i get what he's saying, but surely he could have had the foresight to know those 5 options before they "retired." that's what makes the farewell seem like a cash grab. i am looking forward to new music however.
>>61513163 i don't even listen to them but from what i'm able to gather they had a massive farewell tour and made a live album and a documentary and everything about it i dunno maybe if i was a fan of the band it'd be different but as far as i'm concerned coming back like half a decade after all of that seems like a dick move of the highest order
They had such a god-tier run and ended it perfectly, before things got stale or shitty or boring, but now James Murphy is broke and there's zero interest in his other projects so the boys are back in town. Ruining it man
good on him making money off rich hipsters who have shit taste in music. Loved the documentary was funny, guy is the average loser who got lucky. he shouldn't have quit in the first place. he has zero talent whatsoever, besides making music for ppl who can't dance. hope the new album is decent.
>>61513163 Long story short LCD are the ACDC of Indie Rock, if only second to Animal Collective. Their second album as extremely popular, even breaking into the mainstream. Their third record was a self proclaimed "victory lap." It also marked the end of the group and as someone else said there was an HBO special made about it.
Fast forward a short time later they're having a "reunion" tour and releasing a new record.
Think what Jay-Z did with the Black Album but with an Indie Rock band.
>>61513139 I have formatted it in a more readable fashion. Bare with me. It will be in a few parts.
Let’s just start this thing finally with some clarity. I write songs all the time. Sometimes they’re just weird songs I sing while changing a baby, or songs about annoying things that I sing to myself, or to friends while sitting at a bar, or about Christmas, or New York. Sometimes these songs live in my head for years and have verses upon verses added to them, almost infinitely. Sometimes they’re just ghosts of ideas, and sometimes they’re fully-formed things which float in front of me, seeming like they’d be easy to make flesh, only to fight furiously as soon as I try to pin them down in any way. Some of them I make with friends in a room with instrument things. Only a tiny fraction of these ever become Songs; get recorded, feel like something that should be shared. Those ones, I write the title or some lyrics of down on a page in a little book I carry around. Or I sing a bit of them into a tape recorder (or now a phone, I guess). I’ve been doing this since I was a kid. Early in 2015, I realized I had more of those than I’d ever had in my life. More of them than when I went in to make any LCD record, or when I recorded tapes upon tapes of terrible things in high school. Just loads of them, and I found myself a little perplexed. If I record them, what do I do with them? Maybe I shouldn’t record them at all? I considered that, which was in a way the easiest option, but it also seemed like a weird and arbitrary (and sort of cowardly) cop-out. But to record them—well then, suddenly I have, what—a record?
So I asked pat and Nancy to come over to my apartment for coffee and told them: “I’m going to record some music. Should I make up a band name, or make a “James Murphy” record, or should it be LCD?” we all thought a good amount about it. We have had lives for the past 5 years, which has been nice, and those guys have made amazing music with Museum Of Love, the Juan MacLean, and all sorts of other things. I’d managed to do a bunch of fun, dumb stuff which mostly annoyed people who were into the band because, well, subway turnstiles and a coffee aren’t LCD, basically.
At any rate, they both said “let’s make an LCD record”. You see, if they didn’t want to, which I’d half assumed, then there’s no such thing as LCD. Imagine this: me making a record, calling it LCD, and then you go to the show and there’s just some guy playing drums over there, or some other person playing keyboards. Horrifying. Then imagine this: I make a “James Murphy” record, or, I don’t know, an “everteen” record, or whatever made-up name I come up with, and there’s pat playing drums, and Nancy. Maybe al isn’t too busy with hot chip so he comes to play. What the fuck is that? Here were our choices: 1. make music with your friends and call it something else, which seems hilarious (everteen) or egomaniacal to the point of sociopathic (James Murphy solo record).
2. Make music, but WILLFULLY EXCLUDE your friends because of the horrors in option 1.
3. Make an LCD record with your friends, who want to make said record, and deal with whatever fall-out together.
4. Don’t make music, to avoid the horrors of all of the above.
>>61513163 They had a massively promoted farewell show at MSG. LCDS fans are hardcore about the band. So people payed a lot of money for tickets (even more if it was from scalpers), traveled a long way, etc. for the show thinking they'd never have another chance. Then they made a documentary about the farewell show and a live album and just kinda made it seem like it was a big deal. Now they're back in less than 5 years.
I don't think anyone is "mad." Like he said in the note, it's more people who are HUGE fans are love that they're back, but just feel that the spectacle was cheapened. I wasn't there, but I get it.
>>61513281 We decided, clearly, on option 3, and I was fully prepared for a certain amount of “oh fuck that guy” over-it stuff—in fact welcomed it. It’s strangely energizing to have people who don’t make music themselves take pot-shots at you from the internet. and there’s always been a current of O.F.T.G. with me (I’m saying me and not us because, let’s be honest… no one hates anyone else in LCD, partially because they’re unhateable, and also because they have the wisdom to not shoot their mouths off nearly as much), and that’s just fine. I’m pretty used to it, and find it relatively funny. But in my naiveté I hadn’t seen one thing coming: there are people who don’t hate us at all, in fact who feel very attached to the band, and have put a lot of themselves into their care of us, who feel betrayed by us coming back and playing. Who had travelled for or tried to go to the MSG show, and who found it to be an important moment for them, which now to them feels cheapened. I just hadn’t considered that. I know—ridiculous on my part
I saw some comments online a few days ago from people who felt that way, and it blindsided me, and made me incredibly sad. I saw some other people replying with stuff like “if that’s what you cared about, and you don’t want them to play anymore, maybe you liked the band for pretty weird reasons”, and it made me think. The truth is, while I get what the replier is saying, I kind of side with the original complaint: if you cared a lot about our band, and you put a lot of yourself into that moment (or anything about us you chose), and you feel betrayed now, then I completely understand that. It’s your right to define what you love about a band, and it’s your right to decry their actions and words as you see fit, because it’s you, frankly, who have done much of the work to sustain that relationship, not the band. I was so clearly expecting the cynical cries of foul, that I hadn’t seen the heartfelt complaint coming.
>>61513311 We’ve always talked about how we’d never betray anyone who cares about us, but here we are now. Given the chance again to make new music with the people I care about, and who have given a big part of their lives to doing this weird thing together, and who wanted to do it again, I took it. And in doing so, I betrayed whoever feels betrayed by that action. I by no means think that everyone who liked our band feels bad right now. A lot of people who liked our band are very happy, and we’ve been pretty blown away by the almost overwhelmingly positive response.
Last night I sat with Al and Nancy in a weird Italian bar and we talked about how fucking awesome it was that so many people were happy to have us back. But that doesn’t take away from those who feel hurt. To you I have to say: I’m seriously sorry. The only thing we can do now is get back into the studio and finish this record, and make it as fucking good as we can possibly make it. It needs to be better than anything we’ve done before, in my mind, because it won’t have the help of being the first time. And we have to play better than we’ve ever played, frankly. Every show has to be better than the best show we’ve played before for anyone to even say “well, that was good. I mean, not as good as they used to be. But, you know. It was good.” we know all that. Which is healthy for us, because it means we go back to war, like in the beginning. For us it was always war, but now it’s really with ourselves. Maybe we have a chance to make it right.
In other, more pedantic news: we’re not just playing Coachella. We’re playing all over. We’re not just having some reunion tour. We’re releasing a record (sometime this year—still working on it, actually), so this isn’t a victory lap or anything, which wouldn’t be of much interest to us. this is just the bus full of substitute teachers back from their coffee break with new music and the same weird gear—or as much of it as we still have (it’s very interesting to re-buy the same gear, and in some cases buy gear BACK from people you sold it to), and rambling around trying to be louder than everyone else. Thank fuck we were never skinny and young. Or at least I wasn’t.
That always happens with bands… they aren’t fat when they come back, typically, just, I don’t know, thicker. I was lucky to start this band kind of fat and old, so there’s no, like “look how YOUNG they were!” shit to even find on the internet. I mean, we were younger and everything, but we weren’t young, if you know what I mean. One last note: thank you to everyone who has been absurdly kind to us over the past 14 (!) years. If you have moved on and don’t like us anymore, that’s obviously ok, too. But please, if we ever gave you any joy, just find something new and good that blows you away, and post it on our Facebook page or something with, like, “hey fuck you guys! This is the REAL shit!” so we can hear new good stuff. That would be the best for all of us.
I don't envy the amount of pressure he is under to make a good album.
Surely it cannot be as good as we hope. He has a perfect track record so there's no reason why not, but this time he has years of hype. If he just dropped an album without anybody knowing I think it would be much better received.
>>61513281 welp thanks for letting me know, that he just wants our money again. if he seriously cared about making music for the fans, they could have released some tracks on soundcloud or youtube. even while on hiatus
>>61513549 welp guess it's fame then. but still I'd really wish he would go the aphex twin route and just release shit for free on sc for us fans. even if it's demos or outtakes instead of the obvious attention seeking shit hes doing now. don't see why he has to be so dramatic over an album that will most likely be bad.
Ok all the betrayal aside I can't brush the feeling this is going to be like Hesitation Marks. At least we had Trent's soundtrack work and HTDA to know more or less were he was going, Murphy only produced some records which I think frankly it's not a real big indicator of anything. Or it could be he wants to make LCD go full nu-disco like Reflektor?
>>61513790 >Or it could be he wants to make LCD go full nu-disco like Reflektor? That would be incredible. If this was the Speaking in Tongues to This is Happening's Remain in Light (minus the awful production because it's James Murphy), I think I'd be okay with that.
>>61514638 >The only thing we can do now is get back into the studio and finish this record, and make it as fucking good as we can possibly make it. It needs to be better than anything we’ve done before, in my mind, because it won’t have the help of being the first time. And we have to play better than we’ve ever played, frankly. Every show has to be better than the best show we’ve played before for anyone to even say “well, that was good. I mean, not as good as they used to be. But, you know. It was good.” we know all that. Which is healthy for us, because it means we go back to war, like in the beginning.
>>61513262 Why do I feel LCD are the kind of the band that can do no wrong in the music press? James Murphy can take a piss on a drum machine and be heralded as the most greatest indie ting ever. The whole documentary on the last show seems so pretentious. "victory lap" sounds very appropriate. I enjoy LCD Soundsystem, I do, but I guess I cringe at times at the reverence they receive. It seems manufactured.
>>61515575 Right place at the right time. James is very agreeable guy that wears his love for his city on his sleeve, LCD Soundsystem was a VERY important staple of the New York City indie/hipster scene or whatever you want to call it in the 2000s, coincidently where all these music writers spent their glory days. The music combined all the elements of rock and electronic and sincerity and cynicism and humor and seriousness that was floating around at the time. I think to a lot of these people, this band specifically represents that time and place, not that they were the best but that they "embodied" the feeling of the period well in almost a symbolic way. Until this current generation of writers moves on and a new generation takes their place, LCDS will probably always be revered as something larger than they are. Not that I dislike them, I think they're great, but I never got the godlike status people put on them.
if they don't tour the UK then they can go fuck themselves, americentric scum
found out about them a week after they broke up and I've been going through pains of knowing I'll never see my favourite band live, so they better tour the UK and not just festival hop, but actually do like a date in london, manchester and birmingham would be sound
>>61513139 James Murphy had many new songs stuck in his head and wated to make them, met with bandmates and they decided to bring back LCD, full tour, new album this year, apologies to people who went to final show and feel bad about reunion
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