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Good ol' Vargy edition

old: http://boards.4chan.org/mu/thread/61666825/
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Myrkur ist Kreig
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hell be fine
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still waiting for buttsludge to be a thing
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>>61673530
This is huh... wow

http://www.last.fm/music/Burzum/_/War
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>>61673530

>>61666825/
Baka

>>61673575
>What is Mastodon, Baronessa and Inronaut
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again:

Fuckin' Toronto, man.
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>>61673584
This is huh wow a rip off of Batlords Reaper
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For being such a stereotypical nu-metal/deathcore band DEG sure gets a lot of love around here.
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>>61673604
>Baronessa
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>>61673625
Because they're Japanese
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>>61673634
>he doesn't know about a collab project between Baoness and Kylesa
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>>61673575
Southern sludge has always flirted with buttrock.
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>>61673604
Hey Intronaut and early Mastodon is pretty tight
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What were they thinking /meal/?
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=B3YdzMy593Y
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>>61673625
let me anatomize the incorrectness of this statement

- they've done one album with any deathcore influence
- their musicianship puts basically every actual nu-metal band to shame
- their lyricism and aesthetic has nothing to do with the genre stereotypes, seriously, find me one comparable artist outside of japanese bands influenced by them
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Anyone here into Batushka? They popped up on my youtube recommended vids and I've been jamming them ever since.

Any other death metal bands that organically tie in Orthodox chanting and the like? I really like it.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=xgfa5UlZAL8
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>>61673614
I heard Toronto is a frozen, over-politically correct hellhole where your soul is drained every day you live there
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>>61673754
Gonna be comedy metal AOTY
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>>61673604
>Mastodon
>anything to do with sludge
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>>61673814
more or less
you should visit
it's so diverse ethnically you can't throw a rock without committing a hate crime
it's alright tho
it's like a lame version of new york
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>>61673832
This Mastodon memehate is getting old
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>>61673790
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=AWbjbYwgIjE
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>>61673754
I'm still hype tbph
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>>61673860
To be fair Leviathan was pretty fucking good.
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>>61673884
YES

This is exactly what I am looking for. Thanks, anon. The slavic touch is wonderful as well.
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>>61673625
>DEG
>stereotypical
Even Gauze had weird tracks.
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>>61673926
I guess I just don't hear anything revolutionary from them.
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>>61673906
Hearts Alive is GOAT
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>/metal/ discussing mastodon
Is it the end of days?
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>>61673976
I mean you might not like them, but they're certainly not generic by any reasonable standards. Find me something from another band that sounds like this.
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=O5LVutpvJNA
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>>61673562
nope.
No.
Don't. I can't live without his goofy youtube ramblings. His voice is my ASMR trigger
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>>61674065
Fucking normies
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>>61674065
Yeah, what this thread needs is some ROTN discussion.
I think that their EP is better than Welcame
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Not even bandwagoning or memeing, but I unironically think this is the greatest power metal song written in decades.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=mBbUwgU2x48
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>>61674235
What's the greatest? and it better not be Keeper of the Seven Keys you fucking faggot
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>>61674065
>>61674150
Cry more black metal fag
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>>61674305
Mirror Mirror probably desu.
Or maybe Triumph of my Magic Steel
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>>61674305
K-Keeper of the seven keys, don't hurt me ;_;
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>>61674235
>tfw Galneryus will never tour the US
God seeing them live would make me cream my pants.
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Is this a good guide to prog metal?

http://noisefull.com/articles/absolute-guide-progressive-metal
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>Not picky or cynical in the slightest
>While I like discovering and listening to what /mu/ and /metal/ likes I like an absolute plethera of music hated here, will like pretty much anything rock/metal related as long as it's not pure shit
>Don't really belong here, absolutely hate reddit

where do I go /metal/?
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>>61674455
Stop being insecure, I like a lot of stuff /mu/ hates
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>>61674455
it's just banter you homo
this place would be gay as fuck if everyone agreed on everything and high-fived each other for their tastes
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>>61674455
>I like an absolute plethera of music hated here
Like? ( pleb )
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>>61674455
stay here in /metal/ to look for new shit and discuss stuff that overlaps with our tastes senpai. /v/ and /b/ have occassional metal threads that generally circlejerk what /metal/ hates so you can go there for your memejent or nu-butt-clown-groove-progcore fix.

also it's largely just banter, your taste is probably still shit but we're just shooting the piss desu senpai
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>>61674455
Just hang around maybe you will develop some taste
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>>61674529
The last time I saw metal thread on /v/ people were circlejerking Sigh Abbath and Galneryus
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>>61674455
I know you just want some (You)'s so I'll give you another one while telling you that every single person in this thread (myself included) has shit-taste in music. Just learn to toss around some bantz of your own and have a fun time.
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wasn't it a running joke that this album would never be released or am I thinking of something else
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https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=2M6SWafRBhQ
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>>61674582
I've seen 4 metal threads on /v/ in a row that were exactly just that.

>DUDE ABBATH
>DUDE MIRAI
>DUDE GALNERYUS
>HAHAHA DUDE J-POWER METAL
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>>61674636
Slav Slam is best slam
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>>61674640
I've notice a ton of jap power metal posting on other boards ever since it got popular in /metal/
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>>61674516
I regret this already
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>>61674640
I also saw a lot of OSDM meme faces

>>61674709
OH I know you, people were shitting on you last time

Honestly I only like 10 albums there
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>>61674709
I don't want to be a faggot but holy fucking shit there's not a redeemable metal band on that chart.
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>>61674709
I'm not gonna lie to you; not happy with this. I think I'll just say nothing.
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>>61674709
I like Fortress
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>>61674748
>He doesn't like Protest The Hero
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>>61674709
I'd be very surprised if you don't like Isis.
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>>61674709
Is there a site to make these?
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>>61674776
Fortress isn't even their best album
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>>61674791
topsters
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>>61674816
What's their best?
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>>61674748
>2016
>Still falling for the BTBAM is bad meme
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Who /lightthiscity/ here?

Why were they the best Melodeath band of the mid-2000s?
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>>61674832
Volition imo
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>>61674849
I like BTBAM

except for the metal parts, those parts of their songs are mallcore
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>>61674825
ok im gonna make one, pls dont bully
>>61674874
fuck off they were good but not even top 50 melodeath
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r8 my taste
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>>61674709
At least you like the fall of troy.
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>>61674709
+Slint, GBYE, The Mars Volta, Devin townsend, American football
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>>61674874
Stop forcing this.
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Whats some good Power, Doom, or Atmospheric Metal?
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>>61674918
+Anathema, Leprous, Alcest, Opeth, Ishan, some prog artsts i should listen to, the crimson idol,
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>>61674734
>>61674748
>>61674776
>>61674778
>>61674935
>>61674980

Not gonna lie, I've definately just started really exploring music lately, plus I'm starting to realize that my musical preferences may fall differently than your typical /mu/tants.
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>Tfw my brother is a piece of shit stoner who lives with his mom and has no future and is definitely gonna die in some gutter high as fuck
>Tfw I'm a piece of shit NEET who spends his day talking about memes on a chinese cartoon board and fucking up his college career
The only reason I haven't killed myself is because I don't want my mother to know how much of a failure both her children are
When my mom's dead, when I have no one left to care about me, I'm taking myself off the face of this planet
In the meantime, metal for this feel?
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>>61675070
Nothing wrong with exploring. It just kinda looks like you have a blend of /mu/core and wank prog. Personally your chart makes me want to vomit, but everyone has shit taste at first.
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>>61675092
Death - Pierce Me
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>>61675100
Honestly, the metal generals have the worst response to the shit I like
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Got into metal 2 years ago, how pleb am I so far
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>>61675218
>how pleb am I so far
>I only listen to essential-circlejerk-core
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>>61674389
it's one of the best out there honestly.

>>61674709
props for TMV, SUFTA, TFOT... and Exoplanet has good songs i guess
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>>61675175
Just memes. I want to say like what you like, but at the same time I will never fathom why people wank off to Dream Theater so much.
Shit, Revocation is in my top 5 but I've only seen praise for them from myself.
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>>61675218
pleb as fuck
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are we posting charts now?
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>>61675265
Oh, I absolutely hate modern Dream Theater, they're self-titled was an absolute abomination. First album I've ever listened to that I felt genuinely insulted by.

I liked the new track they dropped though, cheesy as all hell but it reminded me of Images and Words.
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>>61675037
>Power
Blind Guardian
>Doom
Candlemass, Electric Wizard
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>>61675259
>>61675270
Rude

>>61675288
pretty good
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>>61675259
Most acclaimed albums are acclaimed for a reason
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>>61675428
Yeah, because they're accessible.
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>>61675596
>accessible is bad
Go listen to your 90s black metal demo tapes and tech death wankery
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>>61675288
+all that emo

Have you listened to algae bloom? great lo-fi/bedroom sounding emo
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>>61675655
hey man fuck off tech death did nothin to hurt you and your accessible stuff
stick to insulting that anon
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>>61675655
It's not bad. It's also not necessarily good.
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alright, please no bully.
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Where do you make these charts?

>inb4 paint
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>>61675819
>>61674825
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A couple of days ago, a bunch of you said you were going to check out pic related.

Any of you ITT? curious to know what you thought
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>>61675817
Not bad. Not bad at all.
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>>61675817
Pretty nice desu.
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>>61675877
I checked it out and loved it, I made this list
>>61675817

I was going to put my favorite CC on it and realized I liked Skeletal Domain more so I put it on my top 100 atm list. I'm sure I will lower my opinion over it over time but right now since it's so fresh in my mind its my favorite CC
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>>61674128
i hope not either

i hope i didnt kill varg with a shit meme
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is he right /metal/? https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=ozmc2Qu9FJc
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>>61675877
It's great. Easily their best. I like it even more than Tomb and Spawn, and I fucking love those.
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>>61675265
I agree with you, Revocation is a pretty good band, though not many people seem to agree. In fact you are the first person I've seen on this board that's also has Revocation in their top 5.
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>>61675976
mostly, but the new Cradle was actually good
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>>61675817
>Riff Raff
>Whelp

Aquaberry deathcore
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>>61676171
lovin all dat black/death and inquisition
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>>61676199
I halfway put it as a meme, but I also kinda unironically enjoy it. Is the rest of the list decent famalamadingdong?
>>61676171
++Inquisition
+Satanic Warmaster
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black metal is the most emotionally expressive metal imo
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Help me expand my album collection
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>>61676280
Tru dat, i've never heard of depressive suicidal death metal.
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>>61676171
so this is me, can anyone rec me something? I've been stagnating a little

as little melody as possible.
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>>61676312
listen to this and Rotting christ- triarchy of lost lovers
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How come /metal/ hate BTBAM so much now.

I could've sworn everyone here loved them a few years back.

Is it just one of those "board culture has changed" sort of things?
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>>61674748
>HeXen reaction image

My nigga
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>>61676365
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>>61676365
>as little melody as possible
Enjoy.
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=qc98u-eGzlc&spfreload=10
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>>61676350

it just is raw emotion in musical form imo

death metal bands usually are putting on an act to try to be the edgiest is how it seems

its not genuine with them
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>>61676386
Poor songwriting.
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>>61676386
They're really ambitious for what it's worth, but as time's gone by, lots of bands have released muh thinking man's metalcore that's a lot more cohesive and less gimmicky.
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https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=A6ThAr-saUE
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>>61676410
I get what you're saying, a lot of death metal to me just sounds so uninspired where it's just raw brutality rather than making good music.
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stoner/drone/doom with cursory interest in thrash/black pleb here

enlighten me and give recs
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>>61676405
always down for war
>>61676408
muh chuggah
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>>61676365
here, it has 0 melody
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Yeah kind of shit senpai

Any recs?
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>>61675817
>>61676312
>2 bodom albums
Oh come on
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>>61676448
i think tech-death bands are the most guilty of this kind of shit

the kind of bands where they all have crazy fast arpeggio lines but they all kind of sound the same
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>>61676410
>>61676448
>>61676507
you guys dunno what you're talking about
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>>61676312
Someone really likes melodeath I see
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>>61676526
enlighten me
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>>61676526
its an opinion faggot
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>>61676499
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Who /thrash/ here?

Need some recommendations.
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>>61676437
So really, could it be said BTBAM opened the way for other bands to surpass them?
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>>61676499
>Porcupine Tree, Opeth and Karnivool

Nice
Try Riverside, Votum, Wolverine, Novembre, Fates Warning and Voivod
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>>61676575
It's more that they squandered their old potential
But yes, lots of bands were influenced by them and surpassed them
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>>61676499
>Car Bomb
Cool guy detected. Have you tried Psyopus or are they just not your hting?
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>>61676548
>>61676539
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=X1X0Bejwnko
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>>61676410
>>61676448
You can quite plausibly say the exact same thing about black metal bands.
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>>61676591
Already listen to Riverside, Fates Warning and Voivod familia. Great bands

I couldn't get into Novembre but I'll check out Wolverine
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>>61675218
So how is my list any worse than others?

They also got entry level stuff
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>>61676496
https://encenathrakh.bandcamp.com/releases
say this is alright
it also costs over $700 dollars
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>>61676451
Listen to Hell, it's pretty good blackened funeral/drone doom

If you're ready to go all in with black metal then just look up charts on the /mu/ wiki or something

But you may like some slow-moving atmoshit like Burzum's Filosofem and Hvis Lyset Tar Os, Midnight Odyssey, and Weakling

Thrash metal idk
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>>61676608
Only listened to their "hits" (Burning Halo and Duct Tape Smile)

I don't know where to start but I feel like I could dig them a bit more.
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>>61676625
its true though

you can definatley say the same about them
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>>61676613
i dont think its bad but i think most of these bands sound too similar
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>>61676604
>It's more that they squandered their old potential

Thinking about it, they did go downhill after Colors

Coma Ecliptic was my biggest disappointment of 2015. One more bad album and I'm pretty sure it's very much the end times for the band
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>>61676613
congrats on posting an avant-garde tech death album instead of something brutal and stupid like this https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=o-d7hFx-QVk
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>>61676501
Look at mine again, I have 3.
>>61676312
Based on your tastes I recommend:
Hypocrisy (melodeath):
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=gVvcHWO6uOQ

Zonaria (Hypocrisy worship, melodeath):
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=ETxPLPoohiw

Pathogen (melodeath):
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=90aoihIYZ4Y

Satariel (melodeath):
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=8hA5Iczj9r0

Dissection (melodic black metal):
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=8c3L0bqUnao

Razor (thrash):
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=_gO2G21Ucqk

Panzerchrist (blackened death):
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=2_9NyKUsuKk

Dokken (heavy/glam metal)
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=nQb1t_Yw0S8
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>>61676627
I would just rec you to through more classic prog metal like Cynic, Queensryche, Arcturus, Conception, Crimson Glory, Watchtower and Nevermore
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>>61676721
Obscura gets pretty redundant after a while, but they were one of the first bands to be that overtly dissonant.
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>>61675976
>Faggoth
Wow it's been a while since I heard that

Solid list tho
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>>61676567
Really good man, stuff like this is what I've been searching for but could never find
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>>61676410
Its more that death metal tends to focus on song writing while black metal has always been basic as fuck and thus attracts people who take the view of music having inherent emotional qualities rather than "emotion" being more what the individual listener associates with the music.
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>>61676410

this triggered me but then I remembered >>61676548


personally I think dm is generally so much more expressive there's not even a comparison and all but the absolute best bm sounds like cheap atmospherics posing as 'deep'
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>>61676826
i actually agree with you

theres a lot of shit bm out there also
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>>61676451
listen to Thou

then listen to more Thou
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>>61676825
you sound like a faggot desu and like you dont know anything about writing music

it doesnt need to be complex to be good
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oh boy are we talking about how death metal is and always will be better than black metal

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=5QTln7bAWMc&list=PLawdrXIsp0f4mPnuaEmXtaZGpaPtAz9l7
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Plebs think black metal is more "emotional" because it tends to be more diatonic (with added dissonance for tension). Just look at how many people think Mgla is genius, for instance.
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r8 & h8
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>>61677009
no thats just you being edgy

i like both all i said was i think bm is more emotionally expressive
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>liking black metal

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=XOibIxl3dLo
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>>61677025
Unable to h8.

>>61677009
Death > Black for me personally, I like some black bands, but I like many death bands more
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>>61677053
delete this
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>>61677025
Hi dad
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>>61677053

Videos like this, I cannot help but laugh at.

>related
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=ApMLDxiLa8w
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Prog and doom is way more emotional than black
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>>61677025
Sick taste

The first, second and third Sabbath albums but no love for Paranoid though?
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>>61677028
listen to me desu

this album is goddamn prophetic. right from the start: a song about a possibly unstable homeless man who believes he sees the future. Then songs about almost sci-fi like issues, in the sense that sci-fi just exaggerates existing problems. This albums tackles gender issues, totalitarian government, about technology replacing our personalities, civil war, and possibly the most prevalent problem we have right now; overpopulation

all in the tone of a man who knows how fucking fucked everybody is, knows we are doomed, and knows we can do nothing to stop it.

So I consider it emotionally expressive.

Most black metal is just satan grr
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>>61677025
cool dad/10
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>>61677025
CROWN UPON HIS HEAD

>>61677100
Haha no
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>>61677117
i dont care

all i did was state my opinion and you feel the need to twist my words into an argument

there is no argument
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>>61677070
>>61677123
>tfw all my dad played was U2
I guess it could have been worse.
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>>61677053
these dudes look alright
they look like fun dudes
this is... huh, wow
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>>61677110
I almost put Paranoid in, wanted to keep up the variety. I'd probably replace the Voivod album or Vol 4 with it now that I think about it.
>>61677070
Hi, son.
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>>61677153
My dad only played Apatite for Destruction and the Black Album until I hated Metallica.
>>61677166
THIS IS...
HUH
WOW
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>>61677100

doom is some of the most emotional in terms of pure sentiment as opposed to more vital, directed feels. nothing just wrecks me like a bit of Warning even though I know viewed objectively it should be cheesy as fuck
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>>61677144
what you are doing is the equivalent of putting your hands over your ears and saying lalalalalalala

you said tech-death was unemotional. I showed you two albums I considered emotionally expressive. I haven't called you names, and one guy from your side called me a faggot.

And now you're shutting me out after starting this.
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184th for thrashcore

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=4iWrsZRA0ws
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=l2in-bo6F-k
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>>61677210
no

you are the one who came with a snarky fucking comment

i stated my opinion and you keep trying to make it into an argument

kill yourself kid

>oh boy are we talking about how death metal is and always will be better than black metal
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>>61677210
But it's his opinion, no matter how inane or uninformed. You are powerless to stop him.
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Emotional expression and the complexity of the song are uncorrelated things, in my opinion. Generic bluesy solos aren't any more emotional than bad techdeath.
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>this song is actually being fucking taught in top-tier universities
>tfw can remember when they were small with a core fanbase

Time flies, /metal/.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=aMorAdnCixg
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Is there any metal with a vaporwave aesthetic?
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>>61677294
Damn I love NeO even though the last album was disappointing
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>>61677136
KING OF ALL THE DEAD
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>>61677240
>kill yourself
says the black metal fan

I posted an album in response to your comments, without any words, and one of your side called me a faggot. Then I started in with my opinion.
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>>61677294
>metal being taught at Sydney Conservatorium of Music of all places
When are we going to start seeing pigs fly?
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>>61677327
you started it dude

if you want to have civil discussion you dont twist somones words into an argument

i like death metal and black metal i just think one is more expressive than the other

maybe you should learn social skills before you try to communicate with people
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>>61677359
Man you're bitching about nothing. The comment was directed at no one. You were talking about black metal being better than death, and I said death was better than black. And you called me edgy, asshole. You started this.

>social skills
this is fucking 4chan the fuck're you talking about.
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>>61677359
>black metal fan
>having any social skills
o i am laffin
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>>61677342
If jazz can be taught academically, I don't see why stuff like metal or math rock couldn't.
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>>61677359
how exactly did I start this anyway? Just chronologically, you were saying black was better than death first. You can't say that kinda shit without people disagreeing, and you know that.
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>>61677436

>tfw Masters' degree in Fear Factory
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>>61677476
except i didnt say it was better

you said that in your first post to me
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>>61677294
>>61677317
>>61677342
>>61677436
>>61677489
It's still fucking mindblowing, never once did I think people who actually studied classical would praise metal on the same level.
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>>61677237
this
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=7-rgCbFo1zc
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=2eUwwCDQ9ag
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=c-GqplEEh9M
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>>61677534
Most classical listeners actually aren't pretentious snobs (some are though) and fairly open minded. Classical music itself has a ton of different stylistic periods. Studying the composition of more complicated metal bands would be pretty interesting.
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>>61677534
I'd rather have a load of classicalfags making prog metal because of ne obliviscaris than a load of hipsterfags making blackgaze because of deafheaven desu.
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>>61677531
this is you down here, the post that started this
>black metal is the most emotionally expressive metal imo

so; suck a corpsepainted dick
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>>61677025
best taste in this thread desu
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>>61675218
what are your thoughts on corrections house?
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>>61677610
i like both though

youre the one trying to argue with me

im laughing at how mad you are

just because i think one is more emotionally expressive than the other doesnt mean i think the other is worse
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>>61676604
this
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>>61676171
why no band/album name? :/
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>>61677659
so you did start it and you won't deny it. you've abandoned all arguments and devolved into saying I'm mad and you're not. You won't respond with rational thoughts.

And we're both arguing. If you didn't want to argue you could leave anytime. Just stop replying.

so suck a corpsepainted frostbitten veiny and grim dick
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why are arguments in /meal/ always so much like a couple trying to just about restrain their tempers on a long, tense drive?
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>>61677725
which ones you need to know?
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Since ne obliviscaris is official classicalfagcore, let's play a game, /metal/. You're a professor at some music university and you have to pick a metal song to add to the curriculum and be deeply studied and dissected. What song do you pick?
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>>61677756
i dindu nuffin
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>>61677725
I don't like RYM, so I ended up just using a site called topsters. if you don't know a name just ask.

>>61677758
it's better than just calling each other faggot niggerlovers
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>>61677770
of course

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=pNGCJzPzAp0
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>>61677770
Sound of Wolves by Rise of the Northstar
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=y4k8hbwHgQ4
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Who even writes shit like this
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>>61677758
whos arguing exactly ? all i see is one faggot butthurt about an opinion i have and he is raging about it continually
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>>61677770

RE
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>>61677770
The 18 minute song on the second gonin-ish album. That thing is nuts.
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>>61677534
while i like ne obliv a lot i wouldn't say the composition of that particular song is anywhere near good enough to be studied on par with classical works.
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>>61677770
The entirety of this album

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=k56B9wDFTJk
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>>61677784
This? This is what you're going with? Do you want the last word or something?

You might think just not posting would be submission or something, admitting you're wrong when you still believe you're not, but trust me man, it's the best way out of this scenario.

I just like arguing.
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>>61677813

don't drag me into it mom I'm already having problems at school
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>>61677770
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=qEV9TmFFsUw
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>>61677807

When will the meme end?

>>61677770
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=nVVNYON8OSw
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>>61677770
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=cPidlxK44rE
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>>61677810
NeO's lyrics are hilariously pretentious and self-important but i kind of like the imagery
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>>61677766
The ones with the X
If it's not much to ask

>>61677791
I didnt knew you make those charts with RYM

Thanks
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>>61677863
>posting the Tchaikovsky ripoff
At least go with The Force of Courage anon.
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>>61677833
im pretty drunk desu senpai
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>>61676171
Hey, someone else has heard Blind Idiot God

Killer band
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>>61677878
Satanic Warmaster - Carelian Satanist Madness
>black metal
Sarcofago - INRI
>brazilian? proto-black thrash/death
Adversarial -Death, Endless Nothing and the Black Knife of Nihilism
>black/death, war metal
Pig Destroyer - Terrifyer
>grindcore, awesome
Full of Hell & Merzbow
>noisegrind, collab with famous noise musician
Crowpath - Son of Sulphur
>grindy, deathy mathcore, like a death metal TDEP/Converge, concept album about an arsonist
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>>61677770

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=qM71torFNBQ
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>>61677878
top right- Carelian Satanist Madness
2nd 2nd- inri
last on second is Death, Endless Nothing and the Black Knife of Nihilism
4th 1st is pig destoryer- Terrifyer
4rth 3rd is Full Of Hell & Merzbow
5th 3rd is Crowpath - Son Of Sulphur
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>>61677770
one of these
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=vBkdf3aKrU0
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=WyayloODWrc
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=E8OS1lUnhIo
though >>61677849 is also a good choice
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>>61677966
fuck yes Blind Idiot God. So amazing.
>>
Late, but rate me lads.
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>>61677983
>>61677973
fucking awesome
thanks
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So is there any neoclassical prog metal that beats NeO at their own game?
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>>61678001
shit actually maybe
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=v1r8tJC60TM
instead of dances of death, mostly because i can't make any sense of that album
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>>61678041
If you count the latest Galneryus album.
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>>61678020
you dont even have the correct immortal album on there anon
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>>61678020
>The Pogues on top
Nice
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>>61678020
>that VUVR album
Oh my god that thing has some of the most intricate songwriting I've ever heard. Both guitar parts and the bass will play different parts, but it all fits together so well.
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>>61677960
whatever man
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>>61678020

>dat Pogues
>dat Mithras
>Let Us Prey

we'd get on like a house on fire anon
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>>61678068
>implying
it's their best album anon
>>61678071
the what?
>>61678093
I'm pretty sure I was the first one to talk about that album in this general. It's amazing.
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>>61678071
>>61678116
>The Pogues
Am I being rused
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>>61678144

shit I've just looked again
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>>61678123
i'd put Diabolical Fullmoon Mysticism over battles mainly because of the later's shit production
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>>61678123
I've been shilling it in threads since 2012
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>>61678123
>It's amazing.
Yeah it reminds me a lot of Atheist's Elements which is a good thing. Not much metal has bass that creative or involved.
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>The Pogues and Ahab both used a classical painting for their cover

So did Crippled Black Phoenix and Be'lakor
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>>61677303
Morbid Angel. Just the album cover though
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>>61678230
So did Morbid Angel and Hexenhaus
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>>61678103
are u mad still

=^)
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>>61678020
Definitely not bad, my man
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Why is Glam rock so great but Glam metal so shit?
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>>61678265
Wow. That cover is significantly better than the CD version.
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>>61678309
Some glam metal was fantastic.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=nYcmW1jIM6E
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>>61678309
Just listen to old school VK metal senpai.
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=X4rSBhRTTwI
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>>61678041
not many bands sound like NeO and i wouldn't call them neoclassical really. if you mean bands with violinists, there's not much to choose from that rivals tim's musicianship - the prog metal band Jethzabel maybe? Or Unexpect? Their violin work isn't too prominent though.
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Bully the shit out of me, please. Then rec me some shit.

Just started getting back into metal, so thats why this is so metal light.
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>>61678173
>DFM
Mein neger. Some of the best Batlord worship ever.
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>>61678309
Dokken is the shit
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>>61678372
kys fag


JK you got some good albums on there
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>>61678372
I like Devin too
Don't care for rap
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>you will never be this glam

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=qUUc4Cq5NJc
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>>61678372
seem like a chill dude
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>>61678366
I could never get into Neo from the shit production and vocals

Maybe I'll give it another go from all the praise they're getting here
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>>61678455
They're okay, but what's wrong with their production jobs?
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>>61676496
This shit is killer
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I know you guys don't like Dream Theater, but what do you think about Symphony X?

They areprobably the second most popular and influential prog metal band after DT
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>>61677237
Siege invented grindcore.
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>>61678520
>DT and Symphony X are the most influential prog metal bands
This upsets me so much because both bands are awful.
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>>61678520
one of the popularizers of chugpower, not really a fan

i do like some of the bands they influenced but honestly they were late to the prog/power/neoclassical thing, angra and marge litch both did it first, and rhapsody were contemporary.
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>>61678372
Alright my man, for you I rec:
Weakling, American black metal. Laid the groundwork for Liturgy, WITTR, Deafheaven, basically every American blackgaze blackwhatever not-pure black metal band is in some way influenced by these guys. And it's actually good:
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=mnjH-ZYe59c

The Absence, great American melodeath. Very easy listening to get you back into the metal mood:
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=ZYIj7eDz8X0

Mistur, project of ex-Windir members after Valfar accidentally froze to death, folk-y black metal:
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=bnasGLRy5hw

Gloryhammer, fun power metal, ignore anyone that says anything otherwise:
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=YGV6bCTMM5w

Enslaved, viking metal (black/folk), Frost is an often overlooked album by a band with a metric shitton of great albums:
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=4KySr2rBvHE
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>>61678520
No, the most influential prog metal bands are

Dream Theater
Opeth
Meshuggah
Devin
Cynic
Tool
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>>61678309
Glam rock is shit though
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>>61678619
>tfw Cynic is the only band I like on this list
I guess I'm just a faggot.
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>>61678649
no, that just means you have good taste
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>>61678640
>not liking Sparks, T Rex, Bowie and Roxy Music
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>>61678649
>>61678689
None of these bands are bad except DT and Tool
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>>61678619
meshuggah is the only good band on that list desu
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>>61678717
I think Meshuggah is horrid.
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>>61678735
>>61678742
Wew lad
>>
influential =/= popular.

I'd argue that Voivod's among the most influential prog bands of all time and even though they never really reached an incredibly large crowd, their influence is nearly everywhere.

the most influential prog metal bands are

dream theater
queensryche
cynic
voivod
meshuggah

>>61678717
Fuck off.
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>>61678649
>>61678689
>>61678717
>>61678735
>>61678742
it's almost as if different people have different preferences and opinions
>>
I want to get into metal, are there any essential charts or whatever?
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>>61678772
Fuck you too
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>>61678796
Start with Fear Factory, Pantera, Galneryus, Deathspell Omega and Steel Panther
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>>61678772
>dream theater
shit
>queensryche
literally who
>cynic
alright
>voivod
never heard of
>meshuggah
god-tier
>>
>no other band pulled off Cynic's sense of uplifting melodic technicality
why
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>>61678772
What prog metal bands are influenced the most by Voivod?
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>>61678572

thanks man
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>>61678796
tell us what you're already into musicwise and that'll help us rec stuff you might actually like
in the meantime here's a random rec
https://youtu.be/cfR4OIDuvPc
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>>61678839
>literally who
>never heard of
Don't be this new.
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>>61678839
>being this clueless
wew
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>>61678839
>>>/out/
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>>61678839
Holy shit maximum pleb
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>>61678796
Don't listen to this guy >>61678827
Start with classic heavy metal, then work your way to more extreme stuff. As much as I hate to say this, stay away from super obscure stuff at first, otherwise you're going to do what I did and think a lot of stuff is amazing that isn't. Get the basics, then braoden.

This is a pretty good chart, certainly not the only one tho.
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>>61678304
it's time to stop posting anon, you're drunk
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>>61678796
Listen to Black Sabbath's Paranoid:
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=_n62agh6Zfw

Judas Priest's Painkiller:
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=NJO0PwZxFBA

Megadeth's Rust in Peace(playlist to get the un-remastered edition, trust me it matters):
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=FiFIGN5084Y&list=PLLHyHi7NUwSY4RMEFG9CDMrPcr-EbSDLH

Listen to these, and then report back with which one you liked most for recs according to that.

>>61678855
np
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>>61678796
Liturgy - Aesthetica
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>>61678906
so youre mad still

heh
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>>61678858
i like stuff like early swans, big black, gore, jesus lizard, shellac
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I don't want to live in a /metal/ general where people unironically like tool, meshuggah, opeth, and devin townsend.
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>>61678895
>tfw you listened to a lot of obscure metal albums and your all time favourites is the most acclaimed stuff?

Is that wrong?
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>>61678929
i dont like any of those bands
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>>61678839
the funny part is that your opinions are right, but the fact that you don't actually know who queensryche and voivod are invalidates it all.
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>>61678921
anon you say you don't want to argue
and here you are
you've all but lost what the argument was actually about
now you're lazily shitposting
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>>61678929
tool has their moments, but all of the good aspects of them were done way better by om so there's not much point listening to them
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>>61678929
Then go back to anus
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>>61678959
Focus is god-tier you pleb.
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>>61678964
and youre still mad about it
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>>61678929
>these bands are popular so they're bad
Atmoshit fag detected
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>>61678973
No because I've been browsing /metal/ for years, senpai.

>>61678959
>thinking meshuggah is good
>god-tier
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>>61678839

>has never heard of Voivod
>being this pleb

>>61678796
Start with the classics as others have pointed out but I'd also throw in Motorhead to start with
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>>61678929
>being this contrarian
kys
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>>61678982
It's ok. Not jazzy enough desu.
>>61679003
Meshuggah is godly if you can get it around your head that chugging doesn't automatically make something bad.
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>>61678987
>>61678921
>>61678304
that's the same thing three time now anon
Why continue this? What do you hope to gain? Do I sound mad? You whined about being argued with and when I let up, give you an out, you insist that I'm mad.

I'm not angry at you, Anon. [spoiler]I'm just disappointed.[/spoiler]
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>>61679002
No, I'm a progfag, senpai. Have some good prog

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=xoBHwxORWQ4
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>>61679051
>contrarian
>in a general that despises buttprog
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>>61679053
>It's ok.
If you cannot see the brilliance of I'm But a Wave To.., Uroboric Forms, etc. you are lost.
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>>61679055
tfw its not just me
>>61678987 (You)
>>61678921 (You)
>>61678304
i think youre getting trolled
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>>61679065
That was terrible
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>>61679170
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>>61679144
It doesn't matter if you're one guy pretending to be three or three guys who decided to fuck with me. I know what happened in that argument, and I know I'm not mad.
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Will there be a better prog metal than pic related?

>>61679149
>song's 8 minutes long
>not even 4 minutes passed when you posted
>that "was" terrible

How fucking pleb can you get?
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>>61679113
Butt prog doesn't exist
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>>61679207
If first 3 minutes were shit it hardly gets better
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>>61679265
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I need more post-metal. Like this kind with all its melancholy and harmony

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=uuUF0Qed4HA
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>>61680058
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Nu-WBW6Ww_k

also there's a new thread, ask there
>>61679170
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>>61680123
whoops, didnt look at the post count. Thanks lad.
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