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Floyd Rose Setup Video Tutorial:
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Steve Vai's Ten Hour Workout
Guthrie Govan's Creative Guitar 1 & 2
Impulse Response Pack
Free VST downloads (amps and effects simulators):
ASIO drivers (essential to use VSTs while playing):
>Advancing Guitarist Mick Goodrick
>Chord Chemistry - Ted Greene
>Mickey Baker's Jazz Guitar
>Modern Chord Progressions: Jazz and Classical Voicings for Guitar - Ted Greene
>Jazz Guitar: Single Note Soloing Vol. 1 & 2- Ted Greene
>Beefhearts 10 guitar commandments
Also as a result of the rubber strings, there's practically no tension on the neck, so it doesn't need a truss rod. As a result, the bass only cost $400 new.
Also that picture doesn't show it, but this thing is about 3" shorter than a normal guitar and weighs 2 pounds.
reposting from previous thread for answer.
i have a prs se 24 can i downtune it to d standard without worrying about spring tension or will it fuck up my tuning completely?
also if i do it will i need to readjust the springs after i go back to the basic tuning or it should be fine?
Fretless bass with silicone rubber gasket cord for strings.
Showed it to my parents, they said "that looks like a toy!" Then I plugged it in and played a little and their jaws dropped.
Is this thing seriously 400$ ? Fretless doesn't even take more work to build, you could buy a used squier, defret it yourself and swap the pickups and end up with a better sounding result.
Because there's no need to.
The piezo element doesn't care what the string is made of as long as it vibrates, and lots of things vibrate at bass guitar frequencies.
People asked about it, dipshit.
That's why I'm talking about it.
That's $400 for a fretless bass with multiple unique parts and tooling, active electronics because of the piezo, and selling at full retail.
If you think that's a lot for a decent bass you need to find a job.
>le internet tough guy
No you wouldn't. You're too much of a pussy to do that.
They were $400 at full retail. I found mine for $200 used locally.
Best guitar suited for metal but can do other stuff as well?
> If you think that's a lot for a decent bass you need to find a job.
Except it's not nowhere near decent for that price : 18" scale, made of agathis and plastic, piezo pickups, silicone strings
It's a cool toy at best but other than that, i fail to see the point of having one of these.
If you're using a different string gauge that will give you the exact same tension in your new tuning, no.
If you're using the same strings then yes, you will need to loosen the spring tension slightly to keep the bridge level.
how do i achieve this tone
I posted this last thread and someone told me to look at the headstock but I can't make out the brand name, so can anyone ID the guitar she's playing? Thanks babes
what do you do when you practiced to much and your fingers hurt as fuck but you want to keep going?
opinions on the s series guitars and zr trems?
I know everybody likes rgs but literally see no discussion on the s series
They're incredibly thin, I tried one in a store and boy it feels like you've got nothing on the lap. I also love having an HSH config.
The only thing I really hate about those is the fucking switch, it's so ugly.
Otherwise it feels pretty much like a lighter and more versatile RG.
Can't say anything on the trem though.
What song would you choose as your entrance theme as you walk into a Guitar Center to own noobs?
this is my choice
>Peavey making a 20w 6505 head to compete with the Tiny Terror
>It's US $179
>Also making a 1x18 subwoofer to go with a 1x12 speaker
This NAMM is so exciting
>based on the L5
>but scaled down and laminate
For what purpose?
Also, why are thinline archtops desirable? Don't archtop folks all want bigger archtops, claiming depth changes the tone or some other quality of the sound?
I'm betting it'll have all sorts of QC issues at this price if it's an all tube head.
If it doesn't, that'll be impressive. Hopefully retailers won't take ages to start selling them where I live.
The 1x18" subwoofer seems really interesting though.
That's all you need. It's smooth as can be, the silicone strings aren't going to wear it out, and plastic is both more temperature stable and cheaper to boot.
>tonewood matters on an instrument equipped only with a piezo
Plus, you don't have to worry about your fretboard not being smooth.
>it'd look better in a more conventional size and shape
Perhaps, but they tried that already and it didn't sell.
It's already a special snowflake guitar-if you're going to own one, you might as well embrace the flakiness. Besides, the weird shape and short scale length lends itself very well to playing while sitting on the couch or in a chair. Much more so than a "regularly" shaped electric bass.
You're not wrong.
If it's just your fingertips, dip them in ice water for a couple of minutes.
If it's the tendons in your hand, it's time to take a break.
Laminates feedback a lot less. I like thinline archtops because they give you the plugged in sound of a full body archtop without the huge body. They're just comfy instruments. They definitely don't sound as good acoustically though. A Gibson Byrdland is basically a thinline shortscale L5 and it sounds great, even unplugged it's not bad.
Given a choice I would still play a full depth 17" archtop though, but that's only because I like my guitar to be loud acoustically.
Just bought a second-hand Fender American Special Tele for £480 (pic related). Did I do good?
I don't go into Guitar Center to "own noobs"
When I'm trying out gear there I keep it turned down. Unless I'm planning on buying an amp. then I take it in the sound room.
I get people watching me and asking my advice on stuff all the time after playing though
>they give you the plugged in sound of a full body archtop without the huge body.
Maybe I'm biased. I like a very specific sound I've heard in jazz guitar, which is that little percussive bit at the beginning of notes like Joe Pass or Tal Farlow got. I've never heard a thinline get that sort of Joe Pass' Joy Spring percussive "thunk" sound, much less the almost offensive levels of that percussive element that Tal Farlow got. Seems like a sound that only comes from ES-175s, ES-125s, ES-350s, and Gibson Tal Farlows, all big, hollow, laminate archtops.
Alright /gg/, you have $400 to assemble the best pedalboard possible. I'll be judging you on brand names and diversity of effects.
I think you can get that sound out of Thinline Hollowbodies. They're still pretty loud acoustically, especially some of the Gibsons like the Byrdland, ES-350t etc..
What do you think of Grant Green's tone?
Well, shit, that's definitely got that the percussive element to it. Maybe I should start looking at thinline ES-175s because full-depth ones are fucking big.
Steve Vai can rock that Rockstar look though. When I'm 40 I'm going to be bald and fat and just plain right ugly.
It just seems to weird playing an RG then. It's like, imagine your dad wearing skinny jeans man.
Yeah, and he was using an ES-330 there which is about as thin as it gets. I used to have an Epiphone casino that could nail that sound, for me the secret to that sound is a rosewood/ebony bridge + thick flatwound strings.
Thinline es-175s are pretty rare, but sometimes you can find thinline ES-125s that have been modified for humbuckers and you can get them for way cheap and you can't beat a 1950s Gibson.. I'm looking for one myself to replace the Casino.
Working on a track with a couple of friends, very basic home recording. Looking for comments/feedback on the mix. It's all raw tracks right now besides a small amount of reverb on the vocals, no EQ yet, and an empty section towards the end where a solo will be.
So far I know I'll have to tame the bass back quite a bit on the primary guitar track.
Track starts at 6 seconds:
> Tape on mic stand
Oh yeah, that brings back memories.
Sounds very good, honestly. The vocals are a bit drowned by the guitars in the beginning but that's it.
Then again, I don't know shit about mixing.
Any tips for running a dual amp bass rig, with a guitar amp and a bass amp?
Like, if I'm going to boost the mids on the bass amp, should I scoop mids on the guitar amp to avoid muddiness? Should I do octave up on the guitar amp? Should dirt be going through both sides, or just the bass side to avoid low end loss?
>fender releasing limited edition jazzcasters
neat, sucks it'll be too expensive to buy
>Why are Gibson guitars so expensive?
Because completely made by hand in America, even though that's a retarded way of making things now from a cost-to-quality standpoint.
>muh presteege n Truhdishuns
>How did black guys in the 50s afford them?
They generally didn't, see pic related.
Until their audience became significantly or completely white thanks to the 1960s Blues and R&B boom, most black artists couldn't afford Gibson guitars.
>Because completely made by hand in America,
>implying the wood was made in the us
>implying the atoms were made in the us
>implying the bridges and tail peices weren't made in china
Sonically I absolutely love both Telecasters and Stratocasters, they both have their own personality and are about as good as it gets when placed in the hands of great musicians. Teles are excellent at what they do and Strats are excellent at what they do, I actually find it quite interesting when they're nudged into each other's respective genre territory. I'd love to hear Clarence White of The Byrds try a Strat on some of his tracks and I'd love to hear Hendrix try a Tele on some of his.
The decision for me mostly came down to playability and which instrument felt better in my hands. I grew up exclusively playing guitars with two pickups, and with that my right hand found a natural resting position by the bridge. That position is slightly different on a Strat and most three pickup guitars, so every time I pick up a Strat I find myself beating the shit out of the middle pickup with my guitar pick and I end up turning the volume down every time I strum. If I adjust my hand to accommodate the Strat layout I no longer feel as comfortable playing and it distracts me from the music.
That being said I'm happy that I've stuck with the Telecaster as a primary instrument, I adore everything about them. They're understated in appearance, utilitarian and refined in setup and electronics, they reveal every little aspect of your playing style, they're very light guitars most of the time, have great necks (although that applies to most flagship Fenders), and they sound absolutely gorgeous on the middle / neck pickup. The modern American Standard stock pickups are just amazing.
Octave down doesn't work the same as a real bass.
8 strings and 9 strings don't have a low B either, and their scale and electronics are different from a bass. Plus most of the time, their users send them through an axe fx instead of an actual amp.
How does it not? It produces low notes, and you seem to be under the impression that low notes are inherently harmful
8 string tuning:
F# B E A D G B E, many people drop the F# to E, the same E as a bass
9 string tuning:
Same as 8 string but with a low C#. It's safe to assume that the epic djenters who play 9 strings will drop that down to B
It was, though that first Lucille was an acoustic, and a cheap one at that. Before he went to the famous ES archtops, he played a bunch of different electrics, mostly Fender Telecasters and other more budget-friendly brands, all likewise named Lucille.
Nigga please, all the early swing and jazz guys in the 20s and 30s had expensive as fuck guitars. You have to remember that back then it wasn't crazy to spend a huge amount on an instrument just like the Brass/String guys in the band did.
The notion of guitars needing to be cheap instruments only came after mass production. Back then even a broke ass nigga though an expensive guitar was something worth saving for.
I'm not. You're the one touting it around because you just spent $200 on a new toy.
Plastic fretboards, microscale, rubber strings, piezo are nothing special and not a new concept. We know how the damn thing works. Stop telling us by rattling off the features list of the product.
Long story short, I'm buying a Squier Classic Vibe in the near future, but I came to realize that I wouldn't be able to notice if I was being sold a lesser model than a Classic Vibe. They have a sticker now I think, but they used to not have it, and there's nothing else that could tell me which model it would actually be.
Sorry if this is a stupid question.
Man, I like Rob Scallon, he's pretty good, but that signature looks awful and cheap.
why the fuck did that baldy fat man get his claws on him ?
So, I'm trying to buy a good acoustic but also not spend a shitton of money. I'm looking at a Taylor 110 at the moment. Anyone have any other suggestions? I'm trying to not spend anymore than $600.
Also, anyone use Reverb.com to buy and sell shit? That's where I'm looking for an acoustic. I've found some great deals on used shit.
But it's not a toy.
It's an actual, professional-level bass.
You're just calling it a toy because it doesn't look the way you think a bass should look, even though it works and sounds exactly the same.
Depends-Do you know of any music store retailers who want to maximize profit and don't care about screwing over the consumers with little to no money? Because those stores would totally do that shit.
But to that end, I guess that's why Fender and Squier put unique finishes on the different tiers of their instruments, so the consumer can tell them apart.
Is it a meme to hate him?
Any major reasons aside from kiddies growing out of the "shred phase"?
Dude those things are cool and all but if you think they're at all close to being a decent substitute for full scale bass then you're delusional.
If you show up to the studio or a gig with one of those things they'll laugh your ass out of the room, no question about it
I've got a 114ce. It's fucking neat, blows everything in it's pricerange out of the water. I second >>61938310 tho, I tried some seagulls and they have a very comparable tone, playability and feel as the Taylors.
From what I've read in interviews with him and former collaborators he's a dick who has (or used to have) pretty severe issues with alcoholism. His playing can get a bit repetitive after a while and neo-classical shredding is cheesy as fuck.
I mean I personally don't have strong feelings about Malmsteen either way but there you go.
Nigger you are raping the strings with that death grip.
What the fuck is this shit.
If you actually play like that and not just le epic trolling then you deserve your carpal, seriously.
I'm also hearing fret buzz. Fiddled with truss rod and action?
you take the grill off of a 58 and it magically becomes a 57
This is a professional musician playing a professional instrument. And guess what? He's slapping.
Also, you still haven't told me how to bend with your fisher price bass.
this is what they're referring to im sure. but it's def not $179, it's $500
great now I gotta buy another one.
slowly getting black hardware this is all that has arrived so far
I will continue to be salty, I wish it was available from the start.
it was also early this morning thank you very much.
>being this mad over someone elses instrument
so confused here, Is there a reason? His bass looks interesting at least, great conversation starter especially if he goes to an open mic or something with it. Only thing I can think of is that it'd feel strange to play.
That's the 6505MH, they're unvealing the 6505 piranha, which is a 20W version of the 6505, but with only a 12AX7, and undetailed power amp section, which I guess is probably going to be SS, whereas the 6505MH has 3 12AX7 in the pre and 2 EL84 in the power amp section.
What I'm surprised of is that both spec wise and price wise, it seems really similar to the Orange Micro Dark Terror, which also is 20w, 12AX7 pre and SS power amp, with three knobs on the facade.
Bass destroying guitar amps and speakers is a meme.
The speakers used for guitars simply put have "lower volume" at <60hz. So to hear the fundamental bass boom you turn them up extremely loud while still creating the illusion you don't have enough volume.
It's possible if you keep running the amp perpetually on 10 something will blow but not because you are using bass, it's because you are retard running the amp on 10 all the time.
The other meme is that bass guitar output is so high it'll blow the amp.
That's not how it works.
Can't really be done with a piezo pickup, as I'm sure you already knew.
But if you're so hung up on slapping, then I guess you don't consider a P bass "pro-level" either, since it also doesn't do slapping well.
Easy, use the same technique as classical bassists and roll your fingers up and down the fretboard.
Stay assblasted, faggot.
fingering A minor
just familiarize yourself with the CV line before you go the store? they definitely have their own look.
you want to take off $100 from a mim tele because of a paint chip? not gonna happen. you're gonna pay at least $300.
It's advertised as a guitar amp on the Fender website though. In fact, a youtube reviewer said that it was more or less a copy of a Marshall Bluesbreaker ( which would make sense namewise)
Hey, has anybody had experience with Kahler trems w/ string clamps? I want to add it to a guitar without removing the nut, so I think a blamp would be ideal, but I don't know how well the tuning would hold.
Just came from a guitar thread in /b/. Liked it so I thought I'd find more. This is Music Man's Sterling AX40.
Hey thats the guitar I based my homemade brown one off of!
Gibson's nitro is so fucking sticky. it gets gunky so easily if your hands sweat. Almost considering selling my guitar because of this tbqh family.
Not really, if I was taking lessons I probably wouldn't have even kept with it because I would have some dude get annoyed when I said I didn't practice because I was busy with life
I put in a lot of time working on sweeps and they're complete shit. At one point I could tell they were getting a little closer and more fluid.
If anything just work on three string sweeps every time. Those sound like they have vastly more utility than five or six string.
I'm considering it. but then I would ruin the value when I could just sell it and get something I'm completely happy with.
It's just this guitar too, I havent had any problem with vintage Gibsons or newer Fenders. This one was made in the 90s..Maybe they had shit nitro during those years.
I don't play it too much to be honest. I really need to make it feel loved, but I'm having too much fun with the MBC-1. If you lived anywhere near me I'd loan it to you so you could paly it, but it DOES need a swap of pickup selector soon, this one is rusty and getting pretty old.
How do i get good actually good at guitar lads? Been playing for years, even been in a couple of bands but not going to pretend I'm not basically an average-poor guitarist
Is there any good books or even like online lesson type things i can follow and actually make some consistent progress?
or just whatever really, advice appreciated
>that blue burst
Jesus christ I want it and I don't even play many strats
honestly i'd find a teacher, if you dont have a guitar get a high end squier if you can afford that, otherwise just get a starter pack at your local shop. start with something simple like a tele or a strat style, maybe a les paul if you can find one cheap.
make sure your teacher is spending more time letting you play and watching you than stopping ou constantly to demo stuff himself. he needs to make sure you understand things before you move on, and if he's not teaching you some amount of theory then drop him. most teachers will offer like a free half hour intro thing so dont be afraid about that.
also make sure the guitar shop sets up the guitar when you get it, itll make it playable.
why do people seriously recommend "whatever squire/starter pack the shop wants to sell you"? I would think by now people would know only the most expensive squires are worth having without the usual cheap guitar "fix everything" approach. Not that I dislike the fix everything approach but if you're gonna do that why bother with the squire price/feature ratio.
because a guitar is a guitar, and they come with an amp, strap, cable, gig bag etc. it's just a basic setup, and besides, some stores will offer an upgrade on the guitar
just a cheap 'in' so to speak
I started on a starter pack when I was 10 and I'm still playing today. That setup got replaced after a few years of improvement but the guitar NEVER held me back and never needed a single mod. Action was always great, it stayed in tune, and the electronics worked. I don't see what the problem is with reccing those to newbs.
>having a jam session with a guy across the hall from me
>30 minutes in he calls a bunch of girls and tells them to all come in and watch us play guitar
Schechter guitar research c-1 got it free so wont complain .
>desu it plays and feels very good for 200$ Chinese guitar. Maybe i got lucky
Desired gear is gibson explorer
I can get fender custom shop scalloped neck , Seymour pups and hard shell case for 400$ not sure if worth though.
>playing for 4 months as a hobby , thinking to get more serious since i spend all of my free time playing
my nigga. Have you played on one before? I advise you do just in case you dont like it. people here think its just MUH SHREDZ but it's actually much more comfortable than most necks I've played on
I need a lightweight, inexpensive guitar. Something that only weighs 5-6 lbs. My Jazzmaster is too fucking heavy for a 2 hour band practice. What the fuck should I get. Should I just get some dinky little Teisco, a Jackson, or a cheap Mustang copy or something?
If you get the RS I'll trade you
Nah i genuinely would like to know if there's any good resources out there for structurally moving on from standard 'i can play some chords'-stuff to actually being a good guitarist.
You got any advice friendo?
No buyers remorse on my end-I like what I bought.
It's you who keeps saying "it's a toy", "it's not a real instrument" etc.
and yes, I do think it's worth what I paid. If I wanted to, I could turn it around tonight and make money.
But I don't want to.
It's something new to learn, a new challenge, and I can make it sound pretty good, even at this early date.
>not a pro
He played one on "Kwela" here (starts at 31:08)
>not a pro
He played one on Peter Gabriel's "Lovetown"
I remember from the thread earlier this morning that there was a post about choosing your pedalboard for $400 and what you'd put on it
Devi Ever Hyperion - $80
Digitech Whammy - $150
EHXtortion - $160
Basically the shit I already have. Other options would be probably going for a TS-9, Hyperion, a reverb (like the EHX holy grail) and a Crybaby Wah - if it was just a general use board and not one that was more suited to my wants.
I tried. I do want pictures if you get one, I love the look of the Santacaster. Think I might get myself one later on this year anyways with a sustainiac in it
Yes it is.
It may not be the best thing for metal (because really-what kind of faggot uses a fretless bass for metal?) but it's fine for any and all situations where a fretless bass is suitable.
>it's fine for any and all situations where a fretless bass is suitable.
What is even the practical purpose of fretless guitars/basses besides being wanked on by "virtuosos"? I mean I can see the creative potential in them but I've never heard them used well.
>(because really-what kind of faggot uses a fretless bass for metal?)
Oh boy you don't know how wrong you are.
sort of true, but when someone says "I'm a guitarist" what I usually hear is "I'm a noodler who can play a few chords, I know nothing about theory, and I mostly just want to impress girls"
In other words, it's true 98% of the time, but that other 2% can't be disregarded, because good rhythm guitar is a real talent.
>way too bright
I kind of like that, actually. Better than being muddy like most dreads are. I play fingerstyle using thumbpick + fingertips so I kind of need a bright guitar for the melody strings to cut through properly.
watch what this fucking fender 'tech' does for truss rod adjustment on this old bass
>all those links
I thought you would be trying to disprove my point, not confirm it.
get a better strap, it makes a big difference. One of those giant leather ones or a mega strap. If your hands are also small consider a 7/8 version of a strat or something, that should be a 24" scale but will have a smaller body and more narrow neck. sx makes some.
>They even have purple, just4u
Jazz fusion where it's not quite upright territory. Esperanza Spalding uses fretless very well and Victor Wooten has some nice non-wanking stuff with fretless in Flecktones stuff. Usually an upright is more suitable.
Basswood is lighter, also as someone said look for an Ibanez S series. Nita Strauss plays those.
And finally stop saying ur a grill. Just don't. Some of us don't give a fuck about gender and the rest will meme you.
if this is about him tilting the neck there's nothing wrong with it. I would have loosened the strings though. Also, I apply pressure on the neck in the direction I am adjusting to reduce the chance of stripping the nut.
why the fuck woudnt he just use and angled screwdriver or remove the pickguard?
that looked super bad for screws and the neck joint in general. might be fine if you've been doing this for decades and are going through them rapidly or something, but what the fuck don't even show that. don't encourage it. jfc.