I can't think of a female in a good metal band apart Electric Wizard, Bolt thrower and Subrosa.
On an unrelated point, let's remember that corsetcore ( symphonic metal with female singers ) was the biggest thing for a while and that Nightwish and Arch Enemy, while being terrible are some of the biggest sellers of the genre.
this an homophobia have been a problem for years, only homosexuals i really remember, aside halford, were glam musicians that the common metalhead just hated
in the case of misoginy, the core are the br00tal slam bands and some death metal and the retarded shit like steel panther, mostly edgy shit that itself is lame
>black metal band no one has ever heard of makes misogynistic song
>"OMG RAPE HELP ME FEMINISM"
>The Weeknd makes misogynistic song, biggest song of 2015
>"this is my jam xDDD"
Fucking this. Nearly every rapper in existence has made at least two dozen songs about wanting to bang some ho's. And just about every music video of the genre has objectified women all over the place.
not the point, dipshit
if feminists were going to bitch about misogynistic content, why would they not target the more popular and therefore wider-reaching and more consumed content?
>implying blue-haired cunt femidykes don't ironically listen to pop music even if they pretend to hate it
And it showed because Nightwish isn't really a metal band... it's like, symphonic rock. There are moments where it borders on metal but, like, come on, power metal has always been more like glam rock than actual metal
>power metal has always been more like glam rock than actual metal
You haven't listened to much power metal or glam music have you?
And Nightwish pretty much dropped the power metal sound completely by their 4th album.
>You haven't listened to much power metal or glam music have you?
No, I've listened to a lot of it DESU
Power metal is to glam rock as grindcore is to hardcore punk. The former is faster than the latter. Whoopdeefuckingdoo
This is the lamest thread on MU right now.
I love this hating on metal mentality coming from people who only reference slam bands or hot topic crap.
All of yhe metal musicians I know are feminists. There are a number of prominent metal bands with gay members. Women in bands is not that uncommon when you get out of the hot topic genres.
When clearly anti-women people in this thread are talking about not knowing any women into metal i start laughing my ass off. You just don't know any women jackass.
>All of yhe metal musicians I know are feminists
That article's hilarious, all of the bands she name-drops are entry-level shite and then she pretends that she's knowledgeable on the entire genre.
Have some chick metal
It's actually just an ongoing gag in metal to be over the top and brutal, mostly through tradition of older bands. It's the equivalent of Aussie shitposting.
Most brutal metal bands will actually tell you that the lyrics are only brutal and never serious because they're focusing on the songwriting and are just taking the piss with the lyricism. The only metal bands that take themselves seriously to autistic levels are one man uber-kvlt black metal bands.
While we're on topic, could anyone share pic related?
Cant find it anywhere
What are some ebin metal lyrics bros? Like:
Dead baby on my cock
I force my meat through her womb her baby's blood is like perfume
Her unborn skewered on my dick the feeling makes my cum shoot thick
Why are metal lyrics so pretentious?
>Manor operants quarter surging disconcert
>Pitching fulgor in lieu of those who shone
>Waxen shawls of omenknow afune
>Cornerstones of telemetry gloom
>Ornery de luminate decree
>Seepia accord thee
>Stygian obsequious antipodes
>Drear thy larder pardoor thy quay
>Villas ecto; villas ecto; villas ecto; villas ecto;
>Villas ecto; villas ecto; villas ecto; villas ecto
>Plague wove rue
I know its just so problematic
Lets all lower ourselves to their level and give them the attention they want and talk about how much smarter we are than them instead of focusing shit that actually matters
So misogynistic! Oy vey! Women are not a tool for satanic impregnation and giving birth to the anti-christ!
Why do bigits think it's acceptable to make artwork of penises eating intestines out of fem-jesus's vagina? triggered
>bougie college student BLM intimidating professors and admins to step down left and right
>ghetto NigLivesMatter goes out in the streets and routinely destroys property and advocates/commits acts of violence up to and including brandishing and using guns, no one calls them the literal terrorists that they are
>literally cannot have a conversation about gender issues on television without it being relegated to the purvey of feminist rhetoric
>people unironically voting for Hillary because she's a woman, le current year XDDD
>~40% of millennials think the first amendment is too permissive
>can literally lose your job/education for having the wrong opinion or making an unapproved joke, even if it was just in a twit or normiebook comment
>SJWs aren't a problem, just ignore them, they'll go away
I second that.
Also, metal lyrics are often — not always, but often — so over-the-top it's hard to take them seriously. When you talk about total annihilation, murder, demons and fantasy shit all the time it's pretty clear you're either legit crazy or putting on an act, not honestly advocating these things.
That's not the case with hip hop. Even though there is some exaggeration that comes with the braggadoccio, gangsta rap artists just spout the vilest shit completely seriously. NWA, Odd Future, Lil Ugly Mane are all sickening in that way.
The vocalist is also in Agoraphobic Nosebleed, they're fun. Also another example of the over-the-top shit I mentioned above — many of their lyrics are homophobic or misogynistic or whatever, but they're so completely over-the-top you'd be silly to take them seriously.
Just go to /d/ and whatever /western d/ is called.
>Okay, so our music is pretty mediocre, screechy black metal. How do we sell this shit?
>I know! Lets put a load of gross imagery on the album in the hope that some edge-lord will find it appealing.
>dragged into sunlight
>dragged into sunlight
dragged into sunlight is some strange sludge/death/black hybrid
lord mantis is literally just sludge metal
If anything, that sort of subtlety makes things worse, because it sets a precedent for what can be gotten away with without people realising it. At least with metal, it is what it is and there's no argument in terms of what you're getting.
The cool thing about metal is that there is always a solution. If you dont care about good lyrics you listen to cookie monster vocals. If vocals arent your priority than you listen to something challenging like tech death
This is some abstract alt Black Metal with guttural
And fucking doom metal is more tech than this :')
Surprise Surprise, even tough this album is new it's probably one of their best
10/10 tech death
>That's just as inefficient and dumb as alt speed doom metal
>It's just alt black
No, it's literally just dissonant tech-death recorded with a potato that relies heavily on atmosphere. Something can be technical and atmospheric at the same time, lad. It isn't even black metal.
ayy it's straight up tech-death, not all tech death is pristine and sterile
No, it's the same shit.
Why don't you useless cucks try being happy for once?
It's a much better experience.
>if you don't stop excluding women your genre will die out
>regarding one of the largest genres of music in the world
There are numerous other issues in the article (misogynistic shitbags not being any more common than in other genres, arguably much less common actually outside of the teen shockcore bands) but this one really stands out since even if everything else was correct it would just be to support this central thesis that doesn't make any sense whatsoever. They actually weakened their position by making such an obviously baseless threat instead of just leaving it all at "hey maybe don't be a douche purely because not being a douche is a good thing."
I think Hillary Clinton is actually a good politician but jesus fucking christ you make some pretty profound points
That word doesn't mean what you must think it means, the lyrics are usually ridiculous precisely because the band doesn't take it seriously at all. Instrumental composition has always been one of the central focuses of the genre and for many, many metal bands everything else is secondary.
SJWs won't because metal lyricism is largely ironic and the vast majority of metal musicians are passionate and sincere with what they do. SJWs have been trying to invade metal since the 80s and metal alongside vidya has always been a scapegoat. The reason why SJWs gained a foothold in vidya is because vidya is mainstream and businesses want to appeal to the mainstream. Metal on the otherhand is practically dead in the mainstream, the only metal SJWs invade are metalcore, deathcore, and dadthrash bands trying to stay relevant. Underground, SJWs will never get a foothold because metal bands and metal communities are not nearly as misogynistic as the lyrics imply and metal bands only cater towards their fanbase because they know they won't make mainstream headlines for making black metal about treating woman kindly.
There's actually a brutal death metal band with a woman frontman and their lyrics are about butchering women, ironically enough.
all of this, plus they willfully miss the point that it's almost always for shock factor anyway
there are also a lot of metal bands with no lyrics like this at all
whereas hip-hop is full of people speaking from real-life experience and talking about shit they've seen and done without any sense of irony, and is somehow perfectly okay
I wouldn't even argue that SJWs really have a foothold in vidya
They have their "journos" of course but those people are just forced memeing the PC nonsense. The average gamer doesn't support that type of person, they only have any sway with indie pixelshit faggots.
For every major dev who gets cowed into appealing to their demands, there's another who says "fuck off" or just ignores them entirely. Have faith anon. Call it out when you see it but don't let them feel like they've won
>There's actually a brutal death metal band with a woman frontman and their lyrics are about butchering women, ironically enough.
Yeah i knew someone was gonna call me out on that so here goes
Shes a left centeist who doesnt limit herself to establishment shilling and limiting herself to thinking within the confines of the liberal political philosophy box, and is actually right leaning on economic and foreign policy issues, the two issues where being conservative is actually good
Not to mention in the wake of George W. Bush's royal assfucking of the conservative brand and the complete lack of conservative former cabinet members who people actually have a positive opinion of aside from fucking Condelezza Rice the only alternative to hillary are a bunch of so-so politicians like Christie and Rubio who eant to jump from micromanaging incosequential state issues to running the fucking country, not sure im comfortable with that
The way you describe makes it sound like a particularly brutal murder and not a convicted and executed felon who in all likelihood donated her body for scientific purposes. There's also a male version of that out there somewhere too. I find both quite interesting and not at all disturbing.
>dead bodies are spooky
It's a corpse, just because a woman is screaming at the beginning of the song it doesn't mean the body is actually feeling any pain from the process shown. Even if they were alive, which they weren't, they would have been dead within the first few slides.
I don't know man, some of the bands I listen to are/were pretty famous and have prominent women members IE Eluveitie and Fairyland, even Peste Noire has a recurrent female guest vocalist.
>black men listen to burzum and NSBM, are able to separate art from artist and politics from enjoyment
>women can't enjoy metal because 'uncomfortable misogyny'
Just google picture searched babymetal and they look probably a bit lolita but not much. Are they underage?
>elastic heart video
here in Germany it was discussed as atleast subliminal sexual and at the borders of moral
>Can you name 20 metal acts with at least one female member?
Roman so Words
just finished listening to this
please recommend something similar to this for listening while sinking into depression.
I just named them from bands I'm familiar with. I'm sure anyone else that actually listens to a decent amount of metal could also name a bunch of groups with female members. It's a dumb question.
Yeah yeah, I'm sure there's a deeper structure I'm just not getting, but that's how they sound to me, and I have enough other music that I figured I didn't need to give them any more chances.
>implying bands can't be blends of multiple genres, to varying degrees
>implying it isn't just blackened rather than full-on black metal
Nope, pretty sure Power is the one with classical influence, glam on the other hand is kinda of a bridge between Heavy and Speed with androgynous/faggot aesthetics and a shit load of misogyny
Glam rock is not metal nor does it serve as any sort of bridge between metal subgenres.
>inb4 glam metal
That's just bands that were on the borderline of glam rock and heavy metal like Motley Crue. It's not a proper subgenre.
>turned $1mil into billions of $
Cry all you want, if someone gave you a million dollars right now you wouldn't manage shit with it. You'd buy some dumb shit with it, get no return on it and be back to your life as it was in no time.
It's like finding a $1 on the ground and turning it into thousands of dollars.
Get these assraged lib'ruls outta my /mu/
>literally using the same tactics as they did with vdya
>"the problem with metal is metalheads"
>not weak soulless riotgrrlshit
it seriously has the lifelessness of christian rock
>go to Riotfest Chicago 2014
>Greg Graffin, Henry Rollins and members of Pussy Riot sitting in at feminist panel
>some literally who feminists fill out the rest of the panel
>everyone on the stage and in the crowd is a raging leftist
>literally openly opposing the first amendment
>"US is evil they cause everything bad in the world durrrr :L"
>teenage/early twenties crowd clapping and cheering for everything
>turn around and walk away in disgust after 20 minutes of this shit
>go see Flaming Lips
She's also a known liar.
>doesn't limit herself to establishment shilling
She's a politician first, human being second. She's only ever supported issues when it has proven politically advantageous to her.
I consider myself to be quite liberal, but if you put a gun to my head and asked me to choose between Trump and Clinton, I'd choose Trump every time.
Because career politicians have done a much better job, right?
They're all lying fucks, and electing a businessman would actually be a real change from the status quo
>b-but muh bernie
Bernie is a fucking career politician too, he has a cleaner record than most but he's a politician nonetheless and is not above making shrewd self-serving decisions over what people actually want.
He hasn't said any more than Trump has about the specifics of his plan. None of them have.
If the will of the people is fulfilled, this will be a Bernie vs Trump election, and Trump's charisma is going to wipe the floor Bernie's cuckoldry. He can't even handle attacks from his own party, how is he going to handle Trump?
In terms of shaking shit up, either Bernie or Trump would do well to change the status quo. At least they're both honest and, in the context of the current race, self-made. I think they both represent such radically different viewpoints to traditional, bickering candidates that either presidency would go well enough while being legitimately interesting.
She's a literal criminal and a shit human being
Show me something highly illegal that Trump has done, risk the wellbeing of millions of people. I'll wait.
Hillary could be indicted within the next couple of months because the FBI has so much dirt on her from the emails alone
Punk was never meant to be an ideological movement, it was an aesthetic from the beginning and lots of different bands had different views until it was coopted by leftists
Technicality usually comes from three main things:
1) Speed. Doing something quickly is usually more difficult than doing it slowly, requiring better technique. Note that sloppy speed is actually very easy though, it's only when the notes are accurately placed that it becomes hard.
2) Coordination, usually in the form of awkward rests and transitions. A four limb samba pattern is often more difficult to play on a drum kit than a generic blast beat and an upbeat djent pattern is going to be more difficult than the samba. The guitarist equivalent requires lots of movement around the fret board.
3) Memorization. This is something that is really downplayed but 20 minute song with even a little bit of detail is often going to be much tougher to learn than a three minute math rock jam that changes meters every few bars.
Those are the main things that music can play up to require technical proficiency and you don't necessarily need all three at a technical level for the song to be considered technical, any one of them taken to extremes is enough. There is also the less frequent point of something requiring an extended technique that is simply difficult to execute in context, like running a hand down a tom when you strike it to produce a glissando effect or retuning a guitar mid-chord to very specific microtonal intervals.
To bring this back to what they were saying, they probably meant that the music only stressed the speed aspect but didn't do it to a degree that could be reasonably considered technically difficult or that it was sloppily performed. That's usually what people mean when they say things like that anyway.
>Note that sloppy speed is actually very easy though.
Really fast playing doesn't sound like shit if you mess up a just little bit, but playing slowly makes every little timing error much more noticeable.
I'd also like to add improvisation to this list. Not necessarily for metal but especially in certain kinds of jazz where the chord progression is very complex it can be tricky to improvise while still following the progression.
Definitely. I'd kind of lump improv somewhere in between memorization and coordination though, it's a matter of knowing what the "right" notes are at all times and then being comfortable enough to move your fingers/arms/mouth bits to play fluidly. The rest of it comes down to creativity which is separate from ability.
they would be 10x better without the choreographed dancing aside from a few things here and there. and yes their fanbase is all anime memelords and hipsters. Some of their stuff isnt bad for what they are/do though
i like metal, this comment is retarded
on another note:
sure some metal bands talk shit about women, and i may listen to them unknowingly
for the most part i dont let anyone know i listen to them and i dont pay for their albums so who am i really hurting?
ill pay for an album once i know the band isnt sexist racist and or one of their members has gauges.
i can see why you would think that but i do own their album and i enjoyed it the first few times i listened to it
now i hide it under my bed and only listen to it when my parents go to sleep with my special sock
>get down to the last line of the article
>"And besides, it’s already 2015."