This other thread running atm gave me the idea to make a 'MM or NIN' thread (even though it's probably already been done pfft)
Who do you prefer? Music-wise, appearance-wise, et fuckin cetera :P
Idk I just love mechanical animals and his image is really cool. But I can see why most people say NIN is superior
There's actually a book that has a NIN vs. Manson chapter I read a long time ago. I think the closing sentence on the debate was something like "Ultimately, the most interesting thing Trent Reznor has ever created might be Marilyn Manson" (since Reznor signed MM to Nothing and took them on tour back in the day).
I think Reznor's recent work and musical evolution have been more impressive than Manson's, but Manson's work from The Spooky Kids' debut up to Holy Wood was so diverse and intense that he's definitely earned his place in rock music history. Hesitation Marks was such an ambitious album and it totally paid off for NIN though, whereas it's REALLY hard to take Manson seriously as an artist these days. Everything after Golden Age has felt forced.
Idk I'd be gay for a day to spend some quality time with the Eat Me Drink Me Manson
Sunspots, Getting Smaller, Only, Every Day Is Exactly the Same, The Perfect Drug (not actually sure if it came after The Fragile or not, too lazy to look it up), I'm Afraid of Americans (V1), God Given, Meet Your Master, In This Twilight, Zero-Sum
I've heard a few tracks and it's clear Manson is one doing music he feels passionate about and engaged with, it's just not the kind of music I'm into. Biker bar rock with a bluesy lyrical twinge performed by The Artist Formerly Known as The God of Fuck doesn't work for me (most "white boy blues" doesn't). Just my opinion, and I think TPE gives all Manson's fans a reason to be optimistic about his future musical development.
They're both good for different reasons. I enjoy both. Manson seems to be getting his groove back. The next album should be good with Twiggy back on board. I think that Trent is more consistent but slightly less fun. Manson is instant gratification and visceral. Trent is controlled pleasure and more cerebral.
I think that now that their biggest inspiration has passed away we're going to see some really good albums. I especially hope it'll snap Manson out of his stupor and make him realize how much time he's wasted.
Twiggy was behind a lot of the writing in Burn Villain and it was pretty terrible. But I agree with your assessment of Trent and Manson as artists. You described them both really well.