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RIP Pierre Boulez

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oh fuck you aren't kidding

R.I.P.
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>>61529600
I was more sad about Galabru's death two days ago
can't really say I'm giving half of a heck here
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>>61529648
cool
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I first found out about Boulez through Frank Zappa :|

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=GZ29gn5P68M
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The last of the great combovers.
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Fuck no

Please no
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STICKY THIS
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NOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOO

PLEASE NOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOO

THE FUCKING NORMIE CANTALOUPE MUSIC FUCKS ARE GOING TO WIN

>yfw he never blew up Bayreuth before dying
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>>61529704
Ornette Coleman couldn't even get a goddamn sticky and he's memejazz.
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I am unfortunately not familiar with his work, but still from what I can tell he produced great music and it's really depressing to see him go. Any place I should start with his work?
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>>61529727
Ornette Coleman is a midget compared to John Coltrane, and Coltrane is a midget compared to Boulez
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>>61529729
There are some great recordings available on Spotify. Check out him with the BBC/Ensemble Intercontemporain on Eclats/Multiples, his DG recording of Pli Selon Pli (and of Le Marteau sans Maitre) and the Naxos recording of the piano sonatas.
>>61529742
I don't disagree, but this board as a culture thinks more of Ornette Coleman.
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>>61529706
>>yfw he never blew up Bayreuth before dying

He got his passport seized by Swiss police in September 2001 because in 1967 he threatened to blow up opera houses.
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>>61529729
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>>61529757
>the naxos
>not montaigne
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>>61529769
Have you heard any other piano sonata recordings? I just didn't know Montaigne had a set and I'm wondering if it's the best.
(the rest are all good)
>>61529775
well I guess that answers that?
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>>61529757
>>61529769

Thanks so much.
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>>61529792
no problem, his work is tremendously rewarding. as much as Schoenberg IMO
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>>61529792
Other essentials
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>>61529779
I have 4 sets of his sonatas and various other singles and I think Idil Biret on naxos does them best. She can be fairly bland and forgettable in most of her rep, especially Beethoven but shines in Boulez.
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>>61529821
Can't forget his Ravel though!
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oh no! (pretending to know who this is) RIP
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>>61529926
not knowing who Pierre Boulez is should be the test of whether or not you like music as a hobby or as a sincere interest/passion
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FUCK

I wanter to work at the IRCAM...

RIP Pierre Boulez...
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>>61529946
He was a qt
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>>61529600
sticky for Boulez when
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>>61529600
Sticky pls
Pierre is much more important than Lemmy
RIP PB
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Post rare Pierre's
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>>61530008
>yfw a mindless shouting drug addict and alcoholic is treated with more reverence than the greatest composer of our time
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He had incredible avant-gardist swag
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>>61530017
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MODS STICKY
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STICKY MODS STICKY MODS

Boulez was a fucking hero.
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>>61530004
I'm sticky for Boulez right now if that counts.
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>>61530043
how does Stockhausen manage to look so based in every photo of him
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>>61530017
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>>61530086
Do not confuse mental illness with being based
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Reminder that it's thank to Pierre Boulez that you have had the Velvet Underground and Can.

Never forget the influence of his works.
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fuck i checked it and it's true

RIP Boulez, he was one of XXth century's bests
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>>61530086
he's from sirius
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>>61529821
>>61529769
I have to admit I have never heard this guy: if I had to listen 1 piece only… which one should I pick?
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S T I C K Y
T
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C
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if Lemmy got one and we want to care about the quality of this board, Boulez should get one with no doubt
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>>61530130

4:33
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>>61529926
>uneducated newtrip
how surprising
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>>61530130
Le Marteau sans Maitre.

Best recording has been posted in the starter pack.
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>>61530130
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=WOd0o969C2Y

Although other works might be better I think this is one of the most accessible.
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>>61530130
Try Repons

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=JhQ2AZsK7Os
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Name one good piece he wrote that you've listened to a lot.
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>>61530181
...Le Marteau sans Maitre.
And Pli Selon Pli.
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>>61530164
True, it's still genius though
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>>61530133
Of course we don't care about the quality of the board, it is a shithole. The people crying for a sticky simply want it to help justify their time wasting here.
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He was too based for this world
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=y17-pJZ9nEg

RIP
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>52 / 12 / 17 / 1

Is /mu/ dead ?
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>>61530232
I've given up on this shit board.
How are you surprised at this point? Most of these faggots wouldn't know unless there was a pitchfork obituary.
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>>61530202
>that video
What a madman
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>>61529600
RIP in peace.

Without him we probably wouldn't know Bartok's music among many many other 20th Century composers who's work he pioneered in his time with the BBC Symphony and the NY Phil, as well as throughout his life.

I may not listen to a lot of his music, but he has helped cement many of the 20th century greats in modern repertoires.

I predict there will be no sticky. /mu/ only cares about bands and popular music. The people here with good enough taste to enjoy 20th century art music are few and far between. There will be no 5000+ posts about how great the ace of spades was, only 300 ish as this thread 404s forever.
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>>61530017
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>>61530350
Frank: "Where do you put the dick"
Pierre: *motions at his mouth*
*Audience laughs*
Frank: "You're a bit like your mother that way..."
*Audience roars with laughter*
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>>61530372

That was awful.
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>>61530389
Its accurate to Mr Zappa's humor.

You're lucky there were no jazz discharge hats
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sticky pls. he was one of the greatest
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>tfw music library has scores to all his best works
time for some score study
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>>61530573
Empty shelf, then?
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>>61530611
xD
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>>61530611
...?
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>>61530021
faggot
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>>61530164
not bad at all tbqhfam
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You can tell how genuinely sad they are!
>>61530712
Prove me wrong.
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>>61530736
>Natalia Fuchs

I bet she does
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...so he kinda continued the work of Stockhausen?
sorry for the pleb question!
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>>61530736
they probably have no clue who that is!

actually neither have i lmao where would you find out about this shit if you're only a hobbyist
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>>61530846
Don't bother, it's really not worth it.
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He'll be fine
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I don't even like Boulez as a composer, but come on mods, sticky this
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>>61530846
TT on French Twitter FYI
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>>61530829
Boulez was the leader of the Darmstadt School movement, of which Stockhausen was a part of

>sorry for the pleb question!
At least you apologized
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>>61530862
Le lol so random meme guy
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>>61530829
No he was a contemporary of Stockhausen, he just lived longer, but didn't compose much recently anyway. He more continued the work of Schoenberg and Webern but became a fundamentalist for "total serialism" before giving up and being a conductor of mostly 20th century works.
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>Not since Wagner had a composer played the bully to such effect. Boulez’s tactics were exuberantly brutal: he compared himself several times to the Bolsheviks and to the Chinese Red Guards. He placed Stravinsky in his neoclassical period at the head of the “useless.” He accused Schoenberg, after his death, of the “most ostentatious and obsolete romanticism.” Webern was “too simple.” Berg suffered from “bad taste,” Ravel from “affectation.” Twelve-tone music in its extant form was overrun by “number-fanatics” who engaged in “frenetic arithmetic masturbation.” Boulez’s teacher, Olivier Messiaen, produced “brothel music.” John Cage, who was at one time an ally of Boulez, became a “performing monkey,” and Karlheinz Stockhausen, likewise, a “hippie.” The American minimalists displayed a “supermarket aesthetic,” the American serialists had a “cashier’s point of view.” Brahms was a “bore,” Tchaikovsky “abominable,” Verdi “stupid, stupid, stupid!” And so on.
Based as fuck

RIP
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>>61530908
>>61530877
thank you guys, it's helpful

>>61530925
glad he didn't stick to the French stereotype of being an arrogant asshole...
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>>61530925
Woah, source?
Some of these are accurate, [spoiler]others can't really say[/spoiler], but like half of those are just gratuitous insults.
>Stravinsky
>Useless
But Le Sacre du Printemps was great directed by Boulez himself, and performed by Cleveland Orchestra!
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>>61531010
or just spouting shit to get attention
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>>61531010
>Stravinsky in his neoclassical period
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>>61530925
well this isn't very nice
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I demand a source for this.
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>>61531048
Oh, fuck. Skipped that part.
Still a weird quote.
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>>61531064
Googled it and it's true.
Fucking mods gave Lemmy a sticky but probably won't give it to Boulez.
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>>61531103
Boulez has a ton of weird quotes.
He never got to blow up an opera house ;_;
http://www.telegraph.co.uk/culture/4703931/Boulez-and-the-blight-of-the-opera.html
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>>61531038
Mostly just attention spouting shit. He knew the power of a good putdown. I don't think he every wrote much detailed musical analysis on anyone's work.
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>>61529742
>Coltrane is a midget compared to Boulez
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>>61529600
MODS PLEASE STICKY
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>>61531221
yeah, i think it's fair to say that the transcendental coltrane was superior to and more relevant than the navel gazing boulez
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>no sticky for this
>sticky for lemmy

mods confirmed redditors
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if dubs, mods sticky
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Everyone find Pierre Boulez's live performance of Mahler 7 on PBS with Chicago Symphony. It's so good..

RIP dude
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>>61531365
Lemmy is a legend, no-one knows who this bloke is.
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>>61531391

>no one knows who this bloke is

I took the bait that made me mad.
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>>61531378
so close
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the lemmy thread wasn't stickied because he died, but because that one guy that he'll be fine the day before he died
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some of you are joking around and I ask that you please stop... let him RIP
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>>61531436
Don't be inconsiderate. He's dead, not a fucking beyblade.
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>>61531360
>yeah, i think it's fair to say that the transcendental coltrane was superior to and more relevant than the navel gazing boulez

I didn't mean to say that Boulez is shite, I love them both, but saying things like
>Coltrane is a midget compared to Boulez
is retarded. Artists who are that good are impossible to compare because they're both essentially "perfect" and there's little either can bring to the table that the other can't

That said I do prefer Coltrane taken as a whole.
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I've never listened to his work as a composer, would Structures be a good piece to start?
also RIP
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>>61531427
Mods are disrespecful shitheads, as are you homophobes.
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>>61531391
Nah, just no one cares.
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>>61531459
It's pretty much all equally bad
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>>61531459
My intro was Repons.
Haven't heard anything better from him yet though.
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>>61531451
>not a fucking beyblade
this meme kills me each time
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Oh man.
I knew it was coming, but damn, I wasn't ready.
Good night sweet prince.
what are you listening to commemorate him?
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=wxYCLbbW12c for me
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>>61531546
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RIPIP
STICKY WHERE?
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>>61531604
if it's not related to anime or video games the mods aren't likely to care enough to make a sticky
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repons is such good shit
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Reminder that minimalism is supermarket shit
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>>61531735
So what Boulez was saying is that it's proto-vapourwave.
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S T I C K Y
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>>61532135
they only sticky p4kcore
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>>61532289
like motörhead?
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literally who?
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>>61532289
so who are the p4kcore artists and bands inspired by Boulez? ..........AnCo??
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>>61532289
and weeb garbage
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>>61529767
>He got his passport seized by Swiss police in September 2001 because in 1967 he threatened to blow up opera houses.
THE ABSOLUTE MADMAN!

But fuck we will never have someone as nearly as based to BTFO critics.
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>>61530241
>actually expecting /mu/ to know jack shit about music
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>>61530261
>I may not listen to a lot of his music, but he has helped cement many of the 20th century greats in modern repertoires.
This. We gotta be thankful for many of these 20th century figures; music today, whether classical or popular, wouldn't be the same without them.
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>>61532335
Pitchfork reported on them, yeah.
>>61532340
fuck off kid
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>not Rap or Hip-hop
Into le trash. Stay mad, you pretentious white faggots.
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>>61532569
Pitchfork reports on anybody
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>>61532737
Not Pierre Boulez.
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>>61532617
>rap or hip-hop
>pretending theres a difference
Stay delusional, wigger.
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Genuine question.

What should I know about him? Never heard of him until today and now I feel bad.
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>>61532741
http://pitchfork.com/news/62757-composer-pierre-boulez-has-died/
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>>61532890
lol busted
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>>61532890
now its official
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>>61532890
marking the first time that p4k readers have ever heard of pierre boulez
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>>61532881
Modern composer, respected for that, Into serialism, like Stocky.
I firts heard about him as a director.
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>>61532890
Boulez confirmed for p4kcore shit.
Any of you faggots listen to his music you're just /mu/ drone indieboys.
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Oh man, that sucks.

I love his Stravinsky works, probably the most polished performance of Rite of Spring I've ever heard (though not my favourite)
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rest in piece you beautiful little swine
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>>61532890
>>61532916
>>61532948
>>61533006
>>61533086
>NOT EVEN ON THE FRONTPAGE

FUCK

PITCHFORK
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>>61533092
>though not my favourite
What is it, anon? Thats my favourite ballet, and probably favourite orchestral piece.
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>>61530179
Came here to post Repons.

I don't in general agree with his approach to composition (which often seemed to favor organizational principles over the actual perceived sound), but his contributions have been extraordinarily important.
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A long interview from 2010 (in French): http://www.diapasonmag.fr/actualites/a-la-une/pierre-boulez-est-mort
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unironic f

my favourite 20th century composer
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>>61533904
good choice, it's either him, Schoenberg, or Messiaen for me.
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>>61529648
>caring about this shitty second class actor
plen
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>Paul Bley
>Pierre Boulez

This is shit year.
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>>61529675
Miller Puckette tho.

I think the hair is contagious, he used to be at IRCAM.
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RIP.
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>>61535035
>>Paul Bley
Wow, I just found out about this.
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>rest in peace
>here's a link to the shittiest thing he ever did
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What's with France losing so many icons in the first few days of the year? Delpech, Galabru, Boulez....

Aznavour, Delon or Godard are probably going to die this month as well then.
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>>61535504
>Delpech, Galabru
are you +50yo?! who cares about these old fucks
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>>61535367
That was a solo Synclavier thing, Boulez was only involved in the orchestral tracks. Christ, what a fucking idiot.

>>61535504
They're all old as shit, so it wouldn't be surprising.
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>>61535367
>"oh shit some important old guy died how can I look like I'm really knowledgeable?"
>"Oh he did something with Frank Zappa. There, now everyone will know how smart I am."
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>>61535367
fantano is an absolute hack when it comes to anything that isn't indie shit or metal
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>>61535638
I'm sure that's literally the only thing that came to mind when he heard "Boulez", and he was too lazy to even notice that Boulez had nothing to do with that particular track.
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>>61535367
>this cunt pretending to know who he is
I say we actually murder fantano
anyone live near him?
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>>61535703
but even with indie or metal he's shit let's be honest.
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>>61535900
that's true, in his reviews he never goes beyond the most surface level details of music.
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>>61535900
>>61536030
at least when he's reviewing metal and indie, there's that implied sense of "I'm just a music nerd, I'm not trying to seem legitimate, I'm not trying to seem like some important critic; I'm just a guy who reviews popular music"

but then when he starts talking Jazz or Classical it's like he's trying to seem greater, more knowledgeable or diverse than he actually is
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Hopefully others join in
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>>61536912
Hi Matthew
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>>61529600
a long life well-lived.
R.I.P.
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Local classical radio station has been playing his stuff all day.
Very sad day.
But man, it sure is jammin
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i was hoping there was a thread for Pierre on /mu/
thanks op
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>>61537297
Sadly it isn't a sticky.
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FANTANO DELETED HIS POST

justice is served
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Well we're off to a great year
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>>61530925
>hated Stravinsky's hipster embrace of neoclassicism

based as fuck

>nothing negative about Debussy or Bartok

even more based
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>>61537375
justice is hidden
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>>61537424
>prefering debussy over ravel
m8...
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>>61537375
lel
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>>61530925
>He placed Stravinsky in his neoclassical period at the head of the “useless.”
Nut what if I liked Oedipus Rex and Symphonie de Psaumes?
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>>61537458
Debussy was inarguably a much more important composer.
That being said would rather listen to Ravel.
>>61537484
Boulez isn't objective fact dummy.
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>>61537458
I love both equally, and his criticism of Ravel seemed light compared to the others.
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>>61537501
>Boulez isn't objective fact dummy.
I know, I know ;^)
But anyway I only heard Le Marteau Sans Maitre, what's other good composition by Boulez.
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Pli selon Pli is fucking great it turns out
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>>61537484
Symhpony of Psalms is his greatest achievement during that awful modernsky period, along with the Violin Concerto, Scherzo a la russe, Les noces, Cappriccio, Piano Concerto, and L'histoire


Everything else of his is complete ass after 1945
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>>61537539
Repons, Piano Sonatas, Derives, Notations
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>>61537501
>Debussy was inarguably a much more important composer.
>That being said would rather listen to Ravel.
Didn't disagree on that, however I would state that most people often overlook how novel the application of jazz and blues in Ravel's music was, as well as the more rigid structures to a language that is somewhat similar to Debussy's.

>>61537510
There's at least a smidgen of truth in it though, or at least I feel that way. Nothing wrong with it though.
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>>61537580
Great, then I almost heard all that's worth hearing from that period. I also heard Symphony in C which was kind of meh.
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>>61537375
REKT
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>>61537607
>There's at least a smidgen of truth in it though

I don't think so at all, Ravels application of classical forms in his compositions is why I admire and enjoy his music so much. A brilliant craftsman in the vein of Mozart, Brahms, Schoenberg, and Carter

>>61537633
Best Stravinsky is Russian/Early Neoclassical Stravinsky, I don't care if someone calls me a pleb for saying that.
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>>61530940
holy shit that's a really high-level parody
...
source if it's legit
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The Rake's Progress, Threni, Requiem Canticles are all good late period Stravinsky.
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Why would the mods sticky a thread for a literally who? Wipe the tears from your neckbeards, put back on your fedoras and go cry on reddit.
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anyone got links? lots of the stuff in the archive is dead
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>>61537884
just use rutracker newfag
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>>61537745
>I don't think so at all, Ravels application of classical forms in his compositions is why I admire and enjoy his music so much. A brilliant craftsman in the vein of Mozart, Brahms, Schoenberg, and Carter
Oh no, I meant that his way of working, reworking and rewriting a piece till it's completely waterproof, might on a superficial level make it seem like an ordinary craftsman, without any spark of imagination or genius. A talented magician, but not someone who actually can perform magic.

That said, his application of form and structure is actually why I enjoy him so much. For some reason I tend to value it more than free or improvisatory forms.
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>>61537864
You are right, one of the most influential classical composers and conductors of the second half of the 20th century doesn't really belong on this "music as a fashion accessory" site.
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Who will conduct Stravinsky, Schoenberg, Messiaen, or Ligeti as good as him today?

Salonen comes to mind, but that's it.
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>>61538063
I have loads of recordings of Stravinsky conducted by Robert Craft, I have no idea how "good" he is compared to others.
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>>61537912
rutracker is offline
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>hide all the shit threads
>board practically freezes
Lots of funny memers XD
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>>61538375
That's pretty much every board though.
Have you been to /tv/ lately? If you hide all meme threads, all /pol/ threads, all porn threads, all feet fetishist threads, all pedo threads, all internet celebrity threads, there's literally nothing left.

Memes were the worst thing to happen to 4chan.
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>>61538063
Salonen's definitely the new Boulez even if lacking in the shitposting demeanor
>>61538539
what killed 4chan is 1) GamerGate 2) The Fappening 3) whatever it's called the Cuckening I guess
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>>61538539
There's not even anything funny to 'bounce' off of, it's just total and utter sludgy slow-dripping diahorreah.
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>>61538166
Craft is pretty shit unfortunately but some of Stravinsky's late works have no better recording. Even some of the stuff recorded by Stravinsky himself is let down by poor musicians.
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Although I never thought of exploring his compositions just now, most of my Schoenberg, Debussy, Webern and Messiaen are all masterfully conducted by him. Truly a master.

What a terrible loss, may he rest in peace
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>>61538166
Craft was pretty darn good... but also dead.
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>>61539041
OH....
Damn.
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>>61538224
no it is not
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>>61539207
It's back!!!
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>>61535367
>Piece he did with Zappa
He conducted some of Zappa's work, I wouldn't consider that something "he did with Zappa." That's like saying "Here's a piece he did with Stravinsky" and linking to him conducting Rite of Spring.
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>>61538581
>gamer gate
Was it really important? I don't even got to know what exactly happened. I just know it's something with Anita and /v/. Did that really affect us?
>the fappening
Nah. It had no real concecuences.
>>
>>61539771
Both have tons of redditors and other kids coming here because "le censorship"
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>>61539771
>Did that really affect us?
You apparently weren't here when this happened. It was fucking everywhere.
And then people from reddit and stuff started pouring in, because 4chan was GG central. Thankfully moot decided to stop it, so they moved back to reddit and 8gag.

I can remember when /v/tards came here are cried, just imagine if feminist decided to attack your music, and tried to make a music GG out of every p4k review. And I was just there thinking to myself, that this idiots never read any feminist criticism of entire romanticism.

And fappening was just that, but even more. It's like project chanology but even worse.
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>>61539911
>and tried to make a music GG out of every p4k review.
you mean literal #musicgate
>>
>>61539927
>#musicgate
Was that an actual thing? I remember that people were offended by various reviews on p4k, but most of them died down pretty quickly.
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>>61539953
http://4archive.org/board/mu/thread/54623801
Oh okay found it. I was referring to this, just never knew this was referred as #musicgate.
Man that was probably the most retarded thing on /mu/ last year.
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>>61539990
they don't like to admit it but every time they do that it's exclusively teenagers/manchildren posting.
only kids would get so butthurt over articles
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>>61540026
That's the truth tbqh.

I'm mostly replying to bump this thread.
>>
Sources:
>>61530925
http://www.newyorker.com/magazine/2000/04/10/the-godfather

>>61530940
http://www.musicandliterature.org/features/2015/10/28/away-from-the-big-cities-brmorton-feldman-interviewed-by-jean-yves-bosseur
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>>61535367
lmao
>>
>>61537375
Great
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>>61529600
literally who
>>
>>61537574
True
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>>61537458
>actually implying Debussy wasn't far far more innovative and just generally a better composer all round.
ayy lmao
>>
is this one of those unlistenable 20th century composers who wrote dissonant music full of screeching violins for balding, severe men in turtlenecks to muse over like math equations?

i'm sorry he's dead, but wew, i will not be honoring his memory by listening to his music.
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>>61539771
>Was it really important? I don't even got to know what exactly happened.
To this day no one knows exactly what 'Gamer gate' actually was. There were lots of butt mad virginal /v/ posters sending death threats to Sarkeesian and others, but what were they mad about? God only knows.
>>
>>61541484
>i will not be honoring his memory by listening to his music
yeah, too busy listenning to k-pop-shite, amirite??
>>
>>61541176
pitchfork and anthony pls go
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>>61541999
nice dubs and nah i bet it's more like indie shit and meme rap.
>>
>>61541484
I'm so sorry friend, you have a case of the utterly, irredeemable, ignorant plebitus.
but no, his music is not particularly dissonant. it's post-tonal, but I wouldn't characterize all his music as particularly difficult. try his first piano sonata, it's rather Messiaen like https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=xmpvx16qGJU .
>>
Why hasn't this been sticky yet
>>
>>61542209
because /mu/ is filled with underage or just barely 18 year old's who only listen to butt-indie, drone p4k, the needledrop and like meme rap. There's only a small selection of people who browse/post on here that have actually decent taste. The rest, like mentioned before, have shit taste. Just look at this board. It's filled to the brim with non-ironic appreciation of fucking k-pop, butt-indie and meme rap. The lewronggeneration crowd, the tumblr and reddit crossover and the influx of other board has made this board a generic cesspool of music discussion. Granted, it's still better than most outlets; say like /r/music. But nonetheless, this board has always has had bad taste and it remains so today.
>>
Anons, it's the perfect time to make a flowchart/how to get into Boulez (I don't know his body of work enough to make one myself).
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>>61542342
part 2: meant to also say. don't be surprised if this does not get a sticky. If one of the arctic monkey members passed away, then yes. Someone who did something important to music like Pierre Boulez. Maybe. It's quite sad.
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>>61542359

Just start with these:
>>61529769
>>61529821
>>
bumpo
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>>61542359
nobody needs a flowchart, it's the most lazy and disrespectful way to listen to music that I can imagine. just fucking listen to his music or don't.
>>
Easily the most important musician after 1950
>>
At least, several of his works are available in the archive.
>>
muh tone row!
>>
>>61531391
no-one *on /mu/* knows who this bloke is.
Thats because /mu/ is mostly popular music plebs.

>>61532340
>>61532617
>>61532881
>>61537864
>>61541176
>>61541484
case and point.

"Who is Boulez?" The words of someone who doesn't know a thing about 20th century music.

Its fine, go back to your death grips, NMH and kanye threads, nothing to see here. You wouldn't get the music or understand his influence. You probably dont know who Bartok, Messiaen or Elliott Carter are either.
>>
>>61540518
thanks for the source for the feldman interview - I was skeptical that it was genuine, but wow...he knew what he was talking about
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>>61544908
a: boo!
b: LEZ!
a:lezzzzzbooooooians?
b:heheheheheheh
>>
bump fer fuycks sake
>>
Pierre will live on forever
>>
OK FAGOTS REC ME SOME GOOD BOULEZ
and/or BOULEZ RANKINGS
>>
>>61548157
Pli selon Pli
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=i4c7gogNWDE
>>
DO YOU FAGGOTS EVEN MARTEAU SAN MAITRE?
KNOW WHAT IM SAYIN?
AAAAAGGHHHHHHHHHHHHHHH
>>
B O U L E Z
O
U
L
E
Z

IMMA FUCK IT LIKE A TONE ROW
>>
fucking
CEREALISM
bitches
>>
RIP, the last giant of modern music
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i heare tay tay was posting in this thread
>>
paying my respect
>>
bump for the greatest
>>
mfw 250 posts and still no sticky
>>
sticky when?
>>
finally listenned to "Le marteau sans maître" good stuff

It's funny how it reminds me some bits of the Yellow Submarine OST by George Martin...
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>>61529600
MIND = BLOWN
I thought it's just another crap 'chan prank
It's not, RIP. The last significant composer.
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>>61555400
There's hundreds of significant composers working today.
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>>61529648
and I was more sad about Lemmy's death T. B. H.
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>>61555476
like who?
Part? Naah. Kurtág? Pfff. Salonen? Nope. And these are best of the best.
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>>61555482

shit taste senpai
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>>61555476
but Boulez was more a conductor than a composer
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>>61555559
>patriarchy
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>>61555568
I bet all these cowards didn't even smoke crack
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>>61555555
>>
>>61529600
How do into Boulez familia?
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>>61555559
Furrer
Fujikura
Resch
Pintscher
Dufourt
Posadas
Jarrell
Lang (Klaus, Bernard, David)
Mantovani
André
Adés
Kalitzke
Globokar
Rehnqvist
Haas
Sciarrino
Lachenmann
Saunders
Hosokawa
Fitkin
Finnissey
etc.

Probably not significant to you, granted.
>>
rip
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>>61557339
>Probably not significant to you
Why are they significant to you? Explain in 30 secs or else I will kill you.
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>>61555632
No
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>>61557180
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=u8d24YpJNvw
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=EmErwN02fX0
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=W56pQqEVetA
>>
>>61561804
also https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=MS82nF85_gA

if it's too much to take in, just listen to a few movements at a time
>>
>>61561804
>>61561836
Thanks!
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>>61561804
>https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=W56pQqEVetA
Man Pli selon pli is fucking amazing.
Not the guy you're responding to, but I've only heard Le Marteau Sans Maitre, and actually Pli selon Pli is I think (this is my first listen) better.
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>>61557339
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