HIP-HOP HISTORY CHART:

>>61792376
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=RwT0COKXFMM

>>61792376
>no turntablism or instrumental hip hop

replace run DMC with Endtroducing

Add Exmilitary by death grips.

>>61792376
add some memerap

Madvillainy
Liquid Swords
The Low End Theory/Midnight Marauders
Good Kid maad city
College dropout/MBDTF
Reasonable Doubt/Blueprint
The Chronic instead of 2001

>>61792376
Needs more Kanye.

>>61792535
most important, not best

like madvillainy is good but it didn't really influence anything or spawn any similar sounds

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Not purely hip hop, but after listening to this record for the first time (I had already been into hip hop for years) so many references and influences that I hadn't previously noticed became apparent.

>>61792376
>no Afrika Bambaataa
lmao

>>61792376
Kanye - 808s & Heartbreak
50 Cent - Get Rich or Die Tryin'

>>61792376
>>61792535
All of these and the ones in the original chart should be used. Limiting the chart to a few select albums shouldn't be done. I'd say just make the list longer vertically and put all the classic albums chronologically in order

>>61792449
Run DMC is like the MOST important album on that list. Endtroducing is a great album but what influence does it have? Essentially none when compared to the rest.

Run DMC created the entire rap image and made it cool.

>>61792554
Except youre 100% wrong. There are many Rappers today that look up to amd were/are influences by DOOM. Earl Sweatshirt, Mos Def, Danny Brown ect...

Heres a better article

http://pigeonsandplanes.com/2014/03/rappers-doom/s/peanut-butter-wolf-stones-throw-founder/

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nobody has even mentioned a Southern record yet.
god damn, you guys.

here is a pretty good chart with 100 classic rap albums on it, in some kind of order.

>>61792424
>having autism
lol

>>61792588
>The almost entirely sampled nature of ''Endtroducing.....'' was considered groundbreaking at the time of its release, and Guinness World Records has cited the album as being the first to be created entirely from sampled sources. The album was a driving force in the development of instrumental hip-hop music, inspiring several other disc jockeys and producers to create sample-based works. Tim Stelloh of PopMatters cited it as the "benchmark" for the genre. Guitarist Jonny Greenwood of English alternative rock band Radiohead has cited ''Endtroducing.....'' as an influence on his band's critically acclaimed album ''Ok Computer'' (1997), saying: "We really liked how he was cutting up beats quite minutely."

Biggie?

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Not technically hip-hop but close enough that every hip-hop fan should listen to it because it's incredible.

>>61792631
Because southern rap is literal trash. Not good lyricist, corny sounding beats, and the sound has not evolved like it has on the East Coast and West Coast. Even Midwest evolved. Yet south still stuck in mid early 2000's

808s and heartbreak

one of drake's first big singles, "find your love", was literally just a leftover from 808s

>>61792747
It's definitely the most influential album in modern hip-hop.

Spawned the successful careers of The Weeknd, Drake, Kid Cudi, and pretty much every member of Drake's record label (PartyNextDoor, Amir Obe, Roy Woods, etc).

Shit, the entire "sound" of Toronto right now is based off of 808s.

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>>61792729
there are Goodie Mob and Scarface albums on that chart i posted.

you should probably listen to them.

>>61792376
Take out Doggystyle, put in MM or TLET
>>61792535
Good choices, but 2001>TC every day of the week dude. TC aged liked shit
>>61792549
Add Late Registration
>>61792554
LOL you gotta be shitting me m8
Giant movements have happened because of that album & DOOM (Pro Era, Odd Future) and even rappers that came before that album were influenced before it came out (Mos Def, Black Thought, Ghostface Killah, Raekwon, Talib Kweli, fucking De La Soul)

That album might have single handily started the modern era of hip-hop and took us out of the bling era
>>61792563
You could make an argument for this. If not this then definitely that Fugees album
>>61792588
Fuck Run DMC, they're bustas who jerked off to Adidas and Aerosmith every night
>>61792631
Good chart right here

If we're talking southern albums add almost any Geto Boys album and Mystic Styles. Maybe throw in some UGK for good measure

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>>61792857
nah, Madvillainy didn't have the mainstream traction to pull rap as a whole in any kind of direction.

but Kanye did.

>>61792885
LITERALLY THIS

I feel like I'm going fucking crazy, "madvillainy took us out of the bling era"

the college dropout is what took us out of the early 2000s gangsta club bitches chains era

>>61792915
Yea Kanye brought us into am even worse time. Rap didnt get good again until 2012ish and with 2013 being the start of the New golden age

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>>61792915
well, that's not really true either.

snap music was a year and a half after College Dropout, and that then overlaps with Carter 2/3 and Young Money's ascendancy.
so that stuff never left.

(also pic related is a classic album too)

>>61793012
what?

>>61793012
How did Kanye make it worse?

>no disco rap, the very beginning of the hip hop genre
Shit chart

>>61793041
How did Kanye make it better? What good Rapper has he influenced into a career? Ill wait

And dont even bring up Kanye's "beats" meme. Because he just emulated what No I.D was doing before him. But you probably didnt know that

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It all started here, people.

Young Thug - Barter 6

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>>61793153
it didn't, because the Sugarhill Gang already had the Cold Crush Brothers to steal a verse from on that record.

>>61793116
>808s and Heartbreak doesn't exist

>>61793116
Almost every major rapper that started in 2008 to 2014 says that kanye was a major influence of why they wanted to rap.

>>61793116
chance the rapper
big sean
lupe fiasco
vic mensa

drake copied him
the weeknd copied him
kid cudi copied him (before he went crazy)

refreshed jay-z's career
refreshed pusha t's career

>>61793332
Still cant name one and give proof. If he has influenced actually talented artists what did he influence them by? What did they copy? Nothing because Kanye isnt original. Look up who fucking No I.D is, you will see how Kanye was a big fanboy of him. If anyone is to have been influenced Kanye its attributed to No I.D.

>>61792588
>Endtroducing is a great album but what influence does it have? Essentially none when compared to the rest.

Fucking kill yourself.

>>61793410
before I could even post it
>>61793337
Tyler the creator and logic also.
And if you listen to kanye you should already know who No I.D is.

>>61793337
No
No
No
No
No


Wrong. You backpack rappers know absolutely nothing about history in the industry. No I.D is the godfather of Chicago rap you imbecile. Kanyes name should be on that list next to those terrible rappers name.

>vic mensa
>chance the rapper

Kek hows freshman year of college?

>kid cudi
Lol great influence!

>refreshed Jay Z career

Lol its clear you dont know who got Kanye to Jay

>the weekend copied him
No not at all. You are retarded if you truley believe this.


Why are Kanyes fanboys so delusional about their "King"?

>>61792588
get off this board and fucking hang yourself you fucking pleb

>>61792376
>three feet high and rising
*de la soul is dead

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>>61793485
No ID was and is great (his work on Common's wilderness years in the late 2000s aside), but to act like Kanye wasn't ubiquitous in the life of most American rap fans growing up from 2004 onward is really, really stubborn.

here's a classic rap album.

>>61793485
>Lol great influence!
man on the moon is high tier

>>61793485
That is like saying Nas didn't influence anyone because Rakim influenced Nas.

>>61793536
i WISH this album influenced more shit

the neptunes' production style is so fucking crazy

>>61793570
>implying Clipse didn't bring out a breed of trap rap
>implying the neptunes production didn't influence many rappers with N.E.R.D

>>61793617
>many rappers
tyler the creator

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yall whack as FUCK for not mentioning this

>>61792424
I think there should be something, but I feel that there's a lack of seminal albums in the genre. Best choice would be Endtroducing IMO, but I feel that it's a bit too underground.

>>61792449
Endtroducing is a good choice, but as >>61792588 said, they're essential for understanding the evolution of hip-hop.

>>61792535
All great records, not necessarily deserving of being on a condensed list. An argument can be made for lots of those albums though, and I'd love to see you do it.

>>61792549
This thread has discussed this to death, but I'm not planning on adding any year 2000+ albums. Primarily because I don't listen to a lot of mainstream modern hip-hop.

>>61792569
I was thinking about it but it's really not essential for understanding the genre as we know it. An argument could be made for James Brown too, but is it really relevant? How far back do we want to go?

>>61792631
Southern hip-hop is largely irrelevant.

>>61792726
Good album, not deserving of being on a condensed list for understanding the progression of hip-hop

>>61793071 & >>61793153
Considered adding some Sugar Hill gang, what do you think? The Message is sorta' disco rap though.

>>61793882
Haven't even heard this one, what do the others say?

>>61792588
endtroducing has influenced a shit ton of bands mate, a lot of mucore cites at as one.

>>61792671
>hip hop fans

>>61793882
>>61794444
listen to it and thank me later

>>61792376
Needs more DJ Screw

Where's death grips?
Better than all of those elevator tier albums.