Is conservative punk a thing, /mu/?
I like folk punk especially but it tends to get political and when it does, it's more left than I am. So is there punk music with a little less 'stop wars' and 'down with fat cats' without going full fascist?
Problem is that there will never be conservative punk because conservatives are thinkers, conservatives write books, look at demons by dostoevsky.
Music needs emotions, and conservative politics don't really factor in emotions.
I don't feel like rightist sentiment is really socially accepted.
>the nation votes Conservative majority government
>the nation's pop culture endlessly shits on Conservatives
>anyone saying they vote Tory is assumed to be a racist prick
Oh of course it isn't socially accepted, but people only say they are leftist because they're afraid other people will call them racist or bigoted or whatever, it's the old fear culture.
Not that the Tories are even particularly right wing anyway, Tories basically have the same 'let anyone in we don't give a shit lol' attitude as labour but they pretend they don't.
In conclusion, young people listen to music, young people are all liberal because they either haven't grown out of it, or can't admit they aren't liberal due to peer pressure, so pretty much all music is lefty
>listen to music
>this is pretty good!
>finds out artist is right wing
>eww I can't listen to this!!!!
>listen to music
>This is pretty good!
>finds out artist is liberal
>everybody who disagrees with me actually secretly agrees with me
I wasn't trying to imply this, I actually fucking hate that retarded line of argument, all I was saying is that right wing kids WILL get ostracised for saying they are right wing. I pretend to be left wing or just say nothing in public so that I don't cause any drama when people talk politics
Faggot please you literally said they are all left wing because they are not as le enlightened as you or are lying to themselves. Sounds to me like you're just a silently smug 'wake up sheep le' faggot looking to be exalted for your opinion.
You missed out on the context, me and the anon were talking about England, it's a much different political climate here, where if you say you are a tory or right wing you will immediately be labelled a racist if there is a lefty in earshot, but you sort of hijacked the conversation and really missed out on the nuance there
Conservatives have emotions, but they don't factor as strongly into their politics as radicals and reactionaries.
There is conservative music, but it is not outright expressive in its politics, it is more sophisticated than protest music.
We have a lot of leftists that thought they had it in the bag in the generals, when tories won there was some insane butthurt, and due to the migrant crisis they have been going pretty much insane with the whole racists thing.
I was talking about young people, you'd see if you actually read the thread of the conversation before writing a butthurt reply but never mind. Being a young english person, I can safely say that pretty much everyone that isn't a chav in my age group is a braindead leftist that just agrees with whatever corbyn has said most recently.
Shy Tory Factor. People think of the common man as the righteous man and the lower class man. Turns out the common man is middle class and pays his taxes and doesn't like all these Pakistanis taking up seats in the NHS waiting rooms. This man is seen as the bad guy, so people don't want to think they are that man and don't admit they vote the way he does.
>Hey did you vote labour anon? I sure hope you voted labour like a good boy!
>w-well actually, I sort of didn't actually kind of vote for labour
>WHAT YOU FUCKING RACIST MISOGYNIST SHOTLORD NAZI BABY RAPER KILL YOURSELLLGLGLF IM CALLING THE POLICE
Punk is necessarily an 'extreme' form of music. Look at how the main exponents were at first the white males the Ramones and Sex Pistols (And their forebears the VU, Monks, and Stooges). These bands were concerned with nothing but the music. The political message was nonexistent. Their reaction to the evils of society was nihilism and recreational drug use. Then along came the Clash with left-wing ideology. Somehow, despite an appropriation of black musical forms like reggae and dub that would be derided today, the Clash became the single most important punk band from the 70s - at least in the 80s. Yet the Clash were also white men. How could punk go further - continue to push against an imagined right-wing hegemony that the Clash railed against? By actually being nonwhites, gays, and women. Bands like Bikini Kill and Sleater-Kinney (who are actually good) as well as queercore gave rise to the scene of today, where people fall over themselves to praise "important punk" like Against Me! and Perfect Pussy despite these bands having the exact same ideas as the bands from the 90s. Perfect pussy aren't even good. Nihilists like the originators of punk are now given the lowbrow 'pop punk' epithet.
>walk past rows of house displaying Lib Dem and Labour signs in the windows
>one Lib Dem window seems to have had an egg thrown at it
>check your watch
>enter the park
>kids are screaming on the climbing frame
>a dog seems to be eating its own shit
>go and sit on the nearby bench
>a man is sat at your back on the other side of the bench
>he is reading the metro
>you don't know where he got that from
>"is it done?" he says
>tell him that the votes were made and polling stations empty by the time the proles rose from their beds
>"good, the constituency is safe once more" he says
>he folds his metro and sets it down beside him
>you can see the paper in your peripheral vision
>"god save the queen" he says and stands
>"god save the queen" you return
>the man leaves
>reach over and take the paper
>read the front page headline
>"Lib Dems Pretty Sure They've Got It In The Bag This Time"