I've already known it for a while and I like it. I have no idea how to keep up in today's modern folk metal scene, back in the day people used to discuss stuff all the time in Slsk chatrooms, now torrenting killed everything.
Never heard it, thanks. And I recommend listening to Ensiferum - Victory Songs, it's not as good as the first two but still fucking good, has some great ambience thanks to the non-metal instruments and incredible songs like Blood is the Price of Glory.
I love 1184 and Windir, the others I've never listened to. Thanks! As for genre bullshit, I don't care, even Falconer, Blind Guardian or Children of Bodom sort of qualifies for me though I prefer if it's folky in the same way.
>>61508572 I feel you. I saw them live this summer, and besides Lai Lai Hei, Treacherous Gods and some From Afar songs they only sang shit from the new album and the mixing was horrible. They were one of the biggest bands in the fest and I expected them to sound a lot better than the co-headliners (the sound engineers didn't give two shits about non-headliners). It was a huge disappointment, I don't know why everyone was so hyped about it. Even the vocals sounded awful.
For me it was the opposite. I used to listen to them and folk metal, power metal pretty much a lot of melodic metal, then 5 years ago I kind of stopped. Now I'm listening to them again and the music hits me so hard it's like a drug, it takes me to happy places whereas before I was miserable. Combined with playing Mount&Blade it's awesome. Saw them live as well on the From Afar tour, don't remember it too well though except that I was moshing.
Has anyone ever told you that you're a fucking tryhard edgelord faggot, and should get the fuck off my screen? No? Well there you go. You're not even posting something remotely relevant, and Ukraine is a joke of a country. Get out, dipshit.
Nokturnal Mortum - The Voice of Steel, an album which while good, isn't comparable at all to Ensiferum. It's like I'm posting about Metallica and this retard comes in "durrr Metallica is shit, listen 2 Darkthrone bro!"
>>61508958 >not him but it's a better folk metal album
Sure thing buddy. It's not comparable at all, it's like comparing Forbidden Evil to Darkness Descends and blathering about how Darkness Descends is "better". To each their own but to me and to the majority of metal listeners it looks like Ensiferum is better, not your edgelord poser opinion.
How is this even Folk Metal? What's "folk" about this? Who am I kidding, I'm talking to a /mu/ drone from 2009, you have no real opinions or thought process you just parrot what everyone says, just like you dropped those meme albums. Sad, go and re-evaluate your shit taste please and leave my threads alone.
>>61508988 >using the term poser unironically Holy shit, you're literally a walking stereotype. Also you're judging what's better over what the majority likes. Is that no different than the pop music you hate on on?
>>61509011 You do realize for all the /mu/drones who parrot Agalloch, there's hundreds more metalheads who parrot Ensiferum, right? Even then I listened to Agalloch before /mu/ was even a thing. I've been into folk metal since the 90s, and even then Agalloch is literally the one band I posted that gets somewhat recognized here.
If you're so knowledgeable on your "folk metal", you should be able to explain how it isn't.
>>61509054 >Is that no different than the pop music you hate on
I don't hate on pop music because I'm not a tryhard edgelord faggot that tries to shit on others and prove what a cool grimdark opinion I have
>You do realize for all the /mu/drones who parrot Agalloch, there's hundreds more metalheads who parrot Ensiferum, right?
The difference is the /mu/ drones are disingenuous frail little posers (yes I use that term unironically because it describes them perfectly), while the Ensiferum fans that turn up to shows genuinely enjoy their music. Crucial difference because I also made this thread since I was excited about the music, not your edgelord shitposting.
>Have some more folk metal better than Ensiferum.
Either your taste or your ability to understand what I like about this music is shit because you're posting crap and not even the right albums by those bands. You sound like a fucking retard and a deadbeat so I'll leave it at that. While you're at it go tell Blind Guardian fans how much better Omen or Manilla Road is, yeah you seem like that kind of imbecile.
Who did they influence besides the other emo shit you posted? I can't trace a genealogy of folk metal but none of the early nordic folk/viking bands like Storm, Mithotyn or Einherjer sound anything to me like Bergtatt, if anything it sounds like they were inspired by Enslaved, Batlord, and, gee what a surprise, their local folk music. You must be an American retard for whom "folk" means anything with acoustic guitars
>>61509122 >I don't hate on pop music because I'm not a tryhard edgelord faggot that tries to shit on others and prove what a cool grimdark opinion I have But you do have an incredibly thin skin if you get this fucking angry and defensive about people who've obviously explored the genre more than you try to tell you that Ensiferum really is nothing compared to the rest of said genre. Ensiferum is babby's first folk metal. Rather than actually playing folk or resonating with folk themes, they appeal to children and teenagers with "epic viking battle" fantasies.
>The difference is the /mu/ drones are disingenuous frail little posers (yes I use that term unironically because it describes them perfectly), while the Ensiferum fans that turn up to shows genuinely enjoy their music. Crucial difference because I also made this thread since I was excited about the music, not your edgelord shitposting. Are you this delusional? You asked /mu/ to name better folk metal bands and I posted what I consider better folk metal bands. It's like calling me a shitposter for walking into a fucking tim hortons and ordering a coffee.
> Either your taste or your ability to understand what I like about this music is shit because you're posting crap and not even the right albums by those bands. You sound like a fucking retard and a deadbeat so I'll leave it at that. While you're at it go tell Blind Guardian fans how much better Omen or Manilla Road is, yeah you seem like that kind of imbecile. Blind Guardian is one of the best power metal bands of all time, next to helloween, x-japan and galneryus, lad. Why would I hate them?
>>61509153 You do realize something being influential doesn't necessarily mean that it impacted the entire sound, right? Ulver was one of the first metal bands to use folk instrumentation. Folk metal prior to Ulver was just proto-black metal with folk themes.
>>61509183 Nothing shoegaze about it. It's literally just folk metal with tremolo picking.
>>61509222 >about people who've obviously explored the genre more than you
>Ensiferum really is nothing compared to the rest of said genre
You've yet to show me anything "better"
>Ensiferum is babby's first folk meta
idem. Or maybe these bands are so prominent because they're good and genre defining, ever think about that, dipshit?
>Rather than actually playing folk or resonating with folk themes, they appeal to children and teenagers with "epic viking battle" fantasies.
There's so much wrong with this statement I don't even know where to begin. But just consider that the first Enslaved album which is also the first viking metal album was literally and I mean literally children and teenagers with epic viking battle fantasies. If that doesn't appeal to you you're trying to lecture me about the wrong genre.
>Blind Guardian is one of the best power metal bands of all time, next to helloween, x-japan and galneryus, lad. Why would I hate them?
Because you sound like an edgelord faggot who tries to hate on anything popular in favor of more obscure grimdark shit that doesn't even sound anything like it. Also Blind Guardian and Ensiferum have a lot of similarity in guitar melodies and the lead guitar sound, for example the solos on Mirror Mirror would fit right in on the Ensiferum s/t. Liking one and not the other screams cognitive dissonance to me.
>You do realize something being influential doesn't necessarily mean that it impacted the entire sound, right? Ulver was one of the first metal bands to use folk instrumentation. Folk metal prior to Ulver was just proto-black metal with folk themes.
Retarded statement but I'll bite anyway since I'll argue about anything. Influential means influential to the genre, how else can you possibly define it. Wrong on first band to use folk instrumentation (what instrumentation? acoustic guitars?), that was Skyclad, and before that there was this entire fucking genre called uhh FOLK ROCK that Storm even literally lifted riffs from. And who cares who was "first" (not that Ulver was), what matters is who was best. Otyg is another late 90s great.
Again you sound like a dumb American with no knowledge or appreciation of European folk music that this music is supposed to be based in, it's SUPPOSED TO BE happy spurdo metal. If you don't believe me here's the original of that Leshak song, which was a cover
>>61509354 Plenty of the bands I've posted are happy or at least uplifting. If this doesn't pump you up I don't know what will.
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=9XVATLAuYWU https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=p4ZzqWhvOVA >I've seen a million other shitposters like you trying to push their special snowflake and way off the mark shit Nothing I've posted is remotely obscure, though.
>>61509341 >If I wanted something fast or energetic I'd listen to these.
apparently you're also tineared since neither of those songs have tempos as fast as these
why do literal retards feel the need to impose their opinions on others? I wouldn't take book recommendations from kids in a special ed class, why do you think I should listen to you? shut up and fuck off
>Why? The notion of cramming as much ideas into a song as possible just doesn't sound good to me.
Oh, so now it's "too many notes, sire"? Look who's the plebshit now. Well it sounds good to me because I have a more developed brain than yours and I can handle all those ideas at once and they stimulate me in their coherence and congruence as a Gesamtkunstwerk, unlike the monotony which you seem intent on posting. But to each his own; simple minds, simple pleasures. :)
>>61509451 You're onto something. Now pull memes out of your ass and twist babby's first and plebshit into "EVERYTHING POPULAR IS BAD" like you always do.
>>61509468 How is this a competition on which has the fastest tempos? Nokturnal Mortum is pure primal, proud energy.
>Oh, so now it's "too many notes, sire"? Look who's the plebshit now. Well it sounds good to me because I have a more developed brain than yours and I can handle all those ideas at once and they stimulate me in their coherence and congruence as a Gesamtkunstwerk, unlike the monotony which you seem intent on posting. But to each his own; simple minds, simple pleasures. Are you joking?
>>61509494 >Nokturnal Mortum is pure primal, proud energy.
Are we talking like gay pride here? The kind of prine Urinians will use to try to differentiate themselves from Putin's evil anti-homosex government and attach themselves to "Western democracy"?
>Are you joking?
Dead fucking serious. Every time I see someone ragging on a band I like and that a lot of intelligent people I know also like I figure they must be deadbeats who can't comprehend it, which is what it seems like since champion simplistic music with soulless melodies and when I see them IRL they usually are deadbeats.
>>61507475 Howdy OP, you seem to be confused! The album which you posted is not a folk metal album, but a melodeath album with some folk instrumentation. No worries, I'm here to help. You know what they always say haha, sharing is caring!
>>61509550 Ensiferum use catchy pop melodies and hooks. There's nothing to really understand or wrap your head around because they're relatively straight forward. Forgive me since I'm leaving the folk theme, but if you want metal that's really complex you might want to listen to this.
oh and there's also an Ensiferum album on your collage, retard
>>61509590 >Ensiferum use catchy pop melodies and hooks.
haha good one. Yeah I can hear the clear similarity between Hero in a Dream and Genie in a Bottle, you got me. show me some pop music that sounds like Ensiferum and I might actually start listening to pop music again, not that there's anything wrong with pop music (and I lurvs me some Gigi D'Agostino)
>>61509621 >kill yourself promptly, I can't stand the idea of you inhabiting the same Earth as me
Haha chap! I know 9gag has filled your head with rumors that 4chan is an edgy place for edgy people like yourself but that's no need to be mean! I'm just a regular 4chan citizen educating the lower masses like yourself! Now sit down
>>61509642 Do you lack basic reading comprehension? I said that Ensiferum uses catchy pop melodies. Of course there's no pop music that sounds like Ensiferum but a pop melody is literally any simple melody that's designed to be catchy and hook people in. That's the entire basis of all melodeath, including Ensiferum which is pretty much folk melodeath.
glad you got your degree from Julliard's to tell me that shit
complete assbabble, hey here's a thought, have you noticed how FOLK music which is music of the FOLK is also catchy and simple? gee what a coincidence that FOLK METAL should be the same
not that the melodies in Ensiferum are simple at all, if you've ever tried playing them, and they're definitely leagues above the 4-note shit in black metal that also resurfaces in a lot of what you've posted but oh that's not "simple", that's "minimalist"
it's too bad that the kind of kool-aid you've drunk can't kill you, because I wouldn't have to give myself carpal tunnel just to order you over and over again to kill yourself with expedience
I never understood why people get so obsessed over definitions. Folk Metal is a broad genre and it includes everything from the happy party folk Korpiklaani to the much darker stuff like Saor or Ulver's first. What people like in there is preference. I mostly prefer the latter, but why do you folks care so much? It's not like anyone confessed to liking Alestorm.
Now that would be truly terrible. >>61509729 Check out my chart and the one I linked. Disregard who posted it, I compiled it with a bunch of anons a while ago.
>>61509729 >ave you noticed how FOLK music which is music of the FOLK is also catchy and simple? gee what a coincidence that FOLK METAL should be the same all you've confirmed is you know absolutely nothing about folk music subgenres. Was being retarded part of your plan, big guy?
>>61509789 The best part is everything you've posted I've already heard. Why would I post anything when you've blown off all of my previous folk metal recommendations without even listening to them?
Given your head up your ass behavior from earlier you'll blow it away in the first place, hide in your safe space like a twitter feminist, and call every dissenting opinion/recommendation "shitposting".
what are you talking about? you said you already heard those songs I've posted, which is a clear lie since they're obscure and particular artists and songs from Romania, Russia and Karelia (also Russia). it's factually incorrect and you're a posing faggot, how about actually listening to them and you might learn what folk music is about
> Why would I bother wasting the time searching for the best folk in my library
just post whatever comes to mind like I did, it's an invitation for you to show me what the fuck you're about and try for me to understand you; you know, COMMUNICATION, exchange of ideas
>you're just going to blow it off 30 seconds
that's what you get for shitting on my favourite bands faggot
>>61509931 >which is a clear lie since they're obscure pic related
>COMMUNICATION, exchange of ideas Communication worked out just fine considering I've posted an entire list of 10 minute songs and you respond less than 5 minutes later generalizing them and calling them "special snowflake and way off the mark shit". Hypocritical no?
nice try child, you don't even know where to put the diacritics in Ion Drăgoi's name
if you're insinuating you've heard of these people I've posted before like you laughably are, go ahead and name some more like them. should be easy since you must be deeply into this kind of music, right?
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