He has always looked for validation from people he feels inferior to (Beyonce, Jay Z etc.) and honestly, it's understandable that this constant search for validation would lead him to make an album very dissimilar to Yeezus which sold about as much as J.Cole and had one of the greatest second week drop in sales ever.
What is hilarious, however, is that he can make such a drastic change from being all anti-establishment in 2013 to begging for a collab with Taylor Swift, having country sounding rap-rock ballads (y'all hated it when Em and Rick Rubin did those in 2013, remember) with Rihanna and basically fawning to be White America's sweetheart again with the "moving" Grammy appearances, and the Ellen interview, and the "ballad for my oh-so-cute-and-biracial child" and laying some of the blandest, most inoffensive rap lyrics the genre has seen since Lil Bow Wow. Scratch that, since Kriss Kross.
So, is Kanye King sellout?
or he's doing what he wants to do? i mean, views on an industry can change when it sways in your favor. if someone offers you a few milli to do what you want to do, you would do the same.
i'm just shocked he told beck to respect beyonce's 'artistry'
beck is pretty good, and morning phase was pretty good
beyonce's level of 'artistry' is pretty nil, there are millions of pretty singers in the world who have zero creative input in their 'product' and just perform the songs
she's just marketed to teen girls the most aggressively
I don't know about selling out and all that, but I think you really hit the nail on the head when you said he's looking for validation from the most famous and talented. He is so interesting because he's at the top of the world as an A-list musician, and is insecurity seems to only grow. I guess South Park saw this right away now that I think of it
Kanye shows that there is a actually person behind the music and not just a human product. His music changes because it evolves just like people do through out their lives. You dont think the same today as you did around this time last year
kanye doesn't care about music anymore
its just an outlet for his fashion line
mbdtf was his last full attempt of making something great.
mind you he recorded the vocals of yeezus in like a week or something. barely spent anytime on it.
but kanye has always been like this. he is insecure but he is very talented and he works his ass off.
anybody in the music industry doesn't pay his rants any mind like beck did. because they know hes saying it out of fear.
people make a big deal out of him for nothing
tl:dr kanye is harmless
Kanye West is an aborted Chapelle Show sketch circa 2004. Africans were enslaved, and their descendants' reparations generations later is to steal petty culture awards time from Taylor Swift and Beck, two of the whitest people ever. Beck's whole shtick, his entire fucking "genre-spanning" career is basically a funky white dude. Like a funky cracker. You get it? And Taylor Swift is like a white girl's dream diary.
lmao dude he was doing talk show appearances since he started his rap career
he fucking debuted hey mama on fucking oprah.
kanye isn't a sell out cuz he just does what he fucking wants.
Kanye West suffers of Asperger's Syndrome. His main focus in life used to be music. Now he doesn't care, he's focused on fashion. In my opinion he's not a sellout, he's just very insecure about himself. Kanye, Gambino and Drake have all the same validation problem.
>with the "moving" Grammy appearances
Kanye isn't a stranger to grammy performances (especially not "moving" ones with the 2008 Hey Mama performance)
>and the Ellen interview
He's always been a friend of Ellen's
>and the "ballad for my oh-so-cute-and-biracial child"
Making a song for your child is not selling out
They're okay. I mean it's "bro comedy"/"plebby". Nothing serious or deep, just light hearted silly humour.
It's worth a watch though if you have the time. If you didn't like the first one don't try the second one, although I preferred 22 to 21.
Isn't Drake the guy who completely copied Big Sean's style years ago? And recently he did the same thing to Migos and that Makonnen guy.
And it's ironic because Drake's 100 times bigger than Big Sean will ever be, yet Big Sean should get all the credit.
>try to make a thread about actual artists, for example a thread about taku unami's latest album
>2-5 replies tops
>someone makes a kanye west or a kpop thread
>520 replies no matter how retarded the OP is
lol big sean is a shitty singles rapper, drake is a real artist
makes records, makes mixtapes, does features with everyone, writes great lyrics, can sing and rap, is capable of writing serious and introspective lyrics, is a good person in general and respects his fans
big sean is none of those things and rightfully so
i cant name two of his good songs
calm down m8 stop hating on big sean
>helps Kanye write the majority of Graduation at the tender age of only 19
>completely changes the rap game by inventing a flow never heard before https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=FRQJy4W9fiI
>such an innovator that everyone including Drake has been biting his flow
>saves Cruel Summer from being a complete disaster
>renegades Drake every time he's a featured artist on Drake's track
>somehow still extremely unappreciated or dismissed as a joke rapper
I don't get it? Why don't you like Big Sean, /mu/?
He's better than Drake and the rest of them. Why would anyone listen to, let's say, Migos instead of Big Sean? His punchlines are way more witty and clever and the quality of his music is infinitely better and he's a much better MC, with an insane flow.
And this isn't the case with /mu/ only, I've noticed that many other internet communities don't like Big Sean. For some reason KTT always makes fun of him. Same with some people I know in real life, they just see Big Sean as a complete joke.
I mean, hell, there's more Ariana Grande discussion on /mu/ than about this man. And the majority of /mu/ loves Kanye, so why no love for Big Sean?
Kanye took what he said back. He didn't really apologize, but he took it back.
I've sort of had a realization about Kanye. Having no filter - and really no cognitive processing mediating his first thoughts and his words and actions - might be the key to his artistic "genius." He relies solely on his intuition, which I think has worked wonderfully in hip-hop, but being a celebrity and running in those circles has disoriented him and created these conflicting forces that have plagued him for a while.
Becks new album was shit. It was uninspired and uninteresting. I've listened to it 3 times in the past week, and I still cannot remember a single part of the album that actually sounded interesting or unique.
>implying being able to play a lot of instruments decently means youre a good artist
>implying spanning several different sub genres of folk and alt-buttrock and white boy hip hop constitutes being considered to spans multiple genres
>implying music necessarily gets better with age
>implying Kanye hasn't been around for almost 15 years
>implying Kanye West doesn't write, produce, or do remixes
ilovemakonnen has only gotten worse since drake
father has quite literally no musical connection to drake
sampha was more active BEFORE he was on nwts and has been effectively MIA ever since
partynextdoor is trash
sounds like some guy at the strip club who decided to drink a ton of lean and smoke some weed and press record
drake works with these guys learns from them and steals all their shit. and leaves them dry
the weeknd is shit now
majid is shit now
sampha was doing better stuff with sbtrkt then his shit with drake
its a smart move no doubt
you don't like partynextdoor because hes a singer that didnt conform to that soft shit like they expect rnb dudes to do. He's still just a nigga at the end of the day and doesnt care about that soft garbage
>"Beck is one of the most respected artists in the game and respects artistry. But I felt — and this is my opinion and he's his own man and he's not wrong and we'll still go play basketball and stuff unless he doesn't want to do it — but I felt that even though the Grammys sometimes gives awards to people who you wouldn't think should win in the category, as a respect to artists, we mention the other artist's name in our speech. That was the point I was making about it."
kanyes one of the few musicians where i actually believe he cares a shit ton about what he makes and releases.
that shits incredible, even if he has a subpar rapping voice and flow, just the effort and passion is above many other "better" rappers.
if you hate kanye, you hate yourself.