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>Production Resources:
>Pastebin - Links, books, videos, articles, tutorials and stuff
http://pastebin.com/pYGCLu6q
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=8CGHNJpHndE
>/prod/ wiki - still looking for contributors (wink, wink, WINK)
http://mu-sic-production.wikia.com
There's a severe lack of DAW descriptions in the wiki. If you're good with your tool of choice, consider writing a paragraph about it.

Learn how you can be an astronought and make space jams.

Remember to use clyp.it to post your tracks/WIP : posting a clyp.it is just providing sound for a question, posting a soundcloud link is making self-advertisement and the thread doesn't need that.

Remember to check other peoples' clyp.it links to keep the thread healthy.
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I want to get cubase soon but I need to know if it requires an audio interface? I know I'll need it to record audio but I don't want to record audio straight away.
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https://clyp.it/llsplfgu

Not exactly beats but needs feedback anyway.
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Is there actually anything worthwhile from NAMM? Everything seems pretty meh.
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>>61912003
pretty cute theme
it totally reminds me of mario galaxy on the wii
it would fit that kind of video game perfectly
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>>61912004
The breakfast of champions sounds particularly enthralling.
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>>61912004
Minilogue (if Korg fixes the VCA attack click), Volca FM and OB-6 seem pretty nice to me so far. Arturia's might be cool too.
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Reminder to avoid gear obsession. Its a real thing and its dangerous. It keeps you from actually making any music instead you keep being obsessed with the new plugins, hardware, daw, mixer etc...

I have a friend with a really expensive studio(he invested around 80k in it) but he doesn't really make much music, just shuffles gear around mostly.
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>>61912321
that's not true though. once I get an MPC and spring reverb I'll be all set.
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>>61912321
nah

I buy a new synth pretty much monthly and I'm still cranking out tunes, your friend probably just isn't cut for this and is using it as an excuse.
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sup /prod/, next mix

clyp.it/13nkcqzp

who else
>all buttons
here?
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>>61912436
gave me an erection / 10
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>>61912375
I found my favorite reverb spring in a 15 watt practice amp I paid $20 for.
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>>61912752
Was it just the spring or a self sustained system?
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>>61912436
god how delightful
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I have to make a rap for class. I kinda want to do something with a chillwave influence, because it seems the easiest to add vocals to. Any tips, advice?
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>>61912409

Yeah because you want a new toy every month not because you need it. Gear should be looked at as tools not toys.
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Is there any good free guitar amp VST?
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>>61913304
Just rock clean tones
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I know I have to fix the kick but does this sound ok? just a lil wip

https://clyp.it/uhtezdbt
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>>61913328
wow

I've never been stimulated like this by music. Good work. Don't know what there's to fix.
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>>61913327
What if I want to rock clean tones while using an amp?
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>>61912436
Thought I was listening to Portishead for a sec.
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>>61913393
sarcasm...
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>>61912436
>that 28 Days Later guitar
Great stuff as always.
Do you guys have a BandCamp or SoundCloud?
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What DAW do you recommend for beginners?
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>>61913565
FL Studio.
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>>61913565
FL Studio
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>>61913287
yeah but you'd never go to a mechanic and say
>"dude you have too many tools why not just use this wrench and hammer for everything?"
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>>61913582
>>61913588
anon said beginners, not babies
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>>61913509
Why do you think that? The whole core concept of your track is to shock the listener with those approaching beats, isn't it? It's really crazy with headphones on. Try it if you haven't.
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>>61913565
Ableton
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>>61912503
>>61913014
>>61913556
thanks, m8s
I guess that release will be on bandcamp, but for now this band has nothing going on

>>61913304
check out SGear
not exactly free but fairly cheap ($100-ish iirc) and amazing
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>>61912285
Idk if the VCA attack click is fixable. The OB-6 was underwhelming, it seems to just be a P6 with a Pro2 filter.
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https://youtu.be/nfLTlbGwXD0
https://youtu.be/_VnmBekouDM

synths from namm
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>>61912436
mix sounds pretty balanced. Chorus is really bland tho imo. I think the singer needs to use their diaphragm more or you need to maximize it more. Guitar is kinda weak too.

>lol at all of these anon's jizzing over non-edm productions
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>>61911717
Why is there no mention of Mixing Audio by Izhaki?

>>61913763
Give us the bandcamp page then
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>>61913834
I wish the Arturia video wasn't shit.
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>>61913876
the yamaha one is even worse, this singing is making me want to stab my ears
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hi prod,
what city do you guys live in? anyone in chicago?
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>>61913834
>MatrixBrute

pretty sure Arturia just won and i haven't even seen all the releases yet
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>>61913847
thanks for the actual critique

>>61913874
I don't think there is one yet
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>Akai Wireless Bluetooth Turntable

LITERALLY WHY
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>>61913943
chicago seems pretty /prod/. I'm in southern NH though.
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i want to hear this thing

fuck these music journalist take forever at namm
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>>61913834
That Maxibrute would look great next to my Minimoog
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>>61913943
/wickerpark/ here
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>>61914083
for bluetooth speakers?
Is somebody forcing you to buy it? Why do you care so much nerd
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>>61914149
really? I'm looking for fellow producers - not necessarily for collab, but more like trading tips / advice / critiques, mutual inspiration, that sort of thing.
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>>61914173
>caring about vinyl
>not caring about signal path

choose one
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>>61913619
xD
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seems like a beatstep with keys
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>>61913943
Gothenburg.
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Keyboardmag.com
>down

Synthtopia.com
>down

WHERE ARE WE SUPPOSED TO GET NAMM COVERAGE!?!?!
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>>61914313
vi sitter här i venten o spelar lite dota
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>>61914341
i was just on synthtopia, it's where i got the links for the matrixbrute and montage videos
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>>61914313
>Göteborg
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https://clyp.it/qvagicyl

I've been working on a remix/remake/thing of #1 by Animal Collective. What does /prod/ think?
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OB-6
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>>61913943
Munich
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>>61914374
still down for me
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OH SHEEEEEEEEEET
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>>61913287
Except I'm using them. I'm sorry if you can't afford new stuff too, but projecting your issues on others is pretty bad.

That advice only works for a specific kind of person, and having poor discipline as a producer will screw you whether you have lots of gear or just a laptop. GAS is not the source of the issue.
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>>61913943
near São Paulo
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>>61914448
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=uRlp5SDkQYc
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>>61914452
I agree with you anon. I work hard and at the end of a month or two I like to buy myself something.
It seems that /prod/ is full of salty neets that think it perfectly fine to have a laptop choc full of pirated software but as soon as someone mentions buying a new bit of kit it's a waste of money as "software can do that" or "gas syndrome won't help you make music".
Every piece of hardware I've ever bought has inspired my to make more music. I'm not one to buy a new synth and just sit it in my studio, as soon as that thing is delivered it's plugged in and I'm working my way through the manual.
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>>61914592
sour grapes, no way around it
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>buy Serum
>only use Serum and stock FL Studio plugins ¯\_(ツ)_/¯
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>>61914592
>I work hard and at the end of a month or two I like to buy myself something.
>buying something every day
What
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how do you guys feel about mid-song tempo changes and metric modulation? is it too pretentious?

https://clyp.it/iebrvkn4
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>>61914694
I like it when it's done well.
Like in your track.
Really digging it.
Love the part at 3 minute.

The drums are clipping though and I think it'd sound better if they didn't.
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>>61914774
yeah i softclip everything since i dont know how to master properly lol. i'll try to lower the drums and keep their punch
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There's something I've been wanting to do for a while, but it'd be hard to implement with strangers on the Internet.

Whenever my friends need something specific like the actual Supersaw, they just send me MIDI and write down what they need it to sound like so I have a reference. I put it through my SH-201 and bounce out with no effects for them and they can just mix how they like on their projects.

I think with the right people a synth "community garden" could work out, but it had to be on the spirit of sharing alone: the audio would have to be put out as some sort of CC license to avoid future issues, you wouldn't need to get anyone's specific information (requester or provider) and the requests should be open so there should be no pressure or people spamming others "hey bro is it done yet" and shit. If you can help, you help by fulfilling a request and if you can't, just come back some other time.

It could be something everyone would benefit from at minimum effort, but it's hard to get it started because it relies purely on kindness.
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>>61914872
Limiter is your friend :)
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>>61914900
elaborate!! i use next to no dynamics effects other than extremely basic compression. i never learned any of it since i'm self taught.

if you have any advice i'd be so happy to hear it
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Make Noise 0-Coast
1 voice, semi-modular, desktop synth
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>>61913565
FL Studio desu, until you get bored and quit.

If you're going for it seriously, go for Ableton.

>inb4 martin garrix fans
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Don't reply to bait >>61914994
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>>61914945
check out the youtube channel Pensados Place
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>>61915085
or RecordingRevolution if you're a beginner. He's got a nice vid on limiters. Pensado doesn't really explain it in a way suited for beginners, and he goes kind of fast with some things.
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>>61914994
>>61913752
>recommending the most complex and least intuitive DAW to a beginner
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>>61913565
propellerhead reason
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>>61913565
avid protools
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>>61915149
that would be protools tho
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>>61915225
But pro tools is in no way complex
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>http://picosong.com/EMh4/
dis gud?

Just trying to make some vaportrap stuff 4fun.
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>>61913834
whoa, matrixbrute looks crazy

how expensive is it expected to be?
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>>61911717

https://clyp.it/kqv23m4j

riddim from the past few hours, any critique?
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>>61915548
Remove the fucking "horn" sound for starters, god... don't try to make a melody if you can't.
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>>61915695
>dont try to make a melody if you cant

lol rly nigga? how would you ever propose to get better?
besides, its a melody made from the g minor scale - as is everything else in the mix
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>>61915548
you need to add a rhythm section.
also the horn isn't enough for your lead.
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>>61915746
Just because it's in the correct scale doesn't mean that.
1. The melody is good
2. It fits
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>>61914994
>memeton
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>>61915933
what songs have no melody?
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>>61915746
why the gun shot sounds tho?

sersious question
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what do you think /prod/

https://clyp.it/u5f32f0z
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>>61916207
I think u like fm synthesis
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>>61914126
it's just a controller m8

there's a shit basic synth engine tacked on but it's going to be worthless
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>>61916207
I like it, noisy but not too noisy

you'd probably like Food For Animals if this is the type of stuff you like making
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so here´s what i did and im on a month long break to suck in influences what i can do differently next time, the clyp´s supposed to be progressive techno
https://clyp.it/egn02yge
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>>61916207
Trent Reznor/10
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>>61913943
Detroit/Märsta Sweden
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>>61914313
>>61914398
>>61916500
vad händer pojkar
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>ITT
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>>61912003
this is beautiful
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>>61913943
annapolis
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http://nesthq.com/ryuno-take-your-hands

it happened senpai
we're all gonna make it
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>>61917944
jesus fuck
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>>61917447
>>61912222
thanks, senpaitachi
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>>61914410
dave smith and tom ob declaring war on my credit card
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Still quite novice, this will be my first real track I suppose... It's still a WIP but please give me advice. I know it's nothing special but I'm happy I'm getting better (I think)

https://clyp.it/0bvknpet

>>61917030
hehe

>>61916736
Hej hej
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>>61912003
Kawaii desu, senpai.
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>>61917944
Wow, I loved SEX and VIOLENCE with MACHSPEED.
How did TRIGER contact you?
How did you work with them?
>future house
Been interested in this genre for a while, but I dunno where to start and what artists to listen to.
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>>61912436

how'd you mic the drums?
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>>61919036
-d6 in the kick, u47fet in front
-md421 on snare and toms, don't remember the snare bottom, probably a km184 though, two more at hihat and ride but these aren't used in the mix
-u89 overheads
-a pair sennheiser mhk800s set to 8 with the 'side' (the minimal sensitivity) facing the kit, about 3 meters wide, far and high
-a single km183 taped to the back wall as a 'to smash' mono room
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>>61919235

Do you have any expierence with the Advanced Audio microphones? I know they make clones of the 414 and the 47fet so I'm wondering how they stack up against the original
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>>61918673
>How did TRIGER contact you?
Our label heads and Imaishi met and decided it'd be the perfect project to start a partnership with.

>How did you work with them?
They sent us the designs for the characters as well as a really rough animation for time reference. We had to make a short version of the tracks, timed to the scenes, and a CD version for the release through King Records. They approved my first draft of the track, really easy to work with.
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THink I'm reaching pro level (only the drop is properly produced as this is a WIP)

https://clyp.it/wnbyphbv
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>>61919294
sorry, never even heard of them
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>>61919406
get the fuck outta here
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>>61918569
arigatou gozaimasu, senpai~
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>>61919362
That's so cool desu senpai
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Anyone know where to torrent Kontakt?
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https://clyp.it/vm4045yc

r8

it's a lil cheesy
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>>61919756
take out the retarded bell sounds and u have a banger :^)
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>>61919362
>Our label heads and Imaishi met
Wow.

How early before the release of the short on Animator Expo did you get noticed?

Shit man, my dream is to get noticed by anime staff.
>tfw you're probably younger than me
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>>61919805
really? the whole track was centred around them lmao
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>>61919695
Download and install Google.exe
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>>61919870
maybe cut out the low end of the bells and change where they are in the stereo image of the track

or maybe youre still a beginner and dont know about any of that shit nigga
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how do you guys focus on your internal creativity rather than focusing on what people might like?
Now that I've shared my music with people in the real world I can't help that niggling thought of trying to make the track as accessible and likable as possible. The paradox being that I make the best stuff when I'm not thinking that way.
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>>61919362
How is it being signed to a label?
Do you get some amount of money monthly or are people buying your tracks?
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>>61919846
>How early before the release of the short on Animator Expo did you get noticed?
I think it was around three months.

>tfw you're probably younger than me
I'm 26 now, so I'd say it's not very likely.
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>>61919929
It's an eternal struggle, senpai, to the point where I have a hard time seperating the two.
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>>61919940
>How is it being signed to a label?
Pretty fun, there's always something interesting to do like a compilation or a dance game.

>Do you get some amount of money monthly or are people buying your tracks?
People don't buy music as much anymore, and frankly, what I make off music sales doesn't compare to what I make off music for projects. The only reason why I can do audio as a full time career is because I make music for games, anime and similar stuff: if I were to depend on being a popular artist that people support, I wouldn't be able to take care of my family at all. The way my career is right now, doing commissions is the job and releasing dance music is more like the hobby I have very little time for whenever business is good.
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>>61920025
>a dance game.
one of the things I want to do in my career is to make cute and girly eurobeat songs for bemanis
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>>61919929
>how do you guys focus on your internal creativity rather than focusing on what people might like?
Stop listening to any other music than my own for like weeks.
Bury myself deep in making melodies, beats, progressions etc.
I try to add some popular flavor to my stuff as well, but it never drowns out the "me" in my music.
>>61919946
>three months to work on a track
Oh, that's a good timeframe.
>26
There's still hope for me (22).

I'm hoping to git gud so I can get signed to mau5trap or something and/or maybe make music for visual novels.

I do progressive house, minimal house, techno, ambient, piano compositions, trap, trance...
Sometimes I feel I'm too over the place
Future house is too complicated for me, but man it's fun to listen to.

Good luck with your stuff mate.

Anyway.
Reposting a snippet of something I'm working on
https://clyp.it/cfww2024
>over 600 plays
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>>61914409
Sounds good what gear do you use
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My first track in a while due to no computer. I've spent a couple of days on it so far but not much work per day.

Track (Song title and individual tracks) naming game strong.

https://instaud.io/hZi
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How the hell do I make this into something interesting instead of just a loop?
http://vocaroo.com/i/s1059sxypM3H
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>>61920255
use clyp.it
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>>61920255
http://alanbelkinmusic.com/site/en/index.php/musical-form/
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frustrated with my shittiness tbqh
https://clyp.it/ul0zaas1
>>61920255
add a chorus/verse/bridge whatever, just change everything slightly, maybe add one new element, make a new part that's slower/harder/faster/softer etc.
maybe try imagining someone doing vocals over it and try to imagine what their parts would do and try to work from that
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https://clyp.it/0giaylmg
Could use some feedback please!
>trap
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>>61920025
Any tips for a guy who wants to do music for VNs etc?
Just contact the staff on Twitter?
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>>61915199
more like AVOID protools lmfao
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>>61920390
Cold-calling studios is a bad idea.

Instead, advertise on forums for developers. If possible go to conventions and network. Make sure they know you're available and have a portfolio (can just be a SoundCloud account with your best work in several genres).
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>>61920491
Forums for developers?
>conventions
Hah, if only there were any good ones in Sweden...

I guess I need to set up my SC and BC accounts ASAP.
Clyp is a start at least.

And I do infact know a couple of game devs...

Thanks for the advice!
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>>61914984
>549€
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Rate thispls>>61919406
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>>61920176
>https://instaud.io/hZi
i like it. reminds me of old-school shit. What DAW is that man? I never seen it in my life
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>>61921400
THANK YOU!

The DAW pictured is Bitwig, a relatively new kid on the block. Probably about 2 years old now and only at v 1.3.6. I bought it as part of my move towards non-pirated tools and also because I was growing sick and fucking tired of Ableton Live.

I also use Renoise.
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>>61919406
>https://clyp.it/wnbyphbv
Pretty good. I like minimal house myself but that was some great progressive house!
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>>61921062
Might be the cheapest complete synth MN will ever have.
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>>61921441
Thanks man! I'm trying my hardest to try to use as many DAWs as possible
>mfw i already spent around $500 on DAWs so far
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o shit forgot the pic
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what are your guy's mixers??

just bought this mixer for $120 to use for live/recording stuff.. did i fuck up??
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>>61921510
y u do this tho?

Bitwig is my main normal DAW and Renoise is my bananas music DAW. I think you should focus less on acquiring multiple DAWs and rather stick to one or two, if you're going to hoard anything, make it plugins or samples.... But why daws??!?!?!??!?!
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>>61921556
Because I getting tired of fl and trying to settle on a good DAW
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>>61921553
>behringer
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>>61921441
renoise looks and feels like maschine daw which i think is shit

how is bit wig compared to ableton though?????
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>>61921553
Alesis multimix 8. I've been looking for a bigger mixer irl, but everyone wants crazy prices for their shit.
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>>61921631
>how is bit wig compared to ableton though?????
incomplete
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>>61921553
I never had very good experience with behringer, but then again never touched one of these tiny analogue mixers in ages so maybe things changed

>your guy's mixers?
I own a si1+ but only use it for a few on-location jobs and sometimes live sound
at work we have a c200hd
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>>61921609
Aaaaah. Okay that makes sense now. I see. I am enlightened. My mind has been open. I am receiving 100% of your vibes loud and clear.

I recommend Bitwig (duh), it's a sexier looking Live with some neat features like per-note automation, those HUGE METERS, layered clip sequencing, etc. The stock effects are much better sounding too.

Given its now status though, it obviously is missing some things, like a spectrum, but they're holes that can be plugged since I'm using that shit full-time now.

Yes, there is timestretching.

Oh, and the modulation system is insane, the mod devices are on the right there, in the browser's lower pane. In the bottom middle you can see the LFO.

Another thing is the ability to nest devices inside devices, so, say you want to put x effect on ONLY the feedback output of their delays (Of which there's a mono, stereo, and multitap with 4 taps which I'll upload a shot of after this.)

There are things promised for v2 as well such as an answer to Max for live and online collab.
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>>61921627
i get it.

it's was listed for $150 though. i'm broke as shit
got it with gift cards
my first legit mixer. gonna test run this shit
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>>61921711
niiiiice
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>>61921631
See >>61921715

And, no, Renoise is NOT like Maschine in any way. Renoise is a tracker, trackers allow crazy shit like https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=OBu_DApP8bk

I only use Renoise for jungle, breakcore and such shit.

Also, here's the delay-4 showing off nested devices. As you can see I put the Blur and Ladder devices on the feedback of tap 1. All native devices can nest devices and I think they even added support to nest devices in VSTs, so when you save a preset in Bitwig, the entire chain will be recalled.
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>>61921715
>Another thing is the ability to nest devices inside devices, so, say you want to put x effect on ONLY the feedback output of their delays
Cool.
I use FL Studio and I do that by using a send with 100% wet delay on.
It's not really straightforward, but it's so much easier to do with Patcher than it was a couple of years ago when Patcher didn't exist.
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>Peavy PV6
6 channel
Small but sturdy
Usually use it for stage

>Roland RM-1200
Gigantic and sexy
12 channels
Channel strips sound really good
Gigantic

>Akai MPX 820
Rackmount 8 channel
Sits in a rack doing rack stuff
Apparently midi controlled, but goddamn that's stupidly useless in a mixer

That beg ringer should be fine, I believe the xenyx series are built/designed by the Midas guys
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>>61920123
Thanks! It's all stock software instruments and samples from Logic Pro X, apart from the vocals (recorded on my Macbook's inbuilt microphone), the few samples from the actual band, and a complete set of Waves plugins.
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Hi there,

Here's a demo from a sound I'm producing. Please use headphones if you can, give some feedback if you will.

https://clyp.it/gtt45h4s
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>>61921790
why even use a tracker when daws exist except for video game nostalgia

>>61922471
boring, learn about mixing and mastering
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>>61922896
Because they are better for some things while DAWs are better for others. It really isn't rocket science.
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>>61922928

like what rofl
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>>61922962
Okay.
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>>61922969
??
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>>61921553
>>61922245
i mainly got this b/c of its interface.

i'm waiting for the day an affordable/durable analog mixer/midi/usb interface comes out
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I want serum, but I dont wanna spend $200
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>>61923127
I never got the interface part of these things since it's just recording the stereo mix, which can as well be done using the line in on your mainboard sound card
not a big selling point imo
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>>61923179
why would you even post this
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>>61923179

Then you'd better grab an eyepatch and a pegleg
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>>61923221
i can hookup all my drum machines,samplers, pedals, and other other equipment on this, usb it into individual tracks on ableton or as one into an 8track or just jam out of monitors.
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is it possible to make songs using only a drum machine? i know it comes down to the whole ,music is subjective thing but it seems like after 2 songs of just drums it would get old
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>>61923320
you could make literally anything with an 808, effects, and some tape machines
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>>61923320
Very possible, I have this machine, I can't do what this guy is doing, but I'm just using it as an example to prove it's definitely doable.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Vze8cfVtnZU
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>>61923313
>usb it into individual tracks on ableton
well ...
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It's still a work in progress, but is my bass harmonica drowning out my lead harmonica?

https://clyp.it/eerit2dr
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>>61923401
This guy is the most fucking annoying person I've ever seen use any piece of equipment ever
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>>61923422
what?
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>>61923363
any examples of only 808 tracks, that sounds cool
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>>61923495
Here's an 808 clone put through a sherman filterbank with pretty much just one pattern

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=OHc4YivkYS0

I'm pretty confident with a tape machine, tape delay, some distortion, reverbs, etc I could probably make a bunch of stuff with my only instrument being the 808

I had a sample a while back that was a neat pad made from timestretching a verbed 808 tom
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These threads are cancer. 99% of posts are shit about equipment that people can't use properly. And 1% of the posts are people looking to find advice that no one will help them with.
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>>61923475

I know I know, but I just wanted anon to know it's possible. Is it the pink gloves that trigger you?
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>>61924004
It's the really annoying hand motions and shit but the pink gloves sure don't help
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>>61923810

/prod/ isn't perfect, but honestly I've gotten some really great advice and shot the shit with some people cool people in these threads. I don't have time for all that forum bullshit I like that these threads are either up or not.
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Guys, so far I've been making a new song almost every day. If I keep this up will I eventually get good? Or is there more that I should do?
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>>61924100
That's all you really can do, bro. It takes a certain amount of hours invested into something before you start to git gud. Each day try to focus on going for something different

>Today I'm gonna do X with drums
>Today I want to use more audio effects in this way
>Today I'm gonna figure out what the fuck that one plugin/knob/etc. does
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