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start off with a classic question: top five songs?
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>ruiner
>gave up
>la mer
>closer (duh)
>eraser
>somewhat damaged

yay another nin thread :>
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1.Big Man With A Gun [spoiler]jk, its actually The Great Below[/spoiler]
2.A Warm Place
3.La Mer
4.Hurt
5.March of the Pigs

Should I listen to their later stuff? Also, this video is goat
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=PL72Tyxe1rc
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>>61910014
I just realized that was six, not five. cut gave up and there, that's my top FIVE.
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>>61910034
best video!
their later stuff is really cool imo. With_teeeth especially is worth checking out.
also kudos for la mer! and a warm place! and hurt! you have top-tier taste anon.
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>tfw you noticed you didn't put your own top 5 up in your own thread

...here's mine:
>The Becoming
>La Mer
>Last
>Eraser
>Sunspots
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also:
>>61906710
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>>61910057
Thanks m8, I'll totally check it out.
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wtf
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>>61910290
>can't look at that picture without laughing

Check out the W_t songs Hand that Feeds, Love is not enough, and sunspots. They're really good.
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>>61910325
what's the problem amigo
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Why don't we have /industrial/ generals and why can't they be civilized like /nin/ generals? The genre is barely discussed here, even on /dark/ threads.

Also 90's Trent > 10's Trent > 00's Trent
His mallgoth period was qt af
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>>61910364
>his mallgoth period was qt af

I second this.
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>>61910325
what?
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>>61910364
He's still really cute, anon!
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1. Purest Feelings
2. Capital G
3. Maybe Just Once
4. Pilgrimage
5. With Teeth
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>>61909934
1. we're in this together
2. something i can never have
3. head like a hole
4. ruiner
5. last
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>Reptile
>The Way Out Is Through
>Underneath It All
>Happiness In Slavery
>Sin

His EP's and remixes are generally better than the studio albums though, I never see them discussed on here.

Also this is objectively the best version of Reptile live https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=IhUhDAHVaug
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>ctrl+f
>and all that could have been
>0 results

are you faggots even NIN fans?
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>>61910482
bootlegs!/demos! <3
>>61910485
Something I Can Never Have is one of THE most underrated songs of all time.
>>61910496
I loved Further Down the Spiral to the point where I believe it's a necessary listen directly after TDS. But Fixed and a lot of the b-sides I wouldn't say are better than the studio albums. Fixed is great, don't get me wrong, but Fist Fuck and Screaming Slave kinda weigh it down. They're just so dull.

Also dude! Reptile live is a necessity! one of his best songs
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>>61910535

Still is the best thing Trent ever did. I assumed there was no discussion there.
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>>61910535
It's a great song, but compare it to the others already listed. They just happen to be better songs!
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>>61910562
I wouldn't classify Still as an original studio album tho
It's a remix album, tops.
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>>61910619
halos are halos faggot
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>>61910482
this are the worst NIN songs ever
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>>61910685
sit down and shut the fuck up child. you're seriously going to call a remix album NIN's best release?

gtfo
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>>61910704
nah f a m, Broken tracks 88, 89, and 90 are the worst nin songs
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REPTILE TOP 1
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>>61909934

Who cares what five songs some anonymous fags on the internet like? What a boring conversation.
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>>61910781
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>>61910781
It's an icebreaker, you moron.

Top 5 worst NIN songs?

I'll go with:
>Echoplex
>Starfuckers Inc.
>The Perfect Drug
>That's What I Get
>Kinda I Want To
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>>61910732
>not appreciating remix work

That was the purpose of 'halos'
so people like you wouldn't write off NIN work just because of the word 'remix' or 'ep'

the EU version of Further Down the Spiral is objectively better than The Downward Spiral
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>>61910864
the EU version of FDTS has three versions of Mr. Self-Destruct

Are you actually saying it's better than TDS itself?

imagine being this ignorant.
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My buddy was in the pit for this show, and i hate him for it

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=TUhKwhgPp_g
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>>61910910
yeah, the best versions
US got the worst versions
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big man with a gun, obv
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>>61910864
Actually I love Trent's remix work, [spoiler]and I think Ruiner (Version) is actually better than the original Ruiner [/spoiler].
But I don't think the remixes are better than the studio versions. To me, the studio versions feel a lot more complete, if you get what I mean?
I think with the remixes, you can tell they're remixes. The studio versions feel original. (also: not just saying that; I heard Further Down the Spiral and Fixed before their respective original source albums)
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terrible lie
hurt
into the void
the good soldier
echoplex
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>>61910934
the EU version of FDTS was a lot better than the American one lol. I still think TDS is the best of all three tho:
TDS > FDTS:EU > FDTS:USA
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>>61910990
>worst songs?
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>>61910955
>best or worst?
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>>61910846
>>That's What I Get
>>Kinda I Want To
I like those :<
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>>61911071
they're not bad songs, just not his best imo
the perfect drug is his worst tho I think. it's pretty bland. also he's never played it live.
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Official objective top 5:
>we're in this together
>Closer
>ringfinger
>wish
>reptile
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this was tough, but i think i'm content with these choices

>reptile
>just like you imagined
>and all that could have been
>the great collapse
>the downward spiral (the bottom)
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>>61911197
>tfw closer is in a top five
:D
>tfw ringfinger is in a top five
D:

it's a great song, but... top5? wow
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>>61911197
the guitar ruins ringfinger for me
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>>61911215
the guitar riff in the second verse of reptile is objectively the best guitar riff in a song ever
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>>61911197
at least you got reptile correct
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best videoclip?

>happiness in slavery
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>>61911267
it's actually not as bad as everyone makes it out to be. the gore is very implied t b q h.

but it's a cool as fuck music video
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>>61911230
>>61911238
I love it
Especially te breakdown at te end.
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>>61911343
it is one of the most unnecessarily hated songs of PHM, but I'm a fan.

kinda wish it was still the last song in the remastered version. Not a huge fan of get down make love
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>Right Where It Belongs
>Gave Up
>A Warn Place
>La Mer
>Something I Can Never Have

Now I'm Nothing + Terrible Lie live would be a honorable mention.

What can I say, Trent excels in making depressive piano ballads
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>>61911502
well he is a pianist at purest form.
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>>61911502
>gave up

gross
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>>61911312
i wasnt saying it in a ironic way. I trully find that video good and matches the song. Most of nin videos fit good
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1. I Would For You
2. The Day the Whole World Went Away (Still)
3. The Fragile
4. Discipline
5. Beside You in Time

Favourite NIN song is off of Hesitation Marks. Apart from that it's mediocre as NIN albums go. Copy of A is also good.

Found that really fucking difficult to narrow down. There's still a lot I'd like to have put down.
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>And All That Could Have Been
>The Day The World Went Away (Still version)
>Somewhat Damaged
>Burn
>Mr. Self Destruct

honorable mention
>9 Ghosts I
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> The Way Out Is Through
> And All That Could Have Been
> Zero Sum
> All The Love In The World
> La Mer

Fuck, it's always difficult for me to choose just a few songs, I love Trent's work so much ;_;
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> only time
> down in it
> reptile
> Starfuckers
> the fragile
it's really hard to choose, NIN is definitely one of my favorites
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>>61912114
>Somewhat Damaged
soooo good, forgot to put that one
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Halo 1
>Down in It (Skin)

Halo 2
>Sanctified
>Terrible Lie
>Kinda I Want To

Halo 3 (UK)
>Head Like a Hole (Opal)

Halo 4
>Sin (Dub)
>Get Down, Make Love

Halo 5
>Last
>Suck
>Happiness in Slavery

Halo 6
>Gave Up (Coil Remix)
>Happiness in Slavery (NIN remix)

Halo 7 (US)
> Underneath The Skin (Dave Ogilvie Remix)
> A Violet Fluid

Halo 8
>Reptile
>The Becoming
>I Do Not Want This

Halo 9
>Closer to God
>Memorabilia
>Closer (Further Away)... better than original imo

Halo 10 (UK)
>The Downward Spiral (The Bottom)
>Ruiner (Version)
>At The Heart Of It All (Aphex Twin Remix)

Halo 11
>The Perfect Drug (Plug Remix)
>The Perfect Drug (NIN Remix)
>The Perfect Drug (Spacetime Continuum Remix)

Halo 12
>VHS 2 (Live)

Halo 13
>The Day The World Went Away (Quiet)

Halo 14
>Just Like You Imagined
>Complication
>The Way Out is Through
>Even Deeper
>I'm Looking Forward To Joining You, Finally
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>>61912685
Halo 15
>The New Flesh

Halo 16
>The Great Collapse
>Slipping Away
>Starfuckers, Inc (Dave Ogilvie Remix)

Halo 17
>Frail>Wretched
>Secret footage with Marilyn Manson

Halo 17 Bonus
>Leaving Hope
>And all that could have been
>Something I Can Never Have

Halo 18
>Hand That Feeds (Dub Mix)

Halo 19 (Vinyl)
>Line Begins to Blur
>Every Day Is Exactly The Same
>Home

Halo 20
>Hand That Feeds (DFA Remix)

Halo 21
>Only (Richard X Remix)

Halo 22
>Right Where It Belongs
>Beside You In Time
>Somewhat Damaged

Halo 23
>Survivalism (Saul Williams Remix)

Halo 24
>The Great Destroyer
>In This Twilight
>Me, I'm Not

Halo 25
>Zero Sum (Stephen Morris and Gillian Gilbert)
>Me, I'm Not (Olof Dreijier Remix)
>God Given (Stephen Morris and Gillian Gilbert)
>The Beginning of the End (Ladytron Remix)

Halo 26
>honestly i don't know the songs by track

Halo 27
>Head Down
>The Four of us are Dying
>Discipline

Halo 28
>While I'm Stil here
>Finding My Way
>Copy of a
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>>61912438
>difficult to choose
Look I know I asked people to put their top 5 down, but honestly? They're all pieces of art.
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top albums, everyone? I'm gonna go with The Downward Spiral for this. I love the Fragile and all but TDS is a complete, flawless concept album. Also there's no filler.

ur top albums?
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>>61910034
march of the pigs riff is so good. the only song that i know of thats kinda similar is Battery Acid. Do you guys know of more stuff like that?
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>>61912834
March of the Pigs is the only NIN song that sounds like that, so... in the NIN spectrum, that's pretty much it. You might find something by KMFDM or Skinny Puppy that sounds similar, though. Or even Pantera.
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>>61912834
considering march of the pigs' time signature is 28/8, there aren't too many other songs that would sounds like it.
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>>61912798
Pretty much The Fragile. Final track named Ripe (With Decay) is just too good.
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>>61912998
that goddamn song is just beautiful.
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>the hand that feeds
>the perfect drug
>March of the pigs
>capitol g
>only
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I may be a little late to the thread, but what do you guys think of this article?

http://www.popmatters.com/post/165167-five-dark-parallels-between-the-downward-spiral-and-the-holy-bible/
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>>61910325
Never heard of Brent DeCrescenzo before?
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>>61912798
Probably The Fragile. It's got the catchy tracks in the first half, the strong ass atmosphere in the second half, and I like the fact that the concept is a little less overt, gives you more freedom to read into it.

And goddamn, that ending is so bleak it rivals TDS, even Trent thinks so.
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>10 Miles High
>With Teeth
>Now I'm Nothing
>Non-entity
>March of the pigs
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new NIN 2016!!

I'm so excited!!!
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>>61914672
clicking on the link I thought it meant the literal holy bible
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>>61916094
althoooooough the Fragile is less a concept and more a theme album than TDS.
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>>61917046
>implying they missed what trent leaked here the other day
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>>61912798
TDS is my favorite too. It was there during a dark period of my life so it's more a personal thing than musically objectively superior thing.

Can we just discuss how perfect his new album is btw? Hesitation Marks was a solid release.
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>>61917863
>implying it was actually Trent who leaked it even though the leaker admitted they're some anon who was just trolling
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>>61917904
>implying it wasn't a last ditch effort to backpedal in regret
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>>61918060
it really wasn't, why the fuck would he do that
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>>61917904
who is that
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>>61918103
>it really wasn't
the audio was more believable than the denial
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>>61918140
Trent
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>>61918145
>ignoring the fact that the audio sounds like an offcut of TDS and/or TF
>ignoring the fact that NIN hasn't sounded like that in years
>ignoring the fact that ocham's razor applies and it was most likely an overzealous fan
>ignoring the fact that the leaker admitted its their own original work and will be releasing it shortly
>ignoring the fact that the leaker called their work industrial, whereas Trent has never applied the same label to his own stuff
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>>61918164
jfc that is a horrible photo

delete this
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>>61918236
TDS was mostly romplers/sample based, that clyp clearly used modular synths. (just like most of Hesitation Marks). Some anon claiming to be an amature wouldn't be able to achieve that level of sound design, so they were clearly lying about that.
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why is it a fact that la mer is the saddest song about suicide ever?
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>>61918499
this annoys me so much because yeah, I mean, it's not IMPOSSIBLE that Trent actually posted this...

except why retract/deny? That makes zero sense to me.
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>>61918503
I actually cannot hear La Mer without crying or fading into myself.
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>>61918525
PR
Label Contracts (which would prevent pre-releasing material they are supposed to sell)
Not realizing the hash can be traced back to negative comments made under a different tripcode
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>>61910325
The guy that wrote that review is an idiot. The review itself is a joke. He gave it one listen on the way home from work in his car and didn't even listen to the full album.
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>>61918785
Oh please. Trent spends all his time with computers. I think he'd know if the hash could be traced back.
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>>61918835
that is the stupidest thing I am gonna go read that review rn
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>>61918882
this is the stupidest thing I have ever read: http://m.pitchfork.com/reviews/albums/5799-the-fragile/

>why I don't like music reviews
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>>61918862
I'd imagine most people don't realize the hash stays the same no matter the tripcode. I didn't and also work with computers everyday.
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>>61918977
but Trent isn't most people. this argument is already tired. Can we just say it's not him bc chances are it isn't. for reals
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>>61918977
I don't think Trent "teitan" Reznor would ever use an alias like "GarbageKing," anon.
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I hate this discourse so frickin much
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>>61910014
Danny?
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>>61909934
We're In This Together
La Mer
The Frail
Corona Radiata
Hurt
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>>61920275
can't see that pic without thinking of this one
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>>61920325
the contempt on his face is what makes the picture tb h
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>>61910014
Great top 5

It's too hard to choose 5 in his discography so I'll just pick 5 from different albums:
>head like a hole
>happiness in slavery
>the becoming
>just like you imagined
>right where it belongs
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>>61920346
I see slight happiness personally
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>>61920469
>inb4 someone announces its a photoshopped image

happiness, huh? lol I can't see it. Confusion at the most.

He looks busy pondering his next album, Hatsitation Marks
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>>61910846
I love all of them except Kinda I Want To. The Perfect Drug and Echoplex are great.
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>>61920325
That's a great edit, but this is my favorite one.

The expression coupled with the words is marvelous.
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>>61920510
Echoplex is a great song but it isn't anywhere near as good as their others. And yeesh, I personally can't stand the Perfect Drug. It's so blaaaaand.
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>wish
>happiness in slavery
>somewhat damaged
>mr self destruct
>terrible lie

Always had a soft spot for Wish for some reason.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=duVvWfgxc6Y
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>>61920659
ahh wish is such a good song- especially live. so good!
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>>61920238
Trent?
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>>61920689
Billy?
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>>61920615
I'm not a huge fan of the first half but the second more electronic part with the drum solo and the outro are fantastic I think.
>https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=c-QnnLudkQA
I basically always listen from 2:48 to the end.
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>>61920615
the drum programing in perfect drug is insane tho
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>>61920710
Robin ?
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>>61920734
oh actually that's a much better way of listening to it thanks man !!
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>>61920757
Charlie?
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>>61920753
haha but the music video is so goofy. kinda reminds me a lot of the matrix.
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>>61920785
Atticus ?
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>>61920811
Aaron?
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>>61920837
Mariqueen?
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>Ruiner
>Happiness in Slavery
>Sin
>Eraser
>The Beauty Of Being Numb
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>>61920904
RUINERRRRRR
<3
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am I the only one who's ever wanted to see a movie version of the downward spiral?
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>>61920919
hells yes
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>>61921038
It took me a while (well, longer than the other songs on tds) to get into it, but now it's one of my favs
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>jacked
>hot wife
>makes a living off of music
>legendary career in general
>happy

I wanna be like Trent bros
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>>61921221
I swear I've seen this post on this site before

but yes, Trent is god
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>>61921000
Taxi Driver x Shame x Requiem for a Dream
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>>61921145
>>61921038
>https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=WX5O6n1LrK8
There's so many parts in the original song that you don't hear well, I love this remix because you can hear all the small lines hidden in there. And that fucking part at 2:28
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>>61921221
He's one of my heroes. You didn't mention his god-tier movie scores.
We should get to work.
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>>61921259
no but like

exactly the story of TDS but in movie format
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>>61921301
I'd actually go as far to say the remix is the superior version.
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>The Great Below mentioned only once

Fucking plebs
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>>61921395
>doesn't even contribute to listing off a top 5

uh m8 ur the pleb here
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>>61921395
Yeah, I'm that anon. The Great Below is one of my favorites evah
>OCEAN PULLS ME CLOSE
>AND WHYSPERS IN MY EAR
I get the chills every time, it's like the theme song for every shitty relationship/marriage. And if you have a decent headphone, near the end the drums get kinda funky idk they just seem to go in circles from channel to channel. Trent Reznor's masterpiece tbqh.
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Favorite music videos, everyone?

I'm gonna go with the Closer one. It's a c l a s s i c
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>>61922968
Closer is definitely the best, runner up is the Into the Void video, I love the visuals, goes perfectly with the album.
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>>61922968
The Perfect Drug's video is pretty dank https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=sSLqeZzTU8I
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>>61923034
they're both gr8
but I'm gonna go with the Eraser/Hurt clip from the closure movie. my god it's heartwrenching
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Leaving Hope
La Mer
Just like you imagined
All the love in the world
the good soldier

My fav nin songs are pretty much the ambient/piano songs and the more groovy dancey stuff really, probably owing to techno and ambient being my fav genres, haven't really listened to nin for a few years but reznor was a big part of my edgy teens and i'll probably love everything he does in the future, hesitation marks was great
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>>61923210
yay another hesitation marks fan :>

it's an underrated album and gets nowhere near the praise it deserves. Trent's music is godlike
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>>61910846
:( the beat and and guitar solo in kinda i want to are great methinks. also i think the perfect drug could've been fantastic had trent worked on it some more, so much potential, i love the jungle influence
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>>61923210
how is la Mer such a perfect song? it- hoooow. how can anything be as beautiful as that it's impossible
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>>61923210
So many people were thrown off by the dancy/funky stuff on HM, but if they actually knew songs like La Mer they'd realize it wasn't out of place for Trent.
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>>61923418
la Mer was a funky song...?

uh
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>>61923242
it really has some fantastic timbres with the synths and drums, if i ever were to get off my lazy ass to start producing again i would definitely draw from that album
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>>61923464
No but it has a different sound, the bass is very jazzy
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>>61923471
hey there trent

stop wasting time on here and go finish ur next album pronto
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>>61923531
it's like a jazzy version of A Warm Place, I've always felt (in terms of meaning)
that's why I hate doing top 5 lists, I can never choose between the two
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>>61923210
jesus hesitation marks had some great instrumentals, Disappointed sounds sounds like Âme mixed with trip-hop, makes wanna dream of what trent could do if he wre to aim for the dancefloors and dropped the angst
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>>61923599
pls nO

DANCEMUSIC NIN WOULD BE SHIT-TIER
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>>61923464
>>61923418
what i really love about la mer is that he mixes the melancholy piano with the house/hip-hop beat and the funky bass and the strings and the noise and it's fantastic, i doubt anyone else could mix it all up like that and get something listenable
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>>61923369
I think what makes it so melancholic is the history behind it; Trent moving into a place beside the sea and thinking about committing suicide there.

What's interesting too is QOTSA toyed with the connection between the ocean and depression in ...Like Clockwork

I guess the ocean's a very peaceful, final sort of place.
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>>61923669
maybe, at least we have some kick-ass dance remixes, the olof dreijer remake of Me i'm not is god-tier, and really who can sit still to Discipline
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>>61923809
>who can sit still to discipline
truuuuuuu

I still think there needs to be some level of emotion in Trent's work, otherwise it won't feel real
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