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daily reminder that this exists https://www.youtube.com/playlist?list=PL8FF34F57653610C3
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listening to this thing either way http://www.universaledition.com/Pierre-Boulez/composers-and-works/composer/88/work/2468

thought i'd heard most boulez works but this one doesn't ring a bell
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What're some good recordings of his sonatas?
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tfw you might get to study composition with a good composer
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>they're both dead
;_;
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>>61758601
>tfw your teacher studied with Stockhausen
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Reposting here

Will we ever see piano work as good as Rachmaninoff's again?

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=yJpJ8REjvqo
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>>61758666
dude nice are you at uni?
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>>61758826
Yeah. I have a prof who studied with Grisey too. Another with Alan Forte and one was taught by two of Schoenberg's pupils.
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>>61758861
You're going to write extremely esoteric atonal music that will only be listened to by the the "enlightened"

Those people are responsible for the death of western art music in exactly the same way bebop is responsible for the death of jazz.
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>>61758929
This

Film and television soundtracks are the true successors to previous periods
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>>61758861
fuck idk where this is
mcgill or something? cal arts?
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>>61758929
>grisey
>esoteric
nice try but if you can't enjoy grisey you're certifiably a pleb
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>>61759054
film and television music usually consists of shitty rip-offs of actual classical music from the 20th century

see: the soundtrack to lost

or for a more concrete example, see 2001 a space odyssey where kubrick literally didn't use somebody's score because it was just a shittier version of the actual classical music he used instead
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>>61759968
I don't mind him I guess, but my point still stands. Normies will absolutely hate him, which makes it esoteric.

MEDIOCRE
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>>61759995
>shitty rip-offs of actual classical music from the 20th century
This can be disproved by example. I point to almost the entire OST of Battlestar Galactica

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=FYwpt092O7U

If this is ripping something off its doing a damn good job. Not film's fault that actual classical music shat the bed in the second half of the century.
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>>61759995
>but muh LOTR leitmotifs
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Reminder that Beethoven's Mass in C is underrated and better than the Memessa Solemnis
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>>61758601
>introduction to composition
>you have to bring your compositions
If you're already composing why do you need to take an intro course?
It's like those entry-level dishwasher fastfood jobs that require 3 years of experience.
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>>61761456
Get a trip CLT!
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>>61761456
Just because you were obsessed with the missa solmenis, doesn't mean everyone else was. I couldn't really care less about Beethoven's vocal music
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>>61762490
>le beethoven's vocal music was bad maymay
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Johann Sebastian Bach
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>>61764392
nice
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>>61758601
Based
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>>61758646
stop it anon

>tfw just listen to Boulez's interpretation of his Oboe Concerto
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Was Boulez the first transgender composer?
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>>61766422
brahms
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>>61766542
It should be illegal to be so pretty
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>>61767217
I kno rite
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https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=A5S3v2Qrx4I
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https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=IfOJCKN148M
Holy shit this is amazing. Especially the second movement. Bartok was a god
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>>61769489
>Especially the second movement

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=1qPZbHNuZzI
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>>61769489

>tfw the most famous non-german composers are the most german-like

Kodaly and Bartok and almost unknown, barring Bartok's propensity for memeing himself, while Liszt is famous for making literally making glorified etudes.

...Just like German composers.
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>>61771165
>>61771165
Tone the jargon down there friendo
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>>61771165
Bartok is goat
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Bump with Boulez's recording of From the House of the Dead.
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=fqxl_ObR8og&list=PL7E13BD0757844326&index=1&spfreload=10
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>>61772684
Don't care much for Boulez's opera recordings but this one is really great, favorite Janacek too.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=-Bb22sFPgjA
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What is your opinion on Sondheim?
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>>61773134
His lyrics are the best written in a long time for his musical theater work.
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Sorry if this is too pleb but I'm just going to drop three recordings of some of my favorite GnS operas (The Mikado, The Gondoliers, and Trial by Jury) from the 1920s, featuring some of the best D'Oyly Carte performers like Leo Sheffield and Henry Lytton.

I also highly encourage that you buy these recordings too, because the transfers are the best I could ask for, all things considered, and the business (78s2cd) is rather small.

https://mega.nz/#!qklGwLwI!cp39CCEGfuvkwUhaTYKSQ4nuY4jNbaGCVNZ3NnQxN58
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>>61773363
Wait shit I realized it wasn't Gondoliers I uploaded but rather the 1924 acoustic recording of Princess Ida, the only D'Oyly Carte recording of the opera to have the song "Come, Mighty Must" sung by Bertha Lewis
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>>61773363
>>61773495
Will check it out, thanks
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>>61773363
>no Pinafore

You're right, you are too pleb
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>>61773363

I can never decide if I prefer the G&S operas which are more on the satirical side or edging towards slightly more serious (say, Iolanthe vs Yeoman)
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>>61774830
I'd consider Pinafore to be the most pleb (damn good, but still pleb) of the operas because it has a very early musical comedy style. Either way, recordings of Pinafore are easier to come by than Princess Ida (which has some of the most delightful music Sullivan ever composed in it)

Right here in fact is a 1929 recording of Pinafore featuring Sir Henry Lytton as Sir Joseph Porter in it.

https://archive.org/details/GILBERTSULLIVANH.M.S.Pinafore1930-NEWTRANSFER

>>61774989

That's an interesting way to look at the conflict, since I always felt that Yeoman was rather unique in how serious it was. Most people would say it was a Gilbert or Sullivan conflict (take Ruddigore vs Gondoliers, for example)
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