorious bud desu

>tfw no drummer
Does anyone know how to sample drums from a song? i only hope for this to be temporary until i can find a drummer or maybe use beats as an alternative

>>62016693
the same way you'd sample anything else from a song

>>62016693
Or get some good MIDI drums like Abbey Road kits.

>>62016720
No idea how to sample music. I just started getting into producing, i mostly play the guitar & vocals

>>62016786
>take your audio and import into your DAW
>Use the highest quality audio file you can (WAC FLAC, MP3 is fine really)
>chop it up using any number of tools your DAW comes with
ask more specific questions if you need to.

>>62016786
you write the midi data, and then the VST plays it, abbey road by NI ia apectacular and many other drum kits are built off of it, I use "modern drummer" and "studio drummer" built from the abbey road engine.

>>62016786
Here's 3 ways I can see that happening. Either sample it by ripping it off of other songs, get some nice MIDI drums and program your own, or get some samples and use a drum rack, or any combination of these. You can even design your own drums if you have the right tools!

>>62016847
>>62016851
I'm probably going to have to wait another month or so to get a midi drum kit. I'm already saving up for a mic interface kit so i figured i sample a couple drum parts for my track.

>you write the midi data, and then the VST plays it, abbey road by NI ia apectacular and many other drum kits are built off of it
i'll admit, you lost me at midi data. I currently use garageband if that piece of information helps


>>62016836
what does DAW stand for?

Follow mixing rules, but don't follow them religiously or else you'll only limit your creativity.
The same goes for how your songs are laid out.

>>62016988
Digital Audio Workstation. Garageband is a DAW, albeit a simpler one than most. If you like how it works you can check out Logic next, I have heard that they are really similar to each other.

>>62016988
I mean, you can do it all with software if you want. You might wanna start using a more "free" I guess DAW. Garageband is kinda vanilla.

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>>62016988
Your digital audio workstation allows you to send midi data to your drum kits. In this case it's garageband, and your kit is what ever that has.

Speaking of which. GarageBand has a great drum kit, use that, or upgrade to logic pro.

>>62016988
midi data just means notes (or automation curves, but that guy was just referring to the notes)

Hey guys, Im a complete beginner to production abd im looking to make some sample based instrumentals like the ones in Fashion Week. Can anyonr point me in the right direction to start learning

>>62017134
Start with the pasta on the OP.

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>>62015643
White nosie wioth a bandpass filter sweeping down from around 760Hz down to 420Hz (couldn't be arsed to analyze the song's spectrum)
puu dot sh/mJHon/7713859380 dot ogg

>>62016693
Get Superior Drummer.

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>>62017185
are you sure this is right?

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>>62017369

>>62017185
Thanks Ill check it out

>>62006873
You need to install the library, software and the content in a specific order or it fucks up the install of plugins.

I know this as I've installed my legit copy of Maschine and komplete ultimate 10, 3 times last week as kept fucking the order up.
Instructions are on the N.I website

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>>62017369
>fucking 4 captchas.

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https://clyp.it/sfy2cg5e

Teach me how to masters and mix drums with distorted samples.Love this but god damn, it sounds so messy. I want the sample to have impact but not overcrowd the whole flow

>>62017699
yea that's a cool sample, idk, maybe sidechain your kick to the sample and have the sample duck under the kick slightly, cut lows from things that don't need them.. idk what else, also imo that clyp doesn't sound all that messy

>>62017801
Thank you, i was dicking around and reversed Heads Will Roll by YeahYeahYeahs. Sounded fucking dope. ill try the side chain.

>>62017248
I could kiss you.

>>62017699
i would personally
>listen to the loop with an eq with a spectrum up
>make a small bandwidthed bell band and raise it like 3-6db
>move that band around and attempt to find the vital frequencies of the drums you want to improve
>now raise the bands gain "too high" just to hear what it sounds like and to get a threshhold of how the sound will distort
>now make that bell curve into a notch and see what it sounds like with that freqency removed
>you now have another threshhold in mind of how the sound will distory
>decide where inbetween those extremes you want the sound to be distored
>rinse and repeat for each vital portion of frequencies for each drum hit

you can get very personalised drums in this manner imo

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hey /prod/

I'm trying to make a default channel strip that i like in ableton.

pic related is mine so far
i think i'm going to swap out the sidechain with something else

>>62018359
any suggestions?

>>62018390
attack and release

>>62000748
https://www.absolutemusic.co.uk/yamaha-hs5w-active-studio-monitor-bundle-white.html

https://www.absolutemusic.co.uk/yamaha-hs7-and-focusrite-scarlett-2i2-studio-bundle.html


these speakers im looking at have a "frequency response" of like 54hz -30khz, im looking to make drum and bass mainly so the low ended subbass is something i will need to be able to hear, but does this stat mean that the monitors are simply NOT going to produce lower than 54hz or is it that there will be some loss of "true" flatness in their response to the signal?

>>62017494
What?

>>62018717
it means that the sensitivity will decrease with a pretty steep curve below 54Hz, which is a common range for 5" woofers. Due to the bass reflex system it won't be able to reproduce anything around 5-10ish Hz lower than that at all

>>62018842
would you suggest that i opt for a larger cone for a better response?

or should i stick with these sorta 5" and invest in a subwoofer?

im looking to invest around £1000 maybe slightly more into monitors and PC.

>>62018717
Not good enough, you need to hear at least down to 20-30 Hz especially if you're doing bass music.

>>62018912
it totally depends on your room
with most tiny untreated bedrooms we're usually producing in it makes a lot more sense to invest in higher quality speakers instead of huge membrane surface that will bloat your room with muddy bass triggering all kinds of room modes.
once you get used to your setup and know how your mixes translate to other systems and headphones and so on you can mix pretty much everything, whether you're able to monitor the whole audible spectrum or not. just think about all these people mixing mainly on NS-10 or Auratones

>>62019100
could you suggest any examples that are suitable for that range?

i've been suggested the hs5's before and ive heard them sound very good but im just trying to make THE BEST THE BEST THE BEST decision

>>62019124
i intend to buy proofing foam for my immediate walls

yes or no to sacrafising £££ for subwoofer?

>>62019456
>proofing foam
read up on acoustic treatment first, just slapping some cheap thin foam on the wall will do nothing but kill your room in the high frequencies and won't even touch the bass' decay time
prepare to building some absorbers of 10"ish material thickness if you want to really make use of a serious subwoofer

When is it okay to use synth presets?

>>62020000
whenever man the idea is to make music just use whatever you want

desu people saying otherwise are just faggots

nice quads

>>62020000
whenver you want, although if you were to learn how a synth works you would realize how simple most presets are, and how to take presets and really get intricate with them

>>62020115
i dunno (not that guy btw) i know how each individual part of a synth works and what it does to a sound but i still have a really hard time recreating sounds or recognizing what a synth i'm hearing is made up of.

>>62020000
When you like how they sound..

>>62020214
>hard time recreating sounds
That's probably because the people who made the sound layered a bunch of either simple or complex and evolving sounds to get one sound
> or recognizing what a synth i'm hearing is made up of.
sometimes it's not even a synth

>>62020214
>>62020536
I forgot to say what I was going to say regarding
>>hard time recreating sounds
>That's probably because the people who made the sound layered a bunch of either simple or complex and evolving sounds to get one sound
and you probably have a hard time recognizing or understanding what's going on because of how crazy the patch or patches are, and because of how good the producer knows synthesis, conversely the sound you could be hearing could have been made by someone with little to no understanding of synthesis or sound design, so they might have done a bunch of unorthodox and untraditional stuff , that sounded good simply because they have an ear for it

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>>62020214
just make something shit and resample it it on its own
just go ham within the sampler and making one noise then export it as its own mp3

then go again and just fuck with your noise to your taste

>>62019662
pic related

would you have any suggestions on how to go about changing the rooms foam placements?

>>62021105
don't even bother if you're going to put the speakers in a corner

>>62021450
is it really gunna fuck my monitoring up having the speakers in the walls crevice like that?

a few days ago here i posted a cheesy joke song i made. tonight i attempted to properly mix and master a loop from it because i've never done it before. it was done with the built in stuff in ableton live 8 intro. i like it but the drums didn't come out well because i couldnt use any effects on them. live 8 intro limits you to 12 effects total.

https://clyp.it/hyyprngy

here's the original for comparison
https://clyp.it/11a1v03l

>>62021561
yes, your side walls should be the same distance, means center your desk and there should be some distance to the back wall as well

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can someone explain how this dudes mixes aren't fucked up even though his speakers are so close to the wall.

>>62021664
because it's not that big a deal how you make your music and mixes, once it gets to the mastering engineer he will fix any issues, if there are any, and will balance out the mix even more than you already had. A lot of times people don't send their shit to a mastering engineer, and it still sounds great, just don't worry about it too much.

>>62021664
because record labels tend to have their own team of producers and mix engineers they send his tracks thru