I want to make a chart for records every hip-hop fan should've heard, and needs to hear to understand the genre.
What would you add/take away? I'm largely ignorant towards west-coast hip-hop, are my choices the best ones? Is the message even relevant? Should TCQ be added?
Not purely hip hop, but after listening to this record for the first time (I had already been into hip hop for years) so many references and influences that I hadn't previously noticed became apparent.
All of these and the ones in the original chart should be used. Limiting the chart to a few select albums shouldn't be done. I'd say just make the list longer vertically and put all the classic albums chronologically in order
Run DMC is like the MOST important album on that list. Endtroducing is a great album but what influence does it have? Essentially none when compared to the rest.
Run DMC created the entire rap image and made it cool.
Except youre 100% wrong. There are many Rappers today that look up to amd were/are influences by DOOM. Earl Sweatshirt, Mos Def, Danny Brown ect...
Heres a better article
nobody has even mentioned a Southern record yet.
god damn, you guys.
here is a pretty good chart with 100 classic rap albums on it, in some kind of order.
>The almost entirely sampled nature of ''Endtroducing.....'' was considered groundbreaking at the time of its release, and Guinness World Records has cited the album as being the first to be created entirely from sampled sources. The album was a driving force in the development of instrumental hip-hop music, inspiring several other disc jockeys and producers to create sample-based works. Tim Stelloh of PopMatters cited it as the "benchmark" for the genre. Guitarist Jonny Greenwood of English alternative rock band Radiohead has cited ''Endtroducing.....'' as an influence on his band's critically acclaimed album ''Ok Computer'' (1997), saying: "We really liked how he was cutting up beats quite minutely."
Not technically hip-hop but close enough that every hip-hop fan should listen to it because it's incredible.
Because southern rap is literal trash. Not good lyricist, corny sounding beats, and the sound has not evolved like it has on the East Coast and West Coast. Even Midwest evolved. Yet south still stuck in mid early 2000's
It's definitely the most influential album in modern hip-hop.
Spawned the successful careers of The Weeknd, Drake, Kid Cudi, and pretty much every member of Drake's record label (PartyNextDoor, Amir Obe, Roy Woods, etc).
Shit, the entire "sound" of Toronto right now is based off of 808s.
there are Goodie Mob and Scarface albums on that chart i posted.
you should probably listen to them.
Take out Doggystyle, put in MM or TLET
Good choices, but 2001>TC every day of the week dude. TC aged liked shit
Add Late Registration
LOL you gotta be shitting me m8
Giant movements have happened because of that album & DOOM (Pro Era, Odd Future) and even rappers that came before that album were influenced before it came out (Mos Def, Black Thought, Ghostface Killah, Raekwon, Talib Kweli, fucking De La Soul)
That album might have single handily started the modern era of hip-hop and took us out of the bling era
You could make an argument for this. If not this then definitely that Fugees album
Fuck Run DMC, they're bustas who jerked off to Adidas and Aerosmith every night
Good chart right here
If we're talking southern albums add almost any Geto Boys album and Mystic Styles. Maybe throw in some UGK for good measure
nah, Madvillainy didn't have the mainstream traction to pull rap as a whole in any kind of direction.
but Kanye did.
I feel like I'm going fucking crazy, "madvillainy took us out of the bling era"
the college dropout is what took us out of the early 2000s gangsta club bitches chains era
well, that's not really true either.
snap music was a year and a half after College Dropout, and that then overlaps with Carter 2/3 and Young Money's ascendancy.
so that stuff never left.
(also pic related is a classic album too)
How did Kanye make it better? What good Rapper has he influenced into a career? Ill wait
And dont even bring up Kanye's "beats" meme. Because he just emulated what No I.D was doing before him. But you probably didnt know that
it didn't, because the Sugarhill Gang already had the Cold Crush Brothers to steal a verse from on that record.
Still cant name one and give proof. If he has influenced actually talented artists what did he influence them by? What did they copy? Nothing because Kanye isnt original. Look up who fucking No I.D is, you will see how Kanye was a big fanboy of him. If anyone is to have been influenced Kanye its attributed to No I.D.
Wrong. You backpack rappers know absolutely nothing about history in the industry. No I.D is the godfather of Chicago rap you imbecile. Kanyes name should be on that list next to those terrible rappers name.
>chance the rapper
Kek hows freshman year of college?
Lol great influence!
>refreshed Jay Z career
Lol its clear you dont know who got Kanye to Jay
>the weekend copied him
No not at all. You are retarded if you truley believe this.
Why are Kanyes fanboys so delusional about their "King"?
No ID was and is great (his work on Common's wilderness years in the late 2000s aside), but to act like Kanye wasn't ubiquitous in the life of most American rap fans growing up from 2004 onward is really, really stubborn.
here's a classic rap album.
I think there should be something, but I feel that there's a lack of seminal albums in the genre. Best choice would be Endtroducing IMO, but I feel that it's a bit too underground.
Endtroducing is a good choice, but as >>61792588 said, they're essential for understanding the evolution of hip-hop.
All great records, not necessarily deserving of being on a condensed list. An argument can be made for lots of those albums though, and I'd love to see you do it.
This thread has discussed this to death, but I'm not planning on adding any year 2000+ albums. Primarily because I don't listen to a lot of mainstream modern hip-hop.
I was thinking about it but it's really not essential for understanding the genre as we know it. An argument could be made for James Brown too, but is it really relevant? How far back do we want to go?
Southern hip-hop is largely irrelevant.
Good album, not deserving of being on a condensed list for understanding the progression of hip-hop
>>61793071 & >>61793153
Considered adding some Sugar Hill gang, what do you think? The Message is sorta' disco rap though.
Haven't even heard this one, what do the others say?