where did it all go wrong?
>I'm the operator with my pocket calculator
>By pressing down a special key plays a little melody
Face it, this shit was doomed from the start.
electronic music outgrew itself. it began as music made under extreme limitations (no midi, DAWs, samplers, digital synths, etc.) but categorized as a technologically progressive genre of music, so now you're just hearing the results of essentially a complete lack of limitations (90s computer technological growth birthed the DAW and all of its associated hardware/software that make the majority of EDM today in the box).
Trackers aren't bad, lots of great electronic musicians have used them at some point of their career. They're sometimes all you can use if you use older hardware. Demoscene still seems to dig them, but they are nerds.
kraftwerk is shit
edm has gotten better in last few years and all your nostalgy turd EP´s should be burned. you´re being a faggot for hipster points not a genuine fan of the genre. oh and here´s a reminder take your pills before whining about EDM coz its too mainstream 4u (^:
what i was trying to convery was that the exponential growth of computer hardware and software in the 90s gave birth to the (then) powerful DAWs of the late 90s early 00s, which continued to grow exponentially and is the primary conduit of today's EDM.
i myself pretty much only listen to 70s and 80s electronic music, and as a trained pianist, i prefer electronic music that is largely performed live with actual instruments (like YMO).
well i'm talking about electronic music in general, not just techno, which is why YMO is my definition of electronic music for that period (78-83), hell raymond scott was basically making electronic music in the 40s.
How did we get from Stockhausen to the mass produced EDM shit like Kraftwerk today?
There is no Kraftwerk after Man Machine. Just four shmucks from Deuseldorf trying to keep disco alive. Nothing more, nothing less. We should've seen the writing on the wall with Trans Europe Express. (Even though that was a good album)
Look harder. You will see some great electronic artists like: Ladytron, LCD Soundsystem, John Maus, The Knife, Goldfrapp, Jon Hopkins, Daniel Avery, Burial, M83, Grimes, Cut Copy, Royksopp, Susanne Sundfor, Julia Holter, The Field, etc.
You mixed old and new artists dude. I posted only quite recent artists. Looking at your list, I have a feeling that you didn't even listen to the artists from my list.
If the game's like that, I will add also:
The Chemical Brothers
Yellow Magic Orchestra
Jean Michel Jarre
The Human League
Boards of Canada
Telefon Tel Aviv
My list > your list.
Stockhausen is very overrated. Conceptually interesting, but the actual "music" = unlistenable junk. I'd rather listen to Silver Apples on repeat all day long than one hour of Stockhausen.
Not really. Techno, house, trance, synthpop, etc have more in common with each other than with hip-hop. They're also kinda more futuristic than the urban hip-hop. I always viewed hip-hop as a separate genre.
anyway edm is just an umbrella term for big room house and festivals in america. it's just a money making scheme. just browse /bleep/ plenty of great dance tunes being posted everyday. edm is popular because its so easy to get laid at festivals because everybody is on molly. the music is just background noise. its just the new thing for people to do to past time before they finish college and work 80hrs a week or sometimes vice versa for those up tight people who wanna be "fun"
Look, I didn't invent these categories / tags / whatever. Show me where do you see hip-hop here: https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/List_of_electronic_music_genres
>inb4 wikipedia is unreliable
>stop shooting yourself in the foot
That's a very good advice for you. Trap/drill are part of electronic music, like it or not. You don't know even 1/8 from what I know about electronic music.
Are you saying hip hop isn't produced electronically with electronic instruments?
>An electronic musical instrument is a musical instrument that produces sound using electronics.
>An electric guitar is a guitar that uses a pickup to convert the vibration of its strings into electrical impulses.
Not the same thing.