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>"music is only good if it has lyrics"
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>"lyrics matter"
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I like this thread so far. It is a good thread.
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>>61767429
>"dave grohl is the best musician of our generation"
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>"I can't think of a single good woman musician"
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>music is good
https://clyp.it/zignbcct
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>>61767429
>>61768580
>lyrics don't matter
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>you only don't like x because you're jealous
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>>61768642
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>>61768642
youre not fooling anyone mr reddit man
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>lyrics don't matter lol

instant red alert, every time

if you can't into lyrics, leave them out
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"i need the uncensored version and will never settle for anything other than"

"this is a great band, its like dream theater but"
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"it doesnt have to be like a super high quality rip, just as long as someone put it on limewire and i can listen to it"
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>"lyrics don't matter"
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>>61768642
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>"lyrics don't matter"

literally worse than poptimists
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>"lyrics don't matter"

I bet the music experts on this board who say stupid shit like that thinking they have such great taste haven never even listened to an opera.
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>>61769968
Aren't most of those in Italian?
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>>61769993
Your point being?
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>>61767429
>Why isn't it in English
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>>61767429
>music
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>>61770019
I don't think most italian americans can speak italian anymore let alone regular americans.
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>Bowie dies
>everyone now cares about lyrics
>mfw
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>lyrics don't matter
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>>61770060
Too bad for them.
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>>61767429
>It's hard to find good music
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>>61767429
>i only listen for the beat
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>>61770062
I had already grown out of Bowie before he died

lyrics are still important
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>>61770077
>>61770088
holy fucking shit
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>music
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>lyrics don't matter
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>What are we even listening to?!
>Your music is weird
>This guy's voice is terrible
>It's literally just noise
>Ugh! This is so boring
>Don't let anon play music, he has bad taste
>How do you listen to this on a regular basis?
>Why is this guy trying to save Anne Frank? Is he some sort of pedophile?
>The lyrics don't even make sense
>Could we turn on something else? This is giving me a headache
>Oh yeah! I'm into music. I listen to System of a Down, Nightwish, Tool, Amanda Palmer, and some others you've probably never heard of
>I'm really into symphonic metal
>Does listening to this make me emo?
>You listen to this? Hahahahahahaha
>Have you ever heard of My Bloody Valentine?
>Joy Division is the best band ever
>You're such a hipster
>Does listening to this make me a hipster?
>You belong in an indie band
>I listened to this band called Andrew Jackson Jihad and they're like the best thing ever
>What does your shirt say?
>Why are you wearing band shirts of bands that no one listens to?
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>>61767429
i hate music with lyrics t-b-h
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>>61770088
What's more important in a song? The ability to write music or the one to write peotry?
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>>61770131
But to say that lyrics don't matter with music that has a lyrical component is fucking asinine, right?
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>lyrics don't matter
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>>61770163
it really depends on the lyrics themselves i think
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>>61770233
What the fuck does that mean? The lyrics only matter when they're good? That's stupid.
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>hates on bands just for being less famous than the rolling stones
>"I can't understand them cause they're screaming"
>"your music's so dark, you must be dark too"
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>>61770274
well youre talking about lyrics so yea it depends if they are good

if you were talking about the voice being an instrument and without it the music suffers then i agree with you
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>>61770088
>grown out of bowie
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you fucking retards, you can't say "lyrics matter" or "lyrics don't matter" like they're statements that apply equally to every genre of music.

like it or not, lyrics are way more important in the rap scene than in, say, electropop.

I also hope that nobody is implying that lyrics are, in most cases, more important than instrumentation and even passion in the vocals itself. If you're going to argue that lyrics are so important, go read fucking poetry or a novel; literally everything other than lyrics is what separates music from those mediums.
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>>61770088
>i now listen obscure and mature music guys!
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>>61770151
the music is priority

and the lyrics become a part of that, if you decide to add vocals

so if you decide vocals will play a part in the music, make sure you can write or make the lyrics abstract enough to not offend the listener

but to put it simply

yes, instrumentation almost objectively beats "poetry", but poorly written lyrics can destroy the emotion that builds around the sound

good lyrics on the other hand can absolutely transform and elevate the ideas behind the music (provided they play a role and don't just get in the way).
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>>61770443
if the poetry requires music it is not complete poetry
if the music lacks for lyrics it is not complete music
to clarify, i agree with you
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>>61770443
if the poetry wants for music, it is incomplete poetry
if the music lacks for lyrics, it is incomplete music
in other words, i agree wit u
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>>61770507
>and the lyrics become a part of that, if you decide to add vocals
Not really, if you listen to songs in a foreign language you don't understand, in this case lyrics don't matter. Adding vocals is like adding another instrument and it should be judge for its acoustic value.

>good lyrics on the other hand can absolutely transform and elevate the ideas behind the music
Agree on this one a bit, but if the music performance is a completly terrible good lyrics won't help that much. Lyrics are like an icing in the cake or an extra seasoning in a stake, it really isn't necessary but it may be a nice touch if added properly. I'd MIGHT care about lyrics if only artist/band did a good job on the music.
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>>61770800
i really like to listen to music in languages i dont understand its just great
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>>61770726
please shut up
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>>61771145
you're a fucking autist who doesn't understand the purpose of music if that's sarcasm
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>listening to music
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>>61770274
No. Lyrics only matter when they're the focus of the song.
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>>61771237
no im being serious i love it

my favorite part of the worlds music to listen is the middle east
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>>61771350
Like that smooth mcgroove terrorist music?
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=m_tjxz4yS_U
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>>61771387
i like arabic traditional music with instruments more

but nasheed do sound great most of the time too
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>>61770800
>I'd MIGHT care about lyrics if only artist/band did a good job on the music.

yeah, that's what I was referring to here

>>61770507
>poorly written lyrics can destroy the emotion that builds around the sound

back to this
>>61770800
>if you listen to songs in a foreign language you don't understand, in this case lyrics don't matter. Adding vocals is like adding another instrument and it should be judge for its acoustic value
while this is technically true, it should also be said that music in a foreign language exists in it's own realm until you actually learn it

ideally speaking, this is how all music with vocals should be judged. BUT, that's impossible if you're going to be true to yourself. Not only that, but judging vocals based on their acoustic value is something your brain automatically does anyway. The lyrical content itself is something you can't just push away. A perceptive listener can and will find it very hard to listen to music with idiotic lyrical content. It doesn't matter how good the instrumentation is.

This is where I'd draw the line on the value of lyrical content

If you're judging it on musical terms, you can forgive the lyrics itself and focus more on how the vocals are DELIVERED:

If you're look at something as art, as a whole, then lyrics will absolutely matter to you. Of course, the above mentioned importance of how well the vocals work with the instrumentation also plays a role. This particular perspective of looking at things is the most "whole" but also the one where a certain amount of subjectivity bleeds into the picture.

anyway, like mentioned before. The listener who's more interested in the artistic perspective, can typically only enjoy music with lyrics that they believe in, lyrics that are too abstract to make sense of, or lyrics that are sung in a foreign language that they can't be bothered to translate.
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>>61768632
nice tripcode
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>>61769861

"like dream theater but good"
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"You have bad taste; I don't".
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>>61768598
ONLY TRUE ROCKER STILL ALIVE
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>>61771516
>. A perceptive listener can and will find it very hard to listen to music with idiotic lyrical content.
I remember listening to song where the singer was only singing "ONE TWO THREE" over and over again. It is stupid but the way the singer delivered was amazing.

>If you're look at something as art, as a whole, then lyrics will absolutely matter to you.
If an artist depends on lyrics so much to represent their emotions, then I guess the artist isn't very talented. As I sayed before, lyrics are a nice unnecessary touch that the artist gives, they are like extra points only if excellent.
An well known example is American Football, what really highlights the album is the instrumentation, it sets the mood and the emotion of each song. Early demos only show the intrumentation and not really the lyrics. The lyrics were written later just to fillup everything.
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>>61770443

seconded
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>>61771387
nice
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>>61770121
I feel you man I feel you
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>>61767429

my flatmate says this to me whenever I show him a new tune I've made.
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>>61768598
Do people actually blieve this? The foo fighteres were a souless nirvana cover band which evolved into just a shitty band
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>"music can be good without lyrics"
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>>61772158
>I remember listening to song where the singer was only singing "ONE TWO THREE" over and over again. It is stupid but the way the singer delivered was amazing.
That's because you were perceptive to the technical side. This is completely normal.

>If an artist depends on lyrics so much to represent their emotions
I don't really know any artists that do this

the importance and value of the lyrical content is completely up to the listener to decide, as referred in the last sections of my previous post
>>61771516

As also referred in in
>>61771516

it depends on how you're listening to the music and what you want to take out of it.

If ONE TWO THREE is delivered really well, you're appreciating the technical qualities, the skill, the acoustic qualities, the musical qualities

If ONE TWO THREE speaks to you on a personal level (and sounds good on a musical level), you're appreciating the artistic qualities

if the meaning of ONE TWO THREE is kind of lost on you, but you still find that it speaks to you on some abstract level (and sounds good on a musical level) then you're appreciating the artistic qualities


lyrical content has the capability of making or breaking someones interest in a song, it has the capability of destroying an intended atmosphere underneath the vocals (although this is up to the musician to decide, in retrospect)

Vocals can be an unnecessary touch, but that means the lyrical content is probably shit. It doesn't devalue the instrumentation on a technical level, but it destroys the harmony and entirety of the song on an artistic level.

Lyrics can can't save bad instrumentation/production, but they can elevate great instrumentation to a level that's arguably not otherwise possible. (If combined with thought)
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>how can you listen to this the singer sounds like the cookie monster
>can you even understand what they're saying
>I dont like screamo
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>>61770151
Depends on the genre. In something like folk or a rock ballad the lyrics will matter more. Most cases the music matters more than the words.
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ITT: GOAT "mainsteam" songs
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>>61768644
>What is alopecia
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>back when music was good
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>>61770121
>Why are you wearing band shirts of bands that no one listens to?
holy shit do people really say shit like this?
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>when are you going to grow out of metal?
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>>61770121
dude there was this feminist girl who was really into me and she was obsessed with AJJ and I ain't been able to go near his music she scarred me
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>>61770443
well damn said
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>>61772939
>I dont like screamo
What's wrong with this one? Why does everyone else have to like the genre you like?
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>>61773182
A great album
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>>61775286
well when are you?
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>>61770107
That's a song with great lyrics, I agree
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"Rock n Roll is the only good music"
"Rock and roll is dead"
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Hip Hop is all about beats not lyrics
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what kind of music do you like?
>i like everything
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