>>61677889 I'm kind of the opposite. I didn't like any of Bowie's pre-2013 stuff. I really liked the remix track Love is Lost with James Murphy, and I really liked the album Blackstar. And now that he's died it's bumped it from an 8 to a 9 for me.
>>61678545 Well for starters if Floridada is of any indication of what Painting With will sound like, in line with their other recent output, it's safe to say that Animal Collective will not deliver. It won't be disappointing either, because what can you expect? Not shit?
>>61677263 considering that he planned it around his death and released it on the day of his birth with lyrics about resurrection
it's both a concept album and performance art
he made his death a spectacle
that's pretty based, gotta say. i like the album alone, it's jittery and sputtering and something that smells vaguely like Scott Walker, but it's still really Bowie. most interesting music he's made in years
maybe not AOTY but it'll be in the discussion. best musician death ever tho, in my onion
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This album brings together so many sounds and influences, including Bowie's long career. The music is challenging and stark, it is classic Bowie to distil music like this and force feed it to the world.
>>61678652 As much of the genre is shit, albums like Veckatimest and Helplessness Blues are fucking god-tier and highly recommended. Definitely a cool era of music to look back on, they made it hip to be emotionally open and "softer" around the edges
To put in my two cents, it was getting good reviews and attention before the announcement. My personal thoughts are that Bowie demanded they not spill the beans on his condition (and possible death) until after the album dropped. That way reviews and such had already been done and his death wouldn't sway that.
The man was an artist through and through he would have wanted to uphold the values of art even after death.
I was never a fan of Bowie, didn't cared that much when I was young. But this album surprised when I saw the video, Blackstar. So I started getting hyped and everything.
So the album came out, listened to it, found it pretty amazing and adventurous. Kind of impressed, but didn't really understood what he was talking about and all the symbols.
But then, Sunday night came and one of my friend texted telling me. And then I thought : "Holy shit, .....did he made this album on purpose before dying?"
And then the next I realised, this motherfucker did it.
It's not a posthumous album.
It is a requiem album, made on fucking purpose just before dying. Nobody did this ever before.
And he could have made a couple of cheesy, simple-sounding songs so everybody could buy the album because of the easy marketing(Hey did you heard that guy died just after making this album ? I should buy it that's crazy!). No man, he made one of his most experimental albums ever, trying to push pop boundaries even further, challenging his own audience.....by really not giving a fuck.
That, for me, is an achievement I've never heard before. It's maybe not the best album I'll ever heard, even this year, but it certainly holds a place somewhere for "honorable mentions" and "Amazing concept". It's truly a once-in-a-lifetime performance.
>>61680448 >(lana del rey?) she may have possibly known abotu bowie and included a clue on her new album. Durign a song she seemingly shoehorns in "ground control to major tom" which I immediately thought was very odd but left it at that.
>>61681327 Imma go with this. "Girl Loves Me" is the standout track for me. I suspect that "Malchek" is a reference to Russian slang in "A Clockwork Orange", "Monday" possibly to Guy Montag in Fahrenheit 451, "pig and pug show" maybe a reference to "Animal Farm", and "I'm sittin' in the chestnut tree" is a definite reference to "Nineteen Eighty-Four", which is frequently referenced in his earlier stuff (e.g. "We Are the Dead," "1984," and "Big Brother" on the 1974 album "Diamond Dogs).
>>61682114 Actually, now that I look up the lyrics, the days of the week are used throughout, so we can scratch Fahrenheit (although it would make sense because Guy Montag did go with "the book people" at the end of the book, and no-one is really sure where they went, just "out of the city"), but most of the lyrics are actually in A Clockwork Orange slang (e.g. "viddy viddy" is cinema, etc.). Animal Farm reference may be forced.
But what I really appreciate about the 1984 reference in "I'm sittin' in the chestnut tree / Who the fuck's gonna mess with me?" is the imagery. If you haven't read the novel, Chestnut Tree cafe is where old party loyalists who committed thoughtcrime and were "reformed" (with extensive torture) went to wait for their death. No-one fucked with them. No-one even looked at them in order not to be associated with them. Those guys sat there drinking their gin, played chess and just waited for their inevitable death, most likely in the form of a bullet to the head from the back while walking down a street. So it actually makes sense in the broader context of this album and Bowie's death. He may have felt like those old-timers who are known to everyone, but who no-one fucks with anymore, who are just waiting to go.
Album brought tears to my fucking eyes, absolutely stunned. First listened to it before he died, liked the sound but not the lyrics. Now I get it and it's just unbelievable. I've never had music bring me to tears by its own power, without some sad scene to accompany it. What a fucking legend, just a beautiful, beautiful ending.
>>61682842 I'll chime in here. The fact that he died is not the concept, that's just the fact, that's what happened. The concept of the album is death, the embrace of the inevitability of death, and a re-evaluation of past achievements. He names all the types of starts he thinks he's not (e.g. "I'm not a pop star") and resolves with the black star, a gravitational object composed of matter. As >>61680310 pointed out, this is not a frequent occurrence, in fact it may be a first, of an artist facing his looming death with a musical examination of his life. In a way it's almost confessional - e.g. "By the time I got to New York / I was living like a king / Then I used up all my money / I was looking for your ass". It may have been a clever marketing ploy, as Bowie is known for being a good marketer, but it's genius in its execution, and congruent with his life work. So it's not really only about making a concept album about death (which has been done before, Kno's "Death is Silent" comes to mind), nor only about the artist dying soon after, but about the unmistakeable confluence of these two, the coming together of concept and fact.
It's a good album that was being praised before he died. It is most likely going to be a contender but it's too damn early to say anything with certainty. At the very least, if he hadn't died, this could have been the start of a new era of god-tier Bowie.
>>61683742 I doubt Bowie could have kicked out a god-tier record like this, if it was not for his impending death. Look at the video of Lazarus, it was his desparate (and succesful) attempt to turn even his death into a glamorous and dramatic act of art - This way or no way You know, I’ll be free Just like that bluebird Now ain’t that just like me
>>61683973 that last part of the video where he sits up a bit in bed and starts singing the last bits, his voice sounded so fucking good and even under the bandages you could tell just how intense his expression was, he sang it like he fuckin meant it, it was beautiful, i fuckin cried after i listened to the whole album
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