Tom Petty is twice the artist Bruce is but gets half the appreciation. The two are contemporaries who started their careers at about the same time, but Petty was still making good songs into the 2000s while Springsteen had tapped himself out creatively by the late 80s.
>>61596906 If you want to nitpick, most of Springsteen's big hits aren't political songs anyway, they're Chuck Berry rockers about cars, girls, and teen angst. I agree that him and U2 used their superstar status as a platform for politics, but it wasn't what made them big.
Vehemently disagree. Tom Petty is the king of sing-songy stoner nursery rhymes and was partly responsible for the horrible cancer that was the Travelling Wilburys. I say keep his American Girl and Bruce's Thunder Road, then shoot all the rest of their master tapes into the sun.
The best way to judge an artist's relevance is by how many subsequent generations of artists cited them as an influence. For example, Springsteen's primary influences were Chuck Berry, Bob Dylan, and Roy Orbison. Yet I can't name an artist of any note who says that Springsteen was an influence on them.
Also like someone else said, Bruce hasn't done squat as a recording artist since Tunnel of Love. His liberal soapboxing is practically necessary to keep him in the public eye.
When Tom Petty plays a four hour show, you'll be left disappointed that it ended before he had a chance to go through his hits. When Bruce Springsteen plays a two hour show, you'll be wanting your money back after he burns through a setlist of shitty covers and BITUSA.
I recently rewatched The Who - Live at the Isle of Wight and lemme tell you, that concert absolutely annihilates anything the fake farmer has ever done in his career. Ditto The Who at Woodstock and the Shepperton Sound Recordings.
The Who were like a comet crashing into the Earth circa 1971. One and a half hours of them would leave your eyeballs blasted into the back of your skull. Three hours of Springchicken would put you to sleep.
Here's how you can tell The Who (applies to any great band) were the real deal - they did ridiculous stuff, stuff that shouldn't have worked at all, but it did. What else can you say about a drummer who deliberately refuses to keep time? Or a rhythm section that plays along to the guitarist instead of vice versa. Yet they did all of that.
I think the works that bookend Born in the USA (Nebraska and Tunnel of Love) are worthy albums. Also Greetings From Ashbury Park was an innovative album that sounded like nothing else out in 1973. But other than that, Springsteen is hella overrated.
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Aside from his feelsy songs (some of the best there are in rock), he also has plenty of good-time fun cars-and-girls rockers. It's fine if you don't like his politics, but that doesn't take away from his talent. For over 30 years he has been doing it better than anyone else. Have any of you listened to The Rising? That album captures the horror and anguish of 9/11 and the slow recovery from it. As for the length of his shows I can't remember Bruce and the band ever doing a 2 hour show. He gives his all when performing. How many other performers do you know can still give regular 4-hour concerts and be rocking tight jeans in their 60s?
Besides, all the hype about him being the next Dylan was advertising glop put out by the record label. Bruce himself never made those claims.
>>61597640 I forgot about The Rising. Yeah, that one's pretty good. And I've listened to all his 1973-86 albums and know them like the back of my hand.
I would say his first two records Greetings from Ashbury Park and The Wild, The Innocent and the E Street Shuffle, and Nebraska were the three best. Those are great records. Tunnel of Love and Darkness at the Edge of Town were not bad. Born in the USA and The River were listenable. And I am sorry but Born to Run sucks. That whole record sucks. But that is it. Forty years of work and 3-4 really good records. That's called being overrated.
Also his skills as a lyricist are vastly overrated. Everyone's a broken-down failure and a bum in his songs. I hate how he portrays working class people. The moment you lose a job, your life is totally over. And that doesn't even get into his songs like The River about losers who peak in high school. That really rustles my jimmies.
I like Springsteen enough but don't consider myself a big fan. Still, I respect him as a musician and a songwriter and think he brings a rawness most artists don't - certainly it's a disservice to compare him to Tom Petty (a decent songwriter in his own right, but the complete opposite of Springsteen aesthetically). Springsteen's populist stridency can get overbearing, but Billy Bragg's one of my favorites too, and I can distinguish his talent as a songwriter from his sloganeering.
>>61597718 It does a disservice to Petty to compare him to Springsteen. Petty is a much better songwriter. Springsteen never wrote a song that was catchy or had a decent pop sensibility. Born to Run has the worst guitar hook ever put to vinyl.
>>61597718 They are different songwriters with different styles and aesthetics, so stop comparing one to the other. I'm a power pop fan and find Tom Petty extremely boring although I respect his grasp of writing consistently catchy melodies.
Bruce was great at one time. If you saw live footage of him in 1975, he was a god of rock. But somehow, you just can't sing Born To Run when you're in your 60s. At least when 70 year old Mick Jagger sings about being frustrated that he can't get any nookie, he can still make it work. :^)
I used to love the guy but he hasn't made any good songs in forever and there would be no reason to still see him outside of nostalgia and fuck, I'm not paying $100 a ticket for that.
Nostalgia is a funny thing, though. It takes you back to a time when you were something you are not now. I wince when I think of all the teenage girls who'll listen to Justin Bieber tunes when they're 40.
Bruce joins the pro-war entertainment/celebrity crowd with his support for Obama 2012. He's slightly bummed out about Obama's fascist corporatism, but ignores Obama's deadly warmongering interventionism as if it didn't exist.
That's enough to make "The Boss" completely irrelevant even more than the banality of his music (and I'm not denying that he works hard at his concerts).
>>61597452 >>61598281 Sting totally quit pop music altogether though; he's been dabbling in Broadway tunes because he said "Nobody wants to see a guy in his 60s dance around on MTV in tight pants. I need new ways to express myself."
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