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Real Talk, was the death of Michael Jackson the biggest worldwide mourning for a musician? Has anyone come close?
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David Bowie
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Elvis Presley
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>>61647602
Of course
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>>61647602
Elvis was probably bigger.
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>>61647602
no one will ever come close. if madonna died like right now then maybe, but she's probably gonna live to 100
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>>61647602
me
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Johnny cash and george harrison come close in my lifetime
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>>61647602
Possibly elvis or John Lennon, but likely Michael is the top
Bowie's gonna come close though.
His album's going to break all the records.
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Probably John Lennon
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Bob Dylan's death was a pretty big deal
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Cobain


people were literally killing themselves
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>>61647602
John Lennon was a big everyone, all the world was mourning him.

But yeah MJ's death shocked a big part of the world too.
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>>61647800
*faggots were literally killing themselves
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>>61647793
He'll be fine
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>>61647775
>Possibly elvis or John Lennon
This
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MJ is DEAD?! Curse your meme magic.
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Eminem is unfortunately going to probably shatter MJ, unrightfully.
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>>61648062
I doubt it, his demographic is relatively tiny. The kiddies will blow it out of proportion though.
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Like everyone else is saying, John Lennon and elvis mainly. Probably sinatra just by logic although I was extremely young so I don't remember it. To the people saying George Harrison, he was an amazing musician but let's be honest, he's the least popular of the Beatles. There's not a ton of metal heads here but lemmy hit basically every single metal head super hard. Even if you weren't super into motörhead, it fucking sucked because practically every metal band that didn't pioneer metal with motörhead was influenced by them or one of their biggest influences was influenced by lemmy.
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>>61647869
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Jackson for sure, also the most overhyped musican, fucker only had 2 good albums with Off The Wall and Thriller.
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I think MJ deserved the huge mourning. I can't really think of anyone else that does.

>>61647704
>>61647722
I doubt it. You think people in fucking Japan cared about Elvis?

>>61647775
No it won't lol. Blackstar won't even go diamond.
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>>61647602

I found out this dude died watching sportcentre kek
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Lennon was probably the biggest
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MJ also had the comeback and the polemic circumstances.
Paul McCartney is so old it's not gonna make that much of a show when it happens.
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>>61649125
>>61649125
I was at boy scout camp away from internet, and we all thought one of the leaders was trolling us hard.
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>>61647602
>wasn't alive when Elvis died

kill yourself, kid
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>>61648973
I dislike Bad's overwhelming embrace of 80s cliches, but there are a lot of fucking jams on that thing. Speed Demon. Another Part of Me. Leave Me Alone. The funk riff in Smooth Crimminal. The fact that he wrote nearly the whole album is also commendable. I think Dangerous had a lot of potential as well, and it really makes me wish there was some kind of Michael Jackson house record. Just listen to the chords in Can't Let Her Get Away.

Also, Michael is a performer first and foremost. Do you really think anyone getting radio play today can top his singing + dancing? The Weeknd can't even sing live very well standing still.
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MJ was the great uniter. There won't be another like him in 100 years.
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>Dies in the summer, I don't give a shit
>Come back to school September and everyone is fucking upset still
They were the same fucks making child molestation jokes too
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>>61649318
Jam was my shit
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MJ was bigger than Elvis but that's because internet. Bowie will be up there but not as big as those two. McCartney will be the big one, he'll get like a state funeral or something.
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>Elvis
>Lennon
>Cobain
>Jackson
Anyone else big that I'm missing? Freddie Mercury maybe?
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>>61649080
>I doubt it. You think people in fucking Japan cared about Elvis?
yes they do but not in generally
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>>61649080
Elvis was huge in Japan. Even bigger in the Philippines.

But not quite as big in China, where I guess MJ had an advantage.
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Elvis Presley's was the biggest of all time until John Lennon's topped it. Michael Jackson's was huge too but it still didn't quite compare. Kurt Cobain's is somewhere up there.

John Lennon's was too shocking to be topped.
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It happened literally hours ago and at a time when most of the people who would care are asleep or just waking up

It'll be BIG fucking news tomorrow
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>>61649318 (me)
And you seemed to disregard the fact that MJ fucking MADE the Jacksons' careers. His singing on their albums is impeccable.

>>61649357
Same thing at my school lol.
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This has potential to be by far the biggest

>literally just proved to everyone that he isn't an old irrelevant cunt, has tons of hype, then dies

Jackson, two days before he died, was an absolute fucking nobody who was the butt of billions of jokes. I literally grew up for 14 years of my life without even thinking Michael Jackson was anything other than a rapey cunt. Until he died, I had no idea anyone even unironically liked him.

Bowie has always been a legend, and is every bit as huge as Jackson in terms of popularity. This is far bigger.
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>>61649524
Generally is what I mean though. So no.
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LE FAHNNY HELL BE FINE MAYMAY
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>>61649679
>Bowie has always been a legend, and is every bit as huge as Jackson in terms of popularity. This is far bigger.
No, not even close. I'm definitely a bigger fan of Bowie, but I don't think you understand just how huge Michael Jackson was.
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>>61649228
When Sinatra died it was big news despite him being old and senile, I remember my TV Station having a helicopter at his estate just like they did with Jackson. It signified the end of an era as him and the Rat Pack took the world by storm.

If McCartney dies after Ringo similar sentiments will be felt as there will be no Beatles left.

Think about it, I can most certainly guarantee there will never be performers as popular as Sinatra, Beatles, or Jackson were. The digital era has really scattered music tastes (which is a good thing) but at the same time there won't be a shared common love people have for one song or album.
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>>61649679
You just had a twisted sheltered perception. Also there was tons of hype surrounding his this is it concert then he just dropped dead.
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>>61649679
You've gotta be joking mate. MJ was on the verge of starting a "tour" (a series of shows at the O2 Arena) that nearly grossed a billion dollars. Tickets sold out in seconds and press conferences for the shows were getting news coverage.
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>>61649679
David Bowie is not even close to being as much of a phenomenon as Michael. And imo I think Bowie is kinda washed up, but so was Jackson before he announced his last shows.
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>>61649679
>Bowie has always been a legend, and is every bit as huge as Jackson in terms of popularity. This is far bigger.
not trying to be mean, but i don't think you're old enough to understand the significance michael jackson had for a lot of people. it far surpasses bowie's.
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If Kanye West died within the next 30 days, his death would probably be bigger. Itd be amplified by bowie dying first and then his album coming out. Even if Bowie didn't die and he didn't have an album coming, his death alone would still be fucking huge.
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>>61649886
The album he put out a week ago was solid

>>61650020
https://twitter.com/kanyewest/status/686449257767776256
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>>61649679
We get it man, you were 15-18 when he died and didn't understand what he meant to the world outside of that one South Park episode.

You're totally, unequivocally wrong, by the way.
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>>61649507
Tupac's murder was pretty big news. I was a kid in Flores, Indonesia at the time, and it was actually news over there, in 1996. People knew who he was.
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MJ was known more for being an alien looking pedophile than his music, so in pure music terms Bowie is definitely bigger.
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>>61650121
you're showing your age here
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>>61650121
You're the same faggot that posted earlier, stop.
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>>61650121
YOUTH
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>>61650160
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>>61649679
Michael Jackson is the third highest selling artist ever, topped only by The Beatles and Elvis Presley. Not even Bing Crosby, who was the biggest artist of the first half of the 20th century was that big.

David Bowie is huge but Michael Jackson was a goliath.
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So is Black Star then going to be the new American IV?
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>>61647778
This.
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>>61647602
David Bowie's death will blow up more in the coming weeks. Michael Jacksons was more of a shock because he was an incredibly controversial figure in the media.
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richard simmons

we will miss him dearly
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>>61649080
>You think people in fucking Japan cared about Elvis?
Of course not. It's not like there are loads of people cosplaying in public as him every day.

Wait...
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>>61650020
Don't kid yourself. If Kanye died there'd be shock and conspiracy theories because it's weird when a young man dies out of nowhere. His death would be a media circus ala Kurt Cobain or 2Pac.

Kanye doesn't even have a quarter of the success Bowie had, and he's horribly alienated his fans for the last few years, only /mu/ likes Yeezus.
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>>61649886
>kind of washed up
Washed up implies you're a desperate celebrity doing anything to remain in the spotlight. He did anything but.
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>>61649578
Elvis and JL also died way too young, in their early 40s. Lemmy was like 70 so his death was not so surprising.
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Bowie is big, huge with the Brits maybe a bit less so here. It'll be a bigger story perhaps over there.
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>>61650296
Yeah I made a mistake, I should've named a far more remote country. Point is, MJ had fans imitating his dance moves in fucking 3rd world countries.
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>>61650221
>so close to trips
Simmons lives another day
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>>61650213
>Michael Jacksons was more of a shock because he was an incredibly controversial figure in the media.
of course this played a part, but it's far from the only, or even main, reason jackson's death was such a big deal. let's not forget that michael jackson was one of pop music's most recognizable figures for decades prior to the child abuse allegations. he wasn't known as the king of pop for nothing.
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>>61647800
yep they were. That was nuts. For me it's Cobain, Elvis, Jackson, Cash, and Mercury.
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>>61650448
>He wasn't known as the king of pop for nothing
Agreed. I also think it was because he was one of the first if not the first African American males to become so incredibly famous around the world.
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>>61649780
I think when Chuck Berry goes, it will also be seen as the end of an era.
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>>61650320
I think Kanye's name will be as prolific as Bowie's by the end of his career if it isn't already.
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>>61650328
Well I'm sure we can at least agree that Bowie was far past his prime.
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wayne static's death hit me hardest....
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Lennon and Bowie blow that kiddiediddling hack out of the water
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>>61650213
Or because he defined the 80s and helped define the 70s
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>>61650519
keep riding it kid. or keep trolling I don't know anymore.
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>>61650520
That doesn't mean he was washed up though. Many famous artists enjoy living the quiet life after decades of fame. He was one of them. I'd rather a celebrity live gracefully then do desperate pathetic things in an attempt to stay relevant.
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Kurt Cobain's death wasn't that big of a media story compared with MJ though. Back at the time most of the coverage consisted of baby boomer talking heads running him into the ground and calling him a junkie loser and "This is what kids idolize today." (like all your 60s heroes weren't junkies).
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Buddy Holly
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>>61650593
In 20 years he'll still have the same pathetic children that hate him for seemingly no reason because they eat up anything that the media tells them to.
>>61650619
Beatles, Stones, Sabbath were among the biggest in their respective genres and they were all on drugs at one point or another.
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>>61650628
seriously how did no one think of this
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>>61650165

Nope, that was my first post.

>butthurt wacko jacko marks
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>>61650593
Think about how popular he already is, he's been consistently critically and commercially acclaimed for a decade. He'll undoubtedly be a legend.
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>>61650628
"The day that music died".
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>>61650662
Probably for a good reason.
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>>61650601
>That doesn't mean he was washed up though. Many famous artists enjoy living the quiet life after decades of fame. He was one of them. I'd rather a celebrity live gracefully then do desperate pathetic things in an attempt to stay relevant.
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>>61650672
if you actually think he was more known for his alleged sex abuse than his music, that only shows you're too young to have the necessary perspective on this. try talking about jackson with anyone other than your classmates and you'll see what i mean.
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>>61650745
Cool response. A reaction image that you've already used along with quoting my post word for word. Good argument.
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>>61650320
>only /mu/ likes Yeezus.

>released one song on friday
>entire music world went into yeezy season

You must be a stupid person.
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>>61650601
>>61650520
Well, you could argue that Johnny Cash was past his prime when he covered Hurt if you consider his prime to be the Ring of Fire days, but...
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>>61650619
It was still a spectacle though. He's right behind Michael, Lennon, and Elvis
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>>61650794
He was past his prime. Covering a song isn't desperate. Jesus Christ. Do people in here not know what washed up means? Look at any pathetic faggot on Celebrity Big Brother. That's washed up.
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In terms of biggest, it probably goes something like:

John Lennon
Elvis Presley
Michael Jackson
Frank Sinatra
Whitney Houston
Kurt Cobain
Tupac Shakur
Amy Winehouse
Bing Crosby

Orders can be rearranged to a degree and there are definitely others, but those are some of the biggest. Lennon, Presley and Jackson probably sit on a tier of their own.

>>61650342
The thing about John Lennon is nobody's came as more of a shock than his.
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Remember how Johnny Cash died the same day as John Ritter? lel my roommate and I got in a fight over who was the bigger deal.
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>>61650745
Too bad Grace Potter can't touch Merry Clayton; nobody could touch her. The Stones have had a lot of girls performing GS live with them over the years, but you were always able to notice Mick and Keith faintly shaking their heads and knowing none of them were the little black girl who came into the studio at 2:00 AM in her robe and hair curlers.
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>>61650888
Who did you say?
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>>61650601
But if he was really loving the quiet life he'd stop making albums. They got worse and worse. I think his style stagnated. He belongs in the 20th century imo
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>everyone in here saying "duur but MJ was only highly remembered because he was a controversial figure"

how fucking stupid can you get? this one man helped define DECADES of music, is one of the best selling artists of all time (and will continue to be years and years and years after his death), and had people in piss poor, 3rd world countries imitating him.

Bowie is huge, and will/should be remembered. But if you want to compare who's death is "bigger" in terms of outcry and remembrance, it's MJ's without even a second guess.
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My money is on Chuck Berry dying next, dude's 89
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>>61650888
I think John Ritter was desu
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>>61649357
>everyone is fucking upset still

Everyone at my school was making child molestation jokes. In fact, when he died one of the first things I got was a text in the morning from a m8 telling me he's going to be melted down into plastic toys so he could continue to be played with by little kids.
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>>61650845
>>61650794
It's subjective if you consider washed up meaning that you can't make relevant music anymore.
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>>61650845
Okay, I'm sorry. I was the first guy who mentioned washed-up. Change "washed-up" to "ehhh stop trying please".
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>>61650929
Like I said, Bowie is popular with Brits and music geeks. But LOLno he's not even faintly close to MJ for hugeness.
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lennon by far

the way he died, his legacy, etc
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>>61650929
I think it's just people who are too young and/or uneducated to understand just how insanely huge MJ was. All their big pop stars who they think are big today don't even come close to him.
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>>61650925
I said Cash, though in hindsight I'm not sure I agree with that anymore
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>>61650872
There were others that we forget about now. For example, when the opera singer Maria Callas died in the late-70's, it was huge global news for a while.
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>>61651032
I mean, he went to the White House and met the president for God's sake. Combine all movie stars from the last 50 years and all popular musicians/entertainers and each of them put together would not equal how huge MJ was in circa 1985.
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Looking back, George Harrison's death wasn't all that huge relative to Jackson
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what couldve been :(
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>>61650872
Where's GG Allin?
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>>61650888

>yfw you realize john ritter died on his daughters birthday
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>>61651163
Yeah it was surprisingly low key for a guy who was still fairly young (not yet 60 years old) and not expected by normal people to kick it.
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>>61650932
Old dirty Chuck still tours senpai he will never die
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>>61651032
when i was in school in the 90s people would say their role model was micheal jackson all the time

he is probably one of the biggest ever in america
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>>61650872
>Bing Crosby

I never knew that his death was so huge. Of course I wasn't alive back then to remember, but he was in his 70s so that shouldn't have been too out-of-left-field, was it?
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>>61651032
not him but... that may be the problem, MJ was huge but it was due to being the influence behind mainstream acts. Bowie has also influenced tons of people but not your Madonna-esque pop artists, so it seems he wasn't as huge as MJ.

To be honest, MJ is overrated, he was huge but overrated. And Bowie, at least in my country, underrated
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Is there anyone whose death could be bigger than MJ, Elvis or someone like Princess Diana?
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>>61651240
In the WORLD dude. 750 million records sold.
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Certainly not the biggest but a recent one that hit me in the feels was MCA :( RIP in peace
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>>61651308
Given society Justin Bieber could come close. Hate him all you want you won't stop hearing about it for weeks if it happened now
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The top 3 biggest celebrity deaths in my lifetime were, in increasing order of magnitude:

3. Michael Jackson
2. Princess Diana
1. John Lennon

Lennon's death especially was fuckhuge, because he was one of the Beatles which was still the biggest band in the world at the time even though they'd been broken up for a decade. Huge crowds gathered all over the place and they played his solo and Beatle stuff on the radio non-stop for over a WEEK. Some fans committed suicide and Yoko Ono issued a statement asking people not to take it so hard. Commemorative books and magazines came out. Albums were reissued and vanished from the stores in seconds. Double Fantasy (which was an OK album) went #1 everywhere in the world except France, Italy and Japan and won 1980 Album of the Year at the grammys which is fucking insane. If similar things happen to Black Star it wouldn't surprise me a bit. I can't even imagine what /mu/ would have been like back then.

Diana's death was also huge but the hysteria didn't seem to last quite as long as with Lennon and Jackson. Michael Jackson's death was big too but not quite as big as Lennon.
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if MC Ride legitimately died, especially of a suicide, i guarantee you /mu/ would be frothing at the bit for fucking years. way more than bowie, MJ, elvis etc could ever hope to achieve in terms of posthumous fame...only on /mu/, of course
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>>61650872
Wendy O. Williams was a suicide but never got close to the same adulation as Cobain.
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>>61651308
Well yeah someone like a US president while they're in office

I get the feeling we're past the days of ridiculously famous music idols, though
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>>61651402
Whoops, that should be
3. Princess Diana
2. Michael Jackson
1. John Lennon

My bad.
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>>61651402
Diana wasn't a seminal music artist that defined an entire generation. In fact she did nothing except pretend to care about starving African people and bone some sand nig.
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>>61649578
Yeah Lennon was murdered at 40, that's a tragedy.

It's hard to top that so him and MJ get the top
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>>61651402
>in my lifetime
>John Lennon

Come on old man it's time to quit 4chan
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>>61651452
i think its because recording equipment / software is way more accessible to the average person now than it was before

there is kind of an over saturation of new music being put out
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>>61651493
and yet people still mourned like their own mother had died. Even foreigners, which always confuses me. There'll be a monumental shitstorm when the Queen dies.
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>>61651431
Ok but she hadn't been relevant for years and was a recluse when she died. Nirvana were just hitting their peak and were being trumpeted as the Beatles of the 90s when Kurt snuffed himself.
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I bet Bono would be a huge deal
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>>61651296
Overrated can still be good, which I hope is your opinion. I cannot even begin to fathom why someone would dislike Off The Wall or Thriller. Bad & Dangerous had redeeming qualities as well (see >>61649318).
There are some good songs on HIStory too ("Stranger in Moscow", "Earth Song" despite its hokeyness).
Invincible had "Unbreakable" and "You Rock My World".
Hell, even a couple of throwaways that Sony released because of their greedy Jewish ways were good, like "Love Never Felt So Good" (I prefer the original demo, with just piano chords) and "Chicago".
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>>61651505
Yup. It's the fact that he was shot. It killed so many people's hopes of the Beatles getting back together again, which was one of the biggest subjects of speculation in those days.
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According to mum and dad

Princess Diana > John Lennon = Elvis Presley >>>>>>> Michael Jackson
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>>61651572
Whenever I hear about bono people always shit on him but maybe that's just me being biased by 4chan.
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>>61651526
You young whippersnappers and your intertubes.
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>>61651587
Lennon didn't seem to think it would happen, in fact he was baffled at why people still glorified the Beatles so much. He'd just totally moved on in his life.
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>>61651623
hes just annoying as fuck really

i remember people hating on him over 15 years ago
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>>61647602
MJ was the only musician death that made me cry. Before his death, I wasn't very fond of him and I always joked about him. But when he died I remembered what a big influence he had on me when I was a toddler, I used to take MJ cd's out of my mom's music shelf and play them at ridiculously loud volumes and just dance to them. The nostalgia plus MJ's sad life-story made me tear up and feel guilty when he died.

David Bowie's death will never come close to the hype surrounding MJ's death, younger people today don't even know who he is and have never even heard one of his songs. Everybody knew however who Michael Jackson was, because of his scandals, the jokes about him, or his classic songs that were still being played on the radio. MJ's fucked up family even milked his death and allowed his funeral to be streamed live all over the world and turned it into a huge show, while David Bowie's family prefers to keep it private. I remember the day after MJ's death, I was standing in a shop looking at the newspapers, and Michael was on every single one of them. Also on facebook, MJ has 70'000'000 more likes than David Bowie.

Not trying to bash Bowie in any way, his death hit me hard as well, but Bowie's death will never be as big as MJ's death.
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>>61651582
Unbreakable predicted dubstep in 2001. That's how far ahead of his time Jackson was.
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>>61651683
What do you mean? The beat sounds more like Pharrell/The Neptunes than dubstep.
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>>61651402

>Diana's death was also huge but the hysteria didn't seem to last quite as long

To this day there are articles in the Sun/Guardian that comment on her death and the 'conspiracy' surrounding it.
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>>61651534
Oversaturation and the fact that, with everything being instantly accessible, there's not that mysterious aura about artists anymore. That's kind of the thing which made them seem larger than life, which propels the idol status even more. Now you just follow their twitter account and read their everyday thoughts like they're your next door neighbor.
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>>61649679
you do realize that michael jackson was falsely accused by moneygrabbing whores, while david bowie actually fucked 12 year old groupies, right?
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>tfw American so don't give a fuck about Princess Diana or any conspiracy
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>>61651729
Those magazines are stuck in the 20th century. I saw one with Rock Hudson on the cover.
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>>61651765
that was actually a big thing here in usa
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>>61651537
>and yet people still mourned like their own mother had died. Even foreigners, which always confuses me.
There were enormous crowds of people openly weeping and leaving flowers in front of the British Embassy around here in the US. So weird. I mean I liked her too but damn.

>There'll be a monumental shitstorm when the Queen dies.
I am not looking forward to that at all. No, sir.
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>>61651737
MJ was on record as saying "Britney Spears won't last long because she doesn't understand the power of mystery."
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>>61651765
plenty of Americans do
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Jackie Kennedy's death was probably the closest America had to a Diana moment, although she died of natural causes.
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>>61651582
Not to mention some gems from his Jackson 5 days
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>>61651776
At least I don't still see Elvis conspiracy stuff at the supermarket.
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>>61651667
>David Bowie's death will never come close to the hype surrounding MJ's death, younger people today don't even know who he is and have never even heard one of his songs

I can't say I've ever actually listened to a Bowie song while everyone on the fucking planet has heard Thriller at least once.
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>>61651825
Yes, exactly. His life was a blessing to them and they [his siblings] fucked it all up by being dickheads.

https://en.m.wikipedia.org/wiki/Victory_Tour_(The_Jacksons_tour)
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>>61647602
>musician

peadophile.
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>>61651902
like bowie
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Sable_Starr
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>>61651582
you are right, but "good' ... it is a matter of opinion; honestly, I only enjoy like 2 of his songs, but that doesn't mean that he wasn't a huge artist
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>>61649080
This is bait children
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My parents lived in NYC and said people were openly weeping in the streets the night Lennon was shot. Nobody else got that except maybe JFK.
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>>61651539
>>61651431
Like shit. Wendy was never anything more than a trashy novelty act (lyl smash stuff on stage and perform topless so funneh XD)
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>>61651790
>>61651729
>Diana conspiracy
lel I remember that shit too. So stupid. She got in a car with a reckless speeding driver. Happens every day.
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>>61652003
THAT'S WHAT THEY WANT YOU TO BELIEVE
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>>61651872
>I can't say I've ever actually listened to a Bowie song

What the fuck are you doing on a music board?
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>>61651987
There were people bawling hysterically on top of and around MJ's Hollywood walk of fame plaque the day he died.
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>>61651084
True, like I said, there are others. I meant to put Marvin Gaye in there somewhere but I forgot. He was huge news too.

>>61651431
Obviously. WOW's music didn't capture a generation like Kurt Cobain's did.

>>61651402
This. John Lennon's remains untouched for a few reasons. Unlike Elvis or MJ, John Lennon wasn't very far removed from much of his most legendary work, solo or Beatles. He was actually on the brink of a comeback of sorts, and not like the one Elvis had in the late 60s where he came back fat, sweaty, and seen largely as a relic by people whose vision wasn't clouded by 50s nostalgia. John Lennon was someone people desperately wanted to hear from again. To top it all off, John Lennon was an international icon and spokesman for world peace. All criticisms aside, that's what John Lennon was known as to millions of people, and he died in a grisly murder, which made his message that much more earnest when it happened.
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>>61651979
It wasn't, but I understand how it seemed that way. I wasn't alive when Lennon got shot so idk. And I should've named a more remote country than Japan; the point was that MJ had an impact on pop culture in every country in the world. 3rd world street-shitters and starvers were imitating his moves. And MJ was more popular in Eastern Asia than Elvis was anyway. 750 million records sold around the world.

And Blackstar won't break records, don't kid yourself. Maybe Bowie's own records. It won't go diamond.
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>>61651667
When MJ died I didn't give a shit, I was 15 but I was aware of his music. I still don't give a shit

But when I read that Bowie was death, man, I got depressed. I'm not even a fan of Bowie, but I feel more sympathy for his music compared to MJ
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>>61651493
Diana had a connection to music, though - the Elton John tribute song after her death was the biggest-selling single of the entire 90's on a global basis.
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>>61651849
dude, yesterday I was reading bullshit about Elvis' death but nothing about Diana
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>>61647602
Never cared for that pedo tbqh. Bowie's death sucks though, still can't believe it.
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>>61652116
That actually pissed me off. That song belonged to Marilyn.
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>>61652093
What? Are you just saying you're being contrarian? You're "aware" of their music, but say you're not a fan of either artist. But there's still favoritism at play, clearly. Please listen to both of their music.
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>>61652151
Imagine if you could go to Vegas and see a bunch of Diana impersonators on the street kek
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>>61652157
See
>>61651937
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>>61650121
he used to give me recurring nightmares, anyone else know this feel ?
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>>61652086
>>And Blackstar won't break records
Maybe, maybe not. Like someone said above Double Fantasy was just OK but it went number one all over the place and won a grammy. I haven't heard it in a while but I remember enough to know that shit wasn't no grammy material.
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>>61652223
That didn't really address any of my points. I didn't say a Bowie album couldn't get on the charts or win Grammies. Blackstar just won't break records (besides maybe Bowie's own).
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>>61652281
This one used to really fuck with me and still does
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>>61650872
Whitney Houston?
Who the fuck cared about Whitney Houston she was literally a one hit wonder.
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>>61652041
I'm gonna be honest. The last song I listened to was Foreigner Feels Like The First Time because there was a thread about 70s buttrock earlier tonight.
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>>61652350
Whitney Houston is one of the biggest artists of all time but her death wasn't that big
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>>61652341
It really is a damn shame because he used to be a qt
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>>61652082
Vat? Elvis was still very much relevant in the 70s. A few months before he died, the Hawaiian concert broke an all-time TV viewership record. If anything, I'd say Lennon was a lot less relevant in 1980 because he was living in NYC like a hermit.
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>>61652350
She was one of the highest selling artists ever.
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>>61652312
Nobody has multiplat records anymore except Taylor Swift, such is the Internet age.
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>>61652350
Not sure which song you're talking about, but I'm guess the Dolly Pardon one. You apparently don't realize how much of a hit I Wanna Dance with Somebody was.
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>>61652402
And no, I don't think the Beatles would have gotten back together anyway because JL had moved on with his life and he also thought at 40, you couldn't still be a rock star (he laughed at the Stones and Paul McCartney for still trying it as they were pushing middle age).
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>>61652350
How Will I Know was pretty huge.
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>>61652341
yeah i remember seeing this in the news and being terrified ever since

makes me wonder how many people hes affected in that way
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>>61652178
If you want to call it with your meme terms. I have listened to both of them, MJ was a huge success, bigger than Bowie, but his music never got in me and, of course, I tend to prefer Bowie's music
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>>61652421
Adele is about to go Diamond for an album released 2 months ago.
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>>61650509
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=xxixIbONuCQ

It would be a blessing at this stage.
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>>61652536
I didn't use any meme terms. Is contrarian a meme term?

Thanks for at least trying them both out.
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>>61652402
That Hawaii concert was from a few years before he died, not a few months, and many people remember that show for how out of it he looked at times. I already acknowledged that his death, along with Lennon's and Jackson's, sits in a tier of its own in terms of worldwide mourning. John Lennon's death probably still remains the most shocking for reasons I mentioned. Like I said, John Lennon was starting a very highly anticipated comeback a few months before he died.
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>>61652544
It doesn't deserve it, but I hope its success helps revitalize the industry
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Roy Orbison dropped at 52 right when his career was rebounding. That's gotta be up there.
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>>61652082
I wasn't alive when Marvin Gaye died, but man... Your own fucking dad. And right after coming back up with Midnight Love.
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>>61652566
just when they are overused in vietnamese image boards
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In his 22-year career, there were only three years that Elvis did not record anything (1959, 1974, and 1977). If you heard his final songs like Way Down, you knew he was a dying man.
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>>61652597
I doubt it will. Not with all of the cookie-cutter pop and R&B hitting the radio. No fedora.
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>>61651215
>89
>still doing tours
HBA
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>>61652671
The doctors who performed the autopsy said that he had the body of an 80 year old at only 42. He was just physically a mess at the end.
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>>61647734
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=7hPMmzKs62w
But Madonna's already dead
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>>61648889
God damn it I've been away from the news for a couple of weeks and only found out with your post that Lemmy is also dead (and thanks to wiki how fast he passed).
Must've been the worst Christmas ever for a lot of people.
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>>61649679

>my mum still drives me to school: the post
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>Buddy Guy is still alive

huh.
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>>61649080
>i doubt it
bitch sounds like you werent alive when elvis was around
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>>61652833
Apparently Buddy Guy has had a slow-progressing form of dementia since the 90s,
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>>61652739
Truly the king.
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>>61652867
Probably none of us were close to being born when Elvis died, heck many of you were sucking your thumbs when Diana went.
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How has nobody mentioned the big man himself? Jerry Garcia's death was the first big news story of the internet age.
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Johnny Winter - IDR what the reaction to his passing was. It seemed that BB King was a lot bigger deal.
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>>61652867
MJ was undoubtedly more famous than Elvis, at least globally. Maybe Elvis had a former grasp on America.
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>>61651937
both unacceptable, but not the same.
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>>61652929
He was also in awful shape for only his early 50s, probably a good 10-15 years older physically than his calendar age.
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>>61649507
Hendrix?
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Imagine you're watching sports before the internet and you hear this.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=n73GFvAyIjs
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>>61652960
>>61652929
Jerry was an obese diabetic who smoked like a chimney, had a horrible diet, and was worn down by endless touring.
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>>61649507
>>61650450
fuck when did mercury die
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>>61653043
1991 although Queen's European fanbase was twice as big as their US fanbase.
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>>61652938
dude. you have no idea.
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>>61653011
Nobody's disagreeing with that statement. It's a shame he's dead. The world needs Jerry now more than ever.
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>>61653043
You thought he was still alive or wha?
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Scott Weiland's death didn't seem that huge desu.
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>>61652992
It's hard to imagine MNF being interrupted for anything. That must have been crazy.

>>61653043
1991
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>>61653075
I meant firmer
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>>61653111
Him making it that far in life was more huge desu
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>>61653111
It wasn't on the same scale as some of these others but in terms of personal saddness, Weiland's was the hardest for me in a long time.
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>>61653146
Eh, Ozzy still kicking at almost 70 is more of a deal.
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Eazy-E was a pretty big deal too. Obviously not even close to MJ terms, but as far as the hip hop community goes, he was a big one
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>>61648889
Dio's death was a huge blow to the metal community as well.
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>>61649125
>>61649277
>hung over from the night before
>trying to sleep
>everyone in the house starts screaming
>they bust into my room
>MICHEAL'S DEAD OMG
>k
>go back to sleep
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>>61653176
That's true but Ozzy has had Sharron to keep him alive, otherwise he'd be long gone
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Dimebag Darrell
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>>61653213
I guess the fact that he has a wife of 30+ years, three kids, and now grandkids gives the guy something to live for whereas Lemmy had nothing but his music.
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>>61653140
No, you don't understand the concept of having a singular musical icon. Presley was in an era without competition in his prime. MJ sure was at the top, but by the time he came around the music scene was divide by many successful artists. The sort of unparalleled popularity Presley held is something that could never be replicated now. The average person has entire lifetimes of music from thousands of artists at their fingertips. You just dont understand what it was like then.
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>>61653284
Michael was still more famous at his prime than Elvis was at his.
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>>61653390
Not him, but no he wasn't.
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>lemmy and bowie killed by cancer
>4chan memes literally gave these people cancer
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>>61653227
Fuck, how did I forget this? That was metal's John Lennon moment.
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>>61647800
>people were literally killing themselves

Just like Robin Williams, and every other celebrity suicide.

It has been proven that suicide rates spike after a celebrity suicide, so this isn't really significant.
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>>61653422
Michael sold more records
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>>61653490
dude you are literally talking out of your ass. you are right, technically but that doesnt count for anything. most people didnt even have record players, just radio... you really dont get it.
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>>61653490
>Elvis estimated 1 billion
>MJ estimated 750 million
Try again.
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>>61653534
If you mean pre-1950s, sheet music and the radio were more important than records, but by the time Elvis was around, every American home pretty much had a record player.
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Lennon for sure. All people here in gommie countries cried for him. He was more a symbol, really. Freedom and stuff.
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>>61653542
Not him but MJ's records were a much bigger deal than Elvis', who release something every year. Elvis had his movies, though. I don't think anybody here can really say who was bigger in their prime, unless you're literally 80 years old
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>pretending like he was still relevant to you and wasn't just generally an overly eccentric gay guy

most people don't even know who he is in the grand scheme of things, there's no way most of these posts are actually genuine. Get over yourselves.
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>>61653665
>anime
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>>61653595
you are grossly oversimplifying. I don't know why I bother you're clearly convinced. you seriously lack the capacity to comprehend the idea of a single music icon without competition.
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>>61647982
>archives don't go back far enough to find out if someone meme magiced MJ to death
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>>61653542
Huh. Yeah I was wrong. MJ wins when it comes to the sales of individual albums though. Thriller is the first album to go 30x platinum in the US. Again, I was wrong about him outselling Elvis altogether.

>>61653665
It's time to stop posting
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>>61649886
>Bowie is kinda washed up
>released AOTY three days before he died
pls leave
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>>61653787
It's okay to think it's a good album, but let's not be delusional
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>>61651402
People reportedly killed themselves when MJ died too. Also, I recall the news coverage of MJ's death was so long that the news were covering how long the news was covering MJ's death. That takes a different kind of special.
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>>61653878
>implying it won't be AOTY
He literally died. It's guaranteed.
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>>61651600
Are your parents white?
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>>61651872
I'm pretty sure you've listened to Space Oddity you just haven't realized it
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>>61652350
She was far from a one hit wonder. Far from it.
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>>61652968
Nah from what ive heard hendrixs death was covered by the media as "junkie musician overdoses on heroin" and brushed aside even though thats far from the truth as the man never did heroin. There doesnt seem to have been much fan fare as there was for the other musicians that died, but in the musician circles he was honered greatly, a whole bunch of cats played at his funeral
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>>61652833
>>61652888
I really hope i get to see him live before he goes, i missed out on BB king and i will always regret it
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>>61653422
Yes he was are you kidding me? Michael owned the 80s.
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>>61653649
>Not him but MJ's records were a much bigger deal than Elvis', who release something every year.
I agree with that. I think Thriller remains the highest selling album of all time, if I'm not mistaken.

>>61653750
>MJ wins when it comes to the sales of individual albums though.
True. It's still worth noting that in Elvis' era, singles were far more important than studio albums.

Either way, only after The Beatles, EP and MJ sold more than anybody.
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>>61653542
There's no proof of that billion.
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>>61654100
see
>>61653542

Also, Elvis owned the 50s. What's your point?
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>>61654131
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>>61654125
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>>61654125
Technically there's no proof of the 750 million either. Both are rough but relatively accurate estimations accumulated from recording industry associations from a ton of different countries. Still, from almost every reliable source, Elvis Presley is estimated to have sold more units (albums, singles, etc) than Michael Jackson.
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>>61654058
This. It was kind of the same with Jim Morrison and Janis Joplin.
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>>61650792
>entire music world went into yeezy season
You mean the entire world called it garbage.

and laughed at him for feuding with a shoe company at this stage of his career too

and laughed that bowie 40 years past his prime released a better received album
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>>61654100
Yes, but he was pretty universally mocked for the last decade of his life. I don't disagree that he's more relevant, but the rise of the internet probably really helped his fanbase grow, while for MJ all it really did was spawn a bunch of flash games and shit joking about him. A part of that is no doubt because MJ's music is way more poppy and straight up than bowie's, or really most anyone else for that matter.

It wasn't just one south park episode dude. It was pretty much the entire world hating on him and doing a massive 180 once it killed him. You even had shepard smith on fox news with "Wacko Jacko is at it again" segments
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>>61654522
>but the rise of the internet probably helped his fanbase grow
referring to david bowie in this case
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>>61654389
Kanye hasn't dropped yet
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>>61650412
As a Brit I can confirm. I was gonna buy Blackstar today anyway but having heard the news this morning and eventually overcoming the shock and devastation, I rushed down the record store to grab a copy before it sold out. There was a big queue and the atmosphere was incredibly surreal in there. The cashier serving me had tears in his eyes. There's also an Aladdin Sane cover art painting on the side of a pub near my house which already has flowers laid by it. I was wearing a Ziggy t-shirt and everyone who passed me on the street and saw it looked miserable as fuck.
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>>61654389
bud i think it's time you log off and get some fresh air
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>>61647800
>people were literally killing themselves
Same thing happened when that one guy from X Japan died
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>>61649125
>using the Internet
>wondering why Google is slow and fuck and keeps crashing
>so many people were googling Michael's death that it almost broke the Internet
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John Lennon's death will forever be the most shocking and memorable musical death, I can't think of a more iconic and beloved band than the Beatles and having John who was pretty much the only Beatle at the time to have made something of himself after leaving the band get murdered was just too much. I never liked MJ so I got a bit annoyed at all the media coverage but whatever. Poor Bowie, God dammit. Too young.
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>>61647602
Needed MJ copypasta

The story is rather tragic. I do believe that had the internet existed in 1994 in it's current form, Jackson would still be alive today. Jackson was very much the victim of public perception. Yes, he was clearly an eccentric with many quirks, but the "child molestation" thing was hogwash. GQ published a non-bias article in 1994 entitled "Was Michael Jackson Framed?" that you can find all over the net. Here's one link: http://floacist.wordpress.com/2007/08/22/gq-article-was-michael-jackson-framed/ ... It's a pretty fascinating read that details exactly what happened during that first accusation. Most people haven't read it, though... because it's easier and more "interesting" (and at the time, "funnier") to imagine him as some kind of freak.

Anyone unfamiliar with what actually happened there, I'd really recommend reading it. The TL;DR: version is pretty god damn fucked up. He befriended a young boy, his mother and step-father. The biological father wanted money to produce "Robin Hood Men In Tights" so he brainwashed his son with sodium Amytal in an attempt to extort money out of Jackson... knowing full-well he wouldn't want to go through a long career-tarnishing trial. There's taped conversations between the father and step-father where the father lays out his entire plan. > “And if I go through with this, I win big-time. There’s no way I lose. I’ve checked that inside out. I will get everything I want, and they will be destroyed forever. June will lose [custody of the son]…and Michael’s career will be over.”
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>>61655122

It's whack. Seriously... read it. FYI, the father ended up killing himself in 2009 only 5 months after Jackson died: http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Evan_Chandler

My point is, public perception in 1994 was so heavily dependent on shock media, magazine covers, radio, talk show monologues, etc. Had Reddit existed back then, we would have seen the smoking gun. People would be chatting over the details on a daily basis. It would have been very difficult for the public to remain that misinformed and warped by rumor and heresay.

But the perception stuck. And clearly it weighed heavily on Jackson... someone who had dedicated his life to helping children in need. He was clearly depressed. He turned to drugs. As we later found out, he needed to be medicated to even sleep. I can't imagine what that had to have been like..

That was the only time anyone ever accused Jackson of wrongdoing... until 11 years later in 2005, but this time it was CLEARLY bullshit and a clear attempt at extortion. Anyone following that trial was aware of how ridiculous the claims were. I'll summarize. It was right after the huge documentary "Living with Michael Jackson" that Martin Bashir did. Jackson was all over the news for the "baby dangling" incident. In the documentary, it showed that Jackson took in a young cancer patient, his mother and sister and was paying for the boy's treatment (last I heard, he's now cancer-free). He was close with the boy and the family. It made the news, because of the scene where Jackson says, "What's wrong with sharing a bed with someone you love?" in reference to the young boy. The public took it (or twisted it) to be a sexual thing... Jackson intended it as an innocent remark... hanging out late playing video games on a massive bed and someone passes out. Inappropriate? Maybe. Molestation? No.
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>>61655145
Anyways... the mother of the boy had been in and out of mental institutions and had attempted to con money from celebrities in the past (the reason for Jay Leno and George Lopez being at the trial). She also claimed her family had been "sexually fondled" by JC Penny security after her punk kids shoplifted... she settled out of court for $152k. So anyhow, the Bashir documentary was a shitshow, people like Gloria Allred were petitioning to have Jackson's kids taken away... and Jackson's handlers told him to distance himself from the young boy and the family... so he cut them off. It was only after that, that the woman and the boy accused Jackson of misconduct. The funny part was, they literally claimed the molestation started AFTER the documentary aired. As if Jackson hung out with the kid, let them live at Neverland, passed out playing videogames, filmed a documentary admitting that it was innocent... and then when the entire world started looking at the relationship with a magnifying glass and wanted to take away Jackson's kids (and apparently the family had already been interviewed by police)... THAT's when Jackson decided to start molesting the kid. Come on... Whole thing was a crock of shit. The woman also claimed they were held hostage at Neverland... to which they pulled up the creditcard receipts showing all the shopping sprees she was doing with Jackson's money during the "kidnapping". At one point they point out, "How could you be kidnapped if you were shopping at Nordstroms, Tiffanys... here's a receipt for a body wax". The woman snapped back , "IT WASN'T A BODY WAX!!! IT WAS A LEG WAX!! HE'S LYING TO YOU!!!" .... Total shitshow. Read up on it. It's was fucked. You can read most of this on wiki: http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Trial_of_Michael_Jackson
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>>61655169
That 2005 Trial doesn't happen without the 1993 situation. It was the same DA (Tom Sneddon) who tried to get Jackson in 1993 that was pushing for the 2005 thing. It was only mildly plausible, because of the 1993 thing. They tried to find other boys to step forward (out of the thousands who Jackson had been in contact with over the years) and nobody stepped forward. They had a former body guard (who had sold his story to National Enquirer and had previously been arrested for armed robbery) claim he saw Jackson blowing Macauley Culkin in a shower... they brought Culkin up there to respond and he's like, "WUT?" ... As one journalist put it:

>"the trial featured perhaps the most compromised collection of prosecution witnesses ever assembled in an American criminal case...the chief drama of the trial quickly turned into a race to see if the DA could manage to put all of his witnesses on the stand without getting any of them removed from the courthouse in manacles.""

Nobody following that trial was surprised by the outcome.

It's some sad stuff, man. Despite this, the perception stuck. People continued to hate him and paint him as a monster. People continued to take the rumors and tabloid gossip as truth... and I think ultimately it killed him.

A short interview from 2003 with the author of that GQ article (Mary A Fischer) right after the second allegations broke: http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=UIxU3cWkqW0 ... In the interview, she points out a detail I forgot. In both the 1993 and 2003 allegations, the parents' first instinct wasn't to go to police... but to lawyer up. In both instances, they went to the same lawyer (Larry Feldman) who specializes in civil litigation. Strange behavior if you actually think your kid has been abused.
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>>61654125
Neither sold that much, nor did The Beatles.

4-600 million records each for the 3 is more probable.
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>>61655188
So with knowledge the 1993 incident was a complete set up, and his acquittal in the second, why does anyone still believe this bullshit?
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>>61650745
He still is the best & he always like pop music.
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>>61655049
kill yourself, you worthless, entry level pleb
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>>61649679
Not even close m8. Elvis is the only solo artist who could rival MJ in terms of popularity and fame. None of The Beatles on their own could even match it.
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>>61654796
Those 70s British glam rockers had mixed reception over here. Some like Elton John got huge, others like Gary Glitter never found any audience on this side of the Atlantic.

Bowie was always a comparatively niche guy in America, popular with music geeks but not with mainstream audiences.
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>>61655272
Fuck off fag, you know he's right.
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>>61652341
The sad part is this is makeup. Why the fuck did he wear such porcelain white makeup to cover his blotches? And why did he ever get rid of the fucking long curls for long straight wigs. Terrible. Thank fuck he died doing what he did best and rocking his classic hair.
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>>61655264
Because edgy memers like
>>61650121
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>>61655332
>John who was pretty much the only Beatle at the time to have made something of himself

All Things Must Pass > RAM > anything Lennon did in his shit solo "career"

The only thing John Lennon had going for him was Life with the Lions and even that is a 6/10 at best.
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>>61651600
Why the fuck was Diana a big deal. I was only a kid when she died and I didnt get it. She was a divorced princess but what the fuck did she actually do that warranted like a billion people watching her funeral?
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>>61655345
He really did look awful.
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>>61655293
Yuropoors always love that weird, feminine androgynous stuff but it doesn't appeal to us so much. Now, what Kiss did was adapt the British glam rock look by wearing a more tough guy wardrobe with leather and spikes to appeal to American sensibilities. We tend to not like cutesy things.
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>>61648062
Fuck eminem. He made a couple songs that were good for shock value, then he turned really hokey when hey started trying to be taken seriously.
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>>61655407
I'm pretty sure Paul McCartney had the most popularity/radio play/album sales of all solo Beatles.
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>>61655457
More people know Imagine than any solo Paul song.
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>>61648143
>I doubt it, his demographic is relatively tiny

I guess Eminem will always have a special place to Millenials who first learned how to use four letter words from him.
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>>61655468
>implying
Yes, because your shit, anecdotal view on the subject settles the score.

Fuck you. Kill yourself, you worthless pleb. RAM is better than anything Lennon regurgitated and that is saying a lot, since it is also a shit album.
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>>61655537
RAM isn't even a Top 5 Macca release
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>>61655049
>John who was pretty much the only Beatle at the time to have made something of himself

faul recorded at least 3 or 4 solo albums on par with what the beatles had created, by himself

john had to amass LA supergroups to make anything

at the time of his death, he had just released what was considered (and is) the worst album of his career to that point

meanwhile faul was pioneering electro and bedroom pop
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>>61655468
Ok, he had one gigantic hit while Paul and Wings had multiple hits during the 70s. As much as Paul gets derided for making sappy, sugar-coated chick music, he was the only Beatle to have any sustained solo success.
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>>61655619
>he had just released what was considered (and is) the worst album of his career to that point
That average is bogged down by the Yoko half. His part of the album was on par with most of his solo work.
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>>61655619
>john had to amass LA supergroups to make anything

Same with George except he was part of the *shudder* Traveling Wilburys.
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>>61655407
>>61655457

Paul was the pop one after Lennon's Imagine. Maybe in terms of quality, Harrison wins (ATMP), but he was underrated compared to Lennon and McCartney (as always)
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>>61655653
dude... that's true probably only in your country. In the rest of the World, Lennon's One Gigantic Hit was still bigger than anything that McCartney generated.
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>>61655049
>>61655619
Ringo's narration of Thomas and Friends is easily the magnum opus of any solo work a member of the Beatles ever did.
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>>61655962
>Paul was the pop one after Lennon's Imagine

It must be really fun to post your opinions on the discographies of artists you've never listened to?

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=tlfeyeMFiYA

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=PVBmogGl5xc
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>>61650872
I didn't even know Whitney Houston died until I read your post
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>>61655188
MJ story is sad as fuck, it's the only popstar that I truly miss.Even if you don't like his music, the guy was like the god of pop and instead of making music like My Humps or whatever, he sang stuff like Heal The World. The guy was genuine, talented as fuck.
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>>61654333
Whats ironic is that it wasnt much long after they passed that counterculture was finally no longer demonized by the media, had they passed away then they would have treated with more respect like john lennon
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>>61656116
oh yea, everyboody can choose a random song :')

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=2_9QooYDYtU

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=_vxL-kHUqaA

[spoiler] I truly wish Lennon had more poppish melodies like Oh! Yoko [/spoiler]
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