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What type of music do people with real depression listen to?
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Nothing. They don't have the energy to turn on music. Or get out of bed.
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the same things every day, because they don't have the energy or motivation to discover anything new
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Daniel Johnston
Empire! Empire! (I was a lonely estate)
Kaizers Orchestra (Den Andre Er Meg is a little narcissistic to me (men eg spinner bare rundt meg) but it's still pretty feelsy

Moustad

Tom Waits
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Pink Moon
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>>61854878
>>61854969
>>61854920
shiiiieeeet
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>>61854920
Also forgot to mention Andy the Doorbum. Truely an amazing artist.
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>>61854841
This
It all sounds washed out and holds no meaning to them...
:( Help me pls
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>>61854775

I got into noise, ambient and idm during my worst years.
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>>61854775
Depression is a gradient so I don't know what you mean by "real", but whenever I felt the worst I would listen to Elliott, Sufjan, Modest Mouse, and Bright Eyes.
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Depressed people are depressed because they don't know any good music to listen to.
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when I feel legitimately on the verge of killing myself I don't care enough to put any music on

when I'm really low but still in the mood for music It's mostly folk & ambient
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Noise music, heavier shoegaze, music with walls of sound, music with lyrics that attain to them

Something to block out the thoughts

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=gBs-cZs9m8U
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>>61854775
I don't think I'm depressed, but I have a constant feeling of emptiness and I find my life really shallow and dead-end.

I listen to The Middle East most of the time. The few times I stray away from that is mostly Beastie Boys, Sex Pistols, Kanye West, Radiohead, Antlers, Neutral Milk Hotel, and Whitley
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Obvious Eliott Smith
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Depression is a meme.
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>>61854775
Alice in Chains, Smashing Pumpkins
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>>61855573
You're a meme. What do you have to prove your claim?
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>>61854920
When you're in a true state of despair Daniel Johnston hits way too close to home
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>>61854775

i can only give you my own experience but i'm diagnosed

here's the last 10 artists i listened to
>dean blunt
>neon indian
>ken ishii
>ryoji ikeda
>anamanaguchi
>dj rashad
>milo
>panda bear
>talking heads
>machine girl
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Grouper.
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>>61855524
this

when i was really "depressed" I listened to a loot of elliott smith

Havent listened to him consistently in quite some time now.
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>>61855621
I don't know, Daniel makes me feel a little bit more human sometimes. A little less lonely honestly.
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>>61855621
Sometimes you want that
I think the world would be better if we all listened to lo-fi schizophrenic recordings
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>>61854796
John fahey? Great choice!
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nothing
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whenever im depressed and thats most days i listen to drone music so i can drift off in the everchanging textures and at the same time not really pay attention to it
its also great music to cuddle by yourself and thinking/reading
i wish i could fool myself forever
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>>61855135
you're a 16 year old girl
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>>61855822
I'm honestly okay with that.
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>>61855475
>I have a constant feeling of emptiness and I find my life really shallow and dead-end.

yeah, this for me. i listen to a lot of mood-neutral music like math rock and hip hop instrumentals to keep me sane & stable
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Awwwww. Poor Widdle Baby feewing bad? Awwwwww.
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At my absolute worst I usually listen to depressive and upsetting Bandcamp artists like Nicole Dollanganger or Kill the Intellectuals.

Day-to-day I lean more toward hip hop, like mostly Drake, Kanye, Travis Scott, etc.

This is coming from someone clinically depressed, been feeling totally empty/totally lost for 4 years now.
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>>61855967
Awww, poor little ebonics speaker jealous of massuh's ability to form sentences instead of strings of emojis and empty chains of words where every one of them is capitalized? Aww.
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I usually just pop on some dungeon synth when bummed.
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I listened to Whitehouse a ton, it was distracting in perspective
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>>61855687
It's comforting. That said, I do have depression
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>>61855386
same here
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elliott smith, nick drake, neil young, jackson c frank

other times any music bores me so i try playing different albums only making it through a track or two of each and giving up
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>>61855643
>anamanaguchi

i know 2 people who like anamanaguchi in addition to you and myself. all 4 are quite depressed. wtf
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Grouper, Nick Drake, Earl Sweatshirt, Have a Nice Life, Electric wizard, GY!BE
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>>61856116
Please stop
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xiu xiu, i assume
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I've been listening to a lot of BONES lately
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>>61856369
>I bring troubles on my lonesome self
>I see danger in each offered help
>Times are hard, the money just won't through
>I would be alone if not for you

I blare the whole Blister in the Sun album when I'm sad too, it's god-tier for it
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>>61856512
Go to sleep, mason
Your woman needs you to mine the goods to keep you fed
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>>61854775
strictly bay area and southern hip hop
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>>61854775
My darkest hours were spent listening to Xiu Xiu
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=WDWENGfz_Os
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>>61856116
absolutely not
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>>61856530
I'm genuinely very confused by your comment
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>>61855599
Angst and depression are two different things.
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>>61856589
he just called u charles manson
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>>61854841
>They don't have the energy to turn on music
it takes virtually no energy to listen to music through spotify or youtube on a phone
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>>61854775
prob real music
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>>61856605
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>>61854841
I imagine music doesn't really make them feel good. So they just put on what they used to listen to, them promptly turn it off.
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elliott smith, matt elliot, david thomas broughton, bonne prince billy (i see a darkness)
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Sometimes it'll be Nick Drake or The Microphones. Other times Sunn O))), Stars of the Lid, and other "minimal" kinds of music. Noise too.
When I'm at my worst I don't really listen to anything though.
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The Smashing Pumpkins
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>>61856512
I saw him chris travis and xavier wulf in oakland in 2013
first seshhollow tour

:^) shits played out tho

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Vp9WWy-fWOI
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>>61856667
can confirm, been desensitized to getting any feeling from music and it all seems pretty dull and pointless
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https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=mJaC381q-sQ

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=4Psx3KUYupE

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=KfHyumBc6Fc
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>>61856597
They usually go hand in hand. Also, this is pretty clearly depression.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=vs1zuIlZ1nE
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>>61856667
pretty much yeah
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https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Ui92SXehjjM
Too many normies on this board these days
People who are genuinely depressed don't listen to shitty contemporary "folk" music for teenagers
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>>61854775
GY!BE is pretty depression tier music
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>>61856589
I thought you were mason, the only man on earth who listens to bones.
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Recently anything I put on just sounds boring.
Doesn't evoke any feeling.
Even my all time favorites do nothing.
I don't listen to sad music and cry.
I just feel nothing. Which is a lot worse.
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>>61857256
at this point, the only reason i listen to music is to distract myself from my thoughts
i dont enjoy it at all
sucks
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I like to listen to Ulver when i'm feeling the blues. Especially their Shadows of the Sun -album.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=U9kGpx88MoE
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I've been listening sad music my whole life but when I had actuall depression I couldn't stand it and was listening only to happy music, especially She&Him.
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how do i know the difference if I have depression/anxiety or i am just pussy
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>>61857573
Real depression is so disgustingly horrible that you'll know. It's just a state of constant emptiness, hopelessness, and dread.
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I love you all
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>>61855643
>>61855394
i feel like this is comparable to people either coping by using uppers or downers as far as drugs lmfao
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>>61857622
i feel like that for a week and then I am good for a week. My pill pushing psychiatrist is putting me on meds so i guees i will see if its all in my head.
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>>61856667
lol'd because that's what I do
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>>61857673
I have no one to talk about it as yo can see
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>>61854775
When you are depressed, you don't care about listening to music.
You don't care about sex, your friends, your family, yourself, whether or not others know you're depressed, where you are, what you eat, how you look, how you feel, where you are, your potential, anything.
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>>61857713
Nix one "where you are".
Kind of drunk at the moment.
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>>61857713
>>61857713
thats like the absolute worst case depression though. most depressed people fall somewhere between that and normal.
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>>61857749

>most depressed people fall somewhere between that and normal.

That is simple malaise and ennui - not real depression. Depression leaves you obsessing about your past because as painful as it is it's still less painful than thinking about the future. With real depression you cannot think and plan even if you desperately want to. It's irrational, that is what so misunderstood about it. People approach those with depression like naive utilitarian "motivators" as if they now what these people are going through but they haven't a ghost's fart of a clue.
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>>61857792
i dont think there is such thing as real depression
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>>61857839

Like I give a fuck about your "opinions" you precocious little 20something.
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>>61857975
ok
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They listen to the music that resonates with them on the saddest level. Like for me, Life on Mars is possibly the saddest song on the planet, but it's also the song that I was addicted to right when life clicked with me. Just right in the words of that song somehow I realized that life would just be one roller coaster ride that doesn't have any high points.
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>i have real depression everyone else is faking it guys look im #1
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>>61856620
You don't understand. They don't have the patience to listen to music because they don't get any enjoyment out of it.
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>>61854775
HTRK
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>>61858165
>my emotions are fake so i assume everyone else is
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>>61854775

Regular old music it's almost like depressed people are also people
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>>61857749
There aren't really different degrees of depressed.
You either are or you're not.
If you fall somewhere between, you're sad.
Depression isn't feeling extremely sad, it's not feeling at all.
/cringe
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>>61858350
so minor depression doesnt exist?
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>>61858350

you can go through pleasant phases with depression, even happy and elated ones. but under it all there is always a driving feeling that it is all hopeless and you're inevitably on your way to total implosion. you just don't know when or how. but you sense it coming.

you can feel when you are depressed, and you often do. in fact those with depression are often deeply empathetic and feel very intensely all the time. it just isn't a healthy sort of feeling. but the feeling depressed people are capable of is very intense.

still, no matter how happy you are briefly you can't shake that feeling of hopelessness deep down. if that feeling sticks around for years without subsiding then it is probably closer to real depression.

those with genuine depression can definitely go to parties and have fun and be funny and witty and charming, but they get emotionally burnt out quickly and need to decompress because the hopelessness is always there on the inside.
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>>61858506
no dude thats not how it is i got 3 psycholgy degrees over here tRUST me everything is black and white with no middle area so tired of all these people not being TRULY depressed like me like dude nihilism lmao
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>>61854775
Well I had clinical depression a few years ago. desu it wasn't that bad I didn't want to die or anything but I was just very tired all the time and uninterested in everything. Basically onset Neetitus.

I listened to a lot Public Enemy and basically just that.
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Yonlu
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>>61858350
Jesus you have no fucking idea what you're talking about. Do everyone a favor and drop trip until you have something not idiotic to say
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>>61858350
>it's not feeling at all.

If its not feeling at all, why would you kill yourself? Wanting to kill yourself seems to me like a result of negative feelings. Having zero feelings would mean doing nothing.
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>>61858590

i disagree with his notion that it's not feeling across the board for all people with it, but this isn't a valid counter-point. we are social creatures, even the really introverted ones. a lack of any kind of feeling on that level for that long could very easily drive you to it. they would become so disassociated that the question for them would be closer to
>why should i choose to live?
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>>61858421
Correct.
>>61858506
>sometimes people are depressed, sometimes they aren't
>>61858542
Try harder.
>>61858585
Sick opinion.
>>61858590
>>61858658
From my experience the suicidal feelings come from wanting out. You aren't looking to punish yourself, it's not masochistic. When I say you don't feel anything at all I mean that you don't care about nearly anything at all. Once everything loses value, it's hard to feel any sort of investment in it.
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>>61858718
but why do you feel like you have a say in what is depression and what isn't? neurological god bless me
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my favorite bands are xiu xiu and the smiths
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Music? I use to hold a old clock against my head.
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>>61858718
>>61858752
forget this. I dont know how you're feeling m8. Hope you're doing well
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it sounds cliche but I listen to Loveless, and I do have a fairly severe depression. I feel like I dissolve and distance from everything when I listen to this album, it doesn't make me feel better but it does make me feel, and that counts for something
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>>61858752
Because I've been what I would define as "depressed" before.
Not so much anymore.
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Not to be edgy, I just like how it sounds.
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=433S3tuuB94
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>>61858815
>>61858796
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>>61854775
>real depression
oh u wanna be like hipster depressed, only listening to guys with real mental issues coz you´r e hardcore xdddd underage af tb´h
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>>61858718

>>sometimes people are depressed, sometimes they aren't

if you really think that truly depressed people walk around like emotional vegetables 24/7 without the capacity to smile and joke if they need to then you have an overly simplistic understanding of this issue. i am talking about people who have learned to live alongside their depression for years and years.
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Either music from when I grew up in an attempt to feel something. Or just whatever's on my phone, when you're depressed you really don't give a fuck what you listen to.
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>>61858879
>when you're depressed you really don't give a fuck what you listen to
Speak for yourself.
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giles corey
have a nice life
modest mouse
red house painters
gy!be

that's what i listen to at least
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>>61857573
Depression is when you don't care enough about anything. Anxiety is when you care too much about everything. Having both is a living hell. And if someone calls you a pussy, tell them to go fuck themselves.
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>>61858350
>If you fall somewhere between, you're sad.
i shower less than once a week, not a day goes by that i dont think about suicide, and i failed and subsequently dropped out of high school years ago. i dont have friends and nothing makes me happy. but i can still get out of bed (though i promptly get back in it) and eat/drink. does that make me simply 'sad' just because i can do a few things that non depressed people can do?
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none of you fucks actually have depression
fuck you
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>>61858718
You honestly have no idea what you're talking about.
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>>61858916
Thanks for your input, Doc.
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>>61858916

I wish you were right.

Believe me. I'd love it if you were.
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>>61858910
i'm similar to you... i have a ged atleast

I wish we were friends
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>>61858945
Different guy, I just got my GED last year (dropped out officially in 2014). Right now I just have a part-time job that I hate but it pays the bills. I just go to work, then come home and do nothing all day but eat and masturbate. I'd love to become a school psychologist but I don't really have the motivation or confidence to do anything.
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blink 182
teenage dirtbag
creep
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>>61858967
I can't even masturbate anymore, I get so exhausted and lose motivation.

fuck isolation and fuck depression
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>>61859010
I've been addicted to masturbating since I first discovered it so it's more of a habit/boredom thing instead of being turned on. In turn I just look at more and more taboo porn. I hear you on the isolation, I only have two true friends, only one of them I hang out with, and even those two and I are drifting apart.
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>>61858967
you've got cash flow & aspirations, I believe in you man

>>61859010
same, my sex drive has evaporated

i do nothing but sit on here, lie in the dark and listen to music & feel anxious about trying to get my life together (or get one at all - I'm practically nonexistent) or just offing myself
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>>61859029
I mean I guess it's easier to jerk off if you're a guy, but as a female it's difficult for me to retain any kind of motivation. Isolation doesn't help either because if I think about anyone I have/had a crush on or remotely like, I wind up even more downtrodden at thoughts of how distant I really am from them, so it just spoils everything.

I'd splurge my savings on a vibratory, but you know, I just don't have the energy.
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>>61858918
By all means, enlighten me.
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>>61859088
Ah, didn't realize you're a female. From what I've read it is really frustrating for women to try and masturbate so I imagine doing it while depressed is even worse. My problem is I just lust after so many people and realize that I will never get with any of them, so I just give up on trying to better myself or trying to talk to women. In regards to money, I always just waste my money on stupid shit I don't need or eating out and I always feel horrible afterwards.

>>61859066
I would hardly call $200 a week a cash flow but thank you. I know I need to go to school obviously, but I hate the idea of going to a community college and I really don't want to stay in Michigan forever.
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>>61855643
>Ken Ishii

Can confirm. This is Depression-core without trying to be.
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>>61857573
If you find yourself staring at a wall for hours on end, not while listening to music or on something, you're in a state of depression. I remember doing that a few times over some months back in 2012 and the only thoughts I'd have are things like "I might as well just kill myself cuz this is a waste of time." and "I should go see some friends", only to then list every bad encounter I've had with friends and then come the conclusion they weren't actually my friends.


In short, Depression isn't just crying all the time (I have done that too, usually over the most inane shit.) It's a complete dissociation with anything that could give you joy.
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>>61858165
I had/have depression and I can usually tell if others have or are at risk of it.
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french chanson desu
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=5R-eokfjdto
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>>61859123
It's difficult for me because I constantly try to create meaningful relationships (whether friendships/love/attraction/etc.) and they never seem to work out- it's like I taint every connection I have and push people away when I'm trying so hard to keep them even remotely close. So when I lust after them while masturbating it just throws everything off and it's promptly over. Like, it is difficult with us women because it's not like; okay, there's a boner, let's get it done- it's more a mental than physical state for us, which is why the mood needs to be kept. Which is why I fail at keeping even that alive. It sucks, because I used to love masturbating, but I guess it's true that I just ruin everything I've ever liked it loved.
What sucks even more is that I thrive off being with others- when I'm isolated from them, when they push me away...it's like all my self-worth and meaning is stripped down and all that's left is a fully functioning body minus real feeling.
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I'm severely depressed, been that way since i was in 7th grade. Whenever I feel like im on the verge of an episode or things get particularly dark I listen to 80's pop like pic related.
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>>61859266
I understand where you're coming from, me being depressed as well and all, but don't look at it as you ruining everything. I know it's not necessarily a healthier way of looking at things, but I see it as the world fucking me over on everything, more so than me fucking myself over. I enjoy being around others, and I enjoy making other people feel good, but anytime I'm with people, I am just constantly thinking about how annoying I am and how they're only pretending to like me. Like at work, all my coworkers are really cool and nice, and we even seem to have similar interests, but every time I talk to them, I pick up on cues that I am just being annoying or weird or whatever so I just shut up, quit trying to be funny, quit trying to be interesting, and just go back to being isolated. It's a vicious cycle, and unless we make some serious advancements in mental health, I doubt it will end anytime soon for me.
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Taking Back Sunday
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Elvis Depressedly (lmao), Coma Cinema, Teen Suicide, Western High, Cat Be Damned, also Jeff Buckly, Smashing Pumpkins, Yeah Yeah Yeahs ect.
Source: tried killing myself 5 times in the past 2 years, spent a few months in mental hospital listening to mostly this shit
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>>61859318
This and everything for me. What you've written resonates so much. It's a cruel cycle and it doesn't ever seem like it wants to stop.

:(
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>>61854841
This. Or they turn to black metal and pretend they like it.
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>>61859392
Well, at least we're not alone in these thoughts, that is somewhat comforting I suppose. I didn't mean for what I wrote to come across as extra depressing, but it's honestly just how I feel most of the time. Sometimes I imagine meeting the right women, or winning the lottery, or getting the perfect job would fix my depression, but I just dismiss those thoughts as none of those things will happen to me.
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>>61859431
It is comforting that I'm not the only one who feels like this (as mean as that sounds- I'd never wish this feeling on my worst enemies) and yeah, like you I constantly imagine positive, if unlikely, things that could happen in the future. But then I'm let down as they don't work out as I hope, ever.
I hate depression. I hate how it rips away everything good and hopeful. I hate anyone who says "your depression is fake", "depression isn't a thing" or "you're either depressed or you're not". Fuck right off. Depression isn't something that is the same for everyone. And those jokes people make - "go kill yourself" - they can be reminders of pain to people like me and you who wrangle those very thoughts every day.

I hate depression.
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>>61859544
I agree that I wouldn't wish this on my worst enemy. I'm very empathetic in a selfish way, if that makes any sense. It's weird but it actually pains me to know that other people are hurting, especially if I am the one who is causing them to hurt. It's why no matter how much I was bullied as a kid, or how weird or disgusting or just dumb a person is, I would never intentionally try to harm them. I always feel like there are two people residing in my head, an idealist and a realist, and the realist seems to win every argument. I wish everyone including me could be happy, I wish I didn't have to worry about money, I wish I wasn't afraid of dying so I could end my suffering, but I know none of these things will ever be so I just continue to live, if you can even call it living. I am probably going to go to bed now. I did enjoy having this conversation, thank you.
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>>61858938
Wouldn't this make an extremely sad person even more sad?
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>>61859617
Thanks for talking with me too. For once going on 4chan was actually something I don't regret. So thank you very much, sincerely.
It is something I do feel sad about; hearing other people feel that way, and I am so sorry that you feel this way too. I honestly hope everything, or something at least, gets better and gives you strength. Surely this world has something good to offer people like us?
It's sad knowing that there is no clean way out. There's no reset button, no restart, no replenishing. Nothing I could ever do to escape this would be without aftereffects. Suicide would just hurt those I love. Dying of a natural/unnatural cause would hurt them too. And fading into addiction/oblivion would just cause others to worry.
I have something similar, two voices that try to tell me how to react to a situation/how to live, what choices to make. I must be listening to the wrong ones, obviously, if the moves I make wind me dry.

Anyway, this is a thread about music to listen to when ultradepressed, right? Siamese Dream and Loveless for me. Nothing gets me more "calm" as it were, than Soon and Mayonnaise.
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>>61859731
Thought I'd reply one more time before heading off. No problem on talking to you, like I said I enjoyed our conversation so I should be thanking you. I totally get what you mean about a reset button, I always daydream about starting my life over at the age of 5 or something like that, but I honestly can't remember well enough to know if I was even depressed back then (I doubt it but I'm not sure).

Anyways, it's not everyone's cup of tea but this song has a way of making me not want to kill myself. It's happy in a sad way if that makes any sense.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=oAdQzCq53XE

I'm off, good night.
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When depressed, music is pretty much noise that I can't really enjoy, more an annoyance than anything. So nothing.

Mania is where music and mental illness really mix well (or poorly, depending on how you look at it).
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>>61855386
>I don't care enough to put any music on
This desu, I never leave he house without my ipod and headphones, when I was down and out, I just left them at home, it seemed like a chore because music didn't do anything to me... I'd rather get lost in the ambient sounds of the subway and the busy streets
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>>61859633
it does
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>>61855475
Fuck you, the middle east came from my hometown in Aus

They're shit
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>>61859633
It doesn't work that way
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>>61854775
https://youtu.be/5fetSoZFyBw

Some day I will listen to it and then go on to have no depression anymore. I know the day will come.
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Varies from person to person
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>>61857635
It's a matter of days, anon. No one has seen nothing yet.
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>>61854775
A friend who was clinically depressed used to listen to a lot of Chopin and other romantics at the time.
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I take Wellbutrin in the morning and amitriptyline at night.
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nothing
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Depression is a meme
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> itt typical depressed /mu/ poster
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Nickelback, Brokencyde, Yung Lean, Death Grips, Fall Out Boy, Lil B, Bladee, Avril Lavinge, Kesha, Lady GaGa, Britney Spears, 50 Cent, Bjork, Lil Kim, Fergie, Sean Paul, System Of A Down, Aqua, Eiffel 65, Cher, ICP James Blunt, and My Chemical Romance
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Radiohead is essential Depression-core.
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>>61854841
I listen to Talk Talk cuz it's one of the few things that I have an emotional reaction to.
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