good afternoon /noise/
trying to make my way through pic related. It's massive
why do you feel the need to promote the album in this way
just say it's yours
it's just that if he said it was his album, more people would listen to it. Instead, one clicks the link, sees the track lengths, goes 'okay', and proceeds to not care.
And that in no way proves that the guy, who we know has advertised here multiple times before by the way, is the same as the poster above. In the archives you linked, he does, multiple times, say it's his album. He's not trying to hide.
oh ok sorry :3
what are you listening to?
me Hans Krusi - EX HK, really good so far
yes, he has a really interesting method of composing, I've only listened to hydrophobia and cardiac strain by him, and they've both been really nice. He has a pretty big discography though; what would you consider his best?
does power electronics belong here? if it is, can I get some power electronics recs?
picture is crazy robot
I don't know much, but in my opinion netlabels are cancer, but that's mainly because I fetishise physical copies. So in short, be good enough to actually have label who wants to put you out and then start advertising. Also shows, playing shows is much better advertisement than spamming bandcamp on Taiwanese cardboard.
yeah, this guy gets it
self-releasing, playing shows, involving yourself in the local scene in a meaningful way, keeping a low profile and letting the work speak for itself is the way to go
There is an importance to physical copies, but I treat noise just as I do with any other type of music and enjoy it for it's aural value. I don't mind digital distribution, and that'll probably be what I use for when I finish a release. I don't consider the "noise style" to be a static ideal that must be followed through.
mind me, I'll be a dick, don't answer and don't start a storm if you find it offensive.
What would you rather listen something put out by Freak Animal label or some random bandcamp project? Believe me, I've seen countless digital releases. Posted here, posted on facebook, some had physicals self-made releases, some didn't. Most of them were shit or just nothing really innovative(or, my god, post-ironic noise). Like let's put a static here and here and someone will like it. At the other hand I've seen few projects which vanished without a trace because they thought that they can live on without playing shows and signing to a label(for example: vàg made few CDs, their stuff is now pretty popular as ANW, but they don't make walls anymore for whatever reason(shame tho, their second project Cum Function wasn't as fun))
In short, fuck the internet, Play shows, no scene? Make one or someshit. Even shit countries like my beloved Poland have small scene(by small I mean 10 or 5 artists who play regular shows(by regular I mean once per two or three months), two really big record labels from which one specializes in general underground while the other publishes mainly industrial/noise/experimental)
Tho maybe I am just wrong. Please post your project or something once you're done.
Shit, I dig the atmosphere. Second track reminds me of pope speeches which I was hearing when I was little. I think that the contrast between this(by this i mean apocalyptic post-communist vision of a city) and hazy, grainy textures is amazing.
>What would you rather listen something put out by Freak Animal label or some random bandcamp project?
Whichever sounds better. I listen because of sound and conceptual package, not label or method of distribution. I understand the dislike of bandcamp and soundcloud projects because they make it "easier" for certain artists to just put out whatever regardless of effort, but you have to understand that that's not always the case, and it's a real detriment to actual serious artists that would just rather go digital, don't have the resources for physical releases, or want to have total creative control of their art. As far as getting out there, yeah, it's not going to be as effective staying digital/not playing live in most cases, but that's dependent on the artist and the situation, and if they want to get out there, they'll do it, and people will respond accordingly.
i pretty much agree with this post
someone who takes what they do seriously and have a sincere dedication to it will inevitably want to present what they do in a substantial and credible manner, which usually means if nothing else at least putting it out on tape
bandcamp/soundcloud noise has too much of a stigma to it(not that it's undeserved really, pretty much the only time i hear quality noise on BC or SC is when already established labels/artists release samples of their upcoming releases or previously unreleased tracks) and it makes any more substantial participation in or interaction with the community impossible, all you can do is spam that shit around to people who are too jaded to bother to listen to it anyway
that, and from what i've noticed it seems like 95% of the SC/BC noise crowd either doesn't listen to noise beyond merzbow and masonna or doesn't listen to noise at all and has no interest in or understanding of it beyond what they're doing, which somehow still doesn't keep them from getting all indignant and defensive when told that their work is shit
I understand you. Second part about doing shit was a bit taken out of my ass. But I think first part still applies, like if something is put out on Freak Animal then it means someone liked it enough to actually put it out. You don't have this kind of insurance with bandcamp artists.
>total creative control of art
Start a label. Prurient did, Aspa did, Gero did. And then, you guessed it. Play shows, meet people, make them release things on label.
or maybe the other way.
People who "want to get big"(which itself is flawed, do you think vomir wanted to be poster-boy for HNW?) need to play live and seek labels. People who don't give a fuck, will do what they want.
>don't have the resources for physical releases
running a tape label isn't all that expensive of an investment at this point, it demands more time than money from a person
jason crumer is a lot closer to being poor than he is to being wealthy but that hardly stopped him from starting one
strange rules started out with tiny editions of 15-20 tapes because those were all the blank tapes they could afford to get, and now they're one of the more prominent labels in their field
and as far as total creative control goes, the only time i ever hear of a label tampering with an artist's material and its presentation is when they are asked to do it by the artist(at least during the past couple decades, i know there have been cases of labels fucking artists over in the 80s), e.g. producing artwork for the release, handling additional mastering, assembling the track sequence out of the provided material and so on
to be honest I have a bandcamp but i stopped posting in here/bandcamp threads a while back because I personally don't like spamming my stuff on here because it's practically useless in the long run imo
that being said, does anybody know some cool noise labels on bandcamp? https://crucialblast.bandcamp.com isn't exclusively noise (they also do black metal) but they reissued a few Bagman cassettes so that's cool as shit.
Guys, I have to be honest with you all.
I think I may be Masonna-sexual. I listen to this album three times every day and I blow my fucking load all over my laptop each and every time.
Anyone with similar experiences and recommendations for artists like Masonna?
there's no proper way to make noise. the most important thing is that you have an aesthetic in mind and a solid idea for what you want the release to be like that you are excited about. that can be a particular sound, theme, or production technique you'd like to explore. with the equipment you have my first thoughts would be compiling and processing field recordings or doing some glitchy shit with the stock alert sounds and whatnot. don't just make something cause you kinda want to make something though, you should be excited about your project or it'll show in the sound and ancillary media you come up with.
Hey all, looking for general feedback on a couple tracks I did earlier today. I've been exploring ways to work digitally that can still evoke the dynamics of analog. These are what I have so far.
Excuse the sequencing, I haven't done any mixing or anything like that yet.
Need help /noise/
I heard an EP on here a few months ago and I can't remember the name.
It was by a Japanese artist and had harsh noise in the back with tribal type drums in the foreground
Thans in advance Senpai
was it this, Vomir & Yoshihiro Kikuchi? HNW with repetitive sequenced drumming?
Thanks for the reply, but that's not it.
The cover was grey and black.
His bandcamp only had the one EP on it and the album was quite new as well. Wish I could describe it better, but any help is appreciated
well that rules out the other possibility I was thinking of. sorry I coulden't be more help. did you at least like the collab I posted? at least a couple people said that it was their noise AOTY 2015. and I think it's up there.
You should submit to /mu/'s /noise/ bandcamp if you haven't already. I don't know how to contact the guy, but the user-submited tracks will be available on the 23rd-ish of January.
Yeah, I did enjoy that, even though the harsher stuff is still something I'm trying get into. Thanks for the recc
I guess based on that clip, I should mention that the drums were a lot more melodic and acoustic sounding. Almost North African or Middle Eastern in rythm and tone.
There was a guy who used to post here quite frequently (might have been Rei Flagg?), though his current project sounds similar to what you described. Did the cover have a guy holding swords?
Definitely. I've already submitted, my track is more of a power electronics-type deal. For anyone looking to submit, send your track and artist name (and bc/sc, i think) to
I'm not the guy coordinating it but I haven't seen the info posted in a bit.
Will post it on the general for sure.
It may be on my old hard drive, I just need to go get it.
Browsing today has made me want to seriously listen to more noise though.
Anyone else stoked for The Body and Full of Hell album?
>Anyone else stoked for The Body and Full of Hell album?
oh holy shit I'm now hyped beyond reason. not really noise but still...fuck
also listen through wolf eyes' discography I've been working my way through it recently and I haven't found something I've disliked yet, although I've only been doing full leingth studio releases so far, plus I'm drunk as shit so I'm in the best state for wolf eyes
I need more like this- it's everything I wanted (and didn't get) from full of hell + merzbow
can yall help me out?
Shit, I keep meaning to listen to this album. On mobile right now, is it in the archive?
Might as well bump with some shares while I'm at it.
The Rita - Dark Eye Makeup for The Stage
>ballet harsh noise wall
What're yall listening to?
I don't listen to enough CCCC
I just bought a bosshog and am very excited, got inspired after going to eric woods birthday show, post your gear :3
sounds like someone who started listening to noise like 3 months ago, instantly downloaded audacity and started making noise. I'm not telling you to stop making music, but I am pleading you to stop posting it here
>someone who started listening to noise like 3 months ago, instantly downloaded audacity and started making noise
/mu/ and noiseguide netnoise in a nutshell
though when it comes to /mu/ noisemakers even the "listening to noise" bit ain't guaranteed
to be honest alot of it sounds like some deuche listened to some noise, thought "wow, thats stupid. I could make noise" and then got him some noise vst for fl studio.
same goes with all the dark ambient.
is this the only noise VS has made? because I love it
also, LUM used to make noise under the name Across. I've only found one track by him though on a split with Droughter
Seijiro Murayama/Toshiya Tsunoda - Snared 60 Cuts
it's the sound of a snare drum not being played.
no but i like him, i thought it might be him when i saw this picture
i don't know if it was the official cover art but it was very similar to that.
>either looking away to a crowd or at a turntable
sorry for making you guys look i'll just keep going through similar artists till i find it.
Not this one, but you reminded me of her best solo album. Thanks.
oh wow this isn't the one i'm thinking of but this was another one i was looking for. the album fertile is great
nah i checked to make sure
it isn't as harsh as these
Well admittedly the start of it sounds that way but as I skipped around through it I saw more elaborate things going on. I do hear was sounds like just raw data and just white noise at parts
the dude uses matlab to create virtual instruments. iirc he said this album was a collection of the stuff he had worked on and thought wasn't good enough for his two other albums but wanted to release as a documentation of his experimentation with the program.
Does anyone have Die Reitenden Leichen – Rauschen & Simulation? can't find it anywhere
I wasn't saying you're wrong, just wanted to give some context. iirc his other two albums showed some promise, but it's been a while since I listened to them
is that cover a thing from the label or something cause I've also seen it as the cover for bachir gemayel - HNWar
>is that cover a thing from the label or something cause I've also seen it as the cover for bachir gemayel - HNWar
All the releases off of Order Of The HNW have the same artwork.
got started recently and my setup so far isnt worth posting pic
so far i got:
Behringer xeryx 802 mixer
Danelectro fab flanger
EHX metal muff
Just ordered a Boss DD-6 and a Kaoss Pad mini, in desperate need of more distortion pedals though
Current 93's new release is surprisingly appropriate to be posted here.
Current 93 - The Moons at Your Door (2015) 
>field recordings, dark ambient
Watch out for the jumpscares
I googled "angriest music ever" when I was in HS and in my edgy tech death stage and found whitehouse. eventually I cooled on the edgy crap and started appreciating a wider range of noise.
Actually, the funny thing is that there was this picture posted somewhere a long time ago.
It showed the different categories of music, slowly getting more and more obscure.
So there'd be one slot like "Pop, rock, hip hop." Then the next would be experimental, then the next would be wall noise. Something like that. I checked out what wall noise sounded like and thought it was unpleasant, but then I think I saw Claustration, and realized that it could be soothing. (https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=wLzEgrHKxNM)
Then from there, I think my first harsh noise album was Merzbow's 1930. Was really good, and things just expanded from there.
i wouldn't say i have a favorite so far, i've been listening to 1 or 2 tracks at a time whenever I get them and I love just about all of them, but once the final thing gets published, i'll get a chance to hear them all back to back and then I'll be more likely to have a favorite.
I think is the scariest since "I Have a Special Plan"
it has concrete elements, rain sounds and jumpscares in track 1 and droney and noise elements in track 2
I liked it, but again, i'm a huge Tibet fanboy
Back when Hydra Head was closing its doors it was selling bundles of random releases for cheap and I really liked the metal on their roster. My bundle came with Dharma (which I was fascinated with and came to love) and Bermuda Drain (which I hated and am only recently coming to appreciate). That was a couple years ago and noise has gradually become a bigger part of what I listen to.
I'm pretty sure it was with that Puritan Sword cd. I'd ordered something from a bandcamp page (iirc it was an album by Alameda 3), and it was thrown in as a bonus. I knew of harsh noise, but id never listened to any, so it was a hell of an experience
explored aggrotech then accidentally stumbled into power noise, but only explored PN very surface level. Then I heard http://ant-zen.bandcamp.com/track/i-set-my-dog-on-fire this and decided "why not, lets see what harsher stuff sounds like". Found The Cherry Point and the rest is history.
Funnily enough, it took a longer time for me to discover and start liking PE than it did for me to like HNW.
Thank you so much for this.
I went under my covers and listened to the whole "Moons at Your Door" track, pretending to be in the first person. Was definitely a trip, and some real nightmare fuel.
>Funnily enough, it took a longer time for me to discover and start liking PE than it did for me to like HNW.
I think a lot of people have this idea that HNW is really hard to get into but I liked it before I liked regular noise outside of whitehouse clones and I've seen a number of people say it was one of the first subgenres they got into.
No problem man!
Hey did anybody here ever bought something from Rotorelief?
A few days ago I finally decided to grab Vivenza's Fondements Bruitistes and Russolo's Manifesto, in their website.
I haven't received any email from them yet, only my PayPal receit. Should I be worried?
Well, like I said there's board famous "I Have a Special Plan"
But there's also:
Haunted Graves, Moving Waves
How He Loved the Moon (Moonsongs for John Balance)
In Menstrual Night
My Name Is Nearly All That's Left
This Degenerate Little Town
In a Foreign Town, In a Foreign Land
However, you might find out that none of these will do the job the same way TMATD does, at least for me. This one is really dark sounding but also aggressive, I think because of the concrete jumpscares.