Why doesn't Roland, Yamaha, Korg, ect reproduce classic synths with true ceramic electronics instead of just putting out shitty emulators.
I mean I can go out right now and buy a brand new 2015 (2016 is not out yet) Gibson Custom shop 1957 Les Paul, that will be almost exactly like one that came out of the factory almost 60 years ago.
but they do put out hardware versions of older stuff... If they were to put out exact replications with the same kind of caps and all it would cost a ton. having like 3 expensive bits in the wiring of a LP is not a big deal by comparison
i know but from a price point making an accurate old synth these days would cost a lot. look at that stupid moog system 15 thats like 10K. not to mention some old electronics have mercury canisters in them and that shit just wouldnt fly these days
Moog could have made it cheaper if they used SMD like >>61502705 and >>61502675, the reason they did it discrete was for replica purposes. Also even at 10k it's still cheaper than it was in the 60s.
>if they used SMD
i agree. im just saying people often dont make things 100% accurate simply because the average person would rather pay a few hundred for a close replica over a ton for an exact one
The biggest cost I can see to building a classic synth is training a chinese factory worker to solder again.
hardly sounds like it could come close to the cost of a 9lb chunk of maple for a guitar body
I've looked into modern renditions of classics synths. The short answer is that its out there, if you're willing to put in time and money. The more popular analogue synths are often sold as DIY kits that you can build, or buy pre built for even more money. Not all the parts are exact, but they're close. So they're our there, they just cost a lot and are made by third parties.
Modular equipment (the ones that go in racks) is easier to find. The synths that included a keyboard are much harder. Hardly anyone will remake it with the board because midi controllers are so popular now, so people often clone and sell them are modular synths that require an external midi keyboard and conversion equipment (DAC).
You'd be better off trying to find a used one honestly, The market just isn't big enough for people to bother making them. If you're open to DIY, most of the diagrams of the electronics are available online, although many of the chips and components they use are no longer available
yep pic related and Aphex Twin both have
>If you're open to DIY, most of the diagrams of the electronics are available online
just for something to do over the winter break I built a few guitar stomp boxes, price wise I would have been better off going out and buying the thing. Oddly enough building 1, its better off to buy it, building 20+ costs about the same as buying 2.
Yeah, however, it takes a shit load of research to do something custom unless you're an electric engineer. If you're using a very specific guide or kit, you'll be ok as long as you can solder. I did both, a custom and a kit. The custom was actually cheaper, but it took months just to make a very basic one. The kit took an afternoon and works and sounds great. It's a combination of a digital and analog synth that is built around a special arduous chip.
tl;dr buy a kit
Any Gibson guitar made today is definitely not almost exactly like one that came out of the factory 60 years ago. Mass producing guitars on that scale definitely reduces the quality, just because it's difficult to do quality control on that massive scale.
If you want a synth with ceramic capacitors then just build one yourself.
basically means it emulates what made analog synths sound unique (i.e. osc drifting or certain filter characteristics etc)
usually never ends up being convincing enough to sound like an actual analog synth which is why virtual analogs get shit on by purists so often.
>I've only seen "virtual analog synths" that can
A few analog synths off the top of my head that can.
There is a guy in Germany who makes 808 clones. Roland could have done it, but their intent wasn't to make an 808 clone.