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ITT: Pieces plebs will never get

I'll start with the easy ones
>Haydn string quartets
>Haydn piano trios
>Mozart string quintets
>Mozart piano concerti
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https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=guYmVNRAjjI
Not that I think people don't get it, but I do think they misunderstand it.
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>>61906050
bruckner symphonies
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I think everyone appreciates it. Personally, the idea of listening to classical music makes me uneasy for some reason.
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>>61906546
>I think everyone appreciates it.
Well, at the surface level, as purely agreeable sound sure. But that sort of pleasure diminishes with each relistening. Anyway the ability of generating agreeable noise hardly differs between the master and any anonymous composer of his age.

>the idea of listening to classical music makes me uneasy for some reason.
And why would that be?
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>>61906834
I find it too intense. Most music has an effect on my mood, so I often find classical music emotionally overwhelming. I don't like how that feels.
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>>61906863
>Most music has an effect on my mood, so I often find classical music emotionally overwhelming.
But for Viennese Classics pride themselves on balance and resolution, whatever turmoil goes on in the first part of the piece is inevitably resolved at the end, and the finale resolves everything in the preceding movements. Surely music with such strong resolution would leave you agitated in the middle but calm and recollected at the end?
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I have a problem where I wanna get into classical but I don't really no what to get into. I've heard the famous composers, Vivaldi, Bach and the lot, but nothing's really stayed with me, in the end it all sounds like the same pieces of music played in slight variations. I also kinda like uniquity and atonality of serialism but don't know where to go from there. Basically, I can listen to it and enjoy it but it never leaves a lasting impression and eventually just bores me. Someone pls post something that fix this, I want to be patrician
I also like hardcore punk, so if you have any classical that sounds like hardcore punk that'd be nice too
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>>61906974
Maybe you're right, hmu with some viennese classics. My knowledge doesn't go beyond soundtrack classical music, and those are used specifically to draw out emotion.
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>>61907200
>>61907117
Read this
http://www11.zippyshare.com/v/yvp9gwEZ/file.html

The major pieces Rosen talks about are:
>Haydn Quartets Op 33, 42 and 50
>Haydn Symphonies 46, 47, 75 and 81
>Mozart's piano concerti in chronological order starting with K. 271
>Mozart's String quintets
>Don Giovanni, Figaro, Cosi fan tutte and Magic Flute
>Haydn's late Piano Trios
>Mozart, Haydn and Beethoven's church music
>Beethoven's G major piano concerto
>Beethoven's Eroica symphony
>Beethoven's Apassionata and Hammerklavier sonatas

The /classical/ megas has almost everything Rosen talks about, just look around. Also here's a folder with Festetics Quartet's complete recording of Haydn's String Quartets:
https://mega.nz/#F!H0RUVCJY!96Bu_okUSupzoE6mtQfnVQ
Alban Berg Quartet with two of the Mozart String quintets:
http://www.mediafire.com/download/pcw6hpurlu4k33a/Mozart-QuintetsK515516-ABQ.zip
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>>61907336
Classical megas:
https://mega.co.nz/#F!mMYGhBgY!Ee_a6DJvLJRGej-9GBqi0A
https://mega.co.nz/#F!lIh3GRpY!piUs-QdhZACFt2hGtX39Rw
https://mega.co.nz/#F!Y8pXlJ7L!RzSeyGemu6QdvYzlfKs67w
https://mega.co.nz/#F!kMpkFSzL!diCUavpSn9B-pr-MfKnKdA
https://mega.nz/#F!ekBFiCLD!spgz8Ij5G0SRH2JjXpnjLg
https://mega.co.nz/#F!4EVlnJrB!PRjPFC0vB2UT1vrBHAlHlw
https://mega.co.nz/#F!ygImCRjS!1C9L77tCcZGQRF6UVXa-dA
https://mega.co.nz/#F!il5yBShJ!WPT0v8GwCAFdOaTYOLDA1g
https://mega.co.nz/#F!DdJWUBBK!BeGdGaiAqdLy9SBZjCHjCw
http://crudblud.sjm.so/
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Early Baroque music in general (1600-1675~)
Classic era music
Bruckner
Messiaen (specifically his atonal stuff like Des Canyons)

and then of course obvious shit
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>>61906050
>Pieces plebs will never get
Schnittke Symphonies
Gubaidulina piano sonatas
any Lachenmann work
Kagel's Repertoire aus Staatstheater
Shostakovich Symphonies
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Why don't you guys ever post in /comp/ threads?
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Why wouldn't plebs get Bruckner symphonies? They're accessible af. Its like saying plebs wouldn't get Beethoven symphonies.

Realistically plebs wouldn't get art music at all.
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>>61907734
we do. at least I do when they're up or I notice them or I have something constructive to add.
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>>61907606
Plebs easily understand those, especially Shosty.
>>61907743
Bruckner seems overlong and whatnot until you understand the form of his works.
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Can somebody show me some good listens for classical compositions and composers of today? I am completely outside the loop. I am not even sure what the general sound it has, but from my experiences in playing compositions of modern composers it is still all atonal, full of non-ordinary rhytmic structures and experimentations. Is there not anything "nice" to listen to? Not that I don't like it, but it really is weird.
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>>61907841
Magnus Lindberg has some pieces like his clarinet concerto which are pretty tonal in harmony.
But the good stuff is atonal, yeah. There's a good deal of quality to it if you actual git gud and pay attention to the music.
I'd say the best composers working today are Harrison Birtwistle, Wolfgang Rihm, and Kaija Saariaho.
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>>61907822
>Bruckner seems overlong and whatnot until you understand the form of his works.
and yet you think plebs can easily digest a Schnittke or Shostakovich symphony? This just isn't the case. Bruckner is easy to listen to and enjoy, he's in all the programmes. Shostakovich is still popular in the orchestral reportoire, but people have a harder time digesting his music. Schnittke is even harder to digest/understand and thus we almost never see him in programmes.
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>>61907964
You see Shosty all the time faggot, 1-10 are easy choices for audiences.
Schnittke isn't programmed because he's a memeing piece of shit.
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>>61907841
"nice"/tonal contemporary:
John Adams, Arvo Part, Rautavaara, John Psathas, John Tavener, Karl Jenkins.

Halfway between tonal and atonal:
Tristan Murail, Georg Friedrich Haas (especially the string quartets), Schnittke, Lera Auerbach.

Some suggestions:
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=PzSlmWQuHFw
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=AH_yqISYru4
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=uYiokai3FW4
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>>61908036
>he's a memeing piece of shit.
pleb detected

Patricians can enjoy all types of music, even soviet modernism and polystylism.
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>>61908046
Put your trip back on Poly
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>>61907964
>Shostakovich is still popular in the orchestral reportoire, but people have a harder time digesting his music.
Shostakovich is way more popular than Bruckner and receives more programs and recordings.

The only works by Shostakovich that people have a hard time digesting are maybe his last few quartets.
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You guys have any good Mandolin recommendations?
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Anybody know why people upload entire classical albums as just one song on RuTracker?

I'm slowly trying to get into classical and have gotten just a few things so far (pic related). What do you think and can anyone recommend a place to find these albums split into individual tracks and/or better versions of the pieces?
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>>61910153
I have a What.cd account but I try not to use it. I need the third and fourth albums from right split up into individual tracks, if possible.
I really like Rel√Ęche by Satie on this album but not sure what's considered the best.
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Anybody have a infograph like this one for classical?
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>>61910153
What is wrong with rutracker uploading range rips of the whole CD? That is the best way, especially for something like classical. They are easily split or a decent player will use the cue sheet to make them act as if they are split.
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Does anyone have Reconnaissance by Donald Erb? I can't find it even on What. Is his other stuff good?
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>>61910450
I convert my Flac files to mp3 so the .cue sheet is pretty much worthless. I do that because I like to put music on my phone for my commute.
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>>61906834
>Well, at the surface level, as purely agreeable sound sure. But that sort of pleasure diminishes with each relistening
How do you penetrate the surface level and admire music more deeply?

Do you have to be a classically trained muscian?
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Who is the greatest composer of the early 19th century and why is it Lili Boulanger?
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>>61911435
>Do you have to be a classically trained muscian?
You don't have to be but it helps a lot.

Study some theory, especially form/structure. Will make listening to classical music a lot more enjoyable.
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