That moment when punk, post punk, and melody united to form a new somewhat under the radar revolutionary sound that laid the foundation for late 80'/early 90's grunge/punk/ alternative
All thoughts are welcome
>when punk, post punk, and melody united
made me think immediately of the Meat Puppets' Up On The Sun:
just 'cause Kurdt repped the previous album on his acoustic set doesn't mean this wasn't more consistent as an album
I never really felt much of the influence from the Huskers on the 90's rock scene, weirdly. whatever tunesense and songcraft always felt buried under guitar noise. wasn't until Sugar's Copper Blue that I started to get their drift, but by then they were playing around in (and exceeding at) an accepted 90's alt-rock framework, weren't they?
I've really been obsessed with this album lately. 1988.
My Fav track is "wrote for luck"
Yeah he's still an underrated gem in my opinion. Obviously a lot of people look up to him, but I feel he was one of the true pioneers in transitioning from true punk to that melodic/alternative sound and might not fet enough credit for that. The man's an American national treasure :D
total freedom is the best of what "punk" promised. lots of different experiments were performed on the simple rock form to stretch and generally fuck with it in productive ways.
basically what all this messing around succeeded at was in opening up a creative space in the form for interesting new movements to gestate and grow in. here we have the beginnings of math rock, post-rock, and a total revitalization of pop music through noisy guitars.
what's different is how much the landscape has shifted. radio got nuked by the internet, meaning now we have teenagers listening to bebop, funk, gamelan, qawwali, SST, classical - EVERYTHING at their disposal.
I grew up when all these things were hived off from one another, and my taste today would seem chimeric in the extreme compared to the 90's. I don't know how any new "let's rewrite all the rules from scratch" movement could even come about, when nearly everyone has multiple "tastes" and different starting points today compared to even 15 years ago...
why thank you - I couldn't help thinking a ton about it, addicted to music like I am
there's acres of ground to cover for people just coming up, and it can be difficult to get any perspective at all. I still think it's imporatant for people to keep some subcultural affiliations in order to stay grounded in this now-immense musical landscape.
I like to think of having one foot in the VU-influenced art-band/punk/alt scene (being born into no tradition in particular means this way comes easiest as a way to approach making new music), and the other in the funk scene (which I think of any dance style that came about in the Americas - whether samba or Cuban son or prime James Brown).
I go back to what Mike Watt said: "The ethics are still there if you want to use it."
we need to have some common ground to talk to one another, and share ideas. I still wonder what the next subcultural burst of creativity will be - even a single year of THAT would be monumental in this age!
Yeah I was brought up on punk, mostly first wave and the early 90's revival stuff. It all just branched out from there. From Husker Du it snowballed into all kinds of new unique sounds. From the Pixies to Pavement, to genres Id never even listened to (hip hop, reggae). I would give anything to go back to this time in music and watch Husker Du, Replacements, R.E.M.