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"tfw you will never be as good as him but at least your music isn't utter crap like Claypool's or pointless farting noises like Jaco's" edition
>Post gear
>Post desired gear
>How long have you been playing?
>Fav guitars?
>Fav guitarists?
>Projects?
>Talk about and play music
>General guitar and bass discussion

Music Theory:
>http://www.justinguitar.com/

Guitar chords and inversions
>http://www.chordbook.com/guitarchords.php

String Tension Calculator (D'Addario based):
>http://hikkyz.net/misc/stringassembler/

Floyd Rose Setup Video Tutorial:
>http://youtu.be/umY5NBKg5AA?list=PLcm7Ag6Q-OkZAmlY6dAhS2ZL9TUMeRZdI
Steve Vai's Ten Hour Workout
>http://www.mediafire.com/download/kzw6kjuocgicwks/Ten_Hour.pdf
Guthrie Govan's Creative Guitar 1 & 2
>http://www.mediafire.com/download/bn8803xzlrbds3b/Guitar1.rar
>http://www.mediafire.com/download/9uhtufuf3z9cx8m/Guitar2.rar

Impulse Response Pack
>http://www.mediafire.com/download/svtfxjtillrdwt8/Gods+Cab+1.3.rar
>http://www.mediafire.com/download/4n28zkjw0zgmdj9/ASEM+RECTO+V30+L2.wav

Free VST downloads (amps and effects simulators):
>http://www.vst4free.com/

ASIO drivers (essential to use VSTs while playing):
>http://www.asio4all.com/

--

>Advancing Guitarist Mick Goodrick
http://www.mediafire.com/download/cvfno10fv4lf4a8
>Chord Chemistry - Ted Greene
http://www.mediafire.com/download/61n5op7eiifxztg

Others
>Mickey Baker's Jazz Guitar
http://www.mediafire.com/download/zq35xorj2iaqh22
>Modern Chord Progressions: Jazz and Classical Voicings for Guitar - Ted Greene
http://www.mediafire.com/download/oflu4wdwofhqqtb
>Jazz Guitar: Single Note Soloing Vol. 1 & 2- Ted Greene
http://www.mediafire.com/download/07o65qdh5in1nsq
http://www.mediafire.com/download/jmu86f7dj8bdxcd
>Beefhearts 10 guitar commandments
https://archive.org/post/338826/captain-beefhearts-10-commandments-of-playing-the-guitar

Last thread: >>61541970
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I think bass guitarists should leave and have their own threads.
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>>61548056
Most people play both
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>>61548056
too bad I'm a guitarist too :^)
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>>61548056
tBh most of the bass players i've met were more knowledgeable about their instrument and music than the guitar players i've met, more laid back too
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>>61548068
>>61548073
you two will be the first to go
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I want to get my first acoustic. I have about $600 to spend. What do I look for?
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>>61548068
>>61548073
kek, BTFO
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=PH3ENXlpN4w
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>>61548121
Were you looking for him?
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Could anyone help me by showing me tabs to this song, or giving me tips? I haven't found them anywhere and am having trouble doing it by ear.
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=paDKH4vsKi0
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>>61548110
Go to a shop, try them out and see which one suits you.

If you want to use it for any recording/etc get one with a built-in preamp, if it's just gonan be for practice/learning an el cheapo will be just fine.

Also comes down to whether you'd prefer a nylon or steel string guitar, both have fairly different sounds.

Also when you decide on which one to get get the store to do a setup on it (i.e lower the action and intonate the instrument)
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>>61548156
Bassist OP here anon, will see what I can do.
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>>61548091

bass player here, not too knowledgeable about music, but i love talking about gear :)
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>>61548033
The fact you think claypool is crap makes Me feel sorry for you
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/gg/ Trying to make a simple song that lets buddies improv using Am pentatonic scale, never done this before still learning. Basically minor variations of Am, Dm, Em, any recommendations for structure besides generic AABA? Already got a basic verse down, so A, but not sure what to do for a "chorus" or "bridge" (B or C).

I'm thinking of ABACBA or something.
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>>61548156
>>61548174
Turns out it's fingerstyle guitar, way outta my reach since I just picked up guitar 2 months ago and I'm still figuring out chord shapes.
Found this on the interwebz though:
http://acousticguitarforum.com/forums/showthread.php?t=137711
The final post has an attempt at tabbing.
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>>61548188
I wish they could ban images immediately so this image couldn't be posted anymore.

>>61548192
What pedals do you like?
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>>61548234
Thanks, I'll see how this works
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>>61548236
it just hurts so much to look at it
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>>61548216
He's right though:
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=953PkxFNiko
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=r4OhIU-PmB8

The only good stuff they have made are covers:
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=X9uk9IcoQ0w

And they're only good if you don't look at the originals first.

Enjoy your meme music I guess, it's literally more memetic than vaporwave. Even Claypool's bass of choice is a shitty tasteless meme (scroll bass)
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Muh black metal rig

Gonna order a thinline Tele tomorrow
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these amps are awesome for recording
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>>61548319
What are those small pedals?
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>>61548277
Well I guess its not for everyone. I apreciate your arguement though.
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>>61548355
POG clone and a fuzz that sounds kinda swollen pickle. Both Mooer
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>>61548383
>cheap ass plebe shit
Oh, ok.
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so now we have a mooer shill
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>>61548399
Cheap, yes. Shit, no.
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>>61548430
>price doesn't perfectly reflect quality
*tips rondo*
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>>61548428
Holy shit all I did was answer someone who was asking what they were
What the fuck is wrong with you people?
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>>61548399
mooer pedals are pretty good family
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Whats the ultimate versatile guitar?

>24 frets
> H-H with coil split
>vintage trem
>piezo bridge
>7 string


Anything else to make it more versatile?
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>>61548383
>dat garbage pedalboard
JUST
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>>61548439
It doesn't. It does reflect the conditions in which they were made. I'm aware that my mooer pedals and Rondo guitars were made by 10 year old slaves in rural china and I don't really care
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>>61548033
>>61548188
>>61548266
>>61548277
>>61548355
>>61548399
>>61548500
Not bad for a thread with just 34 posts, checking
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>>61548500
What exactly is wrong with it?
I assume you've tried all the pedals that I have and that's how you came to your consensus about the quality
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>>61548463
I know what you're up to
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>>61548494
>>7 string
You have to be 18 to post here, you know.
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>>61548439
>*tips rondo*
kek
>>61548529
>inb4 underageb&
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>>61548529

7 strings can be used for more than chugging you know.
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>>61548526
just vouching. i can't comment on the joyo as i've never had one
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>>61548494
semi-hollow?
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>>61548560
>7 string
>versatile
top kek
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>>61548560
Here it is, kids: 7, 8, and 9 string guitars are the result of kids playing in their bedrooms for years and years all alone. The poor kid in this video ( https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=osaqzYuoNr4 [Embed] ) overly technical "playing" is unfortunately just a compensation for the lack of a bass player. It's sad because the point of music is communication and the most enjoyable form of this communication is a concert (where people gather to share the musical experience). The only people who'd be interested in this kind of guitar wankery are other isolated bedroom-stuck 7, 8, and 9 string guitar troglodytes, so it's YouTube and the bedroom again, and MOM WHERE THE FUCK ARE MY HOT POCKETS?!?

Seriously though, it's a symptom of extreme social detachment, and goes right along with a lot of other unhealthy things like playing video games as an adult, masturbating to internet porn, etc. You'll also notice all these bedroom "pastimes" require a good bit of rapid hand/finger movement.

Playing music shouldn't be the equivalent of mashing buttons on a video game controller or furiously jacking your tiny dick, which is obviously what 7, 8, and 9 string guitar players believe.
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>>61548526
>>61548574
Seeing as how im the one with a board consisting entirely of Joyo and Mooer I think I can give a valid opinion on them

They sound pretty similar to the pedals they're modelled after. The reverb (biyang) is especially nice, I like it a lot more than my old HOF mini.
The construction on the Joyo and Mooer pedals isnt very robust, so I feel like I have to be more careful around them than with my old american pedals. Slightly more hiss from the Joyo and Mooer pedals as well, but its not a huge issue. The Biyang reverb is very well built though

All in all, good bang for buck. If you can afford the real American deal you should definitely go for that
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>>61548621
they're actually a result of jazz players wanting to do better solo arrangements. but yea, what you posted is the more common thing today
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>>61548621

I don't know, but it would make playing melodies high up the neck, and getting good bass notes possible.

And you can transcribe classical pieces for other instruments too. You can play that Bach cello prelude in G major now too.

It's not just chugging and shit. You can already do that on a 6.
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>>61548621
But senpai that Rob scallion piece is aight
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>>61548578

Interesting. How does semi hollow alter the tone? Does having a guitar semi hollow make it loud enough unplugged, like an acoustic?
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>>61548688
>and getting good bass notes possible
>Yeah, so would playing with a bass player.
And you can transcribe classical pieces for other instruments too. You can play that Bach cello prelude in G major now too.
And all sorts of other shit no one will ever want to do too, right?
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>>61548621
7 string guitars aren't that bad, although I'm kinda biased against them. 8+ are the height of faggotry. Take that from one of the most vocal ERG/ERB haters in the board (I was the guy that started calling them the height of faggotry and triggering the guy with the 10 string agile abomination).
I play a 5 string bass and it's nice that your guitarists can get that low B. Back when I had a band I used the 5th for drop D songs, the guitarists would play in drop D and I would play in B standard. I never liked the idea of alternate tunings so an extra low string comes in handy. Once you start getting the guitar in bass territory or adding high strings to the bass (any more strings than 5 usually mean this), thus getting the bass in guitar territory, it becomes stupid, pointless, and constitutes the height of faggotry, the more strings the faggier. Pic related.
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>>61548236
pedal list?
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>>61548730
that pic can't be real
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>>61548688
>and getting good bass notes possible
don't fool yourself, it never sounds as good as a bass due to scale length. Usually the first 6 strings suffer from scale length modifications that ruin their timbre too.
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>>61548728

What if I want to play a solo arrangement on a guitar? And no you can't on standard tuning, the guitar notes don't go that low.
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Reposting this

|--6----2----0----2----9----6----0----4---
|--4----2----4----0----4----4----0----4---
|--4----0----4----6----4----0----8----6---
|--4----4----6----5----4----4----6----6---
|--6----2----4----6----6----2----4----0---
|--4----0---------------4----0---------------

I just came up with this kind of jazzy chord progression roughly in G# minor. Can someone play it for me and upload to clyp or vocaroo? I can play it one chord at a time, but some of the stretches are hard to string together fluidly

Also if you can help me with the chord names. I'm not sure on any of them except for the G#m9 and G#m11
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>>61548621
>The poor kid in this video ( https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=osaqzYuoNr4 [Embed] [
literally sounds like a skipping cd desu senpaitachi
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>>61548751
why not?
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>>61548777
>what if I want to furiously jack my tiny dick to impress other furious tiny dick jackers
ftfy
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>>61548777
Tune in fifths or something, get creative. It will also allow you to think outside the box unlike what would happen if you add a string.

Nice trips, checking
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Why is my Strat twangy? Is it because of the strings, an improper setup, or bad technique? Note the strings haven't been changed in 2+ years.
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>>61548797

I don't know how that implies 'showing off', when I'm just talking about how extended range isn't necessarily a bad thing, if you want to do solo arrangements.
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>>61548777
then buy a baritone
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>>61548854
the point of having the extra string in a solo piece is so you can have that range while in 2nd and 3rd positions.
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>>61548621
kek, now I understand why there's such a fixation with fretless basses in djent, it's not just their predilection for meme instruments, the low notes on their 8+ string abominations also happen to have a similar shitty tone to the one of fretless electric basses.
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Best noise gate?
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>>61548780
Fun fact: shooting this at a bowling ally was subconsciously chosen because picking up the bowling balls and sticking their fingers into the holes felt like an accurate metaphor for the thumbs they've had up their asses during furious masturbation, and the complete waste of time all of their guitar practicing was.
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>>61548913
Everyone tends to say the ISP Decimator, but I like the simplicity of the MXR SmartGate
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>>61548834
Strats are naturally twangy because of their scale length and the string tension associated to it.
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>he bought a 9 string thinking it could substitute a bass guitar but he was disappointed because the tone was shit due to a lack of TENSION
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=xgu6uPfMIhU
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>>61549087
Who is this semen demon?
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>>61549150
reginazernayroberts.com
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>>61549150
idk, found her in google some time ago looking for "laughing bass girl" on google or something like that
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>>61548430
clip when
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>>61548450
wheredoyouthinkweare.gif
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>>61548706

Not that loud but it's slightly louder than a solid body.
Completely hollow electric guitars are even louder though.
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>2016
>still playing the stringed jew
>having to replace strings regularly
>having to tune regularly
>having less than perfect intonation
>having to worry about setup
>having to carry tons of extra gear around to get the sound you want
>having to hydrate the wood periodically
>having fret wear
>having limited range
>having feedback
>having parts that rust away in your instrument
>having to carry the load of the instrument while playing, thus hampering your playing ability
>having to shield your instrument
>having to change expensive parts of your instrument to change your tone
>being an outdated, string-strumming troglodyte plebeian
>not embracing the patrician instruments of the future
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>>61549519
>2016
>not combining the best aspects of keyboards and strings
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>>61549543
Ribbon controllers are pretty cool, I won't deny it. You're still missing perfect intonation though.
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https://clyp.it/4oajaewe
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>>61549543
>not combining the best aspects of keyboards and strings
>best aspects of strings
>implying there's anything good about them
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Was invited to Bassist friends house to jam a little, I've never played with another person before. Anyone got any tips for improvisation w/ another person? Also sorry if this is a stupid question, Im really nervous as he's a really good bassist imo and I just started playing guitar really.
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>>61549704
thats build up of oils from the hand. your hand touches the keys too ya know
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>>61549519
>rust
to be fair, a keyboard is more vulnerable to water and harder to clean during long term maintenance than a guitar. I do like keyboard tho
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>>61549704
Bending, vibrato, and slides.
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>>61549712
number one tip is don't be self conscious, the bassist will likely be very patient with you. If you don't know something or can't tell what note is being played ask. Be honest if you don't know something. Follow his rhythm.
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>>61549327
s-soon
My girlfriend got a puppy today so I was distracted by that
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>>61549863
sick pic bro
remember, I'm always here
rondo doesn't sleep
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>>61549860
Thanks man, I appreciate it. Improving shit is already hard enough, having to go off another person seems nerve racking lol
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>>61549916
Trü that. Rondo 4 lyfe
Probably gonna order a thinline Tele from them tomorrow if Kurt replies to my email about a tortoiseshell pick guard
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Is rondo a meme brand now
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>>61550017
forced meme
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>>61549863
pussy and bitch in 1 pic, nice fag
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https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=lO1gSUgN3bQ
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>>61549916
>>61549964

And people claim no rondo shilling occurs here baka senpai
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>>61549712
start with slow/ easy chord progressions, then after playing the same thing for a while, play a small solo or something that would go well with whatever you were playing before. your bassist should still be playing the riff while you solo.
i recommend learning pentatonic/blues scales if you just started playing

after that youll get the hang of it
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My name is Thomas

Would people think I'm a narcissist if I played and sang space oddity in front of a crowd
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>>61549519
>2016
>having to tune regularly
joke's on you
>1977+39
>having to tune regularly
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>>61549801
>what is the wheel on the left side
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>>61550051
kek, some italian called him a faggot in the comment section
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>>61550106
something that bends every note being played and doesn't do slides.
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>>61550159
You can do slides with your playing hand m8, just slide the finger where you can play both black and white keys.
Literally the only excuse to play an inferior plucked string instrument is that it's easier to learn scales on it.
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>>61550071
Play Major Tom by Peter Schilling instead
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>>61550192
you cant bow keys
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>>61550229
>implying you're supposed to play guitar with a bow
>>61550088
what am I looking at?
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>>61548494
The most versatile guitar I own is my seven string. H-H coil split mid-hot ceramic bridge and a cooler A5 neck. Lo-Pro Edge but I usually block it.

>>61548621
Modern seven string guitars have been around for more than twenty five years now.

>>61548730
A bass playing higher and a guitar playing lower still have massively different sounding voices though. It can work well as long as the instruments are written not to conflict with each other.

>>61548913
ISP Decimator. That new TCE one made a bit of a splash but a lot of those guys are going back to ISPs now. I'm using a rack mount ISP myself and it's absolutely brilliant.

>>61549087
I always forget how awesome |M|O|O|N| is.
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>>61550225
Hah, no thanks, bub
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>>61550312
>I always forget how awesome |M|O|O|N| is.
of course it's awesome, it's synthwave
>>61550312
>A bass playing higher and a guitar playing lower still have massively different sounding voices though. It can work well as long as the instruments are written not to conflict with each other.
Yeah, but those different voices sound like shit. High notes on a scale that's too long sound like shit, and so do low notes on a scale that's too short. 8+ string guitars tend to compromise their high note tone due to this. In 7 string ones it isn't always an issue because many 7 string guitars are 25.5" just like strats.
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>>61550398

Why would anyone need an 8 string. If you are playing in such a low key, would you even need the high E string?

Why not just drop all the strings down .
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>>61548494
>HSH with Gelvin VIPs
>Knife Edge Trem / 2-point trem
>Active Bass/Treble EQ
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https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=dME8ZqkOh-s
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>>61550424
because memes
>>61550457
>Gelvin
hi Bill
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>>61550478
I was ready to shit on them because they're Asians but they have great tone. 10/10 would rather listen to them rather than that stupid hack Jaco. Can't believe the tone on that MM btw, sounds much more pleasing than I'm used to hearing from that kind of bass.
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>>61548494
belew signature parker
all that + midi and variax
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>>61550424
To play stuff like this:
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=u4R2JKnRwfw

Just because most people don't do it well doesn't mean it can't be done well
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>>61550398
>of course it's awesome, it's synthwave
Trevor Something is my favourite in that scene. Dan Terminus isn't too far behind. Death Dream was my album of the year for 2015.
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=1MD5Y-TNYbA
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=KjrKrvF7JDA

>Yeah, but those different voices sound like shit
I disagree kind of. For the most part--yeah they can sound a bit funky. I even found the high e on a 27" was starting to sound piano-like to my ears. I'm all for experimentation with instrument voicing and what not though, so I'm in no hurry to condemn ERGs.

Yes there's a lot of Post-Progressive Breakdowncore bands with eight and nine string guitars but blame them being shit not the instrument.
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WOW
THIS CHICK BLEW ME AWAY
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=u_AI2v-4DTs
Found her by chance thanks to youtube autoplay after the asians video
>that tone
>that technique
>THAT GROOVE
she's literally better than me
I always liked Laura Andy but this one is on a whole new level
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>>61550629
is that a kill switch on the explorer?
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>>61548277
i like those songs
thus you are incorrect
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>>61548494
http://www.gelvinguitars.com/products.html
The pickups in theses guitars (but the stray model) let you change the output up to 6 different outputs mix that with whatever other stuff you want (split coil, phase, etc) you can get a bunch of different sounds.
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>>61550650
Nah it's just a pot with no cap on it. It was some dodgy wiring I had going on while I was swapping things around. I got around to fixing the wiring a week or so ago, I've still got to relocate the battery under the pick guard and put all the pots back in though.

I'm really happy with how it's sounding though, especially considering I've got EMGs (85 in bridge not 81) in there at the moment.

Still having a lot of trouble playing so forgive some weird moments and the butchered solo in the clip, but you get the idea.

https://clyp.it/51xxjui5
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>>61550752
why does it have a mudslime inlay?
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>>61550071
My name is also Thomas.
I don't think the song is narcissistic just because you belt it. People like that song.
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>>61550728
fuck off Will. Tonewood is real
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>>61550819
Crescent moon inlay isn't quite the same as what you're thinking about. They were on the original run of gothic guitars (that guitar is about fifteen years old).

Amusingly, the second run didn't have it, just had blank boards.
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>>61550728
are you trying to ironically shill for Will? Because I tried to do that some days ago and it gained no traction.
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>>61550832
What color LED will give me the best tone? Should I buy an oil in paper cap while I'm shopping for electronics?
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Do I really need a pick? Can't I just get good with fingers?
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>>61550899
you can.
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Le epic meme guitar :^)
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>>61550869
>Crescent moon inlay isn't quite the same as what you're thinking about. They were on the original run of gothic guitars (that guitar is about fifteen years old).
>Amusingly, the second run didn't have it, just had blank boards.
I googled about it and the reason for removing them was that some mudslime group in the US got butthurt and sued Gibson. Pretty funny if you ask me.
Blank boards are lame though, I'd rather have the Epiphone style ones with the XII inlay. Looks trve nekro arisk kult too btw.
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>>61550908
Hi leddit
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>>61550261
>what am I looking at?
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>>61550910
To each their own, I'm a big fan of the blank board and have been keeping my eyes open for a Gothic II for years. They're fairly rare though. I believe there's only about five hundred or so explorer examples.

Jesper Strömblad owns a handful of them.
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>>61550873
Meh kinda. I heard about this through an engineer at my work place, he seemed pretty gun ho about them and apperently has one being made for him. I never heard how well the guitars sound and didn't see the appeal for them.
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Is Ellefson really that good? Not a bassfag but from what I know of Megadeth's songs he mirrors Dave's riffs a lot and I have no problem playing most of those

(Fuck some of the earlier stuff though)
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>>61550974
they have some cool design features. The book matched necks are genius, mostly. I don't think anyone else can guarantee that your neck won't twist ever.
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What do you think of my jag? It's a 66-67, can't be sure but serial number is 188358 if anyone knows exactly. I'm pretty sure it's '67, but it's fucking mint. Sadly, I can't play this shit live for obvious reasons.
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>>61551029
pretty nice, but what good is a guitar if you can't play it like it was meant to.
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>>61551046

I mean, I technically could but I'll get too paranoid it may get damaged or stolen.
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>>61551012
One thing I thought was cool and I never saw before was having a guitar made from one piece of wood, I didn't know that was really possible.
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>>61551029
pretty nice but thats the exact reason i always buy ok guitars and switch the electronics.
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>>61551064
sell it amigo. It sucks when an instrument becomes "no fun allowed." It probably won't stay mint forever even if it stays at home if you're playing it. Cool guitar though.
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>>61551008
He can pull off very musical solos, his fills are God-tier, his tone is amazing (noticeable bass without being distracting, also really good sounding and packing serious punch), he can pull off lead bass songs effortlessly and without sounding like a tryhard memester. As you mentioned, he also often mirrors Dave's riffs. Some bassists can't resist the urge to stick out with some bizarre basslines that don't quite fit, that's not the case with David. He has a solid sense of rhythm and groove and provides the band with the adequate low end a band needs to sound powerful. Compare Megadeth with him and without, he's always been a crucial asset. I'm not saying James LoMenzo is bad, he's very good, but David is really unique.
I think Megadeth is a pretty cool guy, eh plays powerful basslines and doesn't afraid of anything.
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>>61551012
It isn't quite the same thing, but laminated necks are generally as twist resistant.

>if you really cared, you'd get a carbon fiber neck
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>>61551116

Nah I wouldn't sell it, a 60's Jaguar's been my dream guitar since I started playing some 13 years ago and now that I finally got one I'd rather keep it as a personal treasure. I still have my other guitars for playing live though (a CIJ 90's jazzmaster and a reissue mustang), so I can't complain really.
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>>61551273
>It isn't quite the same thing, but laminated necks are generally as twist resistant
That's why Norlins had them. It was a cost cutting feature aimed towards warranty claims. Guitarists tend to be traditionalists so they rejected them. Same for headstock volutes.
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>>61551276
besides, it will only appreciate now, it would be a silly thing for you to get rid of it. Some day that guitar could make you rich. I hope you have the paperwork for it, it could end up being a valuable asset when the day to sell it comes, either for you or your descendants.
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who makes the best digital amp modelers? Line 6 seems alright to my untrained ear. I'm totally unaware of other brands though.
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>>61550636
Damn .Good bass players never fail to impress me.
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>>61551029
That is a beautiful guitar, my friend.
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>>61548277
Hey, John The Fisherman is pretty cool. Rest is pretty memetastic though
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>>61551248
>I think David is a pretty cool guy, he plays powerful basslines and isn't afraid of anything.
FTFY. I fail to understand why you conclude he isn't afraid of anything but that's beyond the point. Are you Japanese, Chinese or something? Because that last sentence sounded pretty much like Engrish.
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>>61548621
>over analysing 5 extra notes

wew lad
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>>61551593
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>>61548730
Reminds me of my old Scale Power book.
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>>61551622
I don't understand the idea you're trying to convey, man. Does that dog have some special meaning for 4chan users?
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>>61551502
Fractal Audio (AxeFX II) for straight up amp and effect modelling. Kemper for tone matching.

AxeFX absolutely blows Line 6 away, but it's also a lot more expensive.

Skip to 1:18 on this
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=2h0WBM-ag18
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>>61550926

Le epic SG xD
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>>61551650
>AxeFX II
Hasn't that model been discontinued? I seem to recall getting told here that there was an even newer model
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>>61551673
The XL I believe. Has more power I think
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>>61551670
SG isn't a meme guitar, you dolt. Try Killer or Steinberger if you want to be le ebin ledditor maymayster.
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>>61551695
>The XL I believe. Has more power I think
Why is Fractal Audio so obscure though? I just learned about them in 2015.
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>>61551029
>Sadly, I can't play this shit live for obvious reasons.

Instruments are meant to be played.

There are classical musicians playing 3-400 year old instruments worth millions live all the damn time.
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>>61551715
they're not. they just cost a lot
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>>61551695
The AxeFX II was superseded by the AxeFX II XL. XL didn't add any DSP power, had a few minor changes but the big one was increasing the internal memory to handle Ultra IR better.

The XL has been replaced by the XL+ now which just has a different LCD screen.

The DSP on the II, XL and XL+ are all exactly the same (XL doesn't have any extra power). When people say AxeFX II they're usually just encompassing all of those models. It doesn't matter much anymore though since AxeFX Standard and AxeFX Ultra aren't too common to encounter now.

>>61551715
They aren't at all. They've been very well known since the AxeFX Ultra was released in 2008. The Standard didn't make a huge splash back in 2006 though.

The main reason you probably haven't encountered them it they're out of most peoples price range.
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>>61551727
you do realize they pick people based on talent and also on how much they sweat. also classical performances are not like rock shows. the handful of instruments worth millions are handled btw
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>>61550629
nice silverburst

don't let it get in the sun lol
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>>61551765
that colour change doesnt happen to new models
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>>61551744
>XL didn't add any DSP power, had a few minor changes but the big one was increasing the internal memory to handle Ultra IR better


ah my mistake
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>>61551755
>classical musicians don't sweat

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=TTlzSCnis2g

Just because you play rock music doesn't mean you can't play your instrument AND take care of it
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>>61551796
>classical musicians don't sweat
is something i never said.

its common practice for the owner to let a talented player use an instrument and sweat is a factor in this choice.
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>>61551796
that video made me nervous
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>>61551727
A rock gig can hardly be compared to a classical concert in terms of risk for the instruments though.
>>61551730
They aren't as well known as other brands that are inferior to them though. I never heard about them outside Internet forums. I guess it's similar to what happens with amps, Line6, Marshall, Fender and Peavey are hardly the best brands but they're the best known ones around. Except for line6, they also happen to be used by famous artists and to get the spotlight so I guess it helps.
>>61551744
Oh so there's the thing with the new ones. The price thing makes sense I guess although other types of gear don't seem to be affected much by it (guitars, amps, stompboxes)
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>>61551866
no. its a known brand. you are just ignorant and are assuming everyone else is too. yea sure its not fender but its hardly underground
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>>61551777
Yeah it ties in a bit with why Line 6 Helix makes no real sense. It has a third the DSP power of an AxeFX and in this country they're $2400. For $100 more you can get a mint AxeFX II.

>>61551866
AxeFX is marketed to a pretty different demographic. I have a handful of amplifiers as well as my AxeFX since I use them for different things.

They are very well known though, you might not have heard of them and that's fair, but they're hardly an unknown. They've been in major artists racks for almost a decade now.

>>61551765
That doesn't happen to current models. Not that it ever really matted anyway, you can pull the coating off a Norlin silverburst, reapply it, and the paint goes back to looking fresh.
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>>61551916
How do you pull the coating without damaging the paint?
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>>61551957
Never done it myself, but I know it can be done. It's not something I'd do myself though. I only use one guitar tech for big jobs, only person I trust with my guitars. Especially my strat.
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>>61551916
>They are very well known though, you might not have heard of them and that's fair, but they're hardly an unknown.
They aren't even in Wikipedia though, it's pretty amazing considering that several of their articles mention them.
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>>61551993
They have their own Wiki, no idea why they don't have a page on Wikipedia, but at the same time it doesn't really matter.

http://wiki.fractalaudio.com/axefx2/index.php?title=Axe-Fx_II_Wiki_Home

It's hard to say they're an unknown company with an artist list like this though.
http://www.fractalaudio.com/artists.php
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Hey /gg/. This is my first time on /mu/. I want to start playing guitar with no prior instrument experience. I was considering a starter pack containing a Epiphone Les Paul Special II. Is that an ok guitar to start with? It's pretty cheap.
I'm 25, will I get good enough to just chill in my room and groove a bit? I was planning on using rocksmith and some online tutorials to learn.
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>>61548494
Series/parallel switching would offer more sounds than coil splitting, and a middle pickup would let you quack
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>>61552027
I'm just saying they aren't too well known by the general guitar playing populace. There's no doubt that elite artists know them well.
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>>61552077
It could be where you are. It's very rare for me to encounter guitarists who don't at least know they exist. I got a ton of questions about it last time I was on tour since it's not real common to see them in use in this country.
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https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=-TaghI7vDS0
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>>61552070
Well I learned to play guitar on my dad's old ass nylon-string guitar and used youtube tutorials and read tabs of songs I like. Never went to a teacher or nothing.

'm not too sure about Rocksmith. To me it always felt more like you are learning how to play Rocksmith instead of learning how to play guitar. It doesn't do anything more than present guitar tabs in a prettier way.

If you just wanna chill and groove, you should be fine. But I'd personally recommend getting an acoustic first.
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>>61549519
>1984+32
>thinking synths are gonna replace other instruments
they killed the Rhodes back in the 80s (pic related) and now we have Vintage Vibe pianos as a result of how much people hated the ersatz Rhodes.
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Where to buy tubes online? I want to make a DIY tube amp
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>>61553302
http://www.thetubestore.com/
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Are there any decent compressors that do not cost more than 100euros?
I will mainly use it to boost the volume of my clean channel because it's much quieter than my crunch channel
Thinking of the MXR Supercomp atm 2bh f4m
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Why did I try to learn Ableton when Audacity is so fucking simple and easy to use? I get that Ableton can do more stuff but I honestly don't need any of that, and for a simple guitar recording Audacity is just better. Could have saved me a few frustrating hours there.
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>>61553362
Get the Dynacomp, It'll work better without the distortion of Supercomp.
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>>61553445
>not using the superior Reaper
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>>61553590
Thanks my man, I thought I would get the supercomp because of the Attack knob but I didn't know it added distortion
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Copped a 65 Mustang Reissue a couple months back. Considering tossing a single coil sized bucker in the bridge for some chunky rhythm shit. Anyone else got experience w the guitar? Any recommended mods?
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Anyone here had experience with Couch guitar straps? I'm thinking of buying a couple, I hear they're really comfortable. Anyone whos tried it out have a recommendation?

>>61548743
Mine or what?
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What's the best way to improve your musicality?
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>>61553639
Before you commit, try the Boss CS3 - it's about the best pedal they make and a fantastic compressor if you don't turn everything on full
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Any recs on a decent bass for downtempo x hardcore?

Oh yea and I guess I'll need some form of amplification also. All I know is I'll be playing through a RAT pedal for that meat grinder tone.
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>>61553673
Thanks, I always avoided boss pedals but I 'll consider CS-3 too. I can only "try" it by watching shootouts
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Hi, I'm the guy from a couple generals ago who asked about picking advice. It's been about 7 weeks since I started playing, now. What do you guys think of this?

http://vocaroo.com/i/s15Q4wP2RqOv
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>>61553729
Boss have good Loopers too, desu some of the only ones I'd ever use. My MO-2 sounds great also.
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>>61553671

Listen to a lot of songs of various genres, each using different flavour of chords and progressions.
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>>61553729
I only use mine fairly subtly just to even things out a bit, but it does what I want better than any of the others I tried.

I was ready to buy a Strymon at 3 times the price and one of the guys in the shop suggested I try the Boss first and that's what I bought.
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>>61553794
Strymon is good and all but you should never spend that kind of money on a compressor pedal.
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boss pedals are the fuckin shit.

I need to get more of them.
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>>61553821
I think you have an extra word in the first sentence, kid. heh
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>>61553821
BOSS aren't anything fancy sound-wise, but if you want a brand that you can throw in a van and tour around a country look no further. When I go back to a tube amp setup someday I'll probably use mainly BOSS pedals for my live board.

For now I'm a gaylord and use one unit for everything!
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>>61553445
If you want an easy to use DAW for recording guitars get REAPER. You'll get much better quality than Audacity and open a world of plugins. REAPER's inbuilt stuff is quite good considering it's essentially free.

>>61553821
>>61553848
>>61553861
BOSS HM-2 is one of my favourites.
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Epiphone Traditional Pro Les Paul or Agile AL3100?
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>>61553873
All software is free, isn't it?
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>>61553747
Pretty good for 7 weeks. Nick Drake is awesome.
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I'm going to ditch this digital setup and go back to tubes. Can't believe I fell for the Snax-Fx meme
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>>61553683
Lol in that genre man anything with strings will fuckin do fine, but really look into a decent 5 string Fender, mate of my mine has a US Fender Dimension bass and it gets chunky af, cheap used as well.

As for amps a lot of those bands rely on Ampeg or Mesa gear. An SVT-7 PRO or SVT 3 Pro + a decent Ampeg/Mesa/Peavey 6x10/8x10 will serve you forever.

Plus if you want that tru hxcx chunky bass tone get a Sansamp DI, all those bands like Harms Way, No Zodiac, etc pretty much get the thick sound through those afaik.

Always wanted to make a beatdown band but I make melo-death instead RIP.

>>61553873
Do want.

>>61553911
Is that a FRFR rig? Lol

2 things:
>Replace FRFR cab with a real guitar cab
>Replace FRFR cab with a real guitar cab and replace Matrix Power amp with a tube power amp

Option 2 will DEFINITELY get what you want, modelling pre + tube poweramp is god-tier setup mate.
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>>61553911
I'll take your Axe Fx if you feel like it was a replacement for tube amps.
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Boss pedals are quality. Ubiquitous and lack any fancy pants uniqueness but they are workhorses and many sound excellent for what they do.

CE2, BF2, HF2, DM2, MO2, PS6, TR2, OC2, LS2, FZ2 basically all of their digital delays, and lots of weird ones that are hard to find now.

I often get lulled into buying some esoteric, weird pedal for 200+ get it and then realize its cool and fun to mess with, but for actually serving a purpose, the simple and direct nature of boss stuff is so much better.
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Welp. I just bought gear to play guitar and it turns out the tuner I bought is pretty shitty so now I can't play... It's an D'Addario NS Micro Tuner and it does not work at all.
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>>61553944
Boss Distortions are shit tier desu senpai, cept that HM-2 for the GRIND sound. I'd much rather have my ZVex or Devi Ever over the Boss Fuzz or DS-1 - Though I do like the Keeley modded DS-1
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>>61553968
Owned one of those, and the only problem i had with it was the clip breaking. Tuned perfectly otherwise. Are you using it properly?
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>>61553940
Also could look into a Ibanez SR505 bass, can go cheap used and they sound huge, great basses if you're transitioning from guitar to bass as well.

>>61553968
Download an app on your phone man, won't be EXACTLY accurate but it's better than nothing.

Invest in a decent tuner pedal like a TC Electronic Polytune, Korg Pitchblack, Peterson Strobostomp OR a decent handheld one like a BOSS TU-12H
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>>61553968
I snagged one of these for 10 bucks. Works like a charm, better than a pedal.
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What's the best HM-2 alternative still in production for a low price
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>>61554024
I might be doing something wrong. I'm clipping it to the headstock and strumming my low E string but the tuner never detects it.
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>>61554038
Forgot the pic
Boss TU-10
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>>61554040
BOSS HM-2's aren't THAT expensive, some people think they are though. You can suss them out at reasonable prices, make sure to go Jap tho.
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do you ever sometimes feel like you are the worst guitar player on the planet?
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>>61553974
all distortion pedals are basically shit.
if you are serious about wanker toan, get a decent amp with wanker gain.

the boss hyper fuzz and fz2 are awesome fuzzes.
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>>61554042
Make sure the battery is in properly & there isn't one of those plastic tabs on it. If that't not the problem, find a different area of the headstock to clip it on. I'd always keep mine fairly close to the nut.
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>>61554105
>all distortion pedals are basically shit.
You're wrong but also right in the sense that an amps distortion from pushing an amp is also better than a distortion pedal sometimes. However, you don't get a Fuzz tone from an amp, and Fuzz pedals are god tier.
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>>61554081
No, because I know that you.
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Are the DIY guitar kits on eBay alright to build and play around with? People always bid on them like crazy but they always stay pretty cheap. I was thinking about bidding on one of the semi hollow Teles
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>>61548332
OP is this cube battery operated?
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>>61554081
I used to get that a lot, made me wanna quit for ages. Just gotta learn to be comfortable with yourself really. I don't think I'm the worst or best and I don't really care, I just play because I'm selfish it makes me happy (and sometimes makes others happy!).

>>61554105
Not always true, higher end stuff is generally pretty good, Amp Tweaker stuff is pretty fucking rad. Also my Hardwire TL-2 (while not sounding the best ofc) sounds fairly decent for $100, for a "metal distortion, nowhere near as good as an actual amp or almost any decent modeller obvs. I keep it as a backup in case EVERYTHING goes to shit in my live rig lol.

>>61554111
>>61554042
Possible the actual unit is defective? Shit happens.
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>>61553900
Very funny.

>>61553911
>meme
The AxeFX is great, you're using an FRFR setup with a MOSFET PA. Try running it into the effects loop of a tube amplifier and it'll blow your mind.

Basically >>61553940

>>61553974
Keeley DS-1 is a monster of a pedal. Prefer HM-2s all day though.

>>61554040
Saving for an HM-2. Avoid eBay and you'll find them cheap as dirt. That's the only place where they are $200+. Stick to MIJ though.

Obligatory clip of my parallel HM-2 tone.
https://clyp.it/latko352
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>>61554040
Buy an HM2 used. Most of the clones aren't very good.

>>61554105
>not using a Tube Screamer
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>its a prymaxe vid playing soft core porn jazz
>its a dennis kayzer vid playing staccato palm mutes through shitloads of delay and looper
>its a paul from guitarworld playing wanker blues rock
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>>61554143
They're basically (and I'm not the Rondo shill here just making a comparison) a starter guitar equivalent to a rondo. They're fun to do and stuff, but don't expect a guitar that feels or sounds like its a $600 guitar from the kit, or anything like that.

for what it's worth, if you have an interest in building they're awesome and fun as shit - not to mention you have your choice of paints, stains, colors, whatever. Very customizable. Just not amazing. You can grab them on Amazon too for around what, 170-270 USD? Been a while since I've looked.
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>>61554166
tubescreamers are light overdrive pedals for bloozfags not 'distortion' which usually refers to higher gain shit for juggalofags playing schetchers trying to be br00talz

plenty of overdrive pedals sound ok
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>>61554194
>tubescreamers are light overdrive pedals for bloozfags
never used one, have u
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I bet if you took the guts out of a Boss overdrive and stuck it in a 250 dollar JHS enclosure, everyone saying boss is shit would be cumming in their pants about its mojo.
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>>61554166
Johan at Anarchy Audio makes a spot on HM-2 clone, and my favourite fuzz pedal ever. The problem is that you can find an MIJ HM-2 for cheaper.

>>61554194
When I played in death metal bands a tubescreamer was the only pedal that was absolutely mandatory.
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>>61554236

you can get MIJ HM2s on ebay for under $100 all day long
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>>61554188

Man those telecasters are really SEXY. Reminds me of that Carvin TL60 I'm GASing hard on. I could buy it right now, but.. Man I can't justify it
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>tfw the jack on my waifu bass is randomly cutting out
I've never had to do any serious repairs on one of my guitars. Is it hard or expensive? Do you guys know any good guides to diagnosing and fixing the issue?
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>>61553940
Thanks for the recs m8 & yea you pretty much described the bass rig of Knocked Loose!

Yea I've been a blues guitar player for 8 years and do that seriously but I've always been a huge metal head and hardcore is just the most primal groovy shit ever.
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>>61554368

Nah its probably the output jack being loose. Should be a inexpensive fix. Bring it to a shop
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seeing how most people rely on pedals for making their sound, why are the options of big clean tube amps so limited?

you have the fender twin which is affordable, and then you have to jump up to super $$$ hiwatts

what other tube amps are available that are big and clean?
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If I want loud and clean I go with Epiphone Blues Custom 30 (great for taking my pedal board also). Big fan of my Marshall Class 5 for loud and dirty though.
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>>61554447
If you want big and clean try a Roland JC-120 Jazz Chorus. Nothing like it on the planet.
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>>61554447
I'm no expert on guitar amps but what's wrong with the clean channel on a, say, 5150?

I'm asking out of curiosity not trying to answer your question
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>>61554343
The left one isn't exactly tele like but yeah. I'll be honest, I'm not a fan of the classic tele shape, but I'm a huge fan of the more out there single cut shapes, like the MBC-1 and it's perversion of the tele shape.
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>>61554386
Too easy man, Hardcore is such a fun genre to play, doesn't take that much skill but it's all about the energy you output, some of the best shows I've been to have been more hardcore bands like these guys from a town over who I adore, their frontman is 10/10
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=BSueyExCyeQ

As for the gear again, if a 6x10 or 8x10 is out of your range I'd just go for a 4x10. Wouldn't bother with a 1x15, no fucking point really in this sort of music, all they do is output flubby low-end. That's cool though you're making such a shift in styles, I was taught primarily how to play blues/Jazz and I moved over to grind/death metal lol.

>>61554368
Cost my bassist $30 (Australian) to get it fixed in less than a day, simple job for most instruments man.

>>61554447
More so it's that there isn't a huge demand for the super clean tube amps with huge-ass headroom, ofc you get Sunn and Bassman's plus any variant of them. Not that many people rely on pedals really, a lot of rock guitarists from the 60's onwards relied on cranking stacks to the point where you got some heavy power amp breakup, sometimes adding fuzz to the mix too to get that thick sound we all love.

Peavey 6505's can BWOOM pretty well too. Ampeg V4's do the job pretty well too and are fairly cheap. Traynor stuff is also pretty aight.

A lot of the super clean stuff now are just solid state Power amps like MAtrix/Crown/QSC but there are still folks making the super clean tube amps. A lot of SS amps like the popular JC-120 as another anon said do the job perfectly too.

Pretty much you'd wanna look for the clean channel on an amp that has 6l6 powertubes and a decent clean channel, less channels/less going on the amp has the better usually.
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>>61554313
I'm >>61554155 if you're paying $100 you're paying too much.
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>>61554447
There's only so much you can do with a circuit
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Is this a good effects unit to add to a rack?
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>>61553750
I do have the RC-3, I got many boss pedals that's why I avoid them now
>>61553794
I would never drop more than 200eu on a pedal unless I got in a band that really needed ambient or psychedelic sounds
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>>61554595
I'm talking about the middle one. How's the upper fret access on that thing? Does the single cut get in the way?
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>>61554703
the MBC-1? It's fucking great, probably one of the best I've ever felt. When I'm playing the cut doesn't get in the way at all, surprisingly enough. not sure if ts because I have huge hands or not but it's really comfortable.
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>>61553217
the mark 1 is still the pinacle of rhodes/epianos, but if the price was more affordable on a vintage vibe i'd be all over that. They really do sound impressive
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What are you currently gassing for?
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>>61555062
sandberg vm4
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I NEED one of these
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>>61555062
Saving up for either a Tobacco burst Hagstom Viking or some kind of a baritone.
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How well can the axe get bogner tones?
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>>61555134
This is an Ultra, so keep in mind the emulation has vastly improved since this was uploaded.
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=VNUrf3qP3xA
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>>61555116
Ehhhh, they're ok if you play mainly clean and really low-gain stuff but anything getting into rock/metal territory they suck for, just fizzy. Nice little portable things but I'm not sold on them. The EL84's don't help either. Depends what style you play really.
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I have a question
I'm going to make money from playing first time in my life yay
Going to buy a looper afterwards
And the question: whats the best way to use looper with roland cube amp. Should I plug it to headphones out and back to aux in? Or between guitar and amp? Second way I wont record on different effects but idk if frist way will work. Should I pull the trigger on looper or scrap more money?
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https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=RQCwwOt9mzo
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>>61555228
Between guitar and amp. The other way will hit the preamp twice and sound funky (I'm a bad way).
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>>61555134
All of the Axe-Fx tones tend to suffer from a plastic creamyness that just can't get dialed out. I would avoid it
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>>61555116
Wasn't a big fan of the clean channel on this desu & the lead channel sounds really fizzy/squishy. Some really nice tones can be found in the crunch channel though if you use your volume knob to clean up & slap on a little reverb & run a boost/light OD into it
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>>61555376
idk how the fuck i typed desu but ok
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>>61555076
god damn. you get my dick hard with this pic and then i look it up, see the price and cry.
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>>61555454
I asked my local distributor for a quote

$3.3k CAD

They do carry a VM4 in store for a bout a grand less and it doesn't look bad. Maybe I can raise the money before they sell it...
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Hand exercises:
I want to do more stuff, I only get to play for an hour or two every day. So what can I do while I ride the bus or do whatever to help coordinate my hands and/or stretch them further, etc. Also, a good routine to get in the flow after I wake up, some specific warm up exercises I should look into? I play bass.
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Does G&L make decent guitars? Thinking about getting a single coil
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>>61555062
tfw I'll never have this
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>>61555487
you don't need to get too crazy with warm up, that's why it's called warm up and not practice. it shouldn't take more than 10 minutes.

if you want to get your hands really loose just wash them with very warm water for a minute or two until they turn slightly red.
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>>61555076
>>61555486
Holy shit, I live in Austria and a custom made classic special with rarewood was "only" 2000€. The ones they carry in stores are 1600€, and the VM4 can be had for 1500€ or a bit less. Sandberg is cheaper than a Fender American Standard for me.
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>>61555494
yeah pretty much on par with fender at all price ranges. I personally prefer them because they're cheaper on the used market since most people don't know the brand's reputation and history and assume they're just clones
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>>61555494
Yes, they do. I think that they would sell more guitars if they changed the headstock.
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>>61555517
Okay I'll try that out next time, but what about exercises to specifically train coordination of the two hands and stretching them further? Specific exercises should yield more progress than simply playing for a while, right? I'd also like some stuff to do on my 3 hours of bus rides every day, that would be nice.
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>>61555543
>if they changed the headstock.

it's such an ugly design

that stupid little bump looks like a guitar STD
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>>61555528
I basically am losing a grand to exchange rate alone.

I'm sitting this one out until the dollar reaches .85 USD. If that hasn't happened by 2017 I'm getting a custom bass made locally...
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>>61555573
Yeah, that sucks. Coupled with import taxes (I suppose) and whatnot that's kinda bad. I love their basses though, better than a Fender in my experience and, at least here, even cheaper.
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>>61555577
quad into dubs now that's a successful test
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It's amazing how many guitars would be better if they changed the headstock. They really are a deal breaker
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>>61555251
So I'm going to buy some multi-effect afterwards to stick it between looper and guitar, and set amp for clean? I want to record some low sounds, chords, and jam along, did it at my friends place and its really fun
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where do i go after learning all basic chords and barre chords?
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>>61555566
i don't play bass so i can't help you there

the thing with exercises is they make you good at playing those exercises, personally i find it worthless practicing certain exercises because i'll just never use them in any relevant situation. some exercises do help coordination and syncing up your hands, but just be careful and don't waste your time working on something that you will most likely never use.

maybe try getting one of these things in my pic for your long bus ride?
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>>61555295
This isn't true though. Stop using an FRFR or monitor setup. With a tube power amp and cabinet, or even MOSFET to a cabinet is sounds fantastic.
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>>61555486
they've got that exact california vm4 in that gorgeous blue on chicago music exchange for 1495$. I've never wanted something so hard.

why do i have to be so poor?
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>>61555639
literally every part of that guitar except the fretboard is a dealbreaker
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>>61555639
what in the fuck is that? WHY?
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>>61555639
change headstock text's color to green and add >'s, enjoy your memetar
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>>61555656
Scales
In other words: set of sounds that will work for some chords combinations, its fun to improvize with friends
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>>61555677
i'd suggest one of the d'addario strengtheners since they have adjustable spring tension. been using one for the last year to make my pinky stop being such a weak fag.
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What are some songs that will help me get better at adding inflections to chords while playing rhythm?

I just learned slow dancing in a burning room and he did a lot of this
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>>61555677
>>61555758
That's a great idea actually, I'm practicing tons of hammer ons to strengthen my fingers but if I can do that on the bus rides I could have a bit more time practicing scales and just playing at home.
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>>61555126
Maybe a baritone Hagstrom viking, tho.
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>>61555792
hendrix does that stuff all the time

his rhythm is almost entirely based on adding inflections and color notes to whatever chord he's playing
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>>61555062
I'm considering getting one of those orange micro terror and an 8 string since it would just ammount to 500 new, since there are sales, but having only an 1x8" and having 8 strings instead of 7 really makes me reconsider it.
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>>61555809
if you're going to get one of those, don't get the most hardcore high strength ones, they just aren't necessary for playing guitar, the high tension ones are meant for like rock climbers that need intense finger strength. for instruments like bass and guitar, dexterity is more important than brute strength

get like a medium tension one
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>>61555861
Thanks, I will.
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Which is the better budget guitar?
Xaviere from Guitarfetish or Rondo?
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>>61555994
No question there, rondo exceeds gibson quality.
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>>61555994
It's called saving up and not buying a shit guitar.
I have an ibanez GIO and the only reason I didn't throw it to the trash is because the neck is decent and I'll turn it into a fretless once I get something better.
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>>61556025
>fretless
want to know how I know you're an idiot?

>>61556008
kek. The Xaviere seems nicer desu senpai
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>>61556048
Go ahead and tell Guthrie Govan or Shawn Lane they're idiots.
Besides it'll still sound better in the hands of someone who can't play for shit on a fretless than it sounds right now with its dead frets and fret buzz party.
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>>61556025
>I'll turn it into a fretless

opinion discarded
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>>61556090
okay buddy I'm sure you're just as good as Govan and Lane
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>>61555517
>just wash them
Don't do this unless you want your skin to peel off.
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>>61556112
>as good as Govan and Lane
>in the hands of someone who can't play for shit on a fretless
Gotta start somewhere.
And anyways, there isn't going to be anybody hearing me play out of tune in my bedroom.
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>>61556112
>>61556048
You sound like a real faggot
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>>61556157
fair enough mate. if you manage to find an application for the fretless guitar that doesn't sound like total ass, I'm very eager to hear it.
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>>61556182
well shit I had better stop posting then
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>>61556182
>expecting anything decent on /gg/
F#BEAD tuning on a bass !
Pedals !
Jazzmasters are the coolest guitars !
4x12s are always useless !
Tonewoods !
Blues Lawyers !
Chugmasters !
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>>61556150
i've been doing it for years and at worst it just makes your callouses a bit softer, it's not significant.

i mean, really, if you take a shower every day you're making your callouses softer regardless.
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Would you ever buy a custom guitar?
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>>61556214
don't forget the newest memes
>muh rondo
>muh jaco
>muh primus
>muh fretless
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https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=VC02wGj5gPw

/r/ awesome use of the tremolo bar
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>>61556192
I'll call you back in ten years then.
I'm definitely going to play grindcore on that shit though, just because I can.

>>61556232
>he forgot the NADY halfstack
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>>61556214
>space between the text and the exclamation point
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>>61552070
>I was considering a starter pack containing a Epiphone Les Paul Special II. Is that an ok guitar to start with?
Yes.
>I'm 25
Age doesn't matter, so long as you aren't smaller than the guitar.
>will I get good enough to just chill in my room and groove a bit?
Entirely depends on how much you practice. It's all muscle memory so the more often you practice the quicker you'll git gud. Do 30 minutes a night at least.
>I was planning on using rocksmith and some online tutorials to learn.
This is fine, Rocksmith is a pretty useful training tool for practicing chords and stringing chords together.
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>>61556251
shit yeah the dissonance and shitty tone could sound really cool on grindcore. please record some grindcore tunes with it
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>>61556232
I thought the newest meme was
>claim universally respected musician is a talentless hack
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>>61556223
I would pay for that.
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>>61554600
>Not that many people rely on pedals really,
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>>61554600
>Wouldn't bother with a 1x15
>all they do is output flubby low-end

you're a fucking retard
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>>61556386
that's not a meme that's just /mu/ opinion warriors leaking into /gg/
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>>61555494
Every review I've ever read about G&L guitars is that they are really really good guitars for the money

but every single time I've tried one in a store I thought it was the worst guitar I've ever played

maybe all of the ones I tried were set up really poorly or something but its like without fail if I try a G&L it's going to be a stinker.

in other news

I've decided these are meme strings

they have remained pretty shiny for the past month but they never had the amount of brightness from the get go as trusty GHS boomers

they seem to have more problems staying in tune and the tension feels really floppy compared to GHS
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>>61556492
>trusty GHS boomers

More like rusty GHS boomers. Those strings are shit
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>>61556492
>meme strings
what do you mean? Overrated?

If so then yeah, I suppose so, but I definitely love the set of Heavy Bot - Light Top elixirs on my Talman, tuned down 2 steps for that Sword-esque tone and a normal set of 10's for my brown guitar. They still feel like new and man I love it.The Sound is great too. I used to be a D'addario man (still sorta am, I use their & string .10s set) but they always rusted too fast.
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>>61556492
>but every single time I've tried one in a store I thought it was the worst guitar I've ever played
setup in stores is pretty much always ass.

the one thing they can't fuck up is the overall build quality of the instrument. neck joint, machine heads, knobs, jack, bridge, frets, etc.

it sucks but you'll have to go on faith and reputation alone as far as the quality of the neck and truss rod go.

>maybe all of the ones I tried were set up really poorly or something but its like without fail if I try a G&L it's going to be a stinker.
I thought the same of fender. it's like they've got so many of them and are so certain they're going to sell they just don't give a fuck about keeping them in good shape.

yet when I try a MiA owned by another musician it plays like a charm.

there's only one store I know of in my city that keeps all its guitars and basses in good condition and they only carry a small amount of boutique brands. they're the nicest, least pushy people too. maybe they just like what they do.
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>>61556538
yeah

they are longer lasting but I'd rather have the stronger sound from strings that are good for a couple weeks than ones that last 2+months

although the bass strings have a bunch of fraying really fine hair stuff coming off them now which obviously is dmaking them sound dull so maybe they arent any longer lasting than normal ones
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>>61556386
>implying thats a new meme
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>>61551248
Ellefson is a bassist's bassist for sure. I used to play the fuck out of most of the songs on RIP and I was obsessed with copying his tone.
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Lcm9qqo_qB0
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What is the modern day Sunn Concert Lead, JCM 800, or AC30?
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>>61556966
>dave's voice
KEK
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>>61556966
I think he gets overlooked a lot because his tone doesn't really jump out at you like a lot of bassists who boost the shit out of their mids.

Dave's tone doesn't sound very appealing solo, but in Megadeth it's one of the best tones I've ever heard as far as complimenting the other musicians and enhancing the overall sound.

Plus he knows when it's appropriate the play around a little bit (and when he does, his licks are killer), but he understands the importance of backing the guitar in that sort of music, which is something a lot of people don't understand. I think this, couple with the fact that his tone doesn't jump out, is where he gets a reputation for just copying Megadave.
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Sorry for the dumb question guys. How difficult is it to restring a guitar? Just started playing two weeks ago and broke a string. I can pay 15$ at a store plus the cost of strings to have them restring it, is it safer to do that so I don't fuck anything up?
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>>61556966
>>61557389
also he gets shit on a lot by retard bassists who fell for the "le picks are bad XD" meme
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>>61557414
no thats robbery, do it yourself. there are countless videos on youtube you can follow.
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>>61557426
>pick
>not bad
Enjoy never being a real bassist and only a failed guitarist
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>>61557437
Yeah you're right. How specific do I need to be when buying new strings?
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>>61557464
kek fucking idiot
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>>61557468
You need to buy the same gauge that it's already on you guitar.
It's probably 0.09
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Is this a good cab to use in a band?
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>>61548033
>my feelfag opinions got totally shat on yesterday
>maybe if I make the next /gg/ it'll be like I got the last word
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>>61557464
not being open to using every tool at your disposal is a dead giveaway that you're a shit musician and never ever will be halfway decent
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bumb
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>>61557758
bump limit was reached an hour ago
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>>61557549
Is 0.09 the standard gauge for most guitars? I have this guitar http://daddario.com/DADProductDetail.Page?ActiveID=3769&productid=28&productname=EJ21_Nickel_Wound__Jazz_Light__12_52 and a card came with it saying it has D'Addario XL strings.
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>>61557788
fuck's sake I keep doing retarded shit since the last 3 days
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