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>Post gear
>Post desired gear
>How long have you been playing?
>Fav guitars?
>Fav guitarists?
>Projects?
>Talk about and play music
>General guitar and bass discussion
Music Theory:
>http://www.justinguitar.com/
Guitar chords and inversions
>http://www.chordbook.com/guitarchords.php
String Tension Calculator (D'Addario based):
>http://hikkyz.net/misc/stringassembler/
Floyd Rose Setup Video Tutorial:
>[YouTube] Floyd Rose Setup Part 1 of 7: Introduction (embed)
Steve Vai's Ten Hour Workout
>http://www.mediafire.com/download/kzw6kjuocgicwks/Ten_Hour.pdf
Guthrie Govan's Creative Guitar 1 & 2
>http://www.mediafire.com/download/bn8803xzlrbds3b/Guitar1.rar
>http://www.mediafire.com/download/9uhtufuf3z9cx8m/Guitar2.rar
Impulse Response Pack
>http://www.mediafire.com/download/svtfxjtillrdwt8/Gods+Cab+1.3.rar
>http://www.mediafire.com/download/4n28zkjw0zgmdj9/ASEM+RECTO+V30+L2.wav (embed)
Free VST downloads (amps and effects simulators):
>http://www.vst4free.com/
ASIO drivers (essential to use VSTs while playing):
>http://www.asio4all.com/
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>Advancing Guitarist Mick Goodrick
http://www.mediafire.com/download/cvfno10fv4lf4a8
>Chord Chemistry - Ted Greene
http://www.mediafire.com/download/61n5op7eiifxztg
Others
>Mickey Baker's Jazz Guitar
http://www.mediafire.com/download/zq35xorj2iaqh22
>Modern Chord Progressions: Jazz and Classical Voicings for Guitar - Ted Greene
http://www.mediafire.com/download/oflu4wdwofhqqtb
>Jazz Guitar: Single Note Soloing Vol. 1 & 2- Ted Greene
http://www.mediafire.com/download/07o65qdh5in1nsq
http://www.mediafire.com/download/jmu86f7dj8bdxcd
>Beefhearts 10 guitar commandments
https://archive.org/post/338826/captain-beefhearts-10-commandments-of-playing-the-guitar
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My babies.
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>>61614012
That acoustic is awfully pretty.
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Posted my collection in last thread but whatever.
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First for ERG's are actually pretty cool
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The new set up. About as loud as my old amp but sounds so much better. Also now have the option to add another cabinet.
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>>61613989
Fender rumble 410
Warwick WCA410
or Gallien Krueger CX 410

Pls, senpai-tachi, I'm lost and I don't know how to get out of this mess.
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>>61613989
>missing youtube link
>shit pic
>no title
>before previous thread hits bump limit
you dun goofed senpai, delete and make it again
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shit thread
is this your first post
try again
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>>61614159
It's a bit hard to make out the amp, what is it?
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Thread question

Is G&L better than fender?
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>>61614135
Is that an SG Special?
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>>61614159
What head is this?
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>>61614227
to be honest I don't think there's a huge difference. If anyone knows any design differences, I'd like to hear it.
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>>61614215
looks like some type of ampeg
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>>61614135
what's the bass behind the ric and jazz?
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>>61614215
>>61614249
Ampeg Portaflex 500. I like it so far.
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>>61614307
looks like a thunderbird headstock
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>>61614343
>tonewoodz
I hope you're being ironic
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>>61614345
>>61614173
>>61614186
fuck off redditfags
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>>61614391
reddit doesn't even have a sage function you dumb fuck.
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>>61614418
I wouldn't know, I'm not a ledditor
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>>61614227
No, they just cater towards more modern designs. If you want a vintage feeling and sounding Strat/Tele buy a Fender. If you want something a bit more modern go with G&L.
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>>61614012
Hey, fellow Taylor owner.
Nice guitars.
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>>61614466
What do you mean by modern?
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>>61614418
redditor spotted
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>>61614461
it doesn't take a rocket scientist to be aware that most other forum sites do not have a sage function.
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>>61614418
le win so random epic xDDDD lmao dude
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I'll make a proper OP when the bread is stale enough to be at the bottom
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Anyone have any experience with one of these?
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>>61614703
No
but reminds me of a warwick nut
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>>61614722
Those are pretty cool too
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Also forgot to mention the Roland Micro Cube.
With an option for battery power and a shitload of effects, plus a pretty simple DAC with connectivity with apps on ios.
But its also pretty expensive for a small amp.
But seems pretty cool.

And also there's the Vox Mini and micro amps. They look damn good.
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>>61615137
>And also there's the Vox Mini and micro amps.
What's the point 2bh?
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>>61615193
you don't really lose fidelity, and you get to use the amp at the volumes it was made for without pissing anyone off.
>>61615137
I don't have an iPhone but what sort of stuff can you do with the app connection? If it's really cool I could make an android version.
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>>61615360
>you don't really lose fidelity, and you get to use the amp at the volumes it was made for without pissing anyone off.
Probably would just use headphones at that point
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>>61615193
portability, easy to carry, practice anywhere even in apartments that dont allow noise with or WITHOUT wearing headphones. Also play at parties, streets and outdoors without damaging your shit or getting it stolen.
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>>61615420
This is true. In that case I guess it's a matter of portability or playing with other people. I guess it'd be good for playing alongside acoustics.
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new reddit-free, properly made thread:
>>61615187
>>61615187
>>61615187
newfags should refrain from making general OPs
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As someone who doesn't own pedals, what brands should I be looking into?
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>>61615360
here you go my mans

www.roland.com/products/micro_cube_gx/
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>>61615581
If you love babby jesus buy Strymon
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>>61614161
Ok so before I could reply to your post saying that the Fender was $50 more in the other thread.

Personally I don't like G&K stuff at all, a lot of their sound pretty rubbish compared to their competitors and their cabs are nothing special.

Speakers in the Fender are really good though. Used a couple myself and they're almost on par with the Eden/Mesa cabs I've used.
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Other thread is kill, guy who asked for the upright sound on bass: Forget it, you can't just mimic the sound of an upright bass on your bass guitar. Get an electric upright if you really want that (and prepare to suck on it as well).
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Great work deleting the properly made thread mods, reddit will be always thankful for your service
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>>61615581
If you play a lot of shows and aren't really concerned about the quality of your tone (but the quality of your gear instead) get BOSS stuff.
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>>61616053
it's okay man, we understand. feel better soon
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>>61616044
Thanks for the reply mate, other choices would be:
Eden EX410SC (430 bucks)
Eden EX410 (645 bucks, ouch)
or something like a Tecamp L410 (698)

But that is starting to get really expensive.
Where I'll be ordering from: http://www.thomann.de/gb/4x10_bass_cabinets.html?oa=pra
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There is a Fender Bullet Bass for sale near me, the guy wants $650, but I think he may go down to $550. It's from 1979-'81, American made, stock hardware. Supposedly they're the same pickups as what the Mustang had. Anyone have experience with this bass? Is it worth it? I'm interested in defreting it, after I practice the job on my basic Squire.
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>>61614703
You wanted to try a heavier gauge string set yeah?
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>>61616141
Way I'd go man.
If you really wanna save money for a cab that will be fine for live go with the Fender

If you wanna spend as much as you can for a decent cab for recording/live go with the Eden.
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>>61616044
>>61616141
i dunno if you got my reply in the other thread but im gonna second not being too into most GK stuff. the eminences in the fender are pretty good.
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>>61616141
just curious, is ampeg not widely available where you are?
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>>61616194
Wait, so which one would you prefer? The Fender or the Eden EX410SC? The Fender ist still in my price range I just heard that the build quality on it can be iffy, also do you have experienec with a 5-string and said cabinets?
>>61616225
Okay, thanks for the info.
>>61616243
Yes they are, but they're also pretty damn expensive. Ampeg PF-410HLF for 650 (and apparently it's not amazing in terms of low-end) and the SVT-410HLF for 750.
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>>61616285
As I said, if I was looking to save a bit of money the Fender, but if you can stretch the budget definitely go with the Eden man, great cabs.

Yeah my bassist used his Warwick 5-string through one and a Mesa 1x15 for recording and it sounded beastly, way better than his Hartke cabs. I've used the Fenders with my 6 string bass before and they're alright but not on the same level as an Eden or Mesa.
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>>61616048
more on upright from an electric:
https://youtu.be/-6xX6FE7SsQ
Also a rob Allen mb-2 is pretty dead on for upright tone, though it's an acoustic-electric.
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>>61616346
Also I was referring to the EX410 sorry, that's the one I've used and know sounds good.
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>>61616285
>SVT-410HLF for 750.
ah thats too bad. i really like that cab
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>>61614012
I definitely prefer teardrop burst. Sorry anon.

>>61614139
Sevens are extremely useful for tracking. I do 90% of my recording with one. Live is almost always a six though.
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>>61616346
But the EX410SC is cheaper than the Fender, or is the SC not comparable to the other Eden cabs? Again, confused. I'm not sure if I can just go by brand here....
>>61616377
oh okay, thanks. I'll keep it in mind then.
>>61616393
That's so damn expensive though, I could afford it but, eh. That's a lot of money at the end of the day. Also, from a bit of research it seems like TecAmp has a good reputation here, and they're made in Germany which I usually appreciate. But, again, 700 bucks.
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>>61616434
no i get that. if you want to save money cabs are a safe thing to buy used.
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>>61614159
i almost forgot to say. i tried out 3.0mm big stubby picks and love them. cant believe how long ive gone using such thin picks
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>>61616493
I know, but the shitty part is that the used market here is dead. I could be waiting months until a decent offer might pop up that is somewhere closeby, literally the only decent cabinet on the used market in my city right now would be a Yamaha 410 .
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>>61616498
for both guitar and bass? I've had reservations about big picks on guitar. Don't you have trouble alternate picking?
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Thinking about either getting a hollow body or a five string jazz bass next..
>>61616578
Why must you rub your beautiful Model T's/Marshalls/walls of cabinets in my face all the time?
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>>61613989
>shittest OP in the last 2 years
I bet the synthfag did this to make us guitarists look like a bunch of dumb fucks. Even SGbro did better OPs than this.
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>>61616602
not at all. its actually easier for me since the pick is shaped with more of a slope at the end so it just slips off rather than getting stuck.
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>>61616652
>SGbro
>not SGcuck
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>>61616649
:)
none of that is marshall though.
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>>61613989
a fender frontman 10
or a sunn mustang 10
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>tfw learning
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I really wish I knew how to set up basses for drop tuning.

:(
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>>61616786
put on thicker strings. adjust truss rod if the neck is bowed. possible move saddle if the intonation is off now. its really simple
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>>61616807
this is literally all it is. don't be intimidated All you need is the right size allen wrenches and maybe a screwdriver
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>>61616807
>>61616856
Gotta file down the nut a bit to lay on thicker strings but thats the least of my worries. Tried messing with truss rod with first bass and destroyed that thing pretty much. Idk wtf the saddles even do but I know to adjust them.

Been playing 5 years with the same set up its the only reason I go to guitar center to play something different.
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I just acquired a 1967 Fender Bassman with new tubes in pristine condition for $600. How did I do?
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>>61616905
only thing with the truss rod is you have to go slow and without string tension. 1/4 to 1/2 turn at a time and there should be zero creaking sounds
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>>61616940
probably pretty good deal http://www.chicagomusicexchange.com/products/fender-bassman-50w-amp-head-1964-s469
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>>61616346
I'm actually leaning more towards the Fender now that I think about it, all the problems I've heard about were in terms of the glued on cover coming loose (who cares, honestly) and the speakers are tried and tested at that point. I can also step it up with a 210 or another 410 if I ever need to or want to. The only question that remains for me, how well would a single rumble 410 handle a 5-string?
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>>61616943
I messed around with the trussrod a LOT on my first bass, never warped the neck or "ruined" it in any way even though it was really cheap.
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>>61616905
You don't need to file down the nut, maybe just widen the slots. Think or it like a zero fret, or using a capo. The strings just need to follow the radius.
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>>61616905
the saddles adjust string height and intonation
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Is there anything more beautiful than all black Gibson archtops? got damn
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>>61616992
this. i have never damaged any of my guitars or basses doing this
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>>61617011
needs wood tail piece
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>>61616943
So theres creaking when you adjust and no creak means itch gud?

>>61616997
Thats what I meant, file vertically not down. Cant I just use the thicker string itself and say sand it until its a tight fit?

>>61617009
You move em up as you down tune right?
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>>61616964
As long as you have a decent head to go with the cab it shouldn't have a problem man.

What sort of style of music do you play man? You could add a 1x15 later if you wanted depending what you play.
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>>61617011
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>>61616992
>>61617036
no, it really is kind of hard to ruin a neck/truss rod through adjustment, it just never hurts to be careful

>>61617011
it isnt black, but you get the idea
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=nU5bfFpASd8

>>61617088
>no creak means itch gud
yup
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>>61617011
yes
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>>61617112
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>>61617089
I'm currently all over the place, playing jazz, reggae and a bit of Rock on the side. I'm not a fan of a 115 under a 410, another 410 or a 210 would be my final setup probably.
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>>61617088
>You move em up as you down tune right?
you move them forward or backward so the instrument plays in tune and up and down so the strings dont buzz/personal preference
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>>61617011
What's that Les Paul you got in the background?
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>>61617129
What is this? I feel like I've seen it before. Looks good.
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>>61617011
YES
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>>61615581
There's literally 1 gorillion boutique brands that literally just clone analog pedals from the 70s with a few enhancements.
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>>61617119
Oh, totally. I'm confident that you CAN ruin a neck by messing with the trussrod in some ways, I just know that I was yound and really stupid and still didn't manage to do that somehow. I still have that bass and it is well adjusted and works just fine.
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>>61617164
just a pic I got off google. I wish I owned a black L5.
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>>61617196
its a collings.
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>>61617119
Well my first time fucking around I didnt know what I was doing. I didnt turn it softly I did full on 180 turns wondering what it would do. 2 days later I saw it on the stand and it was bowed af you could literally string that shit to a bow.

>>61617162
I see. And what is the appropriate test to ensure its good? I see people do some weird hand stretch across frets or some shit idk man desu.
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>>61617220
Ah cool I've never tried their electrics, their acoustic guitars are really nice though. Almost bought one of their 000 copies but I just ended up buying a Martin.
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>>61617216
shucks, ok.
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>>61617088
I don't know what you mean about the nut. but as long as you don't mess with the bottom of the but slots.
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>>61617234
>what is the appropriate test to ensure its good
my personal preference is to tune the 12th fret as well. If its flat, move it up. Sharp, move it back
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>>61617234
what? just tune the string then play the 12th fret and move the saddle forwards or backwards until its also in tune when the open string is in tune
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>>61617213
...I wouldn't know.
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>>61617259
I meant file the side of slots not directly file down.

>>61617260
>>61617266
I seen this done before I know what to then thanks guys.
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>>61617234
about the bridge: you should look up a complete setup video. it's hard to fully explain here
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>>61617246
i've never tried their acoustics. ive played their archtops a couple times and was blow away but i wouldn't expect anything less from a stupidly priced guitar
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>>61617141
Fair enough, yeah I don't like 1x15's that much either. Really a single 4x10 will do more than enough for those styles man and you could always add another cab anyway.
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Not many guitarists use ERG's effectively but I will say this is pretty cool.
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Wm-H2d_5FSg
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>>61617321
I'll have to sleep another night or two about it, there's no use ordering on saturday night anyway so who cares. The Warwick still seems like an interesting choice as well, from what I've read it's supposedly really nice in terms of low end and sounds "warm" rather than modern, which I kinda dig. Not a single review though and the only demo video I can find is from Warwick themselves, and I don't trust them with that obviously.
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>>61617355
I didn't even press play. I know from the Thumbnail that this is everything that's wrong with music.
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>>61617011
and just think you could have got something as beautiful, same quality, but at a better price
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>>61617366
i like my warwick bass but i never see their amps or cabs where i am. i would be really interested in trying one
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>>61617378
I thought so too til I actually watched it.
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>>61617404
don't make me puke senpai. I just had some left over butter chicken
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>>61617404
memed too hard
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>>61617408
just watched it, not as bad as I thought but still really cheesy. I guess I'm just not into the ironic youtube covers of pop songs thing,
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>>61617406
All I can find on them are their own demo videos, and I doubt that they can be trusted.
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=LWmuEZK7iIE
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>>61617450
Yeah I was dreading another fucking djent cover or something but was pleasantly surprised. At least he's thinking a ~little~ outside of the box.
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>>61617456
>turn volume to full
>then plugs bass in
yea i wouldn't trust that either

also
>the high end in that thumb tone
gross
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>>61617450
I unironically like godin archtops
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>>61617651
They're kind of quiet as fuck acoustically but sound fine plugged in, more power to you bro.
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>>61617404
>same quality
>not better
bait
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Guy is selling a new haven't-been-used squier bullet for pretty cheap. Is this the real deal?
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>>61617651
didn't mean to reply

I like gretsch as well
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>>61617685
>>61617685
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>>61617651
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>>61617698
Gretschs are great and not vomit inducing like Godins
see >>61617198
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>>61617685
Oh yeah he removes the strings for some reason
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>Fuck around with a shit ton of chords in OP's link
>Make simple pop song
How do I into an modern music /gg/?
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>>61617685
>>61617706
>>61617731
Define "pretty cheap"
Also no strings make me suspect it has problems like bad fretwork
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>>61617404
I wish they still made these
The cool cats are expensive
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>>61617708
>vomit
>27
hmmm?
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So I brought this '67 Sunn cab back to life. I want to give it a new grill cloth but it's the old brown cloth before they went to silver, and it just wouldn't feel right to remove it. Loaded it with Delta Pro 15A's, all that's left is to get new corner braces for the back side. Thought my rig was finally complete until my Sovtek started crackling and popping everytime I play a note. Maybe I'll just sell all this shit for a Model T or a Matamp
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>>61617833
I hope you didn't fuck up that orange cab.
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>>61617855
Nah because it still works fine with the sunn head. It's the first V30 cab I've owned and I'm fucking sold on those things
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>>61616053
and they still wonder why people go to cripplechan
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>>61617833
>Maybe I'll just sell all this shit for a Model T or a Matamp
or just fix it. its probably tubes or caps
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>>61616786
that wrist angle is atrocious.
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>>61618196
The tubes are new, so it's probably just caps. As much as I love a big back line, I do think I need to downsize to just a single half stack, so that's why I may sell it all and start fresh.
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>>61618196
>Matamp
nice meme, why don't just get an actual orange?
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>>61618368
i dont even know why you are quoting me on that. actual matamp oranges are crazy expensive these days.
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>>61614242
2014 SG Special
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>>61618411
Got any other pics of it?
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>>61618408
meant to quote >>61617833, my bad
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>>61618368
You know the old Orange amps were built by Matamp right?
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>>61615461
Hmmm there's like 5 or 6 different ones, what's the difference?
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>>61618368
ORMAT's are insanely hard to find, and Matamp has really got their shit together after the dumpster fire that was the early 00's. I do like the OR120s though, not so much the newer stuff.
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>>61618725
I know, why not getting a new Orange though?
>>61618740
>not so much the newer stuff.
What about Orange's newer stuff?
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>>61618831
>I know, why not getting a new Orange though?
Because they don't sound anything like a Matamp Orange, or Matamp (UK).
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>>61618845
oh fair enough
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>>61618865
The new Matamp UK stuff blows new Orange away as well. The vintage Matamp and Oranges completely blow new Orange away.
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>>61618878
how does it sound like tho?
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>>61618368
>why don't just get an actual orange
>why don't you just get a worse sounding amp
Dumbest post this thread. Seriously.

>>61618905
You've never even heard one and you're making full retard comments like that?
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Pedalboard plan for the next few weeks. Only a couple pedals missing.

Now just have to figure out if I'm going to try to actually make it out of veneered plywood or get somebody else to make it for me.

Is there any more efficient layout for cable organization than the central channel routing I'm planning on pic related?
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>>61618916
Quality contribution
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>>61618920
I can't see exactly where you're routing the ISP. Just remember a G-String gates on the loop and only uses the main input to track the dry signal.
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>>61618966
I already have the ISP running on my current PB. The only pedals missing are the Astrospurt and Magnifica Plus currently.

The G-String is gating through the loop all the gain pedals, the boost and the compressor (red lines). All modulation and the looper are out of the Decimator (blue lines).
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I didn't know Monoprice made guitar gear.
>inb4 the rondo shill starts spamming this shit too
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>>61619002
Just making sure you're using it properly. People misuse that pedal constantly. I use a different version that has two inputs and outputs and gates independently on each.
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>>61619068
Yeah, I'm aware that people misuse them all the time.

I took A LONG time reading the manual and the official ISP FAQ until I figured out exactly how it works.

It turns out that it's quite simple. The G-String II has an internal loop that gates all pedals (and/or your FX loop) that goes through it, that's where you put your noisy pedals. Then your guitar should go straight to it and on its output you put either your amp directly or any other pedal you don't want gated.

It's slightly different if you have an FX Loop but I don't, so it makes things easier.
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Sup guys. I own two guitars, an acoustic from brownsville and an epiphone les paul that I've had since I was, like, 12. I don't really plan on getting new shit since I don't play professionally or anything, just for fun, but I've noticed something that I need some clarification on—playing bar chords on the brownsville requires a much heavier press than the lp. Is this normal?
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>>61619020
oh wow they actually make guitars too. i wonder if any are decent.
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>>61619126
Acoustics usually have heavier strings.
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>>61619165
Do you know why?
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>>61619169
Put electric guitar strings on your acoustic and find out.
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>>61619123
Yeah it's dead simple when you understand it. I think a lot of people bought them thinking it was a "better" version of the standard Decimator, when realistically it's a different take on the pedal.

Like I said before, I use the version that has two gates and operates them independently. You can adjust the dyanmic filters on each too which is nice.
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>>61619224
Which version is that? Is that the tower-like one that costs almost a grand?
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i'm excited for tax season, i'll be buying a lot of guitar gear. my plans are

>2 1x15 cabinets
>Ampeg B2R amplifier
>pic related

if everything goes as expected, i should be able to afford everything. if not a new bass to fiddle with would be nice.
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>>61619239
The 1U. They do a G-String version as well, but I wanted the two independent gates.
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>>61619338
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>>61619338
isn't using noise gates on electric guitars totally unnecessary? guitars have volume knobs…
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>>61619391
You don't know what a noise gate does do you?
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>>61619391
lol
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>>61619400
it closes the signal path under a certain threshold, that's what i know. teach me.
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>>61619424
http://www.isptechnologies.com/wp-content/uploads/2012/06/Decimator-white-paper.pdf
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>>61618920
i tried to order a warped vinyl from amazon the other day and they cancelled the order on me. I was disappointed. It says they have plenty in stock.
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>>61619439
so it is a noise gate which shuts down the signal path under a certain threshold. why do you need it for guitar? it's a serious question. i understand why you would use a gate on toms on a drum set to avoid cymbal spill or on background vocals to avoid spill from the stage sound. but why for guitar?
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>>61619473
because pedals can get really noisy. and if you want 0db you need a gate. Even with a volume knob, you'll have the noise cause the pedal makes it.
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>>61619473
Guitars, pedals, amps and interface preamps have noise and people want to remove them, you dumb fuck.
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>>61619492
but you could just bypass the pedal, isn't a switcher/looper the better way to do this?
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>>61619502
to get rid of the amp noise you would have to put that gate between preamp and power amp, not in front of the amp.
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>>61619473
Feedback, hum, etc. It'll kill preamp hiss, pedal hiss, so on and so forth.

This >>61619492 and >>61619502. Can you run your volume knob from 10 to 0 during any form of staccato playing under gain?

>>61619519
So to you, turning a pedal off anytime there's any form of mute makes more sense than using a gate? Noise gates aren't straight open and close devices. They use downward expansion.

>>61619531
The gate >>61619338 can gate the front and effects loop of an amplifier.
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>>61619519
Skip to 0:40. It's really not that hard to understand. Using metal as an extreme example, but gates are useful basically anywhere gain or pedal noise is involved.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=ZZPkvAjHMhY
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>>61619546
no, if you have a big muff on max or high gain you'll still get noise with the volume all the way off.
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>>61619582
No kidding. That's why you'd use a noise gate.
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>>61619546
>staccato playing
okay, that makes sense. thanks.

be nice, guys.
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let me add to this >>61619582 run your guitar through a high gain pedal, put your guitars volume at 0. You'll still get hiss, this is because the pedal is making the noise and not the guitar. The gate eliminates the noise because it is too high in the threshold.
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>>61619615
Staccato is an extreme example. Gates are fairly smart devices and will kill noise most of the time, not just during quick muting.

Watch >>61619580
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>>61619621
This >>61619582 was posted to >>61619546 I'm the person with the rack mount noise gate.
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>>61619628
>Gates are fairly smart devices
Gates are very simple devices.
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>>61619659
The gate that started this discussion uses time vector processing on the downward expander (variable ratio), release time, and low pass filter. It's a cut above your standard open and close gate.
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>>61614159
what's the one on the left?
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Does anyone know what it's called when a song uses only major chords (not just a I-IV-V sort of thing)? It seems to happen a lot in psychedelic songs. Terrapin by Syd Barrett is a good example
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Can you use a mic, record a semi-hollow and expect it to sound similar to a acoustic guitar? Or do I need a full hollow body for it?

Or do I just need a acoustic guitar?
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>>61620388
>Or do I just need a acoustic guitar?
yes
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I'm not trying to start a debate into tonewood but, if wood doesn't matter in the instruments tone, why can't we build electric guitars out of plastic or metal?

And why does an electric guitar not sound like a electric violin, after all they are just strings and pickups right?
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>>61621639
>why can't we build electric guitars out of plastic or metal?

we can though.
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>>61621639
>why can't we build electric guitars out of plastic or metal?
This fucking guy...
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Guy with the used Walrus Audio Descent here again.
Besides the noise coming from dialing the knobs, which now I put more attention and indeed are not constant ticks as I thought, when saving a preset, it makes the same ticking noise.
To save a preset, you hold down the bypass switch, and its LED wil start blinking, until it saves.
Well, as the LED blinks, the ticks are being heard.

This is just a little dirt on the pots (and the led base I guess) that some electronics cleaner can take care of, r-right?
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>>61621711

Does it sound like an electric guitar?
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Hey, i just started playing guitar again after a 3 year hiatus, where i tried but it didn't click. Im working part time at a music shop in excenge for $ and lessons, and a place to hang out and practice that isn't my house.

I have an acoustic, and a Peavy electric. But i was wondering, what should be the first guitar i save up my own money for? Like, a good sounding, reliable, adaptable instrument, that also looks aesthetic as fuck.

$800 absolute max if its amazing, would pref around 400. Electric.
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>>61622025
squier strat or cheap fender strat if you get a staff discount
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>>61622025

PRS SE or MIM Fender. If you are willing to top up another 200, you can get a Carvin build, without the fancy finishes.
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Recently had a guitar given to me by a co worker, when starting to learn what should I be spending my practice time doing? He recommended a book called fretboard logic so I got that but is there anything else I should be doing daily? Are there any specific bad habbits/common mistakes I should consciously be avoiding?
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>>61621639
>why can't we build electric guitars out of plastic or metal?
We can even PRINT plastic guitars
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=MWa8sEgpOrM
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=9Hip2YiQCGs
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=7Oo2H-W7d6A
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>>61622011
fucked if I know
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>>61622129
posture is a big one, make sure you aren't leaning over the guitar, keep your back straight and all that
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While doing trills on high-e I have trouble with dragging the string off/outside the fretboard. I try to push down on the string harder but it's really straining my hand by doing so.

What am I doing wrong?
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>>61622129
Sit like this. Thumb on back. Keep your wrists straight.
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>>61615461

Anyone tried these? Are they legit?
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It's a bitch to triple pick when your wrist is permanently bent upwards t b h
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>>61622231
refer to the post above yours, there's even a cardboard guitar as a bonus
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Saving up for pic related or a Hagstrom Viking baritone.
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>>61622395

Great choice!
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>>61616786

People who play bass like this are faggots

Low strap + pick

You aren't black
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>>61622436
>Low strap + pick
what are you a faggot?
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>>61622410
Never actually tried a Hagstrom but they look so sexy, how is the price/quality?
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How does a electric guitar with a piezo sound through the piezo pickup?

Does it sound like a acoustic guitar plugged in? Or is it more like a bridge single coil sound?

I want to use it for strumming, basically get the nice pick attack you would get from strumming an acoustic. Basically, good treble extension which the electric doesn't have.
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>>61622510

I think they are worth the money. I've only fingered the baritone for a couple of minutes though so I don't know how the extra scale length affects the guitar.

I'm happy with my Viking. I saw someone complain about the pots somewhere but I think mine work fine and I dont feel a need to switch them out.
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sup dudes, professional guitarist here, post your guitar related questions and I will do my best!
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>>61622541
see
>>61622266
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>>61622553

Do you mean doing rapid pull offs with the high E? That happened to me because I was utilizing too much movement on my fretting hand. You should be hammering your finger on the string really hard, then flicking it off. Make sure you are not using so much force focusing on pushing the whole string off the fretboard.

It also helps if the finger that you use to barre isn't moving at all.
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>>61622473

Literally every cool bass player plays that way
>duff mckagan
>eric avery
>Jason Newstead
>twiggy

Just die
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>>61622573
Yeah. That's what I'm talking about.
But I need to pluck the string a little bit to do a proper pull off, that's what's causing me to drag the string outside.
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>>61622266
When doing your trills, concentrate on pulling the finger off downwards so as the string catches slightly on your fingertip. Take extra care to not pull the note too far while fretted to stop intonation issues (the note sounding in tune). These trills will be easier to practice on the high E as there are no strings above it, with the others you need to be concerned about muting unwanted strings from resonating. Remember to take it slow and don't persist if you feel any pain!
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>>61622601

Does this problem exist if you pull off on open strings? Like, take your middle finger and pull off whatever fret you want on the High E string rapidly. Does the string still fall out the fretboard?

If it does, then its something to do with how you are pulling off. If not, it might be because when you barred a note with your index finger, it moves along with your other finger you use for pulling off, causing the string to fall out.
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so how do you guys write song lyrics?

I'm just starting out and finding just about everything I write sounds like it came from an angsty middle schooler.
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How do you guys write songs? I usually start off writing a riff that sounds like something I'd put out there and then write the rest of the riffs in a way that'd compliment one another.
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>>61622296
>>61622244
Thanks for the tips, as far as daily practice goes what sort of thing should I be focusing on? Just memorizing chords? scales? music theory? I guess there isn't really a right answer I'm just hoping to gain some guidance.
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WHAT THE ACTUAL FUCK!

>be me
>want to try out new song.
>grab guitar, retune 1st string, snap.
>well shit
>grab another one
>retune 1st carefully, snap.

Could it be that its cold or fucking what?!
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>>61622962

Which part of the guitar is it breaking at. The bridge? The fretboard? Where.
Are you tuning it up too much cents?
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>>61622962
>grab another one
okay
just have more than one guitar
I'm not jealous or anything
It actually took me a second to realize what you meant by "another one" since the idea is so farfetched for me.
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>>61623050
Both times it broke above the nut nearly at the tuning post.. I was tuning down. One was a tune-o-matic and the other a FR

>>61623061
I have 4 and it's nothing to be jealous about. I've bought them over a pretty long period of time. Now i just wish i upgraded and maintained my first one.
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>>61623096

Wow I have no idea whats happening. Might be the temperature like you say. Or the strings are just too old.
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>>61623179
One of them has pretty old strings, the other one just a week or so, have not played much though.

Fuck everything, video games seems like a cool instrument.
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>>61622582
>Literally every cool bass player plays that way
JUST FUCK MY BACK UP SENPAI
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Hey guys. I've been playing guitar for 3/4 years now and I find that I have an acceptable level. The thing is, I can play some "technical/fast" solos very easily while I struggle with others. I think it's the shape of the scales/progression that makes me bad. I can learn to play a fast and somehow technical solo pretty fast sometime, and other times I struggle to just play a normal solo with a "normal" speed. What do you think ? Sorry for the absolute rubbish writing, I'm exhausted and can't find the energy to think clearly.
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>>61622535
Cool, thanks. Probably going to get the baritone viking since I don't have a semi-hollow yet. Might get the retroscape later on.
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>>61622683
I guess black metal is your life now.
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>>61616176
ewwww yuck i bet you have a tube screamer
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>>61623272
weird rhythms in riffs always fuck with me, maybe that's part of it?
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>>61623347
Sometimes. But I can still play some weird rythm riffs and solos. I'm thinking Metallica's Orion and some Dream Theater songs. But some solos I try to play with my mate, it just doesn't go well and kind of goes sideways. What exactly fuck with it exactly when you play ?
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>>61623320
thankx 4 the țîp
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On my second day of guitar learning. My fingers, man. Trying to get an A chord down is so hard without pressing really hard. It'll take at least a week or two until the fingers harden up, right? Justinguitar.com says not to play until I get blisters so I'm trying to be careful and take small breaks.
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>>61623343
That's not even a tube amp. Picked it up in a pawnshop for $60 bucks Hoping to get a tube amp soon though
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>>61615461
>Also play at parties, streets and outdoors
Amplugs don't have speakers. You need headphones or a line out to hear anything from them.
>>61622300
Yes, better than getting a home practice amp and more convenient. If you get one, make sure you get an Amplug 2, they have foldable jacks, extra FX and an auto-shutdown to save battery life.
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>>61623456
Dont just straight up only do one chord .. Sure chords are great but just fiddle around with the instrument play with it try individual frets trying making a rythym any noises just experiment with the damn thing before going straight to the books
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>>61623383
No problem brvh.
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>being in a pop punk band
Please tell me none of you do this.
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>>61623458
You don't need a tube amp to own a tubescreamer you knob.
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>>61623563
I don't even really know what pop punk is. Rise against?
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This just popped up on my FB feed

>Australian baggage handlers
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>>61623563
Nope, but I wanna play some pop punk songs on stage with a bassist friend. All in good fun.
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>>61623565
Ah I see. Don't own any pedals other than a wah
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>>61623578
Rise Against is just punk/Alternative. Pop Punk is more like sum41 and all the other mindless bands. Still quite fun to play tho.
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>>61623481
B-but muh covers

I have plonked for a bit on my own and I get what you mean but I find chord practice fun. I just wanted to whine about my fingers.
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>>61623578
>I don't even really know what pop punk is
It's "punk" sounding music with no real substance or meaning, hence making it more accessible.

>>61623592
So long as you aren't a pop punk act, it's fine.
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>>61623464

I already have a real amp though. But I think this might be nice for midnight playing when everyone else is sleeping.

Thanks anon!
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>>61623589
Woooow. I can feel the tears behind the camera...
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>>61623625
No problem, I'd go for a Classic Rock one.
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>>61623589
>neck isn't broken
glue that shit back together and you have a one of a kind guitar.
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>>61623589
>ovation
screwed
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>>61623578
Rise Against define themselves as melodic punk. I would guess greenday and offspring are examples of pop-punk?
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>>61623789
Yeah, post-Warning Green Day is pop-punk.
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>>61623789
>offspring are examples of pop-punk
Thems fightin' words
Offspring aren't pop
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>>61623887
>Offspring aren't pop
You're right. They're pop-punk.
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>>61623887
I mean late offspring like post americana
I'm sorry
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>>61623708
It actually looks like the bracing is still holding tension on the strings even if the top is fucked

>>61623640
At least this time it happened to someone with a bit of a name, so they might actually do something about it.
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>>61623589
dat relic job doe
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>>61624068

Good thing they destroyed such an inferior instrument as a keyboard. :^)
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>>61624068
>put instrument in a flight case
>still gets demolished

hard cases are a maymay
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>>61624111
nice trips.

The more secure the case, the more satisfaction in fucking it up, I guess.
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reminder that John Birch custom instruments are amongst the most incredible guitars ever made
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>>61624111
Hard cases protect the instrument from minor drops from waist level, not from idiot baggage handlers throwing it to the concrete from an airplane.
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So how much are used line 6 helix going for now?
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>>61624730
>line 6
For too much. If they're not paying you to keep it, you're getting ripped off
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>>61624068
bwahahah button engager btfo
I bet syntfag feels intimidated as fuck, kek
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What's the best virtual guitar builder? I'm using Frank Montag's builder
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>>61624730
There aren't any, wait a year.
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>>61624907
CAD software/CorelDraw c:
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>>61623994
>At least this time it happened to someone with a bit of a name,
who?
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>>61624972
C^:
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>>61624730
There really aren't any used yet man....they haven't even been out on the market for 6 months and they're sold out.

Considering you can get a mint used Axe-Fx II for the same price though I think it's obvious which is the better deal.
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>>61624972
>CorelDraw
>not patrician Adobe Illustrator masterrace or the FOSS Inkscape
I remember when I was a plebeian like you
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>>61624972
John English.

Australian dadrocker and actor
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>>61625048
Meant to quote >>61624959
I suck on mobile
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any tips on strained hands?
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>>61625004
he's thinking of shitting in some poor girls mouth
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>>61625110
>anime
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>>61625215
>>61625215
>>61625215
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>>61625198
>strained hands
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>>61625179
more like how to establish more meth labs
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>>61625110
Stop squeezing so hard.

try to use as little pressure as possible and still getting the notes to sound
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>>61625179


more like chuck a dingleberry in my mouth
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>>61625048
And don't forget to buy a new Mac Pro, tool
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>>61625239
its fine on my rg350 but the intonation sux. on my explorer the neck is fat as f.
so, what do about straned hands? i've tried doing yoga hand exercise to relieve the tension before and after i play but i can feel a fatigue after half an hour or so when my left hand is strained
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>>61625285

There is tension somewhere in your body, maybe your arm, wrist or shoulder that is affecting your left hand.

I find with my students, lifting the shoulder is a real common one
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>>61624730
This >>61625023 Literally three times the DSP power for the same money.
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>>61622011

It sounds like whatever amp you play it through.
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>>61625332
tnx life saver, shoulder isn't what i'd call a part of the playing, but on strains.
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>>61614135
wow
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>>61617198
i held a white falcon once it was in our rehersal room, there was also a matchless full stack. dam senpai
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>>61625332
https://soundcloud.com/dew1134/7a-1
this really bust my hand
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>>61624021
kek
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>>61619941

the one on the left is one of those Rondo Music guitars.
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>>61622395

more switches for more bitches!
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>>61623563
i do, and have a lot of fun with it.
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>>61625285
Yoga ain't gonna help you.
You have to ride the lightning.
Every time you train your hands and play longer amounts each time, You are increasing hand stamina. It' a gradual process.
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