what are some good noise blogs? I love using these to find weird shit and having reviews of it. it's a great way to contextualize the more obscure aspects of experimental music. these are the ones I use that are relevant to /noise/. also webzines would be wonderful, I only know heathen harvest which mostly concerns itself with neofolk and atmoblack.
>TRPZ Disorted digi synths coupled with appropriate lengths of silence builds some tension, before moving into almost a wall. Some other textures/tones would have been nice among the overdriven military-industrial-esque vibe.
******************************************************** >Race Bateman Starts slow atmosphere and crackly, which is a nice contrast to previous track. surprising shrill sounds stab and break into industrial rhythms.
I want to make some comparison between the shit-effort aesthetics here and Texas's penchant for backwards thinking, though it may be unjustified given that there seems to be some sort of fan base for this stuff.
******************************************************** >Gas Station of Love An interesting sample starts off this track, something I would not have necessarily expected in hollow sounding bass starts winding upwards, sounding something like a malfunctioning gameboy in a tin can, or like listening to a live skrillex concert recorded and played back on a Motorola Razr. Perhaps a tad long and laboured?
******************************************************** >Melanina Menacing sounding PE, sounds like what the cover of "Music for the Jilted Generation" looks like, though not nearly as comical. It's oddly danceable, placing you in the rave from hell and loving it. All of a sudden, the DJ's deck catches on fire, and nobody minds.
******************************************************** >The Dreaming Corpse Once again, another soft beginning to draw a contrast with the tail end of the previous track. Could very well be the sounds of a corpse decompsing, as various insects aid in the decomposition. Minimal, 'lo fi' spirals, sweeps and taps become rhythmic and tribal. The insects are on the move. Can you hear them?
>>61998155 Thats what he calls it, he just sets up a half stack and feeds the mic into it to create tons of feedback then just screams, takes swings at people, spits, its pretty raw and super exciting to see him perform live.
>>61998155 Thats what he calls it, he just sets up a half stack and feeds the mic into it to create tons of feedback then just screams, takes swings at people, spits, its pretty raw and super exciting to see him perform live, he's a really cool dude too, way different than his "performance persona"
>>61998202 >>61998214 I was thinking about this the other day. There's plenty of bands I like to see like because they always have great live shows, but I would never listen to them otherwise. Sometimes it's not always about the music, but the theatrics of it. Particularly if the crowd is really getting into it.
>>61998298 The live shows are so much fun, ive seen him perform a few times, twice i was there to photograph him as well and you really have to stay out of his eyeline and pay attention to your surroundings, I definitely almost got nailed by chair once and almost puked on another time.
Got an important question for you guys. I don't know if it was in the pastebin at one time, but I don't have a link to it anyway. Are there any PDFs of books about the classic noise and industrial acts of Europe, particularly that go in to detail about the motivations and reasons behind the art? I'm in a position where I need to begin research for a semester paper and this is a potential topic of choice.
>>61998631 He didnt ruin anyones equipment. It was an honest accident and he ended up fucking his knee up pretty bad. And as for the fucking around, thats just what he does, its part of the experience, he probably shouldnt have been doing that that close to someone else's gear I totally get it but when you get into your own thing sometimes everything around you just kinda fades away and people or objects get hit or hurt
>>61999556 Good haul, waiting for those Word Of Life Church SS tapes to get in, should be a good listen. Completely forgot Trapdoor had some Vomir tapes (and a Dead Body Collection tape(!)), I'll have to order them some time
>>61999966 Lucky I just finished track 10. I do feel like some tracks are far more engaging and easier to write about, while others I can't say much other than just giving some flowery descriptions.
>XathaX It's apparent from the title the XathaX feels the creep of suburban population looming on their doorstep. Running out of land to build houses, the next most obvious step is upwards, to build monumental buildings to house hundreds. You can never run out of sky.
******************************************************** >Pagoda Mast Here we head straight into another balls to the wall chaotic mess. Rhythmic-in-a-good way, artificial snares break up the dirge of noisy rumbles. Plainfield might not be a place you want to live, but at least you're having a good time making your stuff here.
>xshewasholdinganumbrellax A hail storm on a tin roof, or a not quite tuned AM radio, you be the judge. Squeels of feedback occasionally rise up over the lo fi calamity, likely suggesting that it is the latter.
Can anyone shed some light on what Kotzescheisze means?
>Window Listener Longtime noise maker and raw data mangler Window Listener brings another track to the table. Guys, if you're going to purely work with importing raw data, this is how you do do it. This is composed and representing a clear aesthetic.
>Cosmonaut Not sure where to place this among all the other tracks. Not to say that it is bad in any way, just that it's definitely not the most noisy track here. It's atmospheric for sure, though would much more comfortable fit in the middle of a traditional doom album. Seriously heavy Planet Caravan vibes here.
>>61999941 >What are the main essentials? I hate the concept of essentials but here is a selection of mostly "famous" artists that will give you a good sense of what the genre is like mo*te - life in a peaceful new world the rita - thousands of dead gods (and then the rest of his discog) Vomir & Yoshihiro Kikuchi - Collaboration anything else by vomir he's a purist and it's all pretty similar vag - music for smoke filled elevators
>>62000274 Looks like it was simply in order of submission. When I did the last one, I ordered it alphabetically. In both cases, I think the overall experience could have been better with a bit of curatorial work, choosing which tracks play off each other. I'm not up to track 13, and I had to turn up the volume for 12 so I could actually notice the subtleties in its sounds.
>>62001131 I think we're waiting until May, since that's when this one guy said he could run it. However if anyone else would be willing to curate it then maybe sooner? I think March at the earliest but April may be better. We'll need some time
>>62001308 >>62001223 Sure thing, or post them here. There was a huge debate in the last thread about BC/SC posts, (let's not get on to that again), though I still feel it's perfectly reasonable to post your stuff here, as long as you learn from whatever feedback you are given. Ignore the BS and focus on the artists who are clearly putting significant effort into their work.
>>62001595 Posies As with all compilations, there are going to be some tracks that just stand out above all others. In this case it was because of the track order, but having previously heard much of Posies work, I am just as impressed here as I am with the rest of his work. At just two minutes long, it doesn't drag on like some of the other tracks tend to. The variations in feedback, and percussive elements really add a sense of urgency, and hardly feel laboured. The BC page doesn't have any artist link, so here's one https://soundcloud.com/posies
Sovende You may want to turn your volume up for this one. The entire track seems to be made up mostly of high end, with some field recordings and new age inspired synth work heard faintly in the background. What this track does well is subtlty. There are climaxes, though they don't reach the epicness for lack of a better description you might expect in some other PE. Perhaps if it was mixed a little louder, it may stand out better among the other tracks which are all loud, though that in my opinion would take away most of its charm.
If anyone could point me to more of this guys work, I'd appreciate it.
tttttttttlllllllll Having been to Melbourne only once in my life (and for a short time at that), I definitely feel what what trying to be achieved here. On the surface, Melbourne really doesn't differ all that much from any other major cities in Australia, it does however have a far more cosmopolitan feel than some. Field recordings of city chatter center you in such a place, and a dim hum approximates the induction fans that inhabit the inner city laneways.
its like some fucking dumbass tumblr faggot just bought a digital camera with their parent's money and now claim to be a professional photographer despite not knowing how to properly frame or weight a picture in the slightest and then give their shit pictures to their friends shitty noise band because they cant be fucked to actually learn how to write music
>>62002110 my connection has become really weak all of a sudden, so its taking ages to try and post something.
>Rafiki Stradley I'm probably missing out on some kind of local political discussion here, but if Melton really is a town which benefits from money promised to aid dying children, then that's a little fucked. So, why not make a track about it?
This one is a slow burner. Sitting among the longer tracks here, it is a nice change of pace to the heart pumping electronic chaos found otherwise in the a lot of of the previous tracks.
>Industrial Hydrophobia At first this would also seem to be an out of place tune. The simple chord progression works well against the slew of junk noise and squeeling feedback that follows, it is quite surprising, especially given the anticipation built up after the quietness of the previous track. You can in fact hear the chords played throughout the sonic turmoil.
>Nihil's Maw I feel as though I'd experience such a HNW track better with larger speakers, though I digress. I do quite like the genre, and won't speak ill about it. Nihil's Maw properly capture the aesthetic of the harsh noise wall. The title here even speaks of floods moving and building layers of soil in such a way that I can imagine somebody sculpting a track like this. It's just the right length too, one thing I personally like about the HNW form is that it can take on any shape or form.
>>62003087 4mn in your track, I appreciate that it's not one single sound going on, it has some movements. This is a plus compared to some other tracks.
I think it lacks some overdubbing. You have this cyclical really distorted chaos going on on the foreground, maybe you could have add some other sound to the "periphery", like piercing feedback, low rumble with a smoother textures, anything that will add contrast and depth.
Now if you want to make walls + accoustic, my advice would be to look into motors. You can scavenge small motors from tape players, power them with 9v batteries and have the axis grind guitar strings, cymbal, springs, etc. Basically it's a spinning bow.
I've made this : https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=TFT_E4DbHtg
I've added a felt pad on the motor axis for a smoother sound, because I was looking to make drone and such.
who are good harsh/noise-wall recommendations except the japanoise scene compare with my pic? i'm hardly new to listen to noise and has just checked some essential albums. the rita, prurient and vomir fit me well
>>62003212 This is exactly what I was looking for. Spinning bow was pretty much what I was going for with the drill. I'm probably going to start building instruments now. My end goal is to be able to play this shit live.
Anyone have any experience doing percussion stuff in noise? I kind of like having a driving rhythm, and was thinking about doing some trashy tinny percussion on a loop while I go nuts in the foreground. Maybe something with my hammer.
>>62003291 Same guy who answered you. I don't really have an experience with percussion in noise. But you remind me of this crazy live vid I've seen this weekend : https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=nedv2RkJyNw
>>62003330 If you like sampling, there is the usual digital sampler/looper solution, but maybe you could look into tape loops ? They are way clunkier but they sound gnarly, and the whole "falling apart" aspect can give interesting results. I've built my whole setup around a 4-track tape player for live tape looping.
>>62003361 I will definitely look into that. I'll probably start stockpiling equipment this week. The plan is to put out an album/ep/something in the next couple months or so, but spend even more time and effort making sure it doesn't suck. I was looking into The Rita's stuff with the two stroke. I might try something like that.
>Infernal Climax True to the title, there isn't much happening in this track. Open it in your favourite media player, and click anywhere along the timeline, and you won't notice much change. Does that make this a wall of noise? Perth is apparently a place where nothing happens. I'd go out on a limb and say that there are some things that happen there (in fact one of my favourite Australian bands comes from here), though thematically, yes this track does make sense. It's not the easiest to digest wall, though does serve it's purpose. I don't know what it would be like to grow up in Perth. I don't know if I 100% like this track, though as I play through segments again and again, I feel it does get stronger. Perhaps this is one of those cases where a longer wall is a better wall. Play this one through a couple of times, and you can comes to appreciate the variations in noise that you can hear
>Lachesist Possibly one of my favourite track names on the album. I can just imagine some cops raiding a DIY noise gig in the middle of a town square, after one of the performers assaults a passerby. In fact, that's almost what happened. Here's an excerpt from the Post Life Industries BC page which explains it better than I could -
"I recorded the vocals in the pavilion you see on the cover. It's in a large public park not 10 minutes from my childhood home, where I used to play baseball as a kid. It was the middle of a cold night, after Christmas but before New Year's. Families snugged tight in their homes called the cops because they heard a maniac yelling in the back yard. After they patted me down and made sure I wasn't a murderous felon, they were interested to hear what I was recording.
calling WCPC a "hack" when anybody can ask their parents for a couple hundred bucks to play with some expensive synths and act "talented" in noise. Go fucking do what he does one night. He's not only the one modern PE act that actually makes real PE (instead of just labeling some weak death industrial as PE), but his aesthetics are even in the right place. Noise is supposed to piss you off. You just got your first taste of something real, and you couldn't handle it. You're out of your element.
>>61998383 As far as I know no one's done a PDF of it yet, but it would be well worth your time and money to get a copy of the first (and likely only) issue of As Loud As Possible, put out by Steve Underwood who's also responsible for Harbinger Sound. Of particular interest to you is a LONG spread with Gary Mundy, where he talks about the history of Broken Flag, performing live as Ramleh, and discusses release-by-release everything put out on the label, with specific offerings from the other artists involved when possible.
This isn't even getting in to the other fantastic articles included: interviews with Climax Denial, Sewer Election, Putrefier, G.X. Jupitter-Larsen, and one of the most comprehensive explanations of the motivations of HNW by the man himself, Sam McKinlay.
Copies are increasingly scarce. I've found a site that looks like it might have copies in stock:
>>61998383 Ill repost this from the archive cause its not something people will likely search
hey /noise/ I discovered that I had some pdfs of noise related books/essays while cleaning out my documents folder, I upped them to mega: >https://mega.nz/#F!ZMtRyZYS!UCn0Y0dmJtfxK7dJXjjB_Q this contains: Art of Noise After Futurism Macronympha Bananafish interview Immersion into Noise Noise in and as Music
>>62007198 I think that's what it was, its at my computer back home so when im done with class ill up it but if you want it sooner its on the aporea post on ahogonsindustrialguide. I'd suggest reading through that either way that dude knows his shit about old eastern European experimental music
>>62009398 That's exactly what I did. Sound collage is more important for me than noise, generally, and I recorded that track before this project came around. I knew when I submitted it it would kind of stick out, but I figured it'd be appreciated for a 3-hour+ long project.
as these comps will always be associated with /noise/ in one way or another, would it be worth them being released under a "label" of /noise/, and then given their relevant catalog number (NBND001 or NBND2015), rather than their own NBND label?
just a thought, to make it easier to explore the network of /noise/ artists we have here
>>62009907 I'm on the more free improv and junk side of things too and when I submitted HB track I also figured it would stick out but with things like this I think the variety really adds to it, especially when it's so long
>>62009923 Well, think of it this way, it allows for the artists to hone their skills and get even better at their craft. I would work on it earlier but I have a busy semester. Rest assured by May I'll have the concept and guidelines ready. And is there anyone who has a problem with leaving this next one off bandcamp and instead just putting up an initial mega link? I'll be sure to post info about each artist that contributes in liner notes, likely complete with concept relevant artwork.
>>62012134 >>62013923 I organised the first compilation, and the only problem I see is if someone goes and does a half assed job at it. There are already a few labels associated with /noise/ posters, some quality and some not so good, and I think there are already plenty of options for more established labels to put stuff out. Not to mention the plethora of labels associated with the various noise subreddits.
Secondly, branching out and having your noise heard by people from different circles will definitely help improve your listener base, and any feedback you may get.
Those are the first three that come to mind. You could search /r/cassetteculture for 'noise' and 'label', and come up with others.
Of the above, I personally like the look or Post Life Industries, though I haven't got any clue as to what they actually sound like or whatever. I've also had dealings with Pro Death and Bicephalic Records before, so they seem quite good.
>>62025848 I have it. I was ripping it the other night because the copy on what sounds like absolute garbage and I noticed on my copy the track White Phosphorus Baths is a duplicate track of Appearing Townsman, something must have fucked up during the dubbing.
Is dad-noise a thing? If it is, it would be something like this. Images of slightly bent LP's rotating around a turn table, surface noise, AM radio and wooden panels on cars. It might not be contemporary any more, but once upon a time, in certain places in the world, it was. And sometimes it's ok to sit back and reminisce with a cup of tea or coffee.
Hey, don't sound so bitter! I'm sure there's more to your town than just shitty friends. Some of the more groovy and interesting stuff I've heard from Asbestos Lead Asbestos. They way rhythm is handled is quite good, often in noise rhythm will fall into either the industrial or breakbeat category. This comes has the hallmarks of the 90's/early 00's vein of noise weirdness, not that I'm overly familiar with it. It almost reminds me of something off of Devin Townsend's Devlab album.
But seriously peeps, if your friends are using you in any way, set clear boundaries and expectations for them.
Cowboy of Noise Speaking frankly, this is the sort of noise I don't find all that appealing. Perhaps watching it live would be more interesting. I am not quite sure how it is generally put together, save for combining recordings of various circuit bent electronic toys and other live sounds, which is something I could certainly see myself enjoying the sight of. It comes across as very laid back, not taking anything too seriously, which is something I can certainly admire. A lot of the time noise can get stuck within the oh so serious image, so in contrast to that this can be something refreshing. And at just under four minutes long, it doesn't stick around too long to become annoying.
>>62026863 >We Also Let Blood There seem to be an appropriate amount of walls on this album so far, all well spaced apart too. The good thing about walls, is that they can give you time to reflect on things. Be it other tracks on a compilation, or reflecting on your own placement within society, or lackethere of. For any of you who haven't read Vomir's manifesto on the harsh noise wall, please do.
Close your eyes, and use these spaces of time to focus deeply on something. It's ok it you don't have an epipheny.
>Melinoe I first read this title as an insult to the audience. Maybe it is. But it can just as easily be an insult given to the artist. NY is one of the largest metropolitan centers of the world, I can't imagine it would be an easy place to break into the local scene.
Let's focus on the noise for a minute though... Another wall, though this time it appears to be made from feedback, rather than a sound source distorted to hell and back. As such, it doesn't feel solid, it feels as if it could collapse at any point in time.
>Luis Vilbro Another slow, steady atmospheric track here. There are two main loops playing off each other, which would ideally culminate in some minor catastrophy. Could easily be the beginning track to a great dark ambient or minimal PE record.
>Fever House Far more searing in tone than the track about Searing. There's many things we can thank Birmingham for despite it being known for it's industry rather than culture. I'm sure you can think of at least one or two great things. As such, there is an appropriately metallic taste to Fever House's submission, even bucking the naming trend to go for something far more straightforward.
>>62036158 I'm largely the same regarding nylon / foot worship and how little I care for it personally, but that's certainly not going to stop me from picking up something by The Rita. And missing out on that "Total Women's Stocking Worship" shirt is something I've been kicking myself over for a while.
His more recent focus on ballet is definitely something that appeals to me though. It feels more like new ground, and not on the tired level of feet / giallo / nihilism / whatever.
>>62036284 >>62036417 Yeah I know it's just a point of view, and I phrased in a blunt way to spark some conversation. It's just that I don't see how artists make their connection between the theme for a particular release and their sound. What it conveys or how it's created. Although if I remember correctly The Rita has used recording of ballerina dancers performing with contact mics in their shoes, then mangled the result to death. I must admit that's interesting.
>>62036606 It's an abstract relationship a lot of times. Things often just sound like a concept and that's all there is to it. Other time it's based on psychological responses to certain sounds and thus an association with an atmosphere and a concept. Other non innate associations can come from experience such as with pop culture, media, or other events. You have to think of it in a detailed light with regards to moods, atmospheres, and psychological response. It's not just an arbitrary association with a concept.
Dynamic noise/electro acoustic material from two masters. Best of both worlds in modular and harsh noise. Enjoying this with a harsh noise coffee that is just as sludgy as this album. >Pain Jerk and Russell Haswell - Electroacoustic Sludge Dither Transformation Smear Grind Decomposition nO!se File Exchange Mega Edit http://www.mediafire.com/download/i5yy2piuz3y6us0/Russell_Haswell_-_Electroacoustic_Sludge_Dither_Transformation_Smear_Grind_Decomposition_nO%21se_File_Exchange_Mega_Edit_%28with_Pain_Jerk%29.zip
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