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Spooky edition
>Post gear
>Post desired gear
>How long have you been playing?
>Fav guitars?
>Fav guitarists?
>Projects?
>Talk about and play music
>General guitar and bass discussion

Music Theory:
>http://www.justinguitar.com/

Guitar chords and inversions
>http://www.chordbook.com/guitarchords.php

String Tension Calculator (D'Addario based):
>http://hikkyz.net/misc/stringassembler/

Floyd Rose Setup Video Tutorial:
>http://youtu.be/umY5NBKg5AA?list=PLcm7Ag6Q-OkZAmlY6dAhS2ZL9TUMeRZdI [Embed]
Steve Vai's Ten Hour Workout
>http://www.mediafire.com/download/kzw6kjuocgicwks/Ten_Hour.pdf
Guthrie Govan's Creative Guitar 1 & 2
>http://www.mediafire.com/download/bn8803xzlrbds3b/Guitar1.rar
>http://www.mediafire.com/download/9uhtufuf3z9cx8m/Guitar2.rar

Impulse Response Pack
>http://www.mediafire.com/download/svtfxjtillrdwt8/Gods+Cab+1.3.rar
>http://www.mediafire.com/download/4n28zkjw0zgmdj9/ASEM+RECTO+V30+L2.wav

Free VST downloads (amps and effects simulators):
>http://www.vst4free.com/

ASIO drivers (essential to use VSTs while playing):
>http://www.asio4all.com/

--

>Advancing Guitarist Mick Goodrick
http://www.mediafire.com/download/cvfno10fv4lf4a8
>Chord Chemistry - Ted Greene
http://www.mediafire.com/download/61n5op7eiifxztg

Others
>Mickey Baker's Jazz Guitar
http://www.mediafire.com/download/zq35xorj2iaqh22
>Modern Chord Progressions: Jazz and Classical Voicings for Guitar - Ted Greene
http://www.mediafire.com/download/oflu4wdwofhqqtb
>Jazz Guitar: Single Note Soloing Vol. 1 & 2- Ted Greene
http://www.mediafire.com/download/07o65qdh5in1nsq
http://www.mediafire.com/download/jmu86f7dj8bdxcd
>Beefhearts 10 guitar commandments
https://archive.org/post/338826/captain-beefhearts-10-commandments-of-playing-the-guitar

Previous thread: >>61765120
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Holy shit I just got an e-bow and it sounds great for shoegaze and dream pop. A little reverb and some compression and it works beautifully.
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Second for playing guitar is fun and you are all my friends.

:3
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>>61782881
Third for you're a cuck
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>>61782881
i think you and I would be friends in real life too anon
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>>61782881
BFFs
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>>61783150
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>>61782881
:3c
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For the anon that asked "why bass or guitar?"

Bassist master race reporting. I had my fun in treble with sax. The high notes were pretty but you can't feel it. I tried baritone sax (bass of the sax family) and got a boner off shaking shit and still having notes, not just noise like percussion. I got into rock and metal and the bass was a natural progression for me musically. The way the bass line can flow from rhythm to harmonic is beautiful, like an aural dance.
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Are Squier VM Jazzmasters any good?
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>>61782861
>not cross-thread replying
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>>61783304
Kinda cucky
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>>61783304
>Are ... Jazzmasters any good
no
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>>61783297
Bass is the best rock instrument to play. It's the most important instrument in the band but no one wants to play it because every faggot wants to be a lead guitarist so bassists will always be in high demand
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>>61783333
>It's the most important instrument in the band
>not the drums
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>>61783367
Drums are second. Pretty neck and neck though
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I just bought black tuning keys, bridge, control plate, string tree, and neck plate for my bass (pic related) how do you think she's gonna look?
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>>61783367
>drums most important
>giant metronome

In all seriousness though it's the parts that make the whole. I wouldn't listen to a band without a guitarist, or without a drummer. Not for very long anyways.
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>>61783532
I wouldn't listen to one without a bassist either. Unless...
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>>61783543
For techno/dance/disco sure. Keys are basically samples though. The replicated instrument loses a certain authenticity thats really important in rock and metal. That whole "real" mentality. You also lose the nuances in technique and sound that you get from a real instrument in someone's hands.
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Kill yourself synthcuck, go shit other thread
>>>/prod/
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>>61783532
>or without a drummer.

Why not tbqh?
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>>61783616
>>61783613
Keep in mind that a keyboard can cover the bass range for the band without having to emulate a bass guitar. It can be done on a piano or organ patch.
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Anyone go to the chapman guitars expedition this week? Goin on Sunday at the Whisky a GoGo, I'm preparing for Reddit tier people.

>pic related
Guitar I'm hoping to play Sunday
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>>61783616
>getting this easily b8'd
>>61783613
>Keys are basically samples though
>being this wrong

>The replicated instrument loses a certain authenticity thats really important in rock and metal.
It just sounds different, that's all. It certainly isn't a direct substitute.

>That whole "real" mentality.
Spoken like a true rockist

>You also lose the nuances in technique and sound that you get from a real instrument in someone's hands.
You lose some nuances and get other nuances (velocity sensitivity).

Besides, it can get spookily realist.
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=hQPmDlp6yJ8

>>61783642
Yeah, specially when drum machines are as sophisticated as they are nowadays.

>>61783663
Also this
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>>61783304
Jazzmasters/Jaguars are Tumblr: The Guitar
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>>61783304
I've heard they are hit and miss. The J Mascis is higher quality, minis the cheap looking pickguard.

>>61783312
>>61783329
>>61783780
don't stop memeing. hold on to that feeling

>>61782881
i can dig it

>>61783333
bass is really fun to play. quads confirms

>>61783511
it would look better if it wasn't a burst

>>61783681
give a big ol greetings for us
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Got this guitar today as a starter because I am newb. How did I do? It was 108 bucks which is good for me cause I'm poor. Also any tips for starting out/learning?
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>>61783993
learn to love bob dylan and you'll get basic song structure down

study the circle of 5ths so you figure out how western music works

advance to barre chords when you get some hand strength

don't even look up what power chords are for a year
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>>61783663
The frequency range yeah. Not bagging on keys at all but they lose a lot of the personality and feel of a real player holding a real instrument. The differences in attack, muting, accent, etc.

>rockist
Yeah, it's one of the genres negatives. Bitter closed minded elitists arguing about who's stick and strings is "real" and "true metal/rock".

>drum machines
Great songwriting tools but when I hear an entire album of the EXACT same drum sounds it gets a little boring really quickly.

>>61783642
I know there are groups out there that pull it off pretty well but there's just an appeal to someone beating the fuck out of a live kit that's awesome. I would listen to it but not for very long. I'd have to be in a chilled out mood for it.
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>>61784157
>>61783695

Dammit missed the reply.
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>>61784136
It's a good thing I like bob dylan. I learned a few chords C, G, and D today with the help of my coworkers who also play guitar (mostly metal). I'll learn some more majors and etc tomorrow I guess. Thanks for the reply.
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>>61784195
word of advice, don't get sucked into playing just metal
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>>61784209
Not quite sure what genre I want to focus on. I like metal and all but I think it'd be boring to just stick to that only.
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500 bucks

what guitar do i buy? sick of playing this awful washburn, i have an acoustic, looking to play electric a little more/better
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>>61784316
Honestly, just play whatever keeps you playing guitar.

I learned a lot of folk songs, but I'll still mess around and learn bluesy stuff and fun riffs if I get bored.
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>>61784541
i got an 80s mij tele for $500 including shipping
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>>61784541
You'll get a mexico strat for this
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I'm going to an open jamsession today night. It's my first time, any recommendations? anybody here did something like this and could share his thoughts / expiriences?
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>>61784788
Pretty sure you can nab a mim strat for $300-350
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>>61784788
>>61784864
http://losangeles.craigslist.org/sfv/msd/5402961200.html
Case in point
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I have a problem. My old Squier Strat is making a lot of noise when I plug it into an amp. It seems like the plug itself is too large compared to the cable because the noise stops when I put a lot of angular pressure on the cable. Sorry this is not clear, I am drunk. How can I fix this problem without buying a new plug, ideally?
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>>61784908
buy new plug or you'll have this problem for ever. If it's broken, it's broken. or you'll solder it, but wouldnt recommend you this if you're drunk
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>>61784891
would buy if i'd live in the us/10
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>>61784927
I'm not going to fuck with it until I'm sober but I have opened it up before and the electrical connections are okay. I just don't know how the plug itself got wider to have this problem. I have a degree is electrical engineering so I'm not afraid to fiddle with the wires but I don't think that's the problem. How much does a new plug run?
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>>61784948
Shipping costs will be higher than price for the plug.
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Hey /gg/,

Looking for some suggestions for single pickup guitars. If they're miniture that's cool also.

I'm looking for some suggestions for a friend and I, I'm looking to play some lo-fi jangle pop with one and mu friend's more into garage punk.
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>>61784975
but wold it be cheaper than getting a shop to fix it?
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>>61784985
You're an EE. c'mon
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>>61784985
ask in the chop, but if you pay like $2 for the plug and like $6 for shipping and you got fitting tools, you'll get it cheaper than in shop
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>>61782675
They're great. I ended up getting named after mine after posting clips here.
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>>61784994
I'm drunk right now dummy

>>61785000
sounds good. Shame I can't just fix the existing plug though.

You know I wasn't expecting to find this thread on /mu/ desu. I'll be back tomorrow to post my gear. I finally started working seriously at guitar like a month ago after 8 years of fucking around.

What are your guys's favorite tunings? I've been working on Ghost of Perdition lately, in open D.
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Anyone from LA that wants to jam?
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any tips for singing while playing?
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>>61785252
Where in LA?
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>>61783304
They can be pretty good, IF you restring them with 11s or 12s.
Squier stringing them with 9s straight from the factory was a cruel joke played on unsuspecting beginner guitarists.
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Thoughts on the MXR "Blue Box"?
Also, thoughts on the EQD "The Depths"?
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>>61784908
The plug itself is bad. Replace it.
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>>61784948
It could be that the contact in your input jack is bent. It happens with the cheapshit components that go onto cheap brands like Squiers.
Just open it up and bend that contact back a little bit. It takes 3 minutes to do.
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Why are Jaguars and Jazzmasters meme guitars?

>>61784978
Teles
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>>61785065
You're also a faggot and a liar.

It's ONE fucking component and two solder joints. If you're averse to doing that you're not an EE, at fucking all.
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>>61785623
I tried that before and it didn't really help.

>>61785640
I didn't say I wouldn't solder a new plug in, moron. I said it's a shame I have to get a new plug to solder in at all. The current one feels extremely loose and it's not the bendable contact as I said before.

>>61785598
I will do that.
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>>61785629
They've been meme guitars since at least the year 2000. They're not guitars so much as indie genre membership cards
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Do any of you guys use jacks like these? They have compression springs which supposedly provides secure connection to the socket. I bought a cable with these but i'm worried they might fuck up the jack socket by widening it over time
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>>61785065
>What are your guys's favorite tunings? I've been working on Ghost of Perdition lately, in open D.
A and B Standard.

>>61785846
I stopped using Planet Waves leads awhile back because they were breaking constantly.
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>>61785307
Glendale/Pasadena area
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>>61785846
No, get a good cable with Switchcraft type plugs so you can resolder them then they crap out. 99% of problems come from a cheap input jack or bad grounding.
Don't buy premolded plugs your throwing money away.
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>>61785758
What are Mustangs?
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>>61785978
>good cable
Any recommandations?
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Can someone please explain the difference between a triad and Major chord to me?
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>>61786128
Rapco, Livewire, DiMarzio(a little pricey).
I've got Rapco's that are older than most of the posters on this board and are still good cables..
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>>61786147
I'm not typing that much.
https://easymusictheory.wordpress.com/2013/06/24/whats-the-difference-between-a-triad-and-a-chord/
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>>61785538
Bump
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>>61783511
>>61783511
solid. do u got PU? also consider replacing the wiring, a cheap guitar wont come with good cables
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I was given most of these pedals by my brother in law who dosen't have time for guitar anymore because all the military traveling.

Are most of them shit? I'm pretty terrible with pedals desu
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>>61785846
>not cordial
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>>61786612
What's that red ibanez in the middle ?
I think overall you could get something out of them, they're not huge boutique pedals that will make you sound like heaven, but that's decent.
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>>61786651
Ibanez JD9 Jet Driver.

Is what it's called.
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>>61786128
cordial drumroll and jacks, just solder the thing yourself and save like 50%, dimarzio cables are indestructible tho. i've got the 3m pink one
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>>61786612
great pedals desu, save them till your brother comes back he'll be estatic
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>>61786708
but the ampeg fs and ironheart control are for specific amps i think
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>>61783543
Anyone know if this is a good quality synth? I'm buying a keyboard today at Long&McQuade
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>>61786612
The DOD and Wampler, the rest meh.
The two at the top are amp switches.
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>>61786766
88keys, weighted keys, monitor out, and ur good to go, dunno about that fa08 tho, it has been posted around /mu alot
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Would you buy this guitar?
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Are Chapman guitars really pieces of shit like everyone makes them out to be or are they actually good value?

>>61787201
Looks pretty good altough I'm not a fan of floaty trems.
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>>61787201
no the volume pot would break my fingers
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>>61787356
They have more or less the same problem as Apple, or so I've heard, they're not bad, but they're definitely not worth what you pay for.
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>>61784908
Mine did this too, I taped cardboard under the output jack so it'd be permanently angled and wouldn't cut out.
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>>61785629
>>61785758
I actually need one, and not for indie rock/shoe gazing reasons.
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>>61786612
An RV-7 served me well.
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>>61786612
yeah, they're kinda shitty
the hardwire reverb is a very good pedal
the wampler is a higher priced pedal but its basically fancy buttrock
jet driver is a tubescreamer, so its not exciting but useable, screamin blues is basically the same thing
the DOD yngwie might be fun
donner/mooer stuff is horrid
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I love offsets. I love jags and JMs.
Sound awesome, lovely tremolo system, comfortable, durable.
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>>61788127
Ooh boy, this is done primo b8 right here
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>>61783304
I have a squier JMJM and I'm happy with it. I've played the VM a couple of times and couldn't really find anything wrong with it. Play one and see if you like how it sounds/feels. Change the strings though
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why do guitar companies have such awful options for colors on their shit these days?

Fender, Gibshit, you are lucky if you get to pick between 2 colors, most lines only have one color. Usually a very turdish looking sunburst.
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>>61784908
why don't you bend the jack spring to make a more solid connection, Mr. EE
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>>61788225
why is that bait? can you tell me what is wrong with Jags and JMs besides meme hipster hating?

Jags sound bright and awesome, JMs sound big and awesome, they have a lot more options for sounds than strats or teles. Jags have a shortscale so they're easier to play for some people. You can ride the tremolo bar easier than any other guitar. They're sturdy bolt on fenders so they are durable as fuck and if something breaks, its easy to fix. The body contours make them more comfortable than a telecaster. They're not heavy.
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>>61788287
>about colors
I agree it seems guitars used to have thinner paint too. I have a friend who strips his guitars and gives it a single coating so it still feels like wood. We were confused untill the guitars were refinished and it just looks and feels more natural
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>>61788287
So they can charge extra for matching headstock and stuff like that

Also, anyone got any experience with Blade guitars? Are they comparable to Fenders in terms of neck/weight? Also, any info on Burns would be appreciated.
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>>61788346
I like jazz masters too but it's bait because it's bait, that's like going to a les Paul forum and simply announcing how much you love strats
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>Bass VI w/ all-parts buzz stop and labella flatwounds for 370€
Getting this shit on my b-day, even travelling to Hamburg to buy it
Meanwhile, do I have to get a bass amp to properly play it or is a guitar amp enough?
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>>61788370
yeah, sometimes gibshit or fender will offer 'lacquer' series of their guitars that has the thinner, more traditional paint. Most paint on sub $1500 is polyurethane which is that shitty plastic shell crap that makes them feel junky.

I think lacquer costs more because of environmental regulations. I've done a 4 guitars with automotive lacquer spray cans and they look and feel so much nicer than poly (even though they are definitely not pro jobs).
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>>61787201
I like that body shape. It's like a halfway between a strat and a LP Jr.
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https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=A-qKU8M0CSA

these are spooky
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>>61788346
Also, unlike strats the pickup switch isn't obstructive and in a shitty place.
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What exactly do the knobs do on a Jazzmaster? Specifically the ones circled here
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>>61788417
I jelly.
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>>61788834
they shoegaze
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>>61787201
>wow that's a nice looking strat, what is it like 2200? I'd buy th-
>IT'S 4000 FUCKING DOLLARS

honestly get fucked. Your guitar better be a pinnacle of design at $4000. It's not even a bolt in, it's a fucking dumb 60 year old bolt on design. IT EVEN HAS A FUCKING STRING TREE STILL OH MY GOOOOOOOOD
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>>61788847
fucking nice
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>>61788834
It's a secondary control circuit that uses the neck pickup only. They serve the exact same functions as the other two knobs: volume and tone control.
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>>61788855
Just look at the size of that fucking heel
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>>61788888

Just look at the side of those quints!
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>>61788834
the switch is for splitting pickups, and there is a master volume and tone. turn vol down and its a killswitch
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>>61788714
Kek that looks like a mosrite fused with a violin
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>>61788855
the hell is going on with the fretboard? It's like they wanted to do gibson's burned maple but said "ah fuck it" part way in

ok body shape though
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>>61784799
Bump?
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>>61788888
NICE QUINTS TO GO ALONG WITH YOUR NICE OPINION
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>>61788888
There is zero reason a guitar a that price should be worse than a $1600 PRS CE24

>>61788951
muscle BESTBROOK
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>>61787201
>Knotholes in the wood
>Half burnt fretboard
>17 accessible frets because of that huge fucking heel
>3 inch think gloss finish
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Neck through or go home.
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>>61788417
I believe the bass VI has a bass cut switch, so you should be fine with a guitar amp if you have that switched on.
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>>61788855
But it's probably one of these new state-of-the-art ¨$2000 strings trees, right...? Right?
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Not sure if shit, but here's a $200 tube amp for gguys looking. They are out there. 2x6l6 is a good way to go.

http://www.ebay.com/itm/Silkyn-SUPER-50-Tube-Amp-w-footswitch-New-In-Box-Guitar-Amplifier-Straight-Black-/321977920519?hash=item4af7612c07:g:ykcAAOSwFnFV8fYj

>>61788417
If you don't push the guitar amp hard, then there's no potential of hurting your speakers. The electronics in an amp dgaf what signal you send through. When they hit their min/max, they just distort.
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>>61789387
Get a Fender Bassman and you'll get best of two worlds
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>>61784799
I'm guessing that the music will be primarily improv-centric like jazz and blues, so here's a few basic tips:

1) Know your notes and be ready to identify keys by ear. This is especially useful in a completely improvised setting where the other musicians are playing off one musician's on-the-spot riffing. Once the rest of the band falls in behind the main melody it can be difficult for verbal communication on stage and no one wants to shout instructions over the noise.

2) Know your chords. Most of what you'll be doing is rhythm playing, so you'll want to have as much fun with it as possible. I like to approach this kind of improvised rhythm playing like a jazz guitarist comping over the melody. Understanding chords and their diatonic functions within a given key is a good way to avoid playing power chords or even basic major/minor shapes in favor of more interesting 7th and/or extended chords. They'll give the whole sound a much more interesting, jazzy vibe and you can challenge yourself to play in different registers, voicings, etc. depending on the mood of the tune.

3) If the music is especially jazz-oriented, there is an order that musicians are expected to solo in: first horns, then guitars, then keys, bass, and finally drums. At one of my first jams I took a solo immediately after the head and looked around to find all the other musicians staring at me, mouths open or laughing as I'd stepped over a trumpeter's solo spot. It was super embarrassing.

4) It helps to know a few tunes to begin with! Funk tunes are pretty popular at open jams, so knowing how to play the chords/melodies to a few of them is always beneficial. Stevie Wonder's "Superstition" or Herbie Hancock's "Chameleon" are frequent, popular choices at the jams I've attended. My personal favorite is Jaco's recording of "The Chicken".
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>>61787201
If you told me this was a $99 Rondo music piece of shit I would believe you. I'm sure it plays nice but that design is terrible, looks so cheap.
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What do you guys think of this for a guitar tone?

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=k-aRoql8F-4
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http://www.mesaboogie.com/amplifiers/electric/mark-series/jp2c/index.html

> mark 2c+ head with headphone out

Fucking no, I actually wanted to save money.
I'm getting that motherfucker for xmas.
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>>61788834
That's the special Jazz setting.
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>>61789441
These don't always pack the headroom that "bassists" expect to see anymore.

I've built a couple 5f6s. One had a stiff power supply with ss rect, and the other was all octal 5u4 rect. The latter was much better. Got any bassman model recommendations?
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>>61789528
>I'm guessing that the music will be primarily improv-centric like jazz and blues, so here's a few basic tips:
Yes, Blues/Rock'n'Roll orianted as far as I know

> Know your notes and be ready to identify keys by ear
Any tips how to do it? I did some Bluesrock/Hardrock with another guitarist for 2 years and I always tried to look on his hand, what he plays, than just try to find the scale with playing around. Is there a better way

>Understanding chords and their diatonic functions within a given key is a good way to avoid playing power chords or even basic major/minor shapes in favor of more interesting 7th and/or extended chords.
Sounds pretty useful,

>If the music is especially jazz-oriented
It isnt, and i think it's good this way haha, I dont really get an access to Jazz, I dont really understand it, and I think it's way more complicated than all this easy blues stuff

> It helps to know a few tunes
Yea, this was the only thing i was preparing since I saw some videos of past jams and they always started with some popular tune and changed it until it was something completly different
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>>61789528

5) When it comes time for you to solo, short and sweet is usually better than trying to do your best Try Anastasio impression. This will kind of depend on the vibe of the room, though. If people are digging what you are saying musically, they'll let you know it through cheers and applause, and those are great signs to keep your solo going a little longer. Ultimately, though, you'll want to be happy with what you're laying down so pay attention to what you're playing, focus on the melody (people like it when a solo sounds like it's "going somewhere") and don't blow your load all at once by jumping in with your fastest Yngwie picking pattern. Being able to hear yourself is important here, so make sure to take some time to do some of your own EQ-ing with your equipment. Most guitar players tend to just run through familiar scale shapes and licks when they can't hear themselves in the mix which can sound robotic and feel unsatisfying.
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>>61789582
I can't see it sounding the same as a IIC+/studio pre. Also the cab clone headphone out is fucking garbage.
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>>61789737
At least this time it's 4 6L6, I might get one if it's not priced too high, but I'm pretty sure it won't be the case.
I can't agree enough on the cab clone, that thing is garbage. I think one of their lastest pedals also sounded bad, so I'm not too hyped on the thing.
Mesa's going full retard these days, especially with things like making the exact same amp but with 10w more.
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Already have my dream rig

MM Stingray 5 HH
Ampeg svt pro 3
Either Ampeg 610 or 810 depending on venue.

Feels good man
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>>61789737
Yeah, I'm hoping it's close enough but who knows.

Two graphic eqs would be neat for me as I'm always fiddling with small differences between rhythm and lead sounds.
> cabclone
It ain't that shit tbqh, it's serviceable for silent practice.
It's a disservice to the amps true tone though.
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>>61789528
I've got a lot of jazz chords down. 7ths, min 7ths, 9ths, 13ths, and others. I play a fair share of skrams and math rock that is kind of a free form utilization of these. Do you have any recommendations on segueing into true jazz progressions and leads.
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>>61789817
It's $2500, $150 more than a Mark V
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>>61789817
That would make sense if one was 1 watt and the other 12ish. Otherwise just install a power soak of some sort. They have baller engineers, figure it the fuck out meh-sa.
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>>61789709
Being able to look at how other musicians are playing and figuring out the key from their hand positions is definitely useful, although keep in mind that the room may be dark and the other bass/guitar players may be across the room from you. If so, being able to identify the key from looking at the keyboard player's hands is useful. Otherwise, take a minute to think about the notes being used and see if any of them sound close to songs you are already familiar with. You can also lower your volume on the guitar and just fret a few notes until you find the tonic and then go from there. If you do this then pay attention to the rhythm and try to at least fall into the groove a little: no one wants to hear you plucking out straight E or A quarter notes while the rest of the band is grooving on a swing in Eb minor.
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>>61789907
Yeah it would, but that's not the case.
At least they didn't make a dual rectifier with 10 more watts. Yet.

>>61789858
So basically 2500$ for a modded Mark II-C+ with two EQs despite having three channels ? So far that sounds sorta retarded, but who knows it might be cool, especially if you can find one used for much less.
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>>61788834
the down position on the up and down switch engages the lead circuit, which is a traditional guitar circuit like whats found on a telecaster- the bottom toggle is bridge, both, neck and theres the traditional volume and tone knob.

the up position on the upper horn cuts the bridge pickup and the neck pickup is routed through the two horizontal dials which are tone and volume.

thats the normal setup, there have been other customizations of those controls so they do other stuff though like series/parallel switch.
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>>61789831
Hang on a sec, I'm going to post a voice recording on this since the answer is a little detailed.
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>>61789817
>>61789829
No it is shit. The tone is unusable even for practicing. It kills tone to the point where I'd rather use a VST, and that's saying something.

>>61790075
>especially if you can find one used for much less.
Just buy a Mesa Studio Preamp if you want the IIC+ tone cheap.
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>>61789823

Speaking of dream rig..

Should I..
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>>61790352
MM guy again.

I'd go for it, that's not terribly steep priced and if it's your end goal, why not?
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>>61790392

>why not

I already bought a 1k guitar a few months back. This is kind of a guilty pleasure. Can't justify myself man.
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>>61790477
If you really want the custom shop, you could sell the one you bought. I got a nice German warwick awhile back that I decided to sell for my MM. Though this is my first over 1k instrument, so it was justifiable after using shitty p-basses and ibanezs
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thinking pic related

I know the real answer is to submerge one's self like any language. But I feel with all the tools, I should be able to at least hack something together.
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>>61790815
for>>61790211
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>>61785999
Beginner guitars, but much more functional, and thus less meme-y than either of the other offsets.
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>>61790545

I don't want to sell it though, I don't want to end up being 50 and wonder where that guitar go, did it spend its lifetime playing Vai or Hendrix, none of which matters anyway.

I would probably get it after I'm don't with college, maybe as a gift to myself
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>>61785999
Sex
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>call O2 topup
>run the phone over my Jazzmaster pickups
>add delay, fuzz and general noise

madness

also fuck humbuckers
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>>61789831
>>61790211
>>61790815
Here ya go.

http://vocaroo.com/i/s09pwVUxEskm
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>>61790129
good explanation thanks. I've had a JM for awhile and never was able to figure out exactly what was happening with those switches.

Also, when the down position is engaged and I use the three way toggle in the neck pup position my signal breaks up and starts clipping and fading in and out. Is this supposed to happen or is it bad wiring?
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>>61790937
They're really cheap and I love Jangly guitars, but I already have a Single Coil guitar so I wouldn't get one.
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>>61791233
that's a good way to ruin your phone senpai, don't forget that pickups are Electromagnets.
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>>61789559
I don't know about the guitar tone, but I got to try the Fender Strat once and I was impressed by the sounds you can get out of it. It's very versatile.
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I need some help regarding alt picking, /gg/.

Pic related.
16th note triplet alt picking. Second measure is the actual goal, first is the simplification i practice (omitted the left hand - less coordination troubles).

It's a nightmare, the string change part to be precise. The requirement to change the string, and change it right, while retaining timing is proving very difficult at speeds above 100bpm, and even then it's not exactly easy to avoid click-clacks - accidental catch ups of the string by the pick when going back and forth.

I'm using very low gain like plexi sims, so that exaggerates the issues but nonetheless I find it virtually impossible to achieve my goal of being able to play that smoothly at slightly higher tempo. Do people cheat with super-high gain, echos, reverbs and shit, or am I just not brute forcing it with enough practice? And how fast can you get that kind of alt picking anyway?


I actually take lessons after self-teaching myself with no meaningful results for 2 years, but my teacher is acoustic player so quite honestly, he can't help me for shit with that kind of playing. As a matter of fact he does fast improvised lines - they just sound terrible, the sloppy fake speed kind of fast. I want to actually play fast, not just pretend to.
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>>61791807
Get a better teacher. Christ, he doesn't deserve your money
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>>61791847

Not much choice desu. I'm from south-eastern europe and it was actually pure luck I found one in the first place.
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>>61791893
We have the internet now. Get someone to teach you over skype.
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Can anyone explain the difference between a non locking trem like Fender and PRS,to a Floyd Rose?

I know on a Floyd, the whole bridge is floating, and there's lots of space to move the whole bridge up or down. But what's the difference between that and a Fender trem?

I read somewhere where you can 'deck' a Fender trem, meaning that the whole bridge is flush with the body, no room to pull up. Does that mean down tuning is as easier as a hard tail?
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>>61791310
cool. I already play Autumn Leaves in one position with little to no understanding of why the chords are what they are. I also play a few scales using chord voicing which gives me options for movement when using these chords. Diatonic is a big hollow word for me right now, but I have an idea that this may be what I'm getting started on.

I'll take a harder look at diatonic theory. I frequently attempt to play rhythm and lead simultaneously outside of a jazz context. This is something jazz guitarists really get. A more in depth look and added vocabulary can only improve playing. Cheers.
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>>61791807
start slow with a metronome. Practice it slow then move the metronome up and play it faster
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>>61784541
find a MIM tele that fell off the wall at your local music store
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>>61791893
c-cao anone, kako si
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>>61786147
A triad is just any three notes that you play at the same time. They can be in harmony, but it does not necessarily have to be so.
A major chord is the root, major third, fifth and sometimes octave of a particular scale.
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>>61791952
My teacher gives me the chance to play with people, and occasionally in front of audience. Doing that on my own or over the internet is a lot more difficult so I'll stick around for a while longer.

>>61792067
Doing it. It's just that 90+bpm is literally a wall, or a cliff.

>>61792207
He мнoгo дoбpe. I think I caught the flu.
/balk/ strong.
tri moreta btw.
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>>61791807
If it's your fretting hand that fails you, then there is no other tip than practicing and making sure your fingers move as less as possible.
If it's your picking hand then you should try other ways to angle your pick or different picks.
You can go really fast when alternate picking without drowning your playing in effects, take a listen at Guthrie Govan or Allan Holdsworth
You can also kinda cheat on the second option by using pulloffs, but that won't train your picking hand.

>>61791998
They're not the same design internally, and FRs allow for much wider movement.
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>>61792329
>It's just that 90+bpm is literally a wall
>literally

m8
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>>61791807
it's all just a matter of practicing the motion over and over again

i'm going to assume you're having problems with the transition from string to string, yea, that's going to take a while to get down. especially with strict alternate picking. you're doing two things to land the next note - you need to lift up slightly so you don't hit the high e string, and you then have to pluck the b string, all while keeping in time. it's not easy at higher, or even moderate, speeds

work on that transition lift/pluck part and try to get the feel of it, it's kind of weird and even i have problems with it sometimes

if you just can't get it down no matter how hard you practice, maybe try looking into economy picking. some people's hands work better with that style, it's kind of like a mix between alternate picking and sweep picking. like in that lick the picking pattern would be down-up / up-up sweep for the string transition / then down - down sweep for the next transition / etc
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>>61789823
Same
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Is the best way to get better at improvisation to play with backing tracks of different scales? Will it help me come up with melodies? I'm just playing notes at the moment, but they're ones I try to hear in my head first at the very least.
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I might be "jamming" with someone for the first time but I'm still not very good at guitar,

I mean what am I even going to do ffs.
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>>61792946
Bring drugs
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>>61788127
I hope you find one and enjoy it.
There are plenty of them around in excellent condition at great prices.

>>61788287
Because for all the finishes they offer, only a few colors really sell enough to make it worth stocking the paints in quantity, and they're the same old colors-red, white, blue, black, and sunburst. Nothing else is profitable enough to be more than an occasional offering every couple of years-believe me, they've tried.
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>>61791355
>I've had a JM for awhile and never was able to figure out exactly what was happening with those switches.

good lord
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Gonna buy this guitar soon. Is it any good?
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>>61792986
Different anon
I tried jamming while high like 6 months after starting and it just resulted in an awful mess, like if I had forgotten you could do anything else than 2 power chords. So basically we did very shitty sludge
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anyone else think al di meola has the most accurate and expressive picking hand?

i can't take my eyes of his right hand when he plays, it's so fucking smooth

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=DkqWn-MLGQ0
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>>61792994
Used MIJ Jags seem to be not a super pain in the ass to get, MIJ JMs are really hard to come by from my searches in the past couple weeks...at least for prices you'd think were kind of reasonable for a used MIJ guitar (600-800)

They're all over $1k from what I've seen. I was about to pull the trigger on a JM66B on reverb last night that was $1000 but it sold about 10 minutes before I bought it.
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>>61793111
It looks like shit.
Otherwise it's probably decent, I don't know. I tried a Schecter and was probably at the same time the best feeling thing in the shop but also one of the ugliest.
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>>61793111
Looks ugly, get a PRS
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>>61792946
Learn some nice chords to play for him to improvise over
>>61782634
Here's some chinese style improv on a uku
https://clyp.it/oldbkdxy
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>>61793144
i think I've heard this guys music when waiting for a customer service rep on the phone before
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>>61793173
https://www.rinkya.com/en/front/leaf/2084236872

It seems possible to grab em off here even with the $120~ shipping.
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Has anyone here ever played a Billy Corgan strat? Looks and sounds great but it's expensive and pretty much impossible to find new or used.
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>>61793191
>>61793215
I like the body shape and I thought the headstock looked cool. Is that what makes it looks like shit?
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>>61793111
It's probably a decent guitar, but it looks like a edgelord meme geetar. But if you like the look and sound of it then go and buy it obvs.
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>>61793173
https://reverb.com/item/1538747-fender-66-reissue-jazzmaster-2002-04-candy-apple-red

y/n? Sometimes i'm able to lower the price up to $50
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>>61792009
Glad I could help. Once you understand the why when it comes to jazz composition it becomes so much easier to access standards, comping, improv, etc.
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>>61793111
I'd take one that can blend in a little more, this thing has "metal" written all over it.
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>>61793341
You forgot the black "dark as my soul xDD" finish and the godawful plastic sculpture around the pickups.
And as it is a metal marketed guitar, it's probably going to be awful, even for metal.
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>>61793341
The body doesn't offend me too much, but I personally hate horned/edgy headstocks.

Honestly, I had a schecter whilst still learning and it did me good for a few years. If you like that guitar, then go for it, but it seems like the type of guitar that in 5 years time you won't like how it looks. But that's not the be all and end all.
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>>61793372
>https://reverb.com/item/1538747-fender-66-reissue-jazzmaster-2002-04-candy-apple-red
Pretty good but I hate that red. If it was fiesta maybe...but... I already have a fiesta red jag XII
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>>61788370
That makes sense, until you realize that not sounding as awesome as somebody thinks it should is not considered a factory defect worthy of free repair, while a finish wearing through is. Going to poly finishes basically eliminated those repairs, as it's much less temperamental to apply, less fragile and environmentally hazardous than nitro, all with the added benefit of being cheaper too.
For all guitars under $1000 where the consumer just wants a regular production model, it's a no-brainier.
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Anyone else /not really feel the need to buy new gear because you're comfortable with your current rig/ here?
Like, I'm sure I could sound better with a Sunn stack but it feels so "normal" to play my current, imperfect setup that even when i try out nicer equipment I don't like it as much.
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>>61793493
Then this white one?

https://reverb.com/item/1534543-fender-jazzmaster-93-94-fujigen-low-price-japan-mij-cij

Just hound the guy to lower it until it goes $800
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>>61793495
I've never heard of anyone ever getting a 'free repair' or making a warranty claim because lacquer paint isn't as durable. Thats a load of horseshit.
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>>61793428
>>61793341
This.

Get something with a bit more range. Metal guitars are generally not great, but fine if you only want to play metal. I used to be like that years ago, but as my tastes grew, my enjoyment for playing metal faded.

Again, get something you can use for a variety of styles.
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>>61793499
I'm happy with my set-up at the moment. I really would like to get the Polytune Noir but other than that...
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>>61793343
>>61793428
>>61793451
>>61793481
At least it's not as bad as this one, right guys?
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>>61791097
That's a pretty good plan. You doing music in college? I'm a junior doing jazz bass performance and music pedagogy.
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>>61793499
i know my gear and how it will react, i could use a couple different types of pedals for some more texture, but overall i'm perfectly fine with what i have.

my guitars are a different story, i plan on getting a custom neck for my tele because i really don't like the size of the frets or the radius of the board
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>>61793579
It's worse, at least this one has the inline headstock.
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>>61793499
The brain likes things it knows. Hearing your current gear regularly will please your ears more than different gear. If you like your gear, stick with it.
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>>61793552
Well, it's not my first guitar, but it will be the one I use primarily for metal. I have others that are more universal.
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>>61793579
That one at least has a nice headstock
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>>61793341
>>61793111
How much does it cost or what is your budget for a new guitar?
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>>61793499
Nothing wrong with that m8. There are a few pedals I want to try but my $500 Epiphone explorer won't ever be replaced unless it bursts into flames or something
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>>61788834
Rhythm circuit. The two rollers are dedicated volume and tone controls for said rhythm circuit.

Hit the switch next to the rollers and it disables all the lower controls and pickup selector and just goes to the neck pickup only. The controls are a different value as well, so that you only get about half the volume out of the guitar with the switch engaged.
If you're an experienced pro, it makes for an easy way to go from rhythm work to solos and back again, but if you're a kid who just wanted to bash out punk on something cheap, the switch really gets in the way of your playing. Which is why a lot of the grunge heroes had the rhythm switches taped off on their guitars.
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>>61793579
I find guitars with sharp edges, horns, Vs etc. are impractical and uncomfortable. I enjoy sitting back in a chair noodling around on a guitar and to do that I need a comfortable, user-friendly design.

Plus those OTT metal guitars are an eyesore, people will judge you before to even hit a string. I've seen amateur gigs and some guy will pull out a BC Rich or something. Inevitably, I am drowned in power chords and open chugs.
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>>61793610
Even if it's just for metal, you can get something a little better. Ever thought about an Ibanez?
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>>61793499
I own an Ibanez GRG. If the frets weren't so fucked and the bridge not misplaced it would be a pretty good guitar actually, the neck is quite comfortable and the contours decent. I'll still keep it when I'll have something better, so that I can use a guitar for weird mods.
But yeah I probably wouldn't spend more than 1,3k for a rig that I'd like.

>>61793707
Vs are meant to be held in the classical position, unlike a strat or LP, they're pretty comfortable that way.
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>>61788855
>>61788926
>>61788888
>>61789010
>>61789095
>>61789558
>being this mad at something they don't own and will likely never see in real life
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>>61793776
>expecting rational thought on 4chan
rofl u look soooooooooooo stupid right now
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>>61793579
that looks pretty gay famo
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>>61793757
>Vs are meant to be held in the classical position, unlike a strat or LP, they're pretty comfortable that way.

you can just use a strap on those guitars while sitting down and you can easily play in a classical position

i don't know why so many people don't use a strap when sitting down. there's no possible way to hunch over if you wear a strap (correctly) when sitting down. it looks kind of stupid i guess, maybe that's why people don't do it, but who cares? you're at home practicing
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Is the Orange Crush20 the best sounding bedroom amp in the $150 range?
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Real life LEGENDARY WEAPONS?
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>>61789689
Vintage, and for bass use?
The SF Bassman 100.
Seriously.
It's everything bassists loved about the old Dual Showman amps-namely, the three-knob Fender tone stack and 100 watts of headroom-with the beefier transformers of the SF era and none of the shit they didn't need, like reverb and tremolo.
It's no PS400, PS300 or SVT, but for club-volume gigs, you STILL can't go wrong with one, especially through a modern 8x10 cab.
For guitar use, the most celebrated Bassman model is the 5F6-A that gave birth to the Marshall and Sunn Model T, but every era of Bassman with 50 watts or less sounds pretty awesome in its own way, from the screaming overdrives of the jumpered SF and BF circuits to the raw distortion of the tweed models.
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>>61794034
>Lucille
how original
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>>61793545
It wasn't horseshit 45+ years ago when Fender and other big makers made the switch to poly.
And if you think people don't bitch about shitty nitro finishes, then you've never seen a discussion on a guitar board where Gibson's QC has ever been discussed, and you should lurk more.
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>>61793979
I don't know if it's the best, but it's a good choice if you can get a new one at that price. Beats all those amps with a bajillion knobs and useless presets.
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>>61793776
I have two guitars priced higher than that one, It's still shit. You probably don't have a guitar half that price, and you also probably really suck at playing what you do have. Get gud
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>>61794923
>still being mad at nothing in particular
>and for no reason
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>>61794634
Lacquers/nitro weren't/aren't as durable but the notion that people were taking their guitars back to get refunds because they were 'wearing through finishes is complete horse shit.

Nitro/lacquers stopped being used widely in the late 60s, then polyester became the norm, then polyurethane in the late 70s.

People pay a PREMIUM to have their shit painted in the traditional manner with nitro these days retard.
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>>61794960
nobody is mad, just guffawing at how shit that guitar is for $4000
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What's the best 12" speaker to run a 50 watt head through, I have a vox night train 50 and plan on buying an orange rockerverb 50 at some point
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>>61795001
im trying to use a 1x12 so I want a speaker rated for over 50 watts
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>>61794988
if your point is people are mongoloids for wanting nitro finishes then yes, you are indeed correct
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>>61795001
>>61795026
Just curious, why do you want to run a 50 watt through a single 12" speaker?
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There's a digech polara and a tc electronic T2 used at the shop near me. I can only buy one.

Help me /GG/, you're my only hope.
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>>61794988
Hence why I put the sub-$1000 language in my original post, retard.
I agree that it's now a "premium" feature that people will pay for, but for most people who don't care about (or can't afford the extra expense of) nitro finishes, modern finishes are better at being actual finishes than nitro ever was.
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>>61795290
Polara
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>>61795290
the t2 for getting weird
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>>61791162
Is that one of the recent Japanese Special Runs? That's what I have, absolutely delicious little guitars.
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>>61783203
How are those guitars? A shop near me had one that looked like a nice player for only a couple hundred bucks but I'm lefty so... ya.

>>61783304
Not in my opinion. They can be good modding platforms, but that's it. New bridge and new pickups would be the minimum, but they could honestly do with upgrading everything besides the body/neck. J. Mascis JM is like twice the guitar for only a hundred more and is basically the same quality as classic vibe teles, maybe even a bit better. JMJM with upgrades is better and cheaper than the classic play or classic 60's JM.

>>61783993
If there is nothing wrong with it, that is probably a good price, I mean even the lowest end epiphone acoustics seem pretty okay to me, definitely worth 100 bucks if you are new and want to get playing for cheap. Start out learning open chords and power chords. Its the fastest way to get some good sounds out of the thing. While you are trying that, just practice basic technique stuff to build your dexterity and finger independence. The justinguitar site at the top is a decent place to start and from there you can decide what to learn or if you want a teacher. Once you have started getting decnet enough to play without stumbling over yourself constantly, start to learn about music and how to train your ears so that you can reverse engineer songs and learn from them.

>>61784541
Depending on what you play, a MiM strat/tele from 2006-prresent is probably the best guitar you can get that has resale value. If you don't know how to read serial numbers, just look for one that has the new style logo on the headstock that is black and gold instead of silver. Where I am from, one pops up on CL for around $250-300 every few weeks. If its just black, its a squier, don't buy if for MiM prices. Made that mistake with a guitar that somebody sanded the small squier logo off of back when I didn't know they ever made squiers that said fender with a small squier logo.
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>>61794824
Do you think the 20RT is worth the extra $40?
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>>61795731
I like the Aria a lot. It's getting looked at by a luthier to get some electronics stuff worked out on it. Just need to get the pickup switch fixed and clean up the knobs and it'll be 100% again. I like it a lot. Finally gonna get some 11s on it because it has had 9s. Will really feel comfortable playing it now when it's ready.
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>>61795500
Modern finishes are better anyways, nitro does nothing but make your guitar age faster and be a bitch for the people who have to apply it. There is no tone difference. Anyone that says otherwise is bullshitting. Ask John Suhr. The only difference is how much protection it will offer on your guitar, and nitro is the worst.

Poly finishes don't leave solvents as they cure(you can light a curing nitro guitar on fire really REALLY easily), they are easier to bring to a very shiny gloss, they are much stronger.
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>>61795621
It's a Japanese 69 reissue that they did for the beck movie. It's pretty fucking great though.
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>>61795906
Pic for clarity
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>>61795906
That's really cool, I've never seen the Anime, but i read some of the Manga, never knew it was that colour, really funky, I dig it man.
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>>61795994
Thanks man. Digging the candy apple mustang you have and that strat and reverb are fucking radical.
Hoping to get my first real amp later today actually. 59 reissue bassman.
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>>61795598
>>61795543

50/50 split? To YouTube!
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>>61795747
If i'm not mistaken you get a reverb and a tuner for the extra $40, is that it?
If so, it's not really worth it.
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https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=mS7FzAYc0rI

>Lee is 10x better at guitar than Chapshit now

I have no idea how that balding retards ego is still intact
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>>61796141
I hate that fat cunt
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>>61796141
he always was because he actually plays with a hint of taste, they're both shit though

also those guitars are horrible for the price they're selling them at
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>>61795994
They never got to the part where he buys the mustang in the anime but it should've had a few color pages in the manga.
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>>61795621
This is a really good picture man, good job.
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>>61796125
Yeah, just tuner and spring reverb. Thanks for the advice.
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>>61796176
BUT HAVE YOU CHECKED OUT THEIR TONE CITY PEDALS, GREAT VALUE
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>>61796207
Thanks man, just used VSCO on my wee phone.

>>61796045
I ended up having to return the Deluxe, a lot of the new Fender amps are having some issues straight out the box, make sure to have a good play on a 59 before buying one! Jelly of the 59 though, they are on another level.

>>61796188
Ahh, I never got to that part then! Really cool colour though, never seen it before.
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>>61793296

Why not just get a white, maple neck mexi strat and throw a set of hot rails in it?
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>>61793979

It's pretty meh, but as far as practice Amps go it's not bad. I'd look at the Roland cube series and the peavey bandit series as well.
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>>61796266
yeah, im planning to. they have a p bass I'm sorta interested in a bit so I'll test both out at the same time.
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>>61796395
I'll check those out, still a week away from purchasing. The other one I was considering is the Marshall MG15CFX.
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>>61796225
>spring reverb
uh... i doubt an amp at that price would have a spring reverb.
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>>61796494
The 20RT is $190 and MusiciansFriend says it has digital spring reverb.
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>>61796141
I don't really watch YouTube but I thought these guys gave decent reviews. Is there a better channel around for gear?
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>>61796637
proguitarshop's andy
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>>61795500
>being this new to guitar culture fetishes
you have a lot of tgp browsing to do
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>>61796637
Andy from PGS
I also enjoy ChicagoMusicExchange
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Why do they ruin mustangs with that stupid racing stripe?

This one is so nice.
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>>61797002
because it was designed as a student guitar and that was added to it to entice people in their teens to get one. all there is to it.
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>>61797002
Racing stripes makes you faster, just like ferrari red. That's why you don't see any virtuoso on them, it makes the job too easy.
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>>61797002
The stripes make the tone better.
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How much should I pay for this GG
Laney head Russian tubes (presumably sovtek) and a fender cab. He wants me to name a price. It's gorgeously loud.
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>>61797296
about three fiddy
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>>61797231
>dat hagstrom
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>>61797296
$300-400 for the amp depending on the condition
no idea about the cab
the gh 100 is pretty neat
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>>61797231
Beautiful tele
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>>61796551
digital spring reverb = emulation of an actual spring reverb
But for all i know both could sound the exact same
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>>61796176
more like
>they're both shills

there's no need to go the extra mile or hire better musicians when two guys fucking about sells the same crap
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>>61797002
they're called tonestripes, retard
the improve tone and sustain
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>>61795290
I have a t2, it has longer decay time, the polara is like a more expensive RV-7, so the reverse setting can do shoegazy stuff.

>>61795598
The t2 is really good for that, you can do a lot of different stuff with it.
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>>61794131
>not getting that the frame is paying tribute to multiple musicians
pre law isn't going well, is it?
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>>61796917
Oh, I know all about them.
I just don't subscribe to them, because I'm not 18 and impressionable anymore.
After I converted my "bad old days" MexiStrat to the original electronics specs and got told by a self-proclaimed tone freak "wow, you must've gotten one of the really good ones", I decided there was a lot more bullshit than knowledge floating around about electric guitars.
Then when my brother started making guitars as a hobby and made an oak-bodied guitar that sounded better than most guitars costing less than $3000, I decided there was just as much bullshit surrounding acoustic guitars.
And so far, my experiences after those decisions has only proven me right.
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>>61797231
hey i've seen you post this pic before ages ago, do you have any closeups of that strat? What is it exactly?
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>tonewoods
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Bg7U7wVEeeY
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>>61798995
>tonewoods
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=UA3Qah6z1gg
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Anyone know where in Europe the Hagström Northern series are built?
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>>61798979
Sure do, it's a John Cruz 63. Sadly not a vintage instrument, but as close as it gets without breaking 5 figures!
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I usually try to keep my thumb pretty centered on the neck, but soon as I hit 12th position using my pinkey I can't reach the top 2 strings effectively. Is this normal and everyone just has to find what works for them, or are there some tricks to playing up the neck without putting your wrist in a fucked up position?
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>>61799071
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>>61798995
oh god that sounds terrible....
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>>61799071
Bit of a better look at it.
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>>61799077
>I can't reach the top 2 strings effectively
do you really need to?
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>>61799110
Because of shitty playing, no wonder without a fretboard. see: >>61799023
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>>61799156
not too impressed by the sound either..
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>>61799150
I have no idea. I do like some of the sounds you can get by playing up there. Just trying to be complete.
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>>61799107
>>61799131
>>61799071

Thanks, looks incredbile dude. I'm not really into the whole reliccing thing but your Strat looks sweet, great sunburst. I personally like 70s and 80s Japanese stuff to not break the bank, Fernandes and shit
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>>61797002
Because regular Mustangs suck.
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>>61799232
The point is, they don't sound incredibly different to a wooden instrument, which debunks the whole tonewood argument. If wood really made an audible difference then an instrument without ANY proper resonant body should sound completely different.
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>>61799268
>80s Japanese stuff to not break the bank
there's a guy on here with an 80s japanese strat that's pretty nice
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>>61798995
very cool, 5K for a steel pipe
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>>61798576
>more bullshit than knowledge about electric guitars

This is why I stick to talking about theory and composition in /gg/.
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>>61799311
>2k for a slab of wood
Isn't that much better desu.
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>>61799268
Thank;s man. I'm not into heavy relics but this one was just right, back of the neck is real nice. The faded 2 tone burst drew me to it, like Frusciantes Strat, but under direct light you can see the red pop though, its a great instrument.

Most of my other guitars are Japanese, for me they are the best quality for your money, I'd only buy American if I was looking for Nitro finish.

I used to have >>61795994 which was my go-to 60s/70s style strat.

You should post some pics of yours, I'd love to see em.
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>>61799251
i usually try to avoid playing thicker strings on those frets. the frets are pretty close to each other, its less confortable than lower down on thinner strings and if there really is no other option you can usually let your first two fingers take over

>>61799285
i got a few problems with this
-they do sound different and i have never come across a non wood instrument that really blew me away like other (wood) guitars
-no one who believes in tonewood properties thinks that tonewood is responsible for a great amount of sound. Everyone says that tonewood is one of the smallest influences after things like electronics and strings
>-without ANY proper resonant body
drop that shit on a tiled kitchen floor and tell me there is no resonance after hearing it ring out loud enough to fucking awaken lemmy

>>61799359
3K better at least desu
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>>61799071
Another shot, taken by the shop I purchased it from.
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>>61799504
Best neck I've ever played.
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>>61799309
I've probably seen it, I have a bunch of them myself. Pic related, my Suzuki Strat with D.Allen pickups, Fender MIJ 1989 and Condor Corporation Strat in the middle, early 80s
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>>61799387
not to derail your relic strat love, but i really love the look of marshalls that arent the standard marshal colors. Wanna get one in a red cabnet just bc it looks cool

>>61799496
>Everyone says that tonewood
meant "everyone who says that"
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>>61799311
Actually no.

It's 6K for a TITANIUM pipe.
Apparently the maker didn't want his very expensive custom pipe to rust.
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Ordered a 5 string Stingray today :)

I have room for one more pedal on my board. I'm thinking chorus, but I have reservations because I play black metal and death metal and I don't often hear chorus in those genres even though I love the effect
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>>61799571
what a dumbass, he should just spray some WD40 on it after playing
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>>61799636
>tone lube
Please let this become a thing
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make a new thread already
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>>61799675
magnesium would obviously be the superior tone lubricant

>>61799701
you have hands, don't you?
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>>61799701
oh wait we're only on page 3
wait until we're at page 6
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>>61799610
There may be a reason why.
IME, effects like chorus, phase and flanging are used more to add the perception of "motion" to your sound when you're playing lots of sustained or repetitive parts. It helps to keep otherwise boring parts interesting.
If you're playing a lot of technical bits that are pretty interesting in and of themselves, the effects just get in the way.
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>>61799610
get a real subtle chorus then. It can give you a nice shimmer on your higher frequencies. No need to spend tons on a really spacey one.
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>>61799701
Do it your own fucking self.

>>61799711
It would, but I fear for the players of that thing who are under really hot lights.
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>>61799746
>>61799752
What are some good subtle choruses?
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NEW BREAD

>>61799829
>>61799829
>>61799829

NEW BREAD
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>>61799795
not entirely sure. I just needed a cheap one, so I got a joyo, and i keep it toned down, but it has a jump in output which is annoying
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>>61799782
But they'll get just the perfect warm overdrive.
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>>61799795

Most choruses with a depth knob that you can turn down are more than subtle enough. But try the stuff out first-you may find that you like a stronger chorus effect in the stuff you play.
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>>61799569
For yous, anon. At Chicago Music Exchange. Late 60's Marshall Super Lead/Bass, can't remember. Had to crop pic because it was too big, but there's a second flat-face matching 4x12 below the slant. Boner material, for sure.
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>>61799858
...and explode into a ball of white-hot liquid fire that turns them into ash at 1200C.
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>>61799937
Someday man .. I have a small laney stack and head but someday I'll have a full marshal stack.
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>>61800185
Fucking likewise. Orange and purple are my favorite non-black tolex colors for Marshalls. Frusciante's silver jubilee is also awesome. Not to mention his sexy Fiesta Red 62 strat.
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>>61784541
mim stratomcasticle best guitar Ive played for that kind of money, though it depends; what sort of things you want from a guitar? to shred all day or play blues etc etc
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>>61792946
if your mate can play solo shit, learn some open chords, and obviously barre chords so you can be his rythm bitch.
>my dad used to do this to me, that feel
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>>61798995
genuinely not baiting you,(though I may have just decided to chew on your fishing rod for a bit, granted), but that sounds like it has that little extra high end you hear in metal acoustic guitars, the ringing, if you know what I mean.

I remember reading that "tonewoods" are a thing but the impact it has is no where near significant when compared to nut / bridge material, pickups etc.
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>>61799937
>>61800185
Yea, I've seen that on reverb/the CME site several times. Pretty sure they're trying to sell it for about $13,000
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>>61800850
>compared to nut / bridge material, pickups etc.
What about fret material?
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