Jesus christ I seriously don't think there is anyone more pretentious than someone who criticizes art for a living. You have a meaningless job where you criticize people for doing things that you probably aren't even capable of doing.
>>61746830 >Jesus christ I seriously don't think there is anyone more pretentious than someone who criticizes art for a living. Scaruffi does it for fun, he is a cognitive scientist or something like that, not a professional critic
>>61747023 Well, the first statement is true as I see it, with the added valoration that the artists themselves are art critics. I also would change "art critic" for "audience" Other than that this "meditation", as he calls it, is just delusional written masturbation
>>61746830 If you had read some serious critique and not just seen a couple of fantano's videos, you'd realize is way more complex than to "critize" somebody or saying you don't like stuff. Not to mention that many of the best literature writers of all time also have written about critique.
>>61747701 true but the part of about people using facebook to "educate" is spot on. my friends always gives each the most idiotic fitness advice and end up never getting results then blame genetics for not losing weight. drives me yonkers
>>61747547 >Well, the first statement is true as I see it, with the added valoration that the artists themselves are art critics. I also would change "art critic" for "audience" Yeah, he's saying that an artists view of their work (in the role of an audience or "critic") is also important. I don't see anything wrong with the statement.
>>61746830 it's so true. critics get assblasted about this but it's fucking true.
people's opinions on art are completely arbitrary and change with the winds. the idea that you would try to cut the legs off of a hardworking artist's career because you don't happen to like their work disgusts me. what the fuck do you know?
like read about pauline kael. she would sit in the back of theaters at film festivals groaning loudly for everyone to hear at movies she didn't feel were good, and go up to people afterwords and say shit like "it was a little droopy in the middle". whatever the fuck that means.
the only criticism i'm down with is positive criticism (basically curation). find work nobody is paying attention to and tell them why they should be. but negative criticism, at least on a professional basis, is despicable to me.
>>61746830 if you're criticising someone for doing something, chances are you wouldn't want to be capable of doing that thing anyways of course, by that you meant "making music", showing you don't get what criticism is
>>61746830 Most critics at least know a little bit about music theory, or at least should.
>criticize people for doing things that you probably aren't even capable of doing. This doesn't make sense. Their talent isn't necessarily in music (Even though some critics may have talent in music) it's in the writing. This is why sites like pitchfork are criticized. Their writing is extremely mediocre.
It's also not about telling the artist what to do, so much as it is about discussing music.
>>61748566 >if something isn't getting noticed but should be, that's usually because what is getting noticed is run-of-the-mill crowdpleasing junk i don't think that's true at all. it's a big world, hardly anybody gets anywhere without a co-sign. "it's not what you know it's who you know"
>and there isn't any reason to be silent about stuff you don't like. that's how nazis will win. i think it's different when we're talking about art. i think it's ridiculous to shut down music you don't like, in public, with authority, as if it was so bad it was going to kill 6 million jews. like just close your eyes nigga lmao.
>>61746830 Music criticism has been co-opted by self assured psuedo- intellectuals and shills, and at this point is removed from real scholar based analysis. If you review music for a living you are absolutely worthless. That being said there is a big difference between reviewing and studying music.
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