This album is creepy as fuck holy shit. >Gorazde - The Catechism >somewhat Avant-Garde Stoner Doom It's like the album a hippie turned serial killer would make. Literally lyrics talking about killing people over both tonal and completely atonal rifs. I think the worst part about it is that it's not that heavy, so like you're forced to hear every single thing going on, rather than being drowned out in the noise. The vocals are really fucking unnerving too. Cool and creepy shit. https://gorazde.bandcamp.com/
>>61594082 >Paganini-esque technical guitarwork Nah it's not just Paganini. Basically any old style composer will be neoclassical. The leadwork just needs to have tonality that's in the 12 western scales. IIRC, I think most popular music use pentatonic scales.
>>61594654 yeah my biggest problem with them musically is that they're going for that occult black/death feeling but the pristine NukeBlast production destroys the mysterious/esoteric vibe that aesthetic is all about.
or maybe i'm misinterpreting behemoth's aesthetic goals, i mean their music videos have the aesthetic of later Dimmu
>>61594514 Well I mean Malmsteen doesn't deserve all the credit. Plenty of other 80s guys made that style popular too. Really the only requirements for neoclassical metal is to play a bunch of technical leads based around the 12 scales. It's not specific to Paganini, and you can hear bands in this style rip off of other composers all the time. Plus, emphasis on virtuosity is also pretty normal in classical music (basically everyone writes a concerto).
>>61594800 I'm not a fan of the vocal effects, but honestly this isn't bad at all. While we're posting weeb dance metal, the obvious choice here is Gacharic Spin. https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=BDFD2WopIjY
>>61594886 Wintersun is horrible though. If Jari focused on fast melodeath with actual riffs and great solos, they'd be a pretty good band. But most of their albums are bloated with mindnumbingly dumb midpaced shit.
>>61594886 i explained my dislike for behemoth already. as for gojira? they have ok grooves but feel a bit shallow and lacking in atmosphere to me ;s and wintersun? well, time I is just bombastic movie score garbage. the s/t is, well, i can't evaluate it since jari is a hack and a con man and that clouds my perception of his work, but parts of it feel shoddy and the songwriting drags like fuck, doesn't help that the songs get progressively longer
>>61594926 I don't want to say I only enjoy the fast songs only, because the slow songs on s/t are great. Time I is trash though and as someone that loves the s/t and Ensiferum's first 2 albums and that BM project Jari worked on I can admit it is hot garbage
>>61595085 You can say you don't like an album. But saying a band is bad when they have released numerous critically acclaimed albums, at a certain point you can think they are bad all you want but you have to admit they have value to others. Behemoth and Gojira easily meet this criteria, Wintersun has released 1 top tier album and one bomb
>>61595128 light bringer is one of my favorite power/prog bands, their musicianship is almost unrivaled in the genre. like, angra are probably better overall (vocals aside, never liked any of angra's vocalists) but light bringer's bassist is just unreal
>you can think they are bad all you want but you have to admit they have value to others.
This is how everyone should think at all times. It receiving populist acclaim shouldn't affect this measurement in the slightest >Appealing to popularity and album sales in a global sense People generally are stupid and don't have interesting taste in music, nor good philosophy. One persons sense of good might be completely irrelevant or alien to my own sensibilities.
>>61595331 >Why do you tell people you dislike bands? Because its generally accepted to shill and fling basic opinions around and at posters, since most of any musical discussion on /mu/ are basically waifu-fagging and meme-ridden bandwagons?
>>61595331 sorry it's hard to disabuse myself of that mindset
i'll rec stuff that i think is a good alternative though
Behemoth -> Mitochondrion, Lecherous Nocturne, Hate Eternal Gojira -> The Ocean, Nero di Marte, Intronaut Wintersun -> Xanthochroid, Bal-Sagoth, Persefone Cattle Decap -> Circle of Dead Children, Cephalic Carnage, Animals Killing People, A Million Dead Birds Laughing The Faceless -> Gorod, Chryseis, Inanimate Existence, Extol, Serdce, Anata
>>61595428 that's the fucking blind guardian vocalist guesting on the opening verses if you don't like hansi i don't see why you'd listen to power metal
>>61595358 i think disagreement about taste helps give people perspective. i mean, people come from very different mindsets and perceive music differently, so disagreements in taste can be very productive opportunities provided both parties can explain their mindsets
>>61595458 not quite top 10 for me, but top 10 power metal certainly. and i havent heard the new octaviagrace ;_; i love the bass solo in Dramatic Quiet tho
>>61595507 necrophagist don't groove like gorod do and don't have the fusion elements. well, i guess Process of a New Decline is necrophagist-core but i've never gotten the widdly neoclassicism from their other work
>Sunrise Black - Omnia pro Patria (2013) >Polish extreme neoclassical metal decent stuff, has growls and clean vocals and a more interesting sound than i expected wanky songwriting but the overall album pacing is very good they refer to themselves as "extreme coldwave metal" which isn't really accurate at all
>>61595548 >i havent heard the new octaviagrace ;_; It's more or less a continuation of the same style (no surprise this time). I'd say it's slightly more technical this time, and I gained a deeper appreciation for Reanne (the keyboard guy). He really adds a lot. The main draw for me, of course, is the interplay between Yosuke and Hanako in the jpop/prog/power, and it certainly delivers on that front.
>>61595657 yeah it's more technically impressive i agree, i'm bummed that i don't hear anything as pretty on アザーブルー as the main melody of Akane or the keyboard line in Lost Moratorium though. You know, that very graceful, glittery sense of melody that Tears of Tragedy's keys have.
>>61595797 Over-rated >but muh Egyptian scales and aesthetics Yeah, that's Nile's coolest bit, they pretty much sacrifice any kind of actual, genuine eastern vibes and aesthetics due to their obsession with having a brutal sound. Heck, even the melodies themselves become boring to my ears with the constant shredding
They are band which I want to like, have really tried to get into, but simply aren't doing what I wish they would do.
Guys i caught a mouse with a sticky trap and I tried to kill it with a piece of wood, i missed its head and flattened his stomach. I freaked and quickly mashed its head a couple times as fast as I could. I feel fucking horrible now, metal for this feel?
>Landguard - Eden of A Parallel Dimension >Italian power/prog that really doesn't fit with the modern Italian PM sound. Closest thing I could compare it to is a way, way proggier version of Secret Sphere's debut, but the atmosphere is less happy and almost Adramelch-esque. >https://mega.nz/#!E9oWDRYR!2XD4ZfZ4LkucGKH25JsPxZe9_KgXdmEvbn8l1yaMIw4
No links on YT. >
>>61595741 your posting is pretty distinctive. like, in a lovable way
>>61595738 Yeah, there's unfortunately not quite as pretty as Lost Moratorium imo, but the third track, 追想列車, is pretty ridiculous. I haven't wrapped my head around that one yet either; easily the most technical thing they've done.
>>61595922 >Hope you realize the music isn't that special either In comparison to other Tech Death? I mean, you can compare then to stuff like Beyond Creation, or Scale The Summit if you want to stretch it, but yeah, that's just you. My mind is a orgy of colors whenever I put on Sapphire.
>>61595917 well i trust their melody-writing ability (if not their ability to follow through and develop the melody) so i'll hold out hope they can write stuff on their full-length that makes me as giddily happy as the intro of Akane.
also, is the new Roman So Words album something i'd be into? I've been the teeniest bit reticent about doujin power since i got massively disappointed by Marchen Station - well maybe disappointed isnt the right word but yeah
>>61595981 It actually does give me a bit of an ear-ache sometimes too, but to be honest, I've gotten conditioned to abusing my ears with loud volumes... So if I just wanna hear really loud, pretty technical stuff, the brickwalled vices fade away. It's only when I try to listen to it at a softer volume that it becomes irritating.
>>61595981 you're talking to a guy who likes Colored Sands' production job and has gotten into multiple arguments with me where he seemingly doesn't comprehend how I could find it bad, so yeah. It's funny how subjective peoples' preferences are!
>>61595949 >it's tempting for me to download obscure albums just because the cover makes it seem like the album will be weird in a way i like senpai it normally is. If it's weird, go for it, it's probably good. Or it'll be hilariously awful, both which are worth the download.
Whenever I turn the volume up, this just isn't a problem for me. I can see someone's point about it maybe not sounding the best when played at softer volumes, but desu i haven't listened to it for a while, so I wouldn't know. It's very well mixed for an album that more or less has DsO level layering at times. But what do I know, I'm not an audio engineer. I can just pick out everything fine when i listen to it.
Trying to get into more Black Metal and these are some of my favs so far. Any reccs? I really like the Burzum and Peste Noire albums because of the lo-fi atmosphere and how legitimately pained their screams sound
>>61596183 oooooooooooooohhhhh ok cause the other day I typed t b h and it showed up as desu in my post and I figured this site had just subconsciously turned me into a weaboo and it was finally time for me to kill myself
>>61596237 It's weird that I'm actually getting into the idea of listening to metal at less extreme volumes so I can hear a more balanced mix of the instruments, instead of just the guitar blaring in my ear. None of my sentiments have any logical continuity to one another. I'm a talking music-theory joke which thinks episodically.
>>61596286 I used to be edgy faglord and blast metal with the windows rolled down but yea now it's pretty quiet to hear shit. Inquisition is my favorite band but for some reason after hearing only this album my ears ring even at moderate volume. Shit sucks.
>>61596139 I just spent the last several hours pouring through the 'Surreal and unusual extreme metal' list. It is a treasure. You've done a great service to many obscure artists and the people who seek unique musical expressions by compiling this. I will say thank you and now return to ignoring your tripfaggotous vanity.
>>61597644 It's just a username that i like using, i think the fact people here are being so rude towards someone just because he likes using a username is absolutely ridiculous.
The fact i keep using this username, is because i really like having a username and because i have the full rights and freedom of choice to have a username. it is not my fault that people in this site are often being immature and ridiculous over someone who merely has a username.
Anon, being nice is easy. and not only that it's easy, it's better for you and better for everyone - everyone are going to benefit from you being nice. just try it ~
Could somebody recommend me any albums that are pretty much all like this? https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=khTw53g5Xmk Basically something with similar vocals, fast, catchy chorus with a nice climax. I don't care about lyrics at the moment. Thanks in advance, even if nobody posts anything.
>>61597744 you're missing the point it's not about anyone having a name i'm fine with dmshareguy and emotive it's about you specifically being an annoying person with nothing of value to contribute, and yet still thinking that your posts somehow warrant using a name
>>61597759 This song is amazing.I think i have heard only Reign In Blood by slayer, i think i should change that
>>61597793 If you think i'm so annoying, then you should want me to keep this username, because it will be easier for you to filter me ~ you have the full rights to filter me if you want to, no one forces you to read my posts. also, if you think i'm annoying, that's just your subjective opinion. ive seen alot of people in here who loved me and protected me.
Also, please look in the archive for my posts, you will see that my posts are contributional and music related, and not only that i contribute music related content by myself, i also encourage others who make off-topic posts to start posting on topic.
Finally, the choice of having a username or not is completely unrelated to all of this. 4chan has the option to have a username, if i want to use it, im going to use it. that's all there is to it.
>>61597860 Not everyone know this album anon. your assumption is wrong.
But regardless of that, you want me to recommend something more obscure? here, try pic related
>>61597926 Suicide is not reasonable. The very fact we get to live at all is absolutely amazing - the fact i can see things, hear things, enjoy art, experience beauty, experience anything at all - the fact all of this has happened is absolutely incredible, and i think people should appreciate life more and realize how infinitely superior they are to the other option.
>>61597953 The fact some people made wrong choices does not mean they are "too weak to live", that is an horrible sentiment.
>>61597995 killing yourself because of a wrong choice is weakness. You can almost ALWAYS change a thing. The only reasons that justify suicide are being bored of life, being terminally ill, or stuck in a place you can never hope to escape from.
>>61597926 I think that the nature of living beings is life, therefore death as an absence and opposite of life cannot be as good as life for a living being and, obviously, is worse. Living being should naturally fight things which harm life.
>>61598045 You do not know the circumstances those people have experienced in their life that lead to them committing such an act. calling them "weak" is just unfair, and as i said earlier, a terrible sentiment.
What should be said, instead of calling them the way you called them, is to encourage them to see the beauty of life and be there for them to support them and help them make the right choice ~
And about the "reasons to suicide" you gave - Being "bored of life" is a TERRIBLE reason to commit such a thing, and is just incredibly silly. if someone is bored, then he should start and look for what interests him, that is the obvious and logical thing he should do. about the second thing you claimed, well, if someone is terminally ill and suffers incredible pain from his illness, and he will die soon aniway, i guess his choice would have been more understandable but it's still a choice i wouldn't be making. i would rather live and suffer then just die, because even when you suffer, little things like seeing a person you love or even watching another beautiful dawn or hearing another song, as well as many other things, are things that i would be willing to endure any pain in order to experience. even the fact i would still have been capable of thinking - that would have been enough to keep me willing to stay alive. also, there were cases where people have been terminally ill and managed to somehow survive against all expectations, that's another thing you should consider. everything i said to the second thing you said also applies to the third thing - the very basic things life provide you are enough to make them infinitely superior to death, and also things CAN get better even in situations where it seems they won't.
Any metalhead who insults new metal genres such as deathcore, brutal death metal, deathgrind, goregrind, or any other.
Nigga, fuck Black Sabbath. Go fuck yourself, motherfucker. The old metal is great and amazing and all that, and if you got to know any fans of truly extreme and ridiculous metal and hardcore fusions, you would understand that we all appreciate what traditional genres of rock and metal, as well as older styles of hardcore, have given us.
We are children of metal and hardcore, and you are like neglectful, asshole parents, acting like retards.
Go fuck yourself! Motherfucker yeah, I said gooo fucking fuck yourself, motherfucker! Fuck you!
>Listening to Burzum on Spotify (Aske) >Song stops because my dadrock dad starts to listen music with his phone somewhere else >He starts listening to the Burzum album >Hes not changing it, actually listens to it for a long while
>>61598192 >nigga >core metal >bruuutal dudebro metal >grind metal >children of metal We should have aborted you, I'm sorry. If you ever become self aware, you can always repent to the church of the real metal.
>>61598176 people who need other people to "help them make the right choice" are just weak aswell. I do not dislike weakness. people are usually not responsible for it. but not striving to overcome your weaknessto become a consciously independent being is a human faliure in my eyes. now those people who ARE able to make fully conscious decisions will agree to the reasons i gave since they are entirely logical. what you wrote there is just a pile of assumptions and eventualities. if you want to be compassionate, that's fine. but it won't get you and the rest of humanity anywhere. I have found the beauty of live for myself and I think anybody is capable to do so aswell. And I don't give a fuck about those who can't.
>>61598304 Your god dam right its elitism, sorry lad but down tuning a guitar, smashing open strings, throwing on 500 different effects, then vomiting on your mic as your "vocals" isnt good music. Name me a single grind/core faggot guitarist who even falls within a top 500 guitarists list, protip: you cant.
>>61598339 no guitarist in grindcore is concerned with achieving mainstream success it's called "underground" you blabbering fuckbag piece of shit. They are good at what they do or they aren't, and a bunch of dad-metal old people up in the offices that make those lists can't possibly comprehend the great guitarists of emerging genres.
>>61598412 >its underground that means its allowed to be shit >Its old dad metal >Motherfucker, go fuck yourself. Lmfao you swear like an angsty 13 year old whose parents don't "get" him because his dad likes Jimmie Hendrix and Van Halen. There are "underground" artists who don't play their guitars like down syndrome kiddies. Ouroboros, Black fast, etc, etc. Like I said before, down tuning and mashing open strings isn't skillful. Even black metal has much better guitarists and their whole thing is to down tune and sound "evil", which limits what they can and can't play by alot.
If you want real "underground" sound, then listen to something like Strapping Young Lads - Centipede (1997). Underground is meant to be outside of genres, where genres are born, not where a bunch of shitters all come to play the exact same sound as each other like in grind/core shit.
>>61598320 Calling another person "weak" is just mean. everyone are different, and everyone live in different circumstances. some people need support from others in order to be healthy mentally just because of the harsh circumstances they live in.
But even ignoring life circumstances - please consider this: for someone to commit such an act, it requires alot of mental strength, it's just that they make a very wrong choice and the mental strength is used in a terribly wrong way.
And it is a terribly wrong choice because, as i said earlier - experiencing anything at all is infinitely superior to the other option.
>>61598556 The fact that you refer to it all like that as if it's "grind core shit" shows how much of a dadrocker you are. You have no concept of this music. You are probably one of the people who thinks there are only a few kinds of rap or country.
>their whole thing is to sound "evil"
You may have taste in classic metal, but your understanding of the nature of music is lacking. There is much more to composing black metal, and extreme metal in general, than simply sounding "evil."
>>61598618 >>61598660 I said underground sound, and Centipede wasnt on their album (City) originally, it came on a special japan edition I believe. So technically is was/is "underground", if your definition of underground is just: not many have heard of it.
>>61598575 The Kirk Hammet fanboy ladies and gents! WAAAAAAAAAAHWAAAAAAH, technical skill only doesn't matter if you have not played music yourself.
>>61598659 It was generalizing, Im not gonna go in depth about why black metal sounds the way it does to someone who thinks "dad metal" is bad and grind/core shitters can even touch a guitar.
>>61598631 It requires mental strength to do it as I proposed. It requires absolutely nothing to do it out of weakness. I have had enough experience in that topic to come to that conclusion. If you consider that "mean", you have still to grasp the true nature of living. And terms like "right" or "wrong" do not apply if the choice is reasonable. You can not project your morales onto any other person.
>>61598739 You are the one who doesn't grasp the true nature of living yet, not me. we live as humans, and things like "beauty", "right" and "wrong", are things that actually exist because we perceive them that way. those things exist and they are real because of us humans.
"Things are meaningful because there are living things that perceive them as meaningful. that's why reality is objectively not meaningless, and why meaningfulness is a part of reality"
And that choice is not a reasonable choice, it is a wrong choice because experiencing anything at all is superior to not experiencing anything, and people who made that choice just do not appreciate how incredible life are, and they are often blinded by the fog of depression and they need someone to help them see how incredible it is that they even got to live. if they knew how incredible it is that they got to live at all, and truly understood how much superior it is to the other option, at least most of them wouldn't have made that choice.
>>61598768 Jesus christ you literally proved my point, without the distortion set to 11 and the 50 other effects the riff is literally more basic than a slayer song. You know what a slayer riff is? Its 60% open E, DRUGxMULE (holy kek the name) on the other hand here use the "power chords can replace talent" style of guitaring. Remember just play the same chord and move up/down on the guitar with 500 effects for 100% cool factor. Then throw in some single open strings to show off your virtuoso skills.
This is dumbed down retard music, its uneducated garbage made for edgy teens. Linken Park has more depth in their songs
>>61598890 You are posting it just to try and make me feel bad, which is really mean and silly. you should read what you just wrote, and look into yourself - is that really who you are? are you really the type of person to talk like that towards another people, who only wanted to help?
I think the fact you get to post anonymously made you lose yourself a bit, since you think there are no consequences to your words. relax, and start thinking before you type. try to be nice anon, it's not that hard - in fact, being nice is much easier and it feels really good. try it, you'll see how good it feels to be nice towards other people ~
Also, i firmly think you are not stupid enough to do such a thing just to try and make another person you saw in 4chan feel bad, and you know you are not stupid enough to do it as well.
>>61598863 I understand that you are unable to evaluate things out of a more elevated position. You are the one who is blinded, and that is by compassion. I do not want to spoil you your morales and perception of beauty, but projecting them on anybody else is a mistake. Be happy about your life as I am happy about mine, that's absolutely fine. But trying to "fix" other people will never get humanity anywhere.
>>61599013 You are the one who does not look at things in a more elevated position. you try to look at things from a "non human perspective" when in fact, we are all human, and you are human, and looking at things should be seen from a human perspective since looking at things is a human thing to do.
And compassion, is something that should be a part of the way you view things. being compassionate does not blind you, in fact, it makes you see things in a much deeper level, and helps you understand the emotions of other people. we are all humans, and all humans share the capability of perceiving beauty and understanding things. committing a suicide is a wrong choice because, at least most people who do it wouldn't have done it if they understood things in a deeper level. that is a fact. trying to help others make better choices for themselves and being compassionate is also incredibly important for humanity - the more compassionate we are towards one another, the better everyone will live.
>>61599127 It's a much more similar type of fixing than what you assume.
One of them is trying to fix a physical illness to save someone's life, which can also be seen as "trying to fix a physical problem to save someone's life"
The other one is trying to fix a wrong mindset which is a result of not thinking about things deeply enough, in order to save someone's life. and mindset is something that physically exists inside your head, and therefore it is also can be seen as "trying to fix a physical problem to save someone's life"
>>61599193 You can not fix someone's mindset. you can merely aid him in fixing it himself by giving him the necessary tools. Which are definitely NOT your morales and perception of beauty. Here's an allegory: Instead of bandaging someone's arm to let it heal you would duplicate your own to replace it. I hope that helps for your understanding.
>>61599295 I can fix someone's mindset. in fact, in the past, i have managed to convince someone in /mu/ who made a suicide thread to not do it, and he was thankful that i made him understand things in a deeper level. knowing that i might have saved someone's life on that day made me feel incredibly good, too.
Your analogy is entirely false. going to your analogy, what i'm doing is not trying to "replicate my own arm and give it to him", i merely assist the healing by smearing an antibacterial paste over it and put a plaster above it. sure, at the end, his body needs to do some of the healing work, the same way at the end the person need to look into himself and understand what i'm telling him to fix his mindset, but i can actively assist that and help that person
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