Real Talk, was the death of Michael Jackson the biggest worldwide mourning for a musician? Has anyone come close?
Like everyone else is saying, John Lennon and elvis mainly. Probably sinatra just by logic although I was extremely young so I don't remember it. To the people saying George Harrison, he was an amazing musician but let's be honest, he's the least popular of the Beatles. There's not a ton of metal heads here but lemmy hit basically every single metal head super hard. Even if you weren't super into motörhead, it fucking sucked because practically every metal band that didn't pioneer metal with motörhead was influenced by them or one of their biggest influences was influenced by lemmy.
I think MJ deserved the huge mourning. I can't really think of anyone else that does.
I doubt it. You think people in fucking Japan cared about Elvis?
No it won't lol. Blackstar won't even go diamond.
I dislike Bad's overwhelming embrace of 80s cliches, but there are a lot of fucking jams on that thing. Speed Demon. Another Part of Me. Leave Me Alone. The funk riff in Smooth Crimminal. The fact that he wrote nearly the whole album is also commendable. I think Dangerous had a lot of potential as well, and it really makes me wish there was some kind of Michael Jackson house record. Just listen to the chords in Can't Let Her Get Away.
Also, Michael is a performer first and foremost. Do you really think anyone getting radio play today can top his singing + dancing? The Weeknd can't even sing live very well standing still.
Elvis was huge in Japan. Even bigger in the Philippines.
But not quite as big in China, where I guess MJ had an advantage.
Elvis Presley's was the biggest of all time until John Lennon's topped it. Michael Jackson's was huge too but it still didn't quite compare. Kurt Cobain's is somewhere up there.
John Lennon's was too shocking to be topped.
This has potential to be by far the biggest
>literally just proved to everyone that he isn't an old irrelevant cunt, has tons of hype, then dies
Jackson, two days before he died, was an absolute fucking nobody who was the butt of billions of jokes. I literally grew up for 14 years of my life without even thinking Michael Jackson was anything other than a rapey cunt. Until he died, I had no idea anyone even unironically liked him.
Bowie has always been a legend, and is every bit as huge as Jackson in terms of popularity. This is far bigger.
>Bowie has always been a legend, and is every bit as huge as Jackson in terms of popularity. This is far bigger.
No, not even close. I'm definitely a bigger fan of Bowie, but I don't think you understand just how huge Michael Jackson was.
When Sinatra died it was big news despite him being old and senile, I remember my TV Station having a helicopter at his estate just like they did with Jackson. It signified the end of an era as him and the Rat Pack took the world by storm.
If McCartney dies after Ringo similar sentiments will be felt as there will be no Beatles left.
Think about it, I can most certainly guarantee there will never be performers as popular as Sinatra, Beatles, or Jackson were. The digital era has really scattered music tastes (which is a good thing) but at the same time there won't be a shared common love people have for one song or album.
You've gotta be joking mate. MJ was on the verge of starting a "tour" (a series of shows at the O2 Arena) that nearly grossed a billion dollars. Tickets sold out in seconds and press conferences for the shows were getting news coverage.
>Bowie has always been a legend, and is every bit as huge as Jackson in terms of popularity. This is far bigger.
not trying to be mean, but i don't think you're old enough to understand the significance michael jackson had for a lot of people. it far surpasses bowie's.
If Kanye West died within the next 30 days, his death would probably be bigger. Itd be amplified by bowie dying first and then his album coming out. Even if Bowie didn't die and he didn't have an album coming, his death alone would still be fucking huge.
We get it man, you were 15-18 when he died and didn't understand what he meant to the world outside of that one South Park episode.
You're totally, unequivocally wrong, by the way.
Michael Jackson is the third highest selling artist ever, topped only by The Beatles and Elvis Presley. Not even Bing Crosby, who was the biggest artist of the first half of the 20th century was that big.
David Bowie is huge but Michael Jackson was a goliath.
we will miss him dearly
Don't kid yourself. If Kanye died there'd be shock and conspiracy theories because it's weird when a young man dies out of nowhere. His death would be a media circus ala Kurt Cobain or 2Pac.
Kanye doesn't even have a quarter of the success Bowie had, and he's horribly alienated his fans for the last few years, only /mu/ likes Yeezus.
>Michael Jacksons was more of a shock because he was an incredibly controversial figure in the media.
of course this played a part, but it's far from the only, or even main, reason jackson's death was such a big deal. let's not forget that michael jackson was one of pop music's most recognizable figures for decades prior to the child abuse allegations. he wasn't known as the king of pop for nothing.
>He wasn't known as the king of pop for nothing
Agreed. I also think it was because he was one of the first if not the first African American males to become so incredibly famous around the world.
That doesn't mean he was washed up though. Many famous artists enjoy living the quiet life after decades of fame. He was one of them. I'd rather a celebrity live gracefully then do desperate pathetic things in an attempt to stay relevant.
Kurt Cobain's death wasn't that big of a media story compared with MJ though. Back at the time most of the coverage consisted of baby boomer talking heads running him into the ground and calling him a junkie loser and "This is what kids idolize today." (like all your 60s heroes weren't junkies).
In 20 years he'll still have the same pathetic children that hate him for seemingly no reason because they eat up anything that the media tells them to.
Beatles, Stones, Sabbath were among the biggest in their respective genres and they were all on drugs at one point or another.
>That doesn't mean he was washed up though. Many famous artists enjoy living the quiet life after decades of fame. He was one of them. I'd rather a celebrity live gracefully then do desperate pathetic things in an attempt to stay relevant.
if you actually think he was more known for his alleged sex abuse than his music, that only shows you're too young to have the necessary perspective on this. try talking about jackson with anyone other than your classmates and you'll see what i mean.
He was past his prime. Covering a song isn't desperate. Jesus Christ. Do people in here not know what washed up means? Look at any pathetic faggot on Celebrity Big Brother. That's washed up.
In terms of biggest, it probably goes something like:
Orders can be rearranged to a degree and there are definitely others, but those are some of the biggest. Lennon, Presley and Jackson probably sit on a tier of their own.
The thing about John Lennon is nobody's came as more of a shock than his.
Too bad Grace Potter can't touch Merry Clayton; nobody could touch her. The Stones have had a lot of girls performing GS live with them over the years, but you were always able to notice Mick and Keith faintly shaking their heads and knowing none of them were the little black girl who came into the studio at 2:00 AM in her robe and hair curlers.
>everyone in here saying "duur but MJ was only highly remembered because he was a controversial figure"
how fucking stupid can you get? this one man helped define DECADES of music, is one of the best selling artists of all time (and will continue to be years and years and years after his death), and had people in piss poor, 3rd world countries imitating him.
Bowie is huge, and will/should be remembered. But if you want to compare who's death is "bigger" in terms of outcry and remembrance, it's MJ's without even a second guess.
>everyone is fucking upset still
Everyone at my school was making child molestation jokes. In fact, when he died one of the first things I got was a text in the morning from a m8 telling me he's going to be melted down into plastic toys so he could continue to be played with by little kids.
I think it's just people who are too young and/or uneducated to understand just how insanely huge MJ was. All their big pop stars who they think are big today don't even come close to him.
I mean, he went to the White House and met the president for God's sake. Combine all movie stars from the last 50 years and all popular musicians/entertainers and each of them put together would not equal how huge MJ was in circa 1985.
Old dirty Chuck still tours senpai he will never die
I never knew that his death was so huge. Of course I wasn't alive back then to remember, but he was in his 70s so that shouldn't have been too out-of-left-field, was it?
not him but... that may be the problem, MJ was huge but it was due to being the influence behind mainstream acts. Bowie has also influenced tons of people but not your Madonna-esque pop artists, so it seems he wasn't as huge as MJ.
To be honest, MJ is overrated, he was huge but overrated. And Bowie, at least in my country, underrated
Certainly not the biggest but a recent one that hit me in the feels was MCA :( RIP in peace
The top 3 biggest celebrity deaths in my lifetime were, in increasing order of magnitude:
3. Michael Jackson
2. Princess Diana
1. John Lennon
Lennon's death especially was fuckhuge, because he was one of the Beatles which was still the biggest band in the world at the time even though they'd been broken up for a decade. Huge crowds gathered all over the place and they played his solo and Beatle stuff on the radio non-stop for over a WEEK. Some fans committed suicide and Yoko Ono issued a statement asking people not to take it so hard. Commemorative books and magazines came out. Albums were reissued and vanished from the stores in seconds. Double Fantasy (which was an OK album) went #1 everywhere in the world except France, Italy and Japan and won 1980 Album of the Year at the grammys which is fucking insane. If similar things happen to Black Star it wouldn't surprise me a bit. I can't even imagine what /mu/ would have been like back then.
Diana's death was also huge but the hysteria didn't seem to last quite as long as with Lennon and Jackson. Michael Jackson's death was big too but not quite as big as Lennon.
if MC Ride legitimately died, especially of a suicide, i guarantee you /mu/ would be frothing at the bit for fucking years. way more than bowie, MJ, elvis etc could ever hope to achieve in terms of posthumous fame...only on /mu/, of course
i think its because recording equipment / software is way more accessible to the average person now than it was before
there is kind of an over saturation of new music being put out
Ok but she hadn't been relevant for years and was a recluse when she died. Nirvana were just hitting their peak and were being trumpeted as the Beatles of the 90s when Kurt snuffed himself.
Overrated can still be good, which I hope is your opinion. I cannot even begin to fathom why someone would dislike Off The Wall or Thriller. Bad & Dangerous had redeeming qualities as well (see >>61649318).
There are some good songs on HIStory too ("Stranger in Moscow", "Earth Song" despite its hokeyness).
Invincible had "Unbreakable" and "You Rock My World".
Hell, even a couple of throwaways that Sony released because of their greedy Jewish ways were good, like "Love Never Felt So Good" (I prefer the original demo, with just piano chords) and "Chicago".
Yup. It's the fact that he was shot. It killed so many people's hopes of the Beatles getting back together again, which was one of the biggest subjects of speculation in those days.
MJ was the only musician death that made me cry. Before his death, I wasn't very fond of him and I always joked about him. But when he died I remembered what a big influence he had on me when I was a toddler, I used to take MJ cd's out of my mom's music shelf and play them at ridiculously loud volumes and just dance to them. The nostalgia plus MJ's sad life-story made me tear up and feel guilty when he died.
David Bowie's death will never come close to the hype surrounding MJ's death, younger people today don't even know who he is and have never even heard one of his songs. Everybody knew however who Michael Jackson was, because of his scandals, the jokes about him, or his classic songs that were still being played on the radio. MJ's fucked up family even milked his death and allowed his funeral to be streamed live all over the world and turned it into a huge show, while David Bowie's family prefers to keep it private. I remember the day after MJ's death, I was standing in a shop looking at the newspapers, and Michael was on every single one of them. Also on facebook, MJ has 70'000'000 more likes than David Bowie.
Not trying to bash Bowie in any way, his death hit me hard as well, but Bowie's death will never be as big as MJ's death.
>Diana's death was also huge but the hysteria didn't seem to last quite as long
To this day there are articles in the Sun/Guardian that comment on her death and the 'conspiracy' surrounding it.
Oversaturation and the fact that, with everything being instantly accessible, there's not that mysterious aura about artists anymore. That's kind of the thing which made them seem larger than life, which propels the idol status even more. Now you just follow their twitter account and read their everyday thoughts like they're your next door neighbor.
>and yet people still mourned like their own mother had died. Even foreigners, which always confuses me.
There were enormous crowds of people openly weeping and leaving flowers in front of the British Embassy around here in the US. So weird. I mean I liked her too but damn.
>There'll be a monumental shitstorm when the Queen dies.
I am not looking forward to that at all. No, sir.
>David Bowie's death will never come close to the hype surrounding MJ's death, younger people today don't even know who he is and have never even heard one of his songs
I can't say I've ever actually listened to a Bowie song while everyone on the fucking planet has heard Thriller at least once.
True, like I said, there are others. I meant to put Marvin Gaye in there somewhere but I forgot. He was huge news too.
Obviously. WOW's music didn't capture a generation like Kurt Cobain's did.
This. John Lennon's remains untouched for a few reasons. Unlike Elvis or MJ, John Lennon wasn't very far removed from much of his most legendary work, solo or Beatles. He was actually on the brink of a comeback of sorts, and not like the one Elvis had in the late 60s where he came back fat, sweaty, and seen largely as a relic by people whose vision wasn't clouded by 50s nostalgia. John Lennon was someone people desperately wanted to hear from again. To top it all off, John Lennon was an international icon and spokesman for world peace. All criticisms aside, that's what John Lennon was known as to millions of people, and he died in a grisly murder, which made his message that much more earnest when it happened.
It wasn't, but I understand how it seemed that way. I wasn't alive when Lennon got shot so idk. And I should've named a more remote country than Japan; the point was that MJ had an impact on pop culture in every country in the world. 3rd world street-shitters and starvers were imitating his moves. And MJ was more popular in Eastern Asia than Elvis was anyway. 750 million records sold around the world.
And Blackstar won't break records, don't kid yourself. Maybe Bowie's own records. It won't go diamond.
When MJ died I didn't give a shit, I was 15 but I was aware of his music. I still don't give a shit
But when I read that Bowie was death, man, I got depressed. I'm not even a fan of Bowie, but I feel more sympathy for his music compared to MJ
Diana had a connection to music, though - the Elton John tribute song after her death was the biggest-selling single of the entire 90's on a global basis.
What? Are you just saying you're being contrarian? You're "aware" of their music, but say you're not a fan of either artist. But there's still favoritism at play, clearly. Please listen to both of their music.
>>And Blackstar won't break records
Maybe, maybe not. Like someone said above Double Fantasy was just OK but it went number one all over the place and won a grammy. I haven't heard it in a while but I remember enough to know that shit wasn't no grammy material.
This one used to really fuck with me and still does
It really is a damn shame because he used to be a qt
Vat? Elvis was still very much relevant in the 70s. A few months before he died, the Hawaiian concert broke an all-time TV viewership record. If anything, I'd say Lennon was a lot less relevant in 1980 because he was living in NYC like a hermit.
And no, I don't think the Beatles would have gotten back together anyway because JL had moved on with his life and he also thought at 40, you couldn't still be a rock star (he laughed at the Stones and Paul McCartney for still trying it as they were pushing middle age).
If you want to call it with your meme terms. I have listened to both of them, MJ was a huge success, bigger than Bowie, but his music never got in me and, of course, I tend to prefer Bowie's music
That Hawaii concert was from a few years before he died, not a few months, and many people remember that show for how out of it he looked at times. I already acknowledged that his death, along with Lennon's and Jackson's, sits in a tier of its own in terms of worldwide mourning. John Lennon's death probably still remains the most shocking for reasons I mentioned. Like I said, John Lennon was starting a very highly anticipated comeback a few months before he died.
God damn it I've been away from the news for a couple of weeks and only found out with your post that Lemmy is also dead (and thanks to wiki how fast he passed).
Must've been the worst Christmas ever for a lot of people.
How has nobody mentioned the big man himself? Jerry Garcia's death was the first big news story of the internet age.
No, you don't understand the concept of having a singular musical icon. Presley was in an era without competition in his prime. MJ sure was at the top, but by the time he came around the music scene was divide by many successful artists. The sort of unparalleled popularity Presley held is something that could never be replicated now. The average person has entire lifetimes of music from thousands of artists at their fingertips. You just dont understand what it was like then.
>people were literally killing themselves
Just like Robin Williams, and every other celebrity suicide.
It has been proven that suicide rates spike after a celebrity suicide, so this isn't really significant.
dude you are literally talking out of your ass. you are right, technically but that doesnt count for anything. most people didnt even have record players, just radio... you really dont get it.
Not him but MJ's records were a much bigger deal than Elvis', who release something every year. Elvis had his movies, though. I don't think anybody here can really say who was bigger in their prime, unless you're literally 80 years old
>pretending like he was still relevant to you and wasn't just generally an overly eccentric gay guy
most people don't even know who he is in the grand scheme of things, there's no way most of these posts are actually genuine. Get over yourselves.
you are grossly oversimplifying. I don't know why I bother you're clearly convinced. you seriously lack the capacity to comprehend the idea of a single music icon without competition.
Huh. Yeah I was wrong. MJ wins when it comes to the sales of individual albums though. Thriller is the first album to go 30x platinum in the US. Again, I was wrong about him outselling Elvis altogether.
It's time to stop posting
People reportedly killed themselves when MJ died too. Also, I recall the news coverage of MJ's death was so long that the news were covering how long the news was covering MJ's death. That takes a different kind of special.
Nah from what ive heard hendrixs death was covered by the media as "junkie musician overdoses on heroin" and brushed aside even though thats far from the truth as the man never did heroin. There doesnt seem to have been much fan fare as there was for the other musicians that died, but in the musician circles he was honered greatly, a whole bunch of cats played at his funeral
>Not him but MJ's records were a much bigger deal than Elvis', who release something every year.
I agree with that. I think Thriller remains the highest selling album of all time, if I'm not mistaken.
>MJ wins when it comes to the sales of individual albums though.
True. It's still worth noting that in Elvis' era, singles were far more important than studio albums.
Either way, only after The Beatles, EP and MJ sold more than anybody.
Technically there's no proof of the 750 million either. Both are rough but relatively accurate estimations accumulated from recording industry associations from a ton of different countries. Still, from almost every reliable source, Elvis Presley is estimated to have sold more units (albums, singles, etc) than Michael Jackson.
>entire music world went into yeezy season
You mean the entire world called it garbage.
and laughed at him for feuding with a shoe company at this stage of his career too
and laughed that bowie 40 years past his prime released a better received album
Yes, but he was pretty universally mocked for the last decade of his life. I don't disagree that he's more relevant, but the rise of the internet probably really helped his fanbase grow, while for MJ all it really did was spawn a bunch of flash games and shit joking about him. A part of that is no doubt because MJ's music is way more poppy and straight up than bowie's, or really most anyone else for that matter.
It wasn't just one south park episode dude. It was pretty much the entire world hating on him and doing a massive 180 once it killed him. You even had shepard smith on fox news with "Wacko Jacko is at it again" segments
As a Brit I can confirm. I was gonna buy Blackstar today anyway but having heard the news this morning and eventually overcoming the shock and devastation, I rushed down the record store to grab a copy before it sold out. There was a big queue and the atmosphere was incredibly surreal in there. The cashier serving me had tears in his eyes. There's also an Aladdin Sane cover art painting on the side of a pub near my house which already has flowers laid by it. I was wearing a Ziggy t-shirt and everyone who passed me on the street and saw it looked miserable as fuck.
John Lennon's death will forever be the most shocking and memorable musical death, I can't think of a more iconic and beloved band than the Beatles and having John who was pretty much the only Beatle at the time to have made something of himself after leaving the band get murdered was just too much. I never liked MJ so I got a bit annoyed at all the media coverage but whatever. Poor Bowie, God dammit. Too young.
Needed MJ copypasta
The story is rather tragic. I do believe that had the internet existed in 1994 in it's current form, Jackson would still be alive today. Jackson was very much the victim of public perception. Yes, he was clearly an eccentric with many quirks, but the "child molestation" thing was hogwash. GQ published a non-bias article in 1994 entitled "Was Michael Jackson Framed?" that you can find all over the net. Here's one link: http://floacist.wordpress.com/2007/08/22/gq-article-was-michael-jackson-framed/ ... It's a pretty fascinating read that details exactly what happened during that first accusation. Most people haven't read it, though... because it's easier and more "interesting" (and at the time, "funnier") to imagine him as some kind of freak.
Anyone unfamiliar with what actually happened there, I'd really recommend reading it. The TL;DR: version is pretty god damn fucked up. He befriended a young boy, his mother and step-father. The biological father wanted money to produce "Robin Hood Men In Tights" so he brainwashed his son with sodium Amytal in an attempt to extort money out of Jackson... knowing full-well he wouldn't want to go through a long career-tarnishing trial. There's taped conversations between the father and step-father where the father lays out his entire plan. > “And if I go through with this, I win big-time. There’s no way I lose. I’ve checked that inside out. I will get everything I want, and they will be destroyed forever. June will lose [custody of the son]…and Michael’s career will be over.”
It's whack. Seriously... read it. FYI, the father ended up killing himself in 2009 only 5 months after Jackson died: http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Evan_Chandler
My point is, public perception in 1994 was so heavily dependent on shock media, magazine covers, radio, talk show monologues, etc. Had Reddit existed back then, we would have seen the smoking gun. People would be chatting over the details on a daily basis. It would have been very difficult for the public to remain that misinformed and warped by rumor and heresay.
But the perception stuck. And clearly it weighed heavily on Jackson... someone who had dedicated his life to helping children in need. He was clearly depressed. He turned to drugs. As we later found out, he needed to be medicated to even sleep. I can't imagine what that had to have been like..
That was the only time anyone ever accused Jackson of wrongdoing... until 11 years later in 2005, but this time it was CLEARLY bullshit and a clear attempt at extortion. Anyone following that trial was aware of how ridiculous the claims were. I'll summarize. It was right after the huge documentary "Living with Michael Jackson" that Martin Bashir did. Jackson was all over the news for the "baby dangling" incident. In the documentary, it showed that Jackson took in a young cancer patient, his mother and sister and was paying for the boy's treatment (last I heard, he's now cancer-free). He was close with the boy and the family. It made the news, because of the scene where Jackson says, "What's wrong with sharing a bed with someone you love?" in reference to the young boy. The public took it (or twisted it) to be a sexual thing... Jackson intended it as an innocent remark... hanging out late playing video games on a massive bed and someone passes out. Inappropriate? Maybe. Molestation? No.
Anyways... the mother of the boy had been in and out of mental institutions and had attempted to con money from celebrities in the past (the reason for Jay Leno and George Lopez being at the trial). She also claimed her family had been "sexually fondled" by JC Penny security after her punk kids shoplifted... she settled out of court for $152k. So anyhow, the Bashir documentary was a shitshow, people like Gloria Allred were petitioning to have Jackson's kids taken away... and Jackson's handlers told him to distance himself from the young boy and the family... so he cut them off. It was only after that, that the woman and the boy accused Jackson of misconduct. The funny part was, they literally claimed the molestation started AFTER the documentary aired. As if Jackson hung out with the kid, let them live at Neverland, passed out playing videogames, filmed a documentary admitting that it was innocent... and then when the entire world started looking at the relationship with a magnifying glass and wanted to take away Jackson's kids (and apparently the family had already been interviewed by police)... THAT's when Jackson decided to start molesting the kid. Come on... Whole thing was a crock of shit. The woman also claimed they were held hostage at Neverland... to which they pulled up the creditcard receipts showing all the shopping sprees she was doing with Jackson's money during the "kidnapping". At one point they point out, "How could you be kidnapped if you were shopping at Nordstroms, Tiffanys... here's a receipt for a body wax". The woman snapped back , "IT WASN'T A BODY WAX!!! IT WAS A LEG WAX!! HE'S LYING TO YOU!!!" .... Total shitshow. Read up on it. It's was fucked. You can read most of this on wiki: http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Trial_of_Michael_Jackson
That 2005 Trial doesn't happen without the 1993 situation. It was the same DA (Tom Sneddon) who tried to get Jackson in 1993 that was pushing for the 2005 thing. It was only mildly plausible, because of the 1993 thing. They tried to find other boys to step forward (out of the thousands who Jackson had been in contact with over the years) and nobody stepped forward. They had a former body guard (who had sold his story to National Enquirer and had previously been arrested for armed robbery) claim he saw Jackson blowing Macauley Culkin in a shower... they brought Culkin up there to respond and he's like, "WUT?" ... As one journalist put it:
>"the trial featured perhaps the most compromised collection of prosecution witnesses ever assembled in an American criminal case...the chief drama of the trial quickly turned into a race to see if the DA could manage to put all of his witnesses on the stand without getting any of them removed from the courthouse in manacles.""
Nobody following that trial was surprised by the outcome.
It's some sad stuff, man. Despite this, the perception stuck. People continued to hate him and paint him as a monster. People continued to take the rumors and tabloid gossip as truth... and I think ultimately it killed him.
A short interview from 2003 with the author of that GQ article (Mary A Fischer) right after the second allegations broke: http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=UIxU3cWkqW0 ... In the interview, she points out a detail I forgot. In both the 1993 and 2003 allegations, the parents' first instinct wasn't to go to police... but to lawyer up. In both instances, they went to the same lawyer (Larry Feldman) who specializes in civil litigation. Strange behavior if you actually think your kid has been abused.
kill yourself, you worthless, entry level pleb
Those 70s British glam rockers had mixed reception over here. Some like Elton John got huge, others like Gary Glitter never found any audience on this side of the Atlantic.
Bowie was always a comparatively niche guy in America, popular with music geeks but not with mainstream audiences.
The sad part is this is makeup. Why the fuck did he wear such porcelain white makeup to cover his blotches? And why did he ever get rid of the fucking long curls for long straight wigs. Terrible. Thank fuck he died doing what he did best and rocking his classic hair.
>John who was pretty much the only Beatle at the time to have made something of himself
All Things Must Pass > RAM > anything Lennon did in his shit solo "career"
The only thing John Lennon had going for him was Life with the Lions and even that is a 6/10 at best.
Why the fuck was Diana a big deal. I was only a kid when she died and I didnt get it. She was a divorced princess but what the fuck did she actually do that warranted like a billion people watching her funeral?
Yuropoors always love that weird, feminine androgynous stuff but it doesn't appeal to us so much. Now, what Kiss did was adapt the British glam rock look by wearing a more tough guy wardrobe with leather and spikes to appeal to American sensibilities. We tend to not like cutesy things.
Yes, because your shit, anecdotal view on the subject settles the score.
Fuck you. Kill yourself, you worthless pleb. RAM is better than anything Lennon regurgitated and that is saying a lot, since it is also a shit album.
>John who was pretty much the only Beatle at the time to have made something of himself
faul recorded at least 3 or 4 solo albums on par with what the beatles had created, by himself
john had to amass LA supergroups to make anything
at the time of his death, he had just released what was considered (and is) the worst album of his career to that point
meanwhile faul was pioneering electro and bedroom pop
Ok, he had one gigantic hit while Paul and Wings had multiple hits during the 70s. As much as Paul gets derided for making sappy, sugar-coated chick music, he was the only Beatle to have any sustained solo success.
>he had just released what was considered (and is) the worst album of his career to that point
That average is bogged down by the Yoko half. His part of the album was on par with most of his solo work.
>Paul was the pop one after Lennon's Imagine
It must be really fun to post your opinions on the discographies of artists you've never listened to?
MJ story is sad as fuck, it's the only popstar that I truly miss.Even if you don't like his music, the guy was like the god of pop and instead of making music like My Humps or whatever, he sang stuff like Heal The World. The guy was genuine, talented as fuck.
Whats ironic is that it wasnt much long after they passed that counterculture was finally no longer demonized by the media, had they passed away then they would have treated with more respect like john lennon
oh yea, everyboody can choose a random song :')
[spoiler] I truly wish Lennon had more poppish melodies like Oh! Yoko [/spoiler]