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>Most Shoegaze is really boring
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>Most Shoegaze is really boring
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>>61485395
Hating dadrock is petty and bullshit.
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Most of krautrock is unbearable

Not sure how unpopular but there is not enough good out of gothrock to justify its existence as a genre
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there is no reason to actively hate kanye or his music
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the beatles are shit
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.5 the Gray Chapter was a good album.
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>>61485406
>unpopuar
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souvlaki is better than loveless.
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LCD Soundsystem wasn't as special as people think they are
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/mu/ dismisses an absolute fuck tonne of good music.
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>>61485395

The bulk of any genre eventually becomes a worn out re-hash of the sound that came before it, but you don't have to like it all to enjoy ket bands like Cocteau Twins, Slowdive, MBV, and The Chameleons (who are kind of as boring as they are amazing, admittedly)
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>>61485395
I sort of agree, I think no shoegaze record is as noisy as Loveless, as dreamy as Souvlaki or as energetic as Nowhere

>>61485416
I agree, also
>MBDTF is not as good as College Dropout and Late Registration
>Yeezus was interesting

>>61485488
I don't "get" LCD Soundsystem

>>61485534
that's objectively true
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Penisberg & The Ding Dongs > Penis Poop Annihilators
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Memercury Rev is a terrible band.
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Anyone who says they like pre-meddle or post-final cut Pink Floyd is just being a contrarian
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Closure in Moscow > The Mars Volta
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Elephant was the best album of the 2000's.
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the majority of 80s hip-hop is unlistenable, save for Rakim and NWA
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Richey Edwards was an edge-lord and a lot of his lyrics were honestly shite and the Manic Street Preachers were better off without him
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>The clash is the worst first wave punk band

>American punk is mostly trash

>Folk punk, anti folk, oogles, pop punk, ska, ska anything is trash

>Henry rollings is trash
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>>61485406
I don't hate it
it just sounds kind of samey and tacky
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>ShadyXV is one of Eminems most underrated songs
>Vegas was a good one too
>Clearance parent have a real good marriage
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I like music
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>>61485668
u even heard any jamaican ska?

hthttps://www.youtube.com/watch?v=_StYP_A0YiQ
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Punk started in '74.
Raw Power is a glam rock album.
Twisted Sister is fun.
Portraits of Past are the greatest emo band of all time
Jawbreaker is the greatest punk album
AnCo is awful
Sunbather co-opts black metal for hipster casuals
The first SPK album is the greatest industrial album of all time
Jobriath made two of the best albums of the 70s
Pet Sounds may be the best album ever made
Charley Patton and Leadbelly are the greatest bluesmen
Badly Drawn Boy is one of the best songwriters of the last 20 years
So is Fiona Apple
Justin Timberlake is cool
Deathcrush is the best thing Mayhem ever did, and it's basically a noise rock EP
Discharge had a negative effect on crust punk
Circle Jerks are more enjoyable than Black Flag
Black Fag is the greatest cover band ever
Robert Quine is one of the greatest guitarists of all time
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>>61485714

you should be lynched
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>>61485550
You don't listen to much shoegaze do you

>>61485665
kek agree completely with the pic, and Richey was indeed a pussy ass deppressed ass edgelord, but he sure could write. The Holy Bible is still the best thing they did
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Pic related is the closest were ever going to get to a pop punk masterpiece
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>>61485586
Shotgun to head looks like the best method
How is "agony" calculated ?
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kim gordon's vocals are great
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>>61485728
Yes! Justin Timberlake is great
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>>61485714
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music has been significantly worse since 2012
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>>61485754
>what is Deja Entendu
>what is ...It's a Real Boy

>>61485776
2013 was the best 2010's year so far
2014 and 2015 were indeed very disappointing
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the beatles are boring
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>>61485802
"...It's a Real Boy"

may i use this as my album title
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>>61485416
there is no reason to actively hate any artist (in their function as an artist) or their music
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A Tribe Called Quest is extremely boring
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>>61485802
i agree with the 2013 comment. however the past couple of years have almost caused for me to completely ignore the release of new music
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Metalcore is incredibly underrated as a genre. While the complaints are definately valid and there is a lot of absolute shit in the genre. Once you get past the "noun the verb" stuff there actually a bunch of really enjoyable shit.

Then again, it very much depends on where your sensibilities lie I suppose
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>>61485728
>>61485668
>>61485586
>>61485488
>>61485452
>>61485406

> unpopular
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>>61485850

fuck off jack black you fat piece of shit
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Chinese Democracy was a 10/10 album.
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80s hiphop is enjoyable
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>>61485923
shut up bitch
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=roo6DeL-VEs
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>>61485923
it is but /mu/ cant into dance music
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>>61485965
There are constant hip hop threads.

Rap is still dance music, even today.
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post punk & noise rock are the only relevant genres of rock music
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>>61485728
How did discharge have a negative effect on crust punk?
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Soft Rock is actually good
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>>61486002
im talking about early 80s hip hop. disco and electro with raps thrown over it
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>>61485843
This. Lots of amazing bands in the genre.
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>>61486044

so is soft cock, not enough of it in porn
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>>61486051
So pretty much the same as now then.
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>>61485754

Not unpopular, just wrong
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>>61486054
I even find shit like August Burns Red and Northlane enjoyable.

Then again, I'm a huge pleb too.
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downtempo > idm
electro > techno
turntablism > rap
trad folk > contemporary folk
chamber music > orchestral
dixieland > free jazz
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>>61485614
I thought this was the general consensus anyway? Post-final cut is dire.
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>Grimes is ok
>Atom Heart Mother is best Floyd
>The Soft Bulletin>Pet Sounds
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The Afterman was absolutely fantastic and is easily Coheed and Cambria's best work.
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>>61486104
all of these YES
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>>61485802
deja entendu is like barely pop punk
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Coheed and Cambria barely have any prog in them. Worst modern 'prog' band other than these djent bands like Periphery who insist they're actually progressive.
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>>61486133
Nah senpai.
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>>61485395
this is true though. I'll go a step further and say even the major shoegaze releases aren't that good. it's a very stale genre that just masks mediocre pop songs in layers of effects. It's interesting for a one time listen but afterwards I'd rather just listen to ambient music.
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>>61485843
What sorta bands? I only really liked Botch and Converge who were labelled metalcore at the time (even though -core now is COMPLETELY different).

Modern bands like Parkway Drive are generic and boring as fuck.
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Being patrician means training yourself to like shitty music.
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Tago Mago > Ege Bamyasi > Future Days
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>>61486171
In terms of mainstream I really like August Burns Red and Northlane. The Devil Wears Prada's last 2 EPs were fantastic too.

This could very well be a "different strokes for different folks" sorta thing. I realize I'm going to be the fast minority on this one. I'd take Post-hardcore over metalcore any day of the week though.
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>>61485457
It's their best apart from Iowa, how is that an unpopular opinion?
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>>61486213
It's been universally accepted as shit here.
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>>61485614
>Meddle is Pink Floyd's best album
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>>61486222
It's undeniably good
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>>61486213

what the actual fuck did you say?
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>>61486210
Heard Northlane before, I'd say they're a step in the right direction but it's still not really my thing man. Kids around here are mental for the modern core stuff though.
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>>61486238
Not the guy you replied to but really? It sounds like phoned in garbage, even for modern Slipknot. At least All Hope is Gone had a couple of jams.
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>>61486071
It's not though.
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>>61486269
Fair enough, I've always kinda been a -core fag though so maybe it's just me.

I'd definately rec checking out TDWP Zombie and Space EPs though. I know a lot of people who can't stand metalcore that like them.
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>>61486302
Swap disco/electro for modern EDM loops and voila
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Centipede Hz is the best AnCo album.
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>>61486288
All Hope Is Gone was the worst £10 I ever spent on a new album
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>>61486352
>£10
>for any CD
you got ripped off big time
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>>61486365
HMV m8
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Despite being djent Periphery is incredibly worthwhile
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>>61486365
Yeah he did, HMV's prices literally trigger me.
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>>61486396
Djent is trash, Periphery are trash, try again.
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Kanye's best is 808s.
Illmatic sucks.
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>>61486406
>>61486387
Huh?

There's an HMV really near where I live in Sheffield and I could swear the prices have never been that high for a CD. That's daylight robbery
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>>61486207
true
tago mago>monster movie>ege bamyasi>futur days
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Trout Mask Replica is utter trash.

Since I Left You is boring and overrated.
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>>61485550
>Nowhere
>Energetic
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>>61486481
Mate I regularly see CDs in HMV for like £12 or £14 or something ridiculous. This is in Notts/Derby, so not even down south or anything.
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The King of Limbs is a great album
Amok is one of the best albums Thom Yorke ever made
Tyranny is the best album Julian Casablancas ever made, except Is This It
Jenny Death > Niggas on the Moon
Aphex Twin has only one good album
Reflektor is a good album
Streetlight Manifesto is a fantasstic band, but the ska-punk genre is shit in general
Metal and its subgenres are for angry kids
The Glow pt 2 is good but highly overrated
Random Access Memories is the 2nd best Daft Punk album
Talking Heads is shit
The Velvet Underground is shit
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Voodoo is the most boring album I've heard in my entire life.
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>>61486709
"Jenny Death > Niggas on the Moon"

this is an extremely popular opinion
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Captain Beefheart is highly overrated
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Thom Yorke is awful and seriously holds back Radiohead, who aren't even that great in the first place

LCD Soundsystem is a mediocre dance band

Arcade Fire are a bad stadium rock band

Frank Ocean is a terrible R&B musician

The Weeknd was never good
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>>61486984
>Thom Yorke is awful and seriously holds back Radiohead

in what sense
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Indie Bands with progressive/liberal ideologies in their music makes me cringe
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i dont see why anyone still cares about radiohead. anything they make at this point isnt gonna be better than anything theyve made
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Post-rock is the greatest innovation in music since The Beatles
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>worst Beach House album by a pretty considerable margin
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>>61487043

if you disregard all other music than those two things, maybe
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>>61486984
Someone doesn't like music at all
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>>61486351
This. Most people will never understand it but I'm totally with you.
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>>61487043
if you're over the age of 17 i'll eat my own butt
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I think The Prodigy are musical geniuses who were way ahead before their time.
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>>61485760

>I won't hurt you. As much as you hurt me.
GOAT desu
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>>61487116

>unpopular opinion
>literally everyone with sense thinks this
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Pearl Jam was one of the best rock bands in the mid 90's and start 00's and everyone who dismisses them as boring buttrock has only listened to their "hits" from Ten. Vitalogy, No Code and Binaural are at least 8/10 albums.

Isis' Panopticon is one of the top 10 metal albums of all time.

No punk album comes close to Bad Brains' debut.

Melvins are kinda boring.
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>>61486418
Wow you sure changed my mind.
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>>61487279
damn, first time i've seen someone on here that feels the same as me about pearl jam
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>>61485470
That opinion is held by everyone for whom Loveless hasn't clicked yet.
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>>61486114
it was good dawg, not anywhere near the first 3

here's one

Good Apollo Vol I. is one of the best prog records ever.
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>>61485395
>shoegaze
What kinda shoegaze we talkin' here? Whirr & Nothing suck. Too generic.
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>country music is more about pandering, commercializing and pushing ideology with actual music creation being little more of an after thought than any other genre
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>>61488954
I think that really applies to all music, there will always be people trying to push a sound for profit.

Country fans will tell you there's actually really good country, like hip-hop fans and pop fans will tell you there's actually really good shit in their respective genres.
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>>61485614
I get post-final cut but come on piper at gates of dawn, saucerful of secrets, atom heart mother, and ummagumma are all really good
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Bonobo just rips off Steve Reich and gamelan
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>>61488855
For me The Afterman is like a darker, more atmospheric IKSoSE:3. Idk why but it rubs me in all the right ways.
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>>61488804
Ditto. Life ain't easy for a Pearl Jam fan on /mu/
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Curve are better than both Slowdive and MBV.
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Young Thug is the best rapper alive
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>>61489284
i like you.
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>>61489319
I like you too.
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>>61485452
Abso-fucking-lutely
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>>61485407
>Not sure how unpopular but there is not enough good out of gothrock to justify its existence as a genre

How could you be so wrong?
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>>61487116
not that unpopular senpai
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>>61485754
I think this is, unfortunately, a very popular opinion senpai
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TPAB is shit and TPTB deserves AOTY

NOTM did everything TPAB did first and admittedly better

>ride has never said nigga or nigger once in his music, making the title purposefully ironic.

>"my terracotta army disarms me, disowns me" addresses the inferiority complex a lot of african americans have, letting made up bullshit become their biggest problem. this complex does not allow their kind to progress, which ties into the titular joke. there will never be a "nigga" on the moon.

>"you do what my people would grunt" is about how whites actually take the initiative to do things while blacks just get mad at them for doing said things.

>"support gravity, my people would" is about how blacks spend every waking moment of their lives bitching about how whitey keeps them down while still living on welfare.

pretty redpilled guy t︂b︂︂h
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>>61486709

So many shit opinions
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>>61491680
truth, NOTM was easily 2014 AOTY
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>>61485395
i'm glad it's just an opinion

i think pic related is a great album
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>>61489308
Who's the best dead rapper?
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trout mask replica is shit
neutral milk hotel is shit
talking heads is shit

the first xx album isn't awful
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if it wasn't for that shit at the end, I'll Be Your Mirror would be a contender for the best song on this album

also, for sure better than Pale Blue Eyes
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>>61485728
>anco is awful
I don't understand how anyone could think this but okay
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Porter Robinson is the best new artist of the decade so far

>>61485395
Seriously a top-heavy genre
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>>61492812
When I first started listening to the album, I thought the same exact thing. The live versions do help me 'accept' it more, though.
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>>61485737
Not that dude but

what shoegaze releases made you think otherwise?
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/mu/ cares more about popularity than about quality when judging music. Many people here can't appreciate good, yet simple rock music and try extremely hard to enjoy abrasive and/or unpopular music to impress other anons.
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>Metallica's black album is fucking amazing
>Sunn 0))) is boring and lame.
>Most noise sucks
>Pearl Jam is bland as fuck
>Venom did not create black metal, Bathory did
>Most of blink-182 is shit
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>>61493544
Well I'm not the guy you responded to but:

>noisy
A Place to Bury Strangers - s/t
Flying Saucer Attack - s/t
Heute-Und - Peninsula EP
Goslings - Grandeur of Hair

>dreamy
Lovesliescrushing - Bloweyelashwish
Landing - Sphere
Windy & Carl - Drawing of Sound

>energetic
The Ecstasy of Saint Theresa - Pigment EP
Moonshake - First EP
Kinoko Teikoku - Eureka
Kairon IRSE - Ujubasajuba
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>>61485550
>I don't "get" LCD Soundsystem
it's pretty much music for aging hipsters
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>>61485452
all together sure, but their solo work is pretty bombin, especially georges
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Indie rock as a whole is garbage
Most dad rock is generic and boring
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>>61493888
shit I forgot all about Kairon, sweet. There's something to be said between shoegaze and using it as an element like in Ujubasajuba though.

How do you feel about Ceres and Calypso ?
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98.12.28 > Uchu Nippon Setagaya > Long Season > Neo Yankee's Holiday

Everything else is bad.
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>>61494282
I really like it, I would have included it in the list but it's considered more dream pop than shoegaze as far as I know. Their tropical production style is very unique and well done.
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If you like music from Japan but aren't Japanese, you are a weeaboo.
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>>61494420
I like music from most countries, not just Japan and America. Disregarded music based on nationality is idiotic
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Indy rock is for fags
Edm is hipster tier
Rap is just meme shit now

I don't like listening to music anymore, I just stare at pictures.
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>>61485586
>getting hit by a train
>17.9 minute duration
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>>61485728
how can someone think Pet Sounds is the best album ever made and NOT like AnCo
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>>61485759
Amount of pain, physical and emotional probably. They can't give shotgun to head or hit by train 0 agony just in case some pain is actually felt but there is no way to be sure how much you actually feel since everyone who has tried it succeeded.
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>>61494484

How's the Papau New Guinea music scene?
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>>61485395

If the song doesn't have a unique tune that can be recognized from being whistled then it's not real music.
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>HTTT is my favorite Radiohead album
>808's is my favorite Kanye album
>Among My Swan is my favorite Mazzy Star album
>Good Morning, Captain is not one of Spiderland's better songs
>Post-Wish Cure albums are not nearly as bad as people say they are
>>61485760
>No matter how many times I listen to it, I have personal difficulty with registering Souvlaki as more than a dream pop record
>The Dreadful Hours is not one of My Dying Bride's best albums as a whole, but the first 3 songs are some of the best material they've ever written
>Savages' Silence Yourself is a good album
>Puncolle is ironically enjoyable, albeit ONLY ironically
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>>61494630
They have some of my favorite trad. Check out Gasali Mates String Band
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Love of Life is the best Swans album, Soundtracks and To Be Kind suck. Only good post rock era Swans album is The Seer. Also The Burning World is strongly underrated.
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>>61485891
i love you man
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>>61494696
Is a drum solo not music?
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Lil Dicky is a talented rapper whose songs are actually quite funny.
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today's pop music suffers because of the shift away from melody to more rhythm-oriented pastures
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Skrillex is a genuinely talented artist
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>>61494768
>Good Morning, Captain is not one of Spiderland's better songs

correct breadcrumb trail is the best track
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>>61494490
>Implying Ozzy's "Crazy Train" doesn't take exatly 17.9 seconds to kick in gear
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>>61487279
I actually really like Ten in addition to their other albums. Jeremy and Black are my fucking shit dude.
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It really doesn't matter what music you like as long as you genuinely enjoy it and keep an open mind to new things.

Some people are more dedicated to and have more time to explore music than others. Everyone's preferences are going to be different as well. Getting flustered at "plebs" for liking stuff you think is shit is silly.
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>>61485831
what do you find boring about them? honestly one of my favorite hip hop groups
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phish is one of the best rock bands of all time
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>>61496191
>mfw when it does
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>>61491680
>NOTM did everything TPAB did first and admittedly better

Cater to your opinions?
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>>61485776
yes and for some reason i love when she speaks
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>>61486091
August Burns Red is probably the best metalcore band right now. Rescue & Restore is a very good album
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I think the antics of Axl Rose are too fresh in people's minds for them to evaluate Guns N Roses objectively.
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Vaporwave is not a meme

>420美学は毎日マリファナを吸います
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Aphex Twin is incredibly overrated
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Porter Robinson is really fucking good
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Figure 8 is Elliott Smith's best album by miles.

Van Morrison is fucking terrible.
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>>61500145
You can't evaluate music objectively. Music is 100% subjective.
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Kendrick Lamar is a real person.
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>>61485452
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All My Friends is the only LCD Soundsystem song
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>>61505203
Only good *
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>>61502834
wtf has he been up to since Worlds?

1 fucking remix and a tour

Is he ghost producing or some shit?
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>>61485831
>doesn't listen to scenaio on a regular basis
Radiohead is extremely boring,
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>>61485452
this is not unpopular

and not wrong
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>>61494864
If you take him literally you deserve to be burned alive.
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I like niggas on the moon more than Jenny Death.
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>>61496893
"I smoke weed"
you're probably right though, though you'd have to throw Zappa in there too, maybe grateful dead if you like their legions of boring albums.
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>>61500145
I never paid attention to Axl Rose and I think they mostly suck.
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Most music sound like shit sober
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>>61486709

So many shit opinions

>The Velvet Underground is shit

This explains all of your shitty opinions.
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>>61485668
>henry rollins is trash
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>>61485488
THIS.
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Low is boring as all hell, literally dont understand why people suck that album's dick so much
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Pop punk has created some legit classic albums and is one of the only three relevant and influential punk subgenres since the end of the 80s (the others are post hardcore and emo btw)
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Henry Rollins has done nothing wrong
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>>61506413
which album's dick is being sucked is really the question, tho rite?
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Early 80's synthpop to early 90's dance pop is the best era of music.
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>>61506429
define "post hardcore" and "emo" plz
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>>61506484
No.
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>>61486709
>Metal and its subgenres are for angry kids
>Jenny Death > Niggas on the Moon

there's only one young goat here, anon.
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>>61506413
>>61505627
>>61505070
>>61500989
>>61500271
>>61496669
Literally none of these are even remotely controversial.

>>61496893
>>61500014
>>61500145
>>61502857
>>61505203
>>61505859
>>61506429
>>61506448
These are wrong, objectively.
>>61506477
This is incredibly wrong, but at least it deserves to be debated.
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>>61506495
very well.
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>>61506523
kill yourself
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>>61493642
I don't agree with what music you think /mu/ does and doesn't like, but I agree that /mu/ at large cares more about how their music affects their image and social standing.
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>>61506567
Man, I wish you wouldn't say that kind of stuff. I get it, but I still wish you wouldn't. It doesn't bother me at all, and I welcome all disagreement, but what good can come of it, ya know? It's no harder to be nice, is it?
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>>61486406
HMV near me had the new BMTH for around £5. didn't buy it, i got a voucher for christmas and it was the first time i've stepped into an HMV in around 4 years
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>>61506477

agree on the synthpop part
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Here's one I never see here

Kings of Leon's albums prior to Only By the Night are some of the greatest contributions to rock music in the last 20 years. Even after they sold out they were still better than the Strokes ever were.
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>>61506523
Henry Rollins has only done shit that's subjectively wrong, objectively he's not done anything abhorrent
His opinions may be questionable sometimes but he's no Greg Ginn at least
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>>61491680
Well at least you picked up on those lyrics, but though he's being critical of modern black culture I don't think he is anywhere close to being against black people like you seem to be suggesting.

Great album though and with lyrics like that we could argue about the meanings and it wouldn't matter anyway, it's up to interpretation for better or worse. Death of the artist, etc.
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>>61506653
>Henry Rollins has only done shit that's subjectively wrong
If you have to qualify someone's output like this, then you've already lost.
Have you read See a Grown Man Cry or Now Watch Him Die? He explicitly admits to crimes there, and whether they're justified or proven, he's a criminal by law and admission. I don't know what else you need to be convinced.
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the marilyn manson trilogy is pretty neat.
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>>61485395
>>Most Shoegaze is really boring
how is that unpopular?
do you se any random guy on street listening to shoegaze?
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