I want to get into Opera but have no idea where to start, can

>>61842346
The "old" Opera brought some innovations, but was really overrated by its fanboys. Newer versions are just Chromium with custom skin.

>>61842402
1/10 made me reply

Verdi: La Traviata, Aida, Rigoletto
Puccini: Madama Butterfly, Tosca
Beethoven: Fidelio
Mozart: Die Zauberflote

those are pleb-tier and should help you get into opera. after that you can search for other operas by those composers and move to other shit like wagner.
also keep in mind what kind of experience do you prefer, watching a staged/filmed performance or just listen to the music. personally, i cant listen to opera without seeing the performance (except for wagner), so I rather but a DVD or go watch it live than sit listening to it for hours

>>61842785
thanks

Yessir. *How* do you want to start is a better question, though. Do you want pieces or arias to listen to, so that you can see the highlights of opera before you get into the meat of the concept? Or do you want "starter operas"? There's also different "genres" of opera singing and opera in general: verismo, bel canto, Wagnerian, etc. These are things/tags that you should look for if you're getting into opera - determine what kind of stuff you like.

For the former, I'll offer a spread across a few genres:
Luciano Pavarotti's 1972 rendition of Pour mon ame from La Fille du Régiment [bel canto]: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=kzZwVN9PhQw

Carlo Bergonzi and Frank Guarrera in a brief, lovely scene from La Bohéme (my favorite rendition)[extreme bel canto]: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=APIOKpzOOIw

Mario del Monaco's rendition of Di Quella Pira from Il Trovatore [verismo]: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=XfYYm1cnN5s

Lauritz Melchior in Siegfried (through-composed, so there's no name)[THE Wagnerian tenor]: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=BKKKjiWBZ9w

Gottlob Frick in Goetterdammerung [THE Wagnerian bass]: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=JSXLZkOfUHw

Sherrill Milnes in Il Barbiere di Siviglia (ignore the title) [bel canto opera, verismo interpretation]: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=DyDdMA0hfXg

For the latter, I'll offer some entry-level operas that anyone can enjoy and appreciate - unfortunately, they're going to be primarily Italian only:

Giacomo Puccini's "Madame Butterfly"
Giacomo Puccini's "La Bohéme"
Giacomo Puccini's "Turandot"

Wolfgang A. Mozart's "Le Nozze di Figaro"
Gioachino Rossini's "Il Barbiere di Siviglia"

Charles Gounod's "Faust" (a personal favorite)
Jules Massenet's "Werther"
Jules Massenet's "Hérodiade"


I've intentionally left out any particular performances of these operas, as it's purely personal preference as to which is superior, which is the *true* performance and so on. Enjoy!

>>61842785
>personally, i cant listen to opera without seeing the performance (except for wagner)
dear god in heaven
did you see the Met's rendition of Goetterdammerung back in 2012?
the first ~20 minutes almost drove me to suicide
literally next-to-no movement onstage by the performers; almost all of the dynamics were light and/or background color changes
and the fucking mechanical horse thing
I just couldn't

>>61842862
helpful thanks

>>61842935
you're the second person to tell me this. i was looking forward to buy the dvds (that background was actually what attracted me), but i dont know if its worthy

>>61842862
Holy shit bro, not op but thx, u r keeping /mu/ a little less shitty

>>61843540
thank you friend

>>61843358
Yeah... it's really not worthy. The background unfortunately takes up too much of the spectacle. According to the director that wasn't his intention, but it happened anyway. Everything focuses around that fucking thing rotating and changing the crappy quality video it's playing.

Also, I dunno what day they were recording, but it was p funny: When I saw it, Hagen propped his shield up against a wall at some point and it fell over; and nobody acknowledged it until one of the vassals subtly, sneakily put it back up when they all rush the stage. Would be pretty great if that was in the DVDs.