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>Post gear
>Post desired gear
>How long have you been playing?
>Fav guitars?
>Fav guitarists?
>Projects?
>Talk about and play music
>General guitar and bass discussion

Music Theory:
>http://www.justinguitar.com/

Guitar chords and inversions
>http://www.chordbook.com/guitarchords.php

String Tension Calculator (D'Addario based):
>http://hikkyz.net/misc/stringassembler/

Floyd Rose Setup Video Tutorial:
>http://youtu.be/umY5NBKg5AA?list=PLcm7Ag6Q-OkZAmlY6dAhS2ZL9TUMeRZdI[Open] [Open] [Embed] [Embed] [Embed] [Open] [Embed] [Open] [Embed]
Steve Vai's Ten Hour Workout
>http://www.mediafire.com/download/kzw6kjuocgicwks/Ten_Hour.pdf
Guthrie Govan's Creative Guitar 1 & 2
>http://www.mediafire.com/download/bn8803xzlrbds3b/Guitar1.rar
>http://www.mediafire.com/download/9uhtufuf3z9cx8m/Guitar2.rar

Impulse Response Pack
>http://www.mediafire.com/download/svtfxjtillrdwt8/Gods+Cab+1.3.rar
>http://www.mediafire.com/download/4n28zkjw0zgmdj9/ASEM+RECTO+V30+L2.wav

Free VST downloads (amps and effects simulators):
>http://www.vst4free.com/

ASIO drivers (essential to use VSTs while playing):
>http://www.asio4all.com/

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>Advancing Guitarist Mick Goodrick
http://www.mediafire.com/download/cvfno10fv4lf4a8
>Chord Chemistry - Ted Greene
http://www.mediafire.com/download/61n5op7eiifxztg

Others
>Mickey Baker's Jazz Guitar
http://www.mediafire.com/download/zq35xorj2iaqh22
>Modern Chord Progressions: Jazz and Classical Voicings for Guitar - Ted Greene
http://www.mediafire.com/download/oflu4wdwofhqqtb
>Jazz Guitar: Single Note Soloing Vol. 1 & 2- Ted Greene
http://www.mediafire.com/download/07o65qdh5in1nsq
http://www.mediafire.com/download/jmu86f7dj8bdxcd
>Beefhearts 10 guitar commandments
https://archive.org/post/338826/captain-beefhearts-10-commandments-of-playing-the-guitar
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Happy New Bass Day to me
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>>61931912
Did you cum on your strings?
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>>61931927
The strings are rubber, not steel.
The bass has a piezo bridge on it, so what the strings are made of doesn't matter as long as it vibrates.
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>>61931912
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>>61931912
Why don't people make something like those in a more conventional bass guitar size?
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Tele or Strat?
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>>61931949
Also as a result of the rubber strings, there's practically no tension on the neck, so it doesn't need a truss rod. As a result, the bass only cost $400 new.
Also that picture doesn't show it, but this thing is about 3" shorter than a normal guitar and weighs 2 pounds.
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>>61932016
cause they're silly and they suck for actual playing
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>>61932020
TELE A BEST
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>>61931912
>>61931949
>>61932032
shill pls go away
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>>61932020
im bored of both
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>>61932020
Jags and Jazzmaster hehe XDXD
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>>61932032
$400! I could understand the concept if the thing was $200 or less but you can find a real quality instrument for that price.
> Also, this is from Fender
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reposting from previous thread for answer.
i have a prs se 24 can i downtune it to d standard without worrying about spring tension or will it fuck up my tuning completely?
also if i do it will i need to readjust the springs after i go back to the basic tuning or it should be fine?
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>>61932009
Ashbory Bass.
Fretless bass with silicone rubber gasket cord for strings.
Showed it to my parents, they said "that looks like a toy!" Then I plugged it in and played a little and their jaws dropped.
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>>61932020
Strat > tele
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>>61932108
if u walked out on stage in front of me w that id probably slap the shit out of u tbqh fammo
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>>61932108

It sounds like a synth bass
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>>61932088
Is this thing seriously 400$ ? Fretless doesn't even take more work to build, you could buy a used squier, defret it yourself and swap the pickups and end up with a better sounding result.
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>>61932210
> Fretless doesn't even take more work to build
Yeah, especially when it's a plastic fretboard
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>>61932016
Because there's no need to.
The piezo element doesn't care what the string is made of as long as it vibrates, and lots of things vibrate at bass guitar frequencies.

>>61932049
People asked about it, dipshit.
That's why I'm talking about it.

>>61932088
That's $400 for a fretless bass with multiple unique parts and tooling, active electronics because of the piezo, and selling at full retail.
If you think that's a lot for a decent bass you need to find a job.

>>61932127
>le internet tough guy
No you wouldn't. You're too much of a pussy to do that.

>>61932210
They were $400 at full retail. I found mine for $200 used locally.
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>>61932289
>plastic fretboard
where's that picture of a dog vomiting when you need it ?
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>>61932294
>Because there's no need to.

I meant more from a familiarity across different instruments perspective. Also, it'd look better in a more conventional size and shape.
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Best guitar suited for metal but can do other stuff as well?
Budget 800-900
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>>61932294
> If you think that's a lot for a decent bass you need to find a job.
Except it's not nowhere near decent for that price : 18" scale, made of agathis and plastic, piezo pickups, silicone strings
It's a cool toy at best but other than that, i fail to see the point of having one of these.
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>>61932106
If you're using a different string gauge that will give you the exact same tension in your new tuning, no.

If you're using the same strings then yes, you will need to loosen the spring tension slightly to keep the bridge level.
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how do i achieve this tone
https://bulldogeyes.bandcamp.com/album/have-i-always-looked-this-way-single
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I posted this last thread and someone told me to look at the headstock but I can't make out the brand name, so can anyone ID the guitar she's playing? Thanks babes

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=h1lFM1K8R1s
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>>61932740
look at the fucking headstock you double dumbfuck
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>>61932791
I went into 1080p and paused it a number of times and I still couldn't make out the brand name
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>>61932740
>>61932805
You need to work on your Google-fu m8.

"pj harvey white guitar" literally gives you the answer in seconds
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>>61932932
thank you family
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>>61931639

Whenever I hear people say:
>I'm more of a rhythm guitarist

What is hear is:
>I suck at guitar.


Am I wrong, /gg/?
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>>61932020

G&L. ASAT probably.


>>61932381
What kind of metal, anon? With the right amp, anything with humbuckers usually works.
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what do you do when you practiced to much and your fingers hurt as fuck but you want to keep going?
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>>61933432

Superglue
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>>61933432
Just don't. Take a break. It's not worth risking an injury.
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>>61933387
Excellent rhythm playing takes effort to develop, might be as important as good lead. But yeah I've heard that phrase as an excuse of shit leads.
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>dat es-275
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>>61933387
Overall, it's easier to be a decent rhythm than to be a decent lead.
But take Malcolm Young from AC/DC. His rhythm playstyle would put to shame a lot of lead guitarists.
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>>61933578
can't find much info on it. Specs?
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>>61931949
>rubber
>silicone
pick one senpai
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>>61933651
Only saw it in this video
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=WV-HX06NwYI
Didn't look up any specs but it looks sexy as fuck. Will probably cost an arm and a leg though.
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>>61933651

Specs:
Coolness: Maximum
Price: Unattainable.
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opinions on the s series guitars and zr trems?

I know everybody likes rgs but literally see no discussion on the s series
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Should I be learning melodies from other musicians or should I invent original ones
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>>61933854
>invent original ones
impossible
they've all already been invented, at least when using 12tet
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Got a fender strat because I found it almost flawless condition in a closing down pawn shop, (200) also got the champion 100 amp (also fender) for 270 new
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>>61933871
I got 22 frets bro
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>>61933914
>12 tone equal temperament
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>>61933786
They're incredibly thin, I tried one in a store and boy it feels like you've got nothing on the lap. I also love having an HSH config.
The only thing I really hate about those is the fucking switch, it's so ugly.
Otherwise it feels pretty much like a lighter and more versatile RG.
Can't say anything on the trem though.
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>>61933854

Can't break the rules before you know them.
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>>61933944
Oh, thanks. I guess I have a lot to learn
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What song would you choose as your entrance theme as you walk into a Guitar Center to own noobs?

this is my choice

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=F73EcycGCO8
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>Peavey making a 20w 6505 head to compete with the Tiny Terror
>It's US $179
>Also making a 1x18 subwoofer to go with a 1x12 speaker

This NAMM is so exciting
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=SAbP7GyT7Q4
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>>61933786

I wished Ibanez made a guitar that looks acceptable on the average 40 year old dad.
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>>61934230
>artcore series
>roadcore series
You're welcome.
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>>61933578
>>61933770
>based on the L5
>but scaled down and laminate
For what purpose?

Also, why are thinline archtops desirable? Don't archtop folks all want bigger archtops, claiming depth changes the tone or some other quality of the sound?
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>>61932020
Both.
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>>61934213
>$179
I'm betting it'll have all sorts of QC issues at this price if it's an all tube head.
If it doesn't, that'll be impressive. Hopefully retailers won't take ages to start selling them where I live.
The 1x18" subwoofer seems really interesting though.
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>>61932289
That's all you need. It's smooth as can be, the silicone strings aren't going to wear it out, and plastic is both more temperature stable and cheaper to boot.

>>61932299
>tonewood matters on an instrument equipped only with a piezo
Nope.
Plus, you don't have to worry about your fretboard not being smooth.

>>61932312
>it'd look better in a more conventional size and shape
Perhaps, but they tried that already and it didn't sell.
It's already a special snowflake guitar-if you're going to own one, you might as well embrace the flakiness. Besides, the weird shape and short scale length lends itself very well to playing while sitting on the couch or in a chair. Much more so than a "regularly" shaped electric bass.

>>61933387
You're not wrong.

>>61933432
If it's just your fingertips, dip them in ice water for a couple of minutes.
If it's the tendons in your hand, it's time to take a break.
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Why do they even have guitar players in big bad jazz? You can barely even hear it.
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>>61933655
>silicone rubber isn't a thing
Yes it is
https://en.m.wikipedia.org/wiki/Silicone_rubber
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>>61934326
where did I even speak about tonewoods ? It's just that plastic feels like shit to the touch when compared to wood.
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>>61934239

With a super thin neck and 24 frets.
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>>61933854
Learn others' melodies and then vary them a little. That's the way everybody has done anything musical since the dawn of time.
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>>61934322
It's probably a hybrid if it's that price, not sure. The subwoofer seems like a great idea to me though.
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>>61934372
>ARZ series
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>>61934372
>24 frets.
No. Their hollowbodies are 21 fret, the roadcore and talman are 22.
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>>61934244
Laminates feedback a lot less. I like thinline archtops because they give you the plugged in sound of a full body archtop without the huge body. They're just comfy instruments. They definitely don't sound as good acoustically though. A Gibson Byrdland is basically a thinline shortscale L5 and it sounds great, even unplugged it's not bad.

Given a choice I would still play a full depth 17" archtop though, but that's only because I like my guitar to be loud acoustically.
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>>61932381
mockingbird desu
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>>61933786
got an old edge3 i missed out on the zr stuff, pomf for intrest
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>>61934332
Tradition + Percussive element.

Most modern big band players are more Charlie Christian than Freddie Green though. Everyone is loud enough to solo these days.
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Just bought a second-hand Fender American Special Tele for £480 (pic related). Did I do good?
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>>61934173
I don't go into Guitar Center to "own noobs"
When I'm trying out gear there I keep it turned down. Unless I'm planning on buying an amp. then I take it in the sound room.
I get people watching me and asking my advice on stuff all the time after playing though
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>>61934513
protip: you're the noob getting owned
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>>61934431
>they give you the plugged in sound of a full body archtop without the huge body.
Maybe I'm biased. I like a very specific sound I've heard in jazz guitar, which is that little percussive bit at the beginning of notes like Joe Pass or Tal Farlow got. I've never heard a thinline get that sort of Joe Pass' Joy Spring percussive "thunk" sound, much less the almost offensive levels of that percussive element that Tal Farlow got. Seems like a sound that only comes from ES-175s, ES-125s, ES-350s, and Gibson Tal Farlows, all big, hollow, laminate archtops.
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>>61934173
the only choice

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=hTWKbfoikeg
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>>61934513
arrogant prick
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Anybody tried the generic eBay Hotrails? Thinking about getting some for my cheap imitation strat. For $20 it seems worth a shot
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>>61934542
>>61934640
shouldn't you kids be in school
or is there a blizzard?
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>>61934704
i'm from the UK

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=e4QBcdmn30I
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Alright /gg/, you have $400 to assemble the best pedalboard possible. I'll be judging you on brand names and diversity of effects.
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>>61933770
Why are Gibson guitars so expensive? How did black guys in the 50s afford them?
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>>61934771
replace DS-1 with OS-2
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>>61934792
thats not what I asked you
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>>61934771
>>61934792
also where's the BF-3, John Squire eh?
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>>61934771
10 Boss DS-1s
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>>61934815
10/10 winrar
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>>61934812
might as well have a cry baby wah-wah while i'm at it
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>>61934815
>DS-1s
>not 10 boss HM2
do you even swedeath
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>>61934771
>$400
poorfag pedalboards are always shit
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>>61934771
1 eventide h9
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>>61934866
how much you spend total on your pedalboard m8?
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>>61934230
you're welcome
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>>61934573
I think you can get that sound out of Thinline Hollowbodies. They're still pretty loud acoustically, especially some of the Gibsons like the Byrdland, ES-350t etc..

What do you think of Grant Green's tone?

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Leo50QoAHWA
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>>61934882

Yeah I don't want to play that when I'm 40. It looks like some Mitsubishi lancer.
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>>61931639
i really want that guitar
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>>61934902
Well, shit, that's definitely got that the percussive element to it. Maybe I should start looking at thinline ES-175s because full-depth ones are fucking big.
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>>61934326
holy shit why are so defensive about your $200 toy and think that people don't what piezo pups are
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>>61934632
It looks like something that came straight out of The Jetsons.
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>>61934943
You're welcome.
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>>61934943
I don't know why but that made me laugh.
RG owner here. I also like Lancers :^)
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>>61935088

That one looks like a Subaru that a little girl painted on.
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>>61934943
Ibanez JEM, or Universe if you want to go 7-string, Steve Vai is almost 60. There's also Paul Gilbert's signature models.
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>>61935153
you are welcome
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>>61935170

Steve Vai can rock that Rockstar look though. When I'm 40 I'm going to be bald and fat and just plain right ugly.

It just seems to weird playing an RG then. It's like, imagine your dad wearing skinny jeans man.
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>>61935246
>implying there are not tons of 40 year old dudes who still have their original 80s rgs and jems
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>>61935047
Yeah, and he was using an ES-330 there which is about as thin as it gets. I used to have an Epiphone casino that could nail that sound, for me the secret to that sound is a rosewood/ebony bridge + thick flatwound strings.

Thinline es-175s are pretty rare, but sometimes you can find thinline ES-125s that have been modified for humbuckers and you can get them for way cheap and you can't beat a 1950s Gibson.. I'm looking for one myself to replace the Casino.
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>>61935277

I'm sure there are. I just don't want to be caught with one. I want something timeless.. Maybe a Les Paul or a Strat. Something that fits all ages.
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>>61935336
>timeless
>les paul
kek
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>>61935364

Yeah they do look a bit like an old man's guitar.
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Working on a track with a couple of friends, very basic home recording. Looking for comments/feedback on the mix. It's all raw tracks right now besides a small amount of reverb on the vocals, no EQ yet, and an empty section towards the end where a solo will be.

So far I know I'll have to tame the bass back quite a bit on the primary guitar track.

Track starts at 6 seconds:
http://picosong.com/EWmm/
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>>61935224
>reverse headstock
so close
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>>61935488
no clue about mixing but i like the song anon, it's nice
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>>61935520
YOURE A PICKY BITCH :)
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>>61935488
> Tape on mic stand
Oh yeah, that brings back memories.
Sounds very good, honestly. The vocals are a bit drowned by the guitars in the beginning but that's it.
Then again, I don't know shit about mixing.
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My low E string all of a sudden started sounding like shit. What do?
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>>61935849
It's probably about to break. Destring carefully, and look at the point where it sits on the bridge saddle
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>>61935917
Thanks m8 I'll check it out when I get home for some reason that never crossed my mind
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>>61934542
>>61934173
>going to a store
>not having a shopping agenda
Fucking mallrats.
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>>61931949
You didn't answer the question
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Any tips for running a dual amp bass rig, with a guitar amp and a bass amp?

Like, if I'm going to boost the mids on the bass amp, should I scoop mids on the guitar amp to avoid muddiness? Should I do octave up on the guitar amp? Should dirt be going through both sides, or just the bass side to avoid low end loss?
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>>61934772
>black guys
They stole them.
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>>61936267
If you're planning on sending a bass through a guitar amp, you'd better use a bass cab, bass through guitar speaker damages the speaker.
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>>61936362
That's actually a myth senpai. Totally dependent on how you EQ it
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>>61936426
If you're using a 5 string then it's going to tear through your speakers unless you're using a high pass filter before.
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>fender releasing limited edition jazzcasters
neat, sucks it'll be too expensive to buy
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>>61936489
Not true. Unless you set your guitar head to sound like a bass head, low notes aren't inherently harmful

8 and 9 string guitars are a thing. Octave down pedals are a thing
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>>61936537
wait 2 years and buy a nos discounted model or used
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>>61934772
>Why are Gibson guitars so expensive?
Because completely made by hand in America, even though that's a retarded way of making things now from a cost-to-quality standpoint.
Also because
>muh presteege n Truhdishuns

>How did black guys in the 50s afford them?
They generally didn't, see pic related.

Until their audience became significantly or completely white thanks to the 1960s Blues and R&B boom, most black artists couldn't afford Gibson guitars.
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>>61932613
why will no one answer me baka
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>>61936600
>Because completely made by hand in America,

>implying the wood was made in the us
>implying the atoms were made in the us
>implying the bridges and tail peices weren't made in china
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>>61932020
Sonically I absolutely love both Telecasters and Stratocasters, they both have their own personality and are about as good as it gets when placed in the hands of great musicians. Teles are excellent at what they do and Strats are excellent at what they do, I actually find it quite interesting when they're nudged into each other's respective genre territory. I'd love to hear Clarence White of The Byrds try a Strat on some of his tracks and I'd love to hear Hendrix try a Tele on some of his.

The decision for me mostly came down to playability and which instrument felt better in my hands. I grew up exclusively playing guitars with two pickups, and with that my right hand found a natural resting position by the bridge. That position is slightly different on a Strat and most three pickup guitars, so every time I pick up a Strat I find myself beating the shit out of the middle pickup with my guitar pick and I end up turning the volume down every time I strum. If I adjust my hand to accommodate the Strat layout I no longer feel as comfortable playing and it distracts me from the music.

That being said I'm happy that I've stuck with the Telecaster as a primary instrument, I adore everything about them. They're understated in appearance, utilitarian and refined in setup and electronics, they reveal every little aspect of your playing style, they're very light guitars most of the time, have great necks (although that applies to most flagship Fenders), and they sound absolutely gorgeous on the middle / neck pickup. The modern American Standard stock pickups are just amazing.
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>>61935068
Why are you acting like a medieval villager who just got shown a working light bulb?
>fire with no flint or smoke, and under glass?
>BURN THE WITCH!!!
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>>61934068
Pretty much this.
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>>61936564
Octave down doesn't work the same as a real bass.
8 strings and 9 strings don't have a low B either, and their scale and electronics are different from a bass. Plus most of the time, their users send them through an axe fx instead of an actual amp.
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>>61936119
I didn't, but only because I'm at work.
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>>61934772
>How did black guys in the 50s afford them?
The les paul was discontinued from 1960-1968, literally nobody wanted them and 50s les pauls were cheap as fuck.
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>>61936736
Yep. About the only black guy I know of who had a real 50s Les Paul during that time was Freddie King.
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>>61936698
How does it not? It produces low notes, and you seem to be under the impression that low notes are inherently harmful

8 string tuning:
F# B E A D G B E, many people drop the F# to E, the same E as a bass

9 string tuning:
Same as 8 string but with a low C#. It's safe to assume that the epic djenters who play 9 strings will drop that down to B
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>>61936600
Wasn't Lucille a Gibson? Wikipedia says B.B. got it for $30. Not sure if the price has been converted at all.
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Are there any good <300 usd 5 string p basses?
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>>61936537
Those things are so easy to build though....I bet you could put a really nice one together for less than $500.
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>>61936862
It was, though that first Lucille was an acoustic, and a cheap one at that. Before he went to the famous ES archtops, he played a bunch of different electrics, mostly Fender Telecasters and other more budget-friendly brands, all likewise named Lucille.
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>>61937130
Really? I always thought it was an ES-335.
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>>61936600
Nigga please, all the early swing and jazz guys in the 20s and 30s had expensive as fuck guitars. You have to remember that back then it wasn't crazy to spend a huge amount on an instrument just like the Brass/String guys in the band did.

The notion of guitars needing to be cheap instruments only came after mass production. Back then even a broke ass nigga though an expensive guitar was something worth saving for.
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>>61936673
I'm not. You're the one touting it around because you just spent $200 on a new toy.

Plastic fretboards, microscale, rubber strings, piezo are nothing special and not a new concept. We know how the damn thing works. Stop telling us by rattling off the features list of the product.
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>>61936673
It's more like a medieval knight being shown a toy sword and him telling you to fuck off with your plastic bullshit.
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Can I use baby wipes to clean my fretboard
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Long story short, I'm buying a Squier Classic Vibe in the near future, but I came to realize that I wouldn't be able to notice if I was being sold a lesser model than a Classic Vibe. They have a sticker now I think, but they used to not have it, and there's nothing else that could tell me which model it would actually be.

Sorry if this is a stupid question.
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>>61937597
You should literally be able to tell
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>>61937597
Wouldn't that be illegal?
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>>61937597
The Classic Vibe series guitars have a gold font on the headstock logo. Lower-grade Squier models have an all-black font.
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>>61937597
what kind of store would do this?
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Man, I like Rob Scallon, he's pretty good, but that signature looks awful and cheap.
why the fuck did that baldy fat man get his claws on him ?
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what does /gg/ think about lower-end Taylors, particularly the 114ce? I've tried some Mexican-made Martin's but they kinda suck compared to Taylor's the cost maybe $100 more.
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>>61937446
I guess you can but papers bits might get stuck on the frets
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>>61932613
you in richmond what are you doing tonight do you want to go to a show?
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So, I'm trying to buy a good acoustic but also not spend a shitton of money. I'm looking at a Taylor 110 at the moment. Anyone have any other suggestions? I'm trying to not spend anymore than $600.

Also, anyone use Reverb.com to buy and sell shit? That's where I'm looking for an acoustic. I've found some great deals on used shit.
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>>61937669

The Squier Deluxe also has the gold font, despite being a much lower quality guitar.

Right answer is looking at the serial.
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>>61938220
So does vintage modified.
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>>61937438
>>61937381
But it's not a toy.
It's an actual, professional-level bass.

You're just calling it a toy because it doesn't look the way you think a bass should look, even though it works and sounds exactly the same.
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>>61938220

>look at the serial
>realize it's not a CV
>too nervous and scared of telling that to the vendor
>end up buying a Deluxe for the price of a CV

Wew lads
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>>61938174
seagull has some pretty alright shit
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>>61938275
>bass
>not a toy instrument
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>>61937700
Depends-Do you know of any music store retailers who want to maximize profit and don't care about screwing over the consumers with little to no money? Because those stores would totally do that shit.
But to that end, I guess that's why Fender and Squier put unique finishes on the different tiers of their instruments, so the consumer can tell them apart.
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Is it a meme to hate him?
Any major reasons aside from kiddies growing out of the "shred phase"?
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>>61934771
Anyone know where I could find that exact board?
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>>61938275
Dude those things are cool and all but if you think they're at all close to being a decent substitute for full scale bass then you're delusional.

If you show up to the studio or a gig with one of those things they'll laugh your ass out of the room, no question about it
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>>61938174
I've got a 114ce. It's fucking neat, blows everything in it's pricerange out of the water. I second >>61938310 tho, I tried some seagulls and they have a very comparable tone, playability and feel as the Taylors.
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>>61935917
>>61935849
String change didn't work. I don't know how else to describe the sound except as "muddy"
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>>61931639
If I wanted an electric acoustic on the cheaper side, what price range am I looking at?

I want one that doesn't sound really tin-like.
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>>61938441

vocaroo it clean
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>>61938275
>professional-level bass
An actual guitar wouldn't be professional-level at that price.
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>>61938351
From what I've read in interviews with him and former collaborators he's a dick who has (or used to have) pretty severe issues with alcoholism. His playing can get a bit repetitive after a while and neo-classical shredding is cheesy as fuck.

I mean I personally don't have strong feelings about Malmsteen either way but there you go.
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>>61938351
his wife's instagram
https://www.instagram.com/aprilmalmsteen/?hl=en

his son
https://www.instagram.com/p/ndl0yWD8DR/
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>>61937597
Just take a pic and post it on /gg/ when you're buying it. We're here 24/7 bro.
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>>61938407
Good to know. I wasn't really sold on the 114. I just don't like the body style. Good to know though!
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>>61938483
http://vocaroo.com/i/s0RVBRwZSF7J
Open then every other fret up to the 12th
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>>61938390
Not sure I'd care if he played well.
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>>61938776
And I know its out of tune yes.
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Which one?
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>>61938776

Nigger you are raping the strings with that death grip.
What the fuck is this shit.
If you actually play like that and not just le epic trolling then you deserve your carpal, seriously.

I'm also hearing fret buzz. Fiddled with truss rod and action?
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>>61938933
you take the grill off of a 58 and it magically becomes a 57
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>>61938275
> professional instrument
How do you slap with this?
How do you bend with this?

I'd expect to be able to do that with a "professional-level" bass, let alone a $400 instrument.
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>>61938992
But what gives it a slight bass freq peak?
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>>61939026
>slap
>professional
I don't think you make any money noodling at guitar center, kiddo
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>>61939066
not who you're in a spergy slapfight with but if you think there aren't professional bassists who do a lot of slapping you listen to nothing outside of some /mu/ bullshit
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>>61938978
I wish I was trolling. I didn't touch anything but the strings no other adjustments. You're saying I grip too tight? I kind of overemphasized my fretting for the recording
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>>61938776
what do you call the DYEL of guitar playing?
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>>61939066
This is a professional musician playing a professional instrument. And guess what? He's slapping.
Also, you still haven't told me how to bend with your fisher price bass.
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>>61939279
>>61939279
Pls no bully.
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Picking up a schecter stiletto custom 4 for $180 next week, decent price/instrument? I've never had a bass but slap noodling looks fun (long time guitar player)
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>>61932381

Gibson SG

any electric guitar really, but that's pretty igonic for metal/hard rock
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>>61934213
>>61934322

this is what they're referring to im sure. but it's def not $179, it's $500
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>>61936537
i've seen a few guys with guitars like that, i don't care enough to buy a fender model. i'll wait until they have a Squier version.
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>>61939836
okay i should've watched the video, my bad.
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>MBC-1RS announced
great now I gotta buy another one.
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>>61939932
>MBC-1RS
You already bitched about this yesterday, friend :^) stop being salty.
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Someones asking 380 for a MIM fender tele. Is 280 a reasonable offer? It has a paint chip near the lower bout
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slowly getting black hardware this is all that has arrived so far
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>>61939952
I will continue to be salty, I wish it was available from the start.


it was also early this morning thank you very much.

>>61939342
>being this mad over someone elses instrument
so confused here, Is there a reason? His bass looks interesting at least, great conversation starter especially if he goes to an open mic or something with it. Only thing I can think of is that it'd feel strange to play.
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>>61939836
That's the 6505MH, they're unvealing the 6505 piranha, which is a 20W version of the 6505, but with only a 12AX7, and undetailed power amp section, which I guess is probably going to be SS, whereas the 6505MH has 3 12AX7 in the pre and 2 EL84 in the power amp section.
What I'm surprised of is that both spec wise and price wise, it seems really similar to the Orange Micro Dark Terror, which also is 20w, 12AX7 pre and SS power amp, with three knobs on the facade.
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>>61938933
These are both raw tracks recorded with an SM57, no EQ.

Instrumental acoustic:
http://picosong.com/Ebet/

Acoustic with vocals:
http://picosong.com/EWmm/

I have yet to use an SM58.
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>>61936362

Not true.

Bass destroying guitar amps and speakers is a meme.

The speakers used for guitars simply put have "lower volume" at <60hz. So to hear the fundamental bass boom you turn them up extremely loud while still creating the illusion you don't have enough volume.
It's possible if you keep running the amp perpetually on 10 something will blow but not because you are using bass, it's because you are retard running the amp on 10 all the time.


The other meme is that bass guitar output is so high it'll blow the amp.
That's not how it works.
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>>61939026
>>61939342

>slap
Can't really be done with a piezo pickup, as I'm sure you already knew.
But if you're so hung up on slapping, then I guess you don't consider a P bass "pro-level" either, since it also doesn't do slapping well.
>bend
Easy, use the same technique as classical bassists and roll your fingers up and down the fretboard.

Stay assblasted, faggot.
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So anyone been able to try running a bass through one of the new bassbreakers?
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>>61938814
Nigga it's out of tune
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>>61940652
You can't do anything with that "pickup". This is some serious buyer's remorse. Do you actually think that thing is worth even half of what you paid for it?
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invited to a folk band, they usually play pubs etc.

wish me luck anons
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>>61940652

>P bass
>doesn't do slapping well

LOL
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>>61940975
It's less suited than a J bridge PU, but yeah it's highly doable on bass, and I'm not even a bassist.
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>>61939342
No reason other than calling any $400 bass a professional level instrument.
It is interesting though, and I can see a few uses for it.
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Who needs bass when you got extended range guitars anyway?
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>>61941068
this desu
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>>61941068
>Meshuggah has a bass player
>Animals as leaders uses bass in studio
>Dream Theater has an ERG and still uses a bassist
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>>61931639
fingering A minor

>>61937597
just familiarize yourself with the CV line before you go the store? they definitely have their own look.

>>61940097
you want to take off $100 from a mim tele because of a paint chip? not gonna happen. you're gonna pay at least $300.
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>>61940824
This.
It's advertised as a guitar amp on the Fender website though. In fact, a youtube reviewer said that it was more or less a copy of a Marshall Bluesbreaker ( which would make sense namewise)
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>>61941264
yeah, i'm just curious since they say it's heavily based on the bassman
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Why can't I get palm muting down? The saddles always dig into my hand and if I go any further over it feels awkward
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>>61941735

The arm rests on the strings, doesn't push.
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>tfw years of self learning and still can't do shit like sweeping

What the fuck man.
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>yfw 90% of your tone is about how hard you strike the strings and the angle of the pick
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>>61942006
>not even two years and I can do it
It's just dedication and practice, there's no real secret to it.
I play something like 3 hours a day though.
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Hey, has anybody had experience with Kahler trems w/ string clamps? I want to add it to a guitar without removing the nut, so I think a blamp would be ideal, but I don't know how well the tuning would hold.
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Just came from a guitar thread in /b/. Liked it so I thought I'd find more. This is Music Man's Sterling AX40.
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>>61942601
Hey thats the guitar I based my homemade brown one off of!
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>>61942601
Just took a look at the thread, seems very polite compared to /gg/ sometimes kek.
Be advised kind anon.

BTW very nice guitar, I own an Ernie Ball and it's my bae.
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>>61940118
liking the aesthetics
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Gibson's nitro is so fucking sticky. it gets gunky so easily if your hands sweat. Almost considering selling my guitar because of this tbqh family.
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Self taught players: do you regret not taking lessons from the beginning?
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>>61942668
>that talman
im still fuckin jealous
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>>61943011
No. I regret not taking it as seriously as it should but i'm still young and capable to catch up.
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>>61942893
Sand the neck senpai
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>>61943011
No, but I took viola lessons for like 10 years so I had a decent starting point
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>>61943011
Not really, if I was taking lessons I probably wouldn't have even kept with it because I would have some dude get annoyed when I said I didn't practice because I was busy with life
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>>61942006
I put in a lot of time working on sweeps and they're complete shit. At one point I could tell they were getting a little closer and more fluid.

If anything just work on three string sweeps every time. Those sound like they have vastly more utility than five or six string.
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>>61943091
I'm considering it. but then I would ruin the value when I could just sell it and get something I'm completely happy with.

It's just this guitar too, I havent had any problem with vintage Gibsons or newer Fenders. This one was made in the 90s..Maybe they had shit nitro during those years.
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>>61943068
I don't play it too much to be honest. I really need to make it feel loved, but I'm having too much fun with the MBC-1. If you lived anywhere near me I'd loan it to you so you could paly it, but it DOES need a swap of pickup selector soon, this one is rusty and getting pretty old.
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>>61943198
True.
I hate the thick finishes as well. If you want a neck that feels bare, check out Music Man guitars
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>>61943397
those american elite thinlines are so nice

also what do you people think of the magnificent 7?
the super lightweight telecasters seem really neat
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>>61932020
>single coil or single coil
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How do i get good actually good at guitar lads? Been playing for years, even been in a couple of bands but not going to pretend I'm not basically an average-poor guitarist

Is there any good books or even like online lesson type things i can follow and actually make some consistent progress?

or just whatever really, advice appreciated
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>>61943397
>that blue burst
Jesus christ I want it and I don't even play many strats
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post what you're jamming to right now.

https://clyp.it/kpfi330i
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Is it too laye to learn how to play at 19? And if you don't know anything where do you start from? I am clueless, sorry.
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>>61940216
>We want the Micro Dark Terror players.

No but seriously. There's an under-served market for high-gain, low-wattage valve amps. It's a no-brainer.
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>>61943779
sorry you're not allowed anymore
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>>61943779
No. You can play guitar at any age.
Learn the basic chords first, play along with chords and lyrics to your fave songs til you get rhythm.
Enjoy it.
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>>61943779
honestly i'd find a teacher, if you dont have a guitar get a high end squier if you can afford that, otherwise just get a starter pack at your local shop. start with something simple like a tele or a strat style, maybe a les paul if you can find one cheap.
make sure your teacher is spending more time letting you play and watching you than stopping ou constantly to demo stuff himself. he needs to make sure you understand things before you move on, and if he's not teaching you some amount of theory then drop him. most teachers will offer like a free half hour intro thing so dont be afraid about that.
also make sure the guitar shop sets up the guitar when you get it, itll make it playable.
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>>61943779
Too late anon
should have started when you were 2 months old tbqh
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>>61943866
>>61943903
>>61943960
>>61943964
Thank you everyone. You are all nice people! I feel more determined now.
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>>61943779
Get lessons, I started last year at 18 and they've helped loads.
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>>61943960
why do people seriously recommend "whatever squire/starter pack the shop wants to sell you"? I would think by now people would know only the most expensive squires are worth having without the usual cheap guitar "fix everything" approach. Not that I dislike the fix everything approach but if you're gonna do that why bother with the squire price/feature ratio.
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>>61944136
because a guitar is a guitar, and they come with an amp, strap, cable, gig bag etc. it's just a basic setup, and besides, some stores will offer an upgrade on the guitar
just a cheap 'in' so to speak
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>>61941849
I know. That doesn't help me at all.
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Want to start playing bass for shits and giggles, would a bass from RondoMusic be OK for just messing around with when I need a break from regular guitar?
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>>61944412
yeah but the people here are just going to get mad at you
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>>61944412
dude whatever works. if you dont wanna invest heavily go nuts.
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>>61944433
I don't care they are elitist cunts.
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>>61944136
>>61944221
I started on a starter pack when I was 10 and I'm still playing today. That setup got replaced after a few years of improvement but the guitar NEVER held me back and never needed a single mod. Action was always great, it stayed in tune, and the electronics worked. I don't see what the problem is with reccing those to newbs.
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>>61944566
That was my train of thought as well.
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>MBC-1RS
damn son.. was saving for a taylor. ah well
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>>61931639
>having a jam session with a guy across the hall from me
>30 minutes in he calls a bunch of girls and tells them to all come in and watch us play guitar
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>>61938275
You have a small practice tool. Nothing more. Not giggable. Not much different than a Kala U Bass.
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>>61944595
Sounds like you lucked out on the guitar, some of those are just awful.
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Schechter guitar research c-1 got it free so wont complain .
>desu it plays and feels very good for 200$ Chinese guitar. Maybe i got lucky
Desired gear is gibson explorer
I can get fender custom shop scalloped neck , Seymour pups and hard shell case for 400$ not sure if worth though.
>playing for 4 months as a hobby , thinking to get more serious since i spend all of my free time playing
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>>61944812
>scalloped neck
my nigga. Have you played on one before? I advise you do just in case you dont like it. people here think its just MUH SHREDZ but it's actually much more comfortable than most necks I've played on
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I need a lightweight, inexpensive guitar. Something that only weighs 5-6 lbs. My Jazzmaster is too fucking heavy for a 2 hour band practice. What the fuck should I get. Should I just get some dinky little Teisco, a Jackson, or a cheap Mustang copy or something?
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Oh so you all reply to this fuccboi, >>61943779
, but not me (>>61943559)??

Fuck you guys, I'll fuck you all up
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>>61944412
honestly they are fine. When you want a nicer bass get a fret job and new pickups.
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>>61944913
Buy a stool and sit down.
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>>61944922
You don't need advice you need attention. Call your mom or something.
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>>61944685
If you get the RS I'll trade you
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>>61944944
I'm not going to sit down at band practice.
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>>61944993
Nah i genuinely would like to know if there's any good resources out there for structurally moving on from standard 'i can play some chords'-stuff to actually being a good guitarist.

You got any advice friendo?
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>>61944993
PS FUK U M8, 1V1 ME IRL
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>>61945022
nah :^)
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>>61945091
>I'd rather spend over around a thousand bucks to play on something that sounds like shit instead of spending 5$ for a steat
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I have a $500 budget, what's the best acoustic I can get for the money. I've been thinking of a Seagull.
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>>61944913
Gym Membershipcaster
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>>61940926
No buyers remorse on my end-I like what I bought.
It's you who keeps saying "it's a toy", "it's not a real instrument" etc.
and yes, I do think it's worth what I paid. If I wanted to, I could turn it around tonight and make money.
But I don't want to.
It's something new to learn, a new challenge, and I can make it sound pretty good, even at this early date.

>>61941044
>Jack Bruce
>not a pro
Nope
He played one on "Kwela" here (starts at 31:08)
http://youtu.be/lDnZC6FcSzw

>Tony Levin
>not a pro
Nope
He played one on Peter Gabriel's "Lovetown"
http://youtu.be/MrjuxgQVxiE
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>>61941068
People who don't want their bands to sound like shit.
But I get it-you're just not that guy.
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>>61944913
[spoiler]parker fly :^))[/spoiler]
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I remember from the thread earlier this morning that there was a post about choosing your pedalboard for $400 and what you'd put on it

My choices
Devi Ever Hyperion - $80
Digitech Whammy - $150
EHXtortion - $160

Basically the shit I already have. Other options would be probably going for a TS-9, Hyperion, a reverb (like the EHX holy grail) and a Crybaby Wah - if it was just a general use board and not one that was more suited to my wants.

>>61945122
I tried. I do want pictures if you get one, I love the look of the Santacaster. Think I might get myself one later on this year anyways with a sustainiac in it
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>>61941068
who needs an ERG when you can just buy a Baritone since you're a basic bitch fucktard who only plays on two strings anyway?

>inb4 b-b-but TOSIN ABASI
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>>61945200
I'm a girl, I'm small :/

inb4 hilarious meme
L O N D O N
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D
O
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>>61945340
Just fuck my Shit up
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>>61945340
I said inexpensive, can you not read. why would I want to spend 600 on something so hideous
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>>61944913
An Ibanez S series, or a low end Parker, or a smaller bodied semihollow
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>>61945371
Find a used Talman if you like the shape/sound of lipsticks.

Try out an SG maybe, or definitely a Jaguar if you are into that kind of tone.
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>>61945356
>who the fuck is steve vai
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What's a good acoustic 12 string I can get for under $1000? Or am I just better off going into the local store and trying out everything?
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>>61945371
stay poor nerd.
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>>61945440
Taylor 150e
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>>61945435
a hack

any more questions

>>61945440
>inb4 Taylor
NO

a Guild Westerly
or a Seagull coastline(and another guitar or something since they're like 600)
or a Breedlove
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>>61945441
Stay havin shit taste
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>>61944935
Awesome. Into the carts it goes. Don't worry faggots I won't post Any pictures of it.
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>>61945435
a talentless hack
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>>61945560
You sure got me anon. I have to go to the ER now to take care of those sick burns.
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>>61945507
What's wrong with Taylors? Jack Rose played them and he had godlike tone.
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>>61934686
Bump pls or does anyone know if there's any other economically priced hot rail style pickups
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>>61944732
>"not giggable"
Yes it is.
It may not be the best thing for metal (because really-what kind of faggot uses a fretless bass for metal?) but it's fine for any and all situations where a fretless bass is suitable.
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>>61945781
his shit is way too bright, like every other taylor

the problem is even worse with 12 strings
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>>61945795
>it's fine for any and all situations where a fretless bass is suitable.
What is even the practical purpose of fretless guitars/basses besides being wanked on by "virtuosos"? I mean I can see the creative potential in them but I've never heard them used well.
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>>61945795
>(because really-what kind of faggot uses a fretless bass for metal?)
Oh boy you don't know how wrong you are.
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=aHA8JyIzaBE
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=8256VJ4hkJU
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=NBgJQfzLDig
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=wRTEUHPnulU
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>sundelly my guitar plays smooth as fuck
>feels good man
>in a matter of hours it becomes a pain in the ass to play it
>mfw my guitar is a rich bitch girl
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>>61940969
Good luck senpai
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Got a Marshall this week.
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>>61933387
sort of true, but when someone says "I'm a guitarist" what I usually hear is "I'm a noodler who can play a few chords, I know nothing about theory, and I mostly just want to impress girls"

In other words, it's true 98% of the time, but that other 2% can't be disregarded, because good rhythm guitar is a real talent.
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>>61946021
Right the former is me though, what are good resources that will help me actually become a good guitarist though?
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>>61934632
St Vincent is beautiful.

Her guitar... is not.

Still kinda interesting looking though
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>>61934632
I want one so bad.
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>>61945830
>way too bright
I kind of like that, actually. Better than being muddy like most dreads are. I play fingerstyle using thumbpick + fingertips so I kind of need a bright guitar for the melody strings to cut through properly.
also
>dose overtones
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https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=qKtlsps4SqY

lol
watch what this fucking fender 'tech' does for truss rod adjustment on this old bass
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Someone sell me a jazzmaster
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>>61945898
>all those links
I thought you would be trying to disprove my point, not confirm it.
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>>61934686
I took a chance on the Dragon Fire hotrails. They have pretty high output, mid range heavy sound. They sound great in my cheap washburn strat. I think the money was worth it.
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>>61945360
get a better strap, it makes a big difference. One of those giant leather ones or a mega strap. If your hands are also small consider a 7/8 version of a strat or something, that should be a 24" scale but will have a smaller body and more narrow neck. sx makes some.
>They even have purple, just4u
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>>61945607
believe it or not even sx haters want to see more pics in this thread on new bass day
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>>61945846
Jazz fusion where it's not quite upright territory. Esperanza Spalding uses fretless very well and Victor Wooten has some nice non-wanking stuff with fretless in Flecktones stuff. Usually an upright is more suitable.
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>>61945782
gfs pickups
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>>61945846
honestly it's just got a little more utility than a fretted bass. You can take it as far as you want, or you can just play bass. It's pretty fun to play in my opinion as well.
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>>61945360
Basswood is lighter, also as someone said look for an Ibanez S series. Nita Strauss plays those.
>>61946339
This too.
And finally stop saying ur a grill. Just don't. Some of us don't give a fuck about gender and the rest will meme you.
>>61946002
Jcm800
Nice!
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>>61946416
gfs pickups are awesome.
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>>61946002
Any reason you got a 2210 over a 2203 or 2204? The latter two sound significantly better.
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GFS or

You can get Artec pickups for even cheaper than GFS sometimes on amazon

GFS are rebranded Artecs
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>>61946255
if this is about him tilting the neck there's nothing wrong with it. I would have loosened the strings though. Also, I apply pressure on the neck in the direction I am adjusting to reduce the chance of stripping the nut.
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>>61946665
I wouldn't be surprised if a few of the pickups were artecs, but I don't think the majority are. Where'd you hear this?
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>>61946255
why the fuck woudnt he just use and angled screwdriver or remove the pickguard?
that looked super bad for screws and the neck joint in general. might be fine if you've been doing this for decades and are going through them rapidly or something, but what the fuck don't even show that. don't encourage it. jfc.
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new thread

>>61946856
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>>61931639
Is that supposed to look like that one album or what
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