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Why was the 80s such a shit decade for music?
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Why was the 80s such a shit decade for music?
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Nah that was just the teenybopper shit on MTV.
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>>53540334
What is Talking Heads then
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>>53540654

Memerock.
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80s was the best for music
>Thrash Metal
>Hardcore Punk
>New Wave
>best post punk bands
>New Order>Joy Division
>The Cure
>best metal
>best punk
>best alternative
>best decade
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It really wasn't, but 80s music got crapped on from a couple different sources.

>baby boomers who quit listening to music during the Carter years and were convinced that all after about 1977 was dust and decay
>rockists who said the 80s had too many electronic instruments
>MTV haters
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>>53540836
>baby boomers who quit listening to music during the Carter years and were convinced that all after about 1977 was dust and decay

That's funny because all this music the boomers were decrying was the work of other boomers. The Beatles, Rolling Stones, Bob Dylan, and Eric Clapton weren't boomers, they were born before WWII ended. Yet boomers will claim credit for their accomplishments while ignoring all the "wonderful" things their peers gave us like Kiss, Journey, and disco music.
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>>53540912
Yeah you're right. Boomers foisted disco on us and Gen X killed it with punk :)))
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>>53540963
*shakes head*

No actually punk originated with Lou Reed, a pre-boomer. The Sex Pistols and Ramones were boomers.
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It's too bad; the 80s had a lot of interesting tech development in music that all got discarded in the 90s in favor of the caveman rockist approach.
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test
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You're listening to the wrong 80s music.
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>>53541010
*stabs you with katana*

*sheaths it*

hehe, nothing personal kid
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>>53540334
if you stick to top 40 / radio-friendly stuff, every decade is a shit decade for music.
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>>53540691
>Joy Division>New Order
ftfy
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>>53541010
>The Sex Pistols and Ramones were boomers.
I know this is super logical, but somehow it never felt like it, so this kinda blew my mind.
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>>53541095
>gated snare
>digital synths.

Am I missing something.
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>The 00s sucked. It was all Justin Bieber and gay shit.
Get ready to hear this from little shits in the future.
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>>53540691
Almost all of those artists and genres are terribly bland, and emotionless.
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>birth of hardcore punk
>birth of black metal
>in general had some of the best metal records ever
>great era for classical music
why are you so wrong op?
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>>53540912
There was one music forum I remember which had an old, annoying boomer troll who said that the Ramones and Led Zeppelin killed music and everything after 1970 was shit. He'd go on and on about "I was born in the same year as Joey Ramone, but I don't identify with that shit of theirs in any way."

I mean, this dude was a real whopper. They'd ask him "But do you also hate the music of your parents' generation? Do you hate big band swing?" And he'd say "No I love swing. I listen to music from the 20s through the 60s but everything was downhill once Zeppelin came along."
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Yo
Post-Punk
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considering that there were a lot of good post-punk bands then, i'd say you're completely wrong op
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>>53541482
>Not Poust-Puonk
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80's music didn't age well. It wasn't necessarily bad at the time, but it sounds fucking terrible by today's standards. The 80's were a strange, transitionary period that seems to have aged worse than any other decade.
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>>53541357

This. Pop music is almost entirely garbage. Doesn't matter if it's the 80's, 90's, 2000's, 2010's. The record industry has always been pumping out garbage to get the masses to buy it.

However, as time moves forward, the pop shit gets forgotten and the stuff that actually had an impact on music sticks around.

When people talk about influential 60's and 70's music, no one mentions Chubby Checker or Donny Osmond. Rather the VU, the Stooges. Some groups transcend, like the Stones, Beatles, etc, but most of the garbage recedes.
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>>53541475
>this dude was a real whopper
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>>53540334
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Z687XnigaLs
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>>53541618
Of course. Which makes it comical when boomers act as if Justin Bieber is the entirety of today's music and the Bay City Rollers didn't represent the 70s.
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>>53541728
Or, well, even young idiots acting like all of today's music is represented by Top 40.
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>>53540691
good god metalheads have the worst taste in music
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>>53541376
It makes sense if you consider the punk revolution as representing a generational shift from the idealistic 60s to the cynical 70s.
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>>53540334
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=knkHSoV6Hqg
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>>53541456
so, you have no criticism of them?
80s confirmed GOAT
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Too commercialized, for the first time in music history. Rap on the other hand was the new shit, and begun its rise during the 80's. Now it too is becoming commercialized to hell, and much more swiftly since the framework for doing it is already there. At least we're getting a framework for cheap distribution of non-commercialized music as well: the internet.
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>>53541618
Funny, Chubby Checker thinks he should be in the R&R Hall of Fame.

He'll never get in because Jan Wenner and the RSM crew control all of that and those guys hate the early 60s.
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the 80's were a fucking awesome time in Germany. All that god tier Metal, Punk & avantgarde-esque pop
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>>53541876
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>>53541876
Except when the Scorpions became hair metal cheese to appeal to Amerifats.
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>>53541385
>Implying gated snares aren't awesome.
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>>53541909

Well they were great in the 70's so I can live with that.
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>>53541909
Same thing happened in Britain. All the really great bands like Judas Priest and Def Leppard who sold themselves out for Murkan dosh.
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>>53541949
Too bad the Scorpions never play anything from the 70s when they're touring North America.
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>>53541981
>>53541925
I'm glad that today's fashions are so tame compared to the extreme 70s-80s looks.
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>>53541909
>>53542032
They're still pretty good live because they took good care of themselves and didn't use hard drugs.
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>>53541531
Sounds like the 90's brah
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>>53541984
Iron Maiden are great because they never sold out.
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>>53542082

I assure you people in 2050 will think you looked like a dork.
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>>53541456
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>>53541805
...and then Japan decided to combine hair metal, Sigue Sigue Sputnik and Prince's backing band
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The best music video of all time
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=LatorN4P9aA
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>>53542325
See, it wasn't all camp. You also had honest emotional guys like Steve Perry and Chris de Burgh.
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>>53542383
and Mickey Thomas as Frodo Baggins

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=g6s0V1WN2mo
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>>53540334
Are you crazy? It had the best pop music

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=zu5xfnUz7c0

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Q-gu1KETjVY

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=sdDegaHfuXQ

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=oDWbonbkFXc
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90s>70s>00s>60s>dogshit>80s
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>>53542662
>90s
Stopped reading there.
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>>53541618
>Stones and Beatles are garbage
I just saw chubby checker at the new years shindig in my town. Got into the show free and had access to an open bar, great fuckin time. Never mind that the music is ridiculous, it was awesome seeing a 70-something year old man groovin and dancing up on younger women, not to mention how funny it was watching a bunch of middle aged people drunkenly doing the twist.
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OP, pop music during/post disco years was the cocaine. Cocaine is a shitty musician. Heroin's alright, so I hear.
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didn't Dream pop, Hip Hop, Post rock and Shoegaze all come from the 80s?
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>>53542806
apart from post rock, yes
but only hip hop made it anywhere near the mainstream
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>>53542893
and that one started in the 70s (Rapper's Delight came out in 1979)
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>>53541850
Interdasting.
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>>53542726

I wasn't saying the Beatles and Stones were necessarily garbage. I like the Stones and enjoy some Beatles albums. I'm just saying some bands are both important and popular but most are just popular.
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>>53543298
Yeh, Wenner & Company consider the period between Buddy Holly's death (February 1959) and the Beatles' first US tour (December 1963) to be a musical black hole.
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i just love the tinny sound of 80s synthesizers
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>>53542726
>>53541850
He said something like "I'm 71; I want to get into the HOF while my health is still good and I can enjoy it. If they induct me when I'm 85 and near death, what's the point?"
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>>53542726
You can get all that and worse at Jimmy Buffet shows.
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The Twist is such an annoying song.
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>>53542994
Much of it started in the '70s' due to some generational bleed. I mean, the 60s ended in '72, the 70s in like 83-4 depending on who you ask and the 80s when the oversized shirts started looking like pic related.
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>>53543913
>less like pic related
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>>53543913
>Much of it started in the '70s' due to some generational bleed. I mean, the 60s ended in '72
Depends. Albums like Master Of Reality and LZ IV very much sound like the 70s to me.
>the 70s in like 83-4 depending on who you ask
The 70s was totally over by 82. Listen to some of the albums from that year like Creatures Of The Night and Screaming For Vengeance. There's no trace of the 70s left in them.
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>>53543913
I see more people act like the 70s ended in '76.
But hip hop really did develop earlier on. It took a couple of years until anybody even thought of putting it on a record.
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>>53543913
It's a lot of bleed-over. 1972-73 is an important point because it's when the Rolling Stones and The Who produced their last groundbreaking albums and new bands like Aerosmith with no connection to the 60s started appearing.
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>impling
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>>53541469
>'80
>classical
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>implying Slave to the Grind isn't better than your whole record collection
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>>53544120
>I see more people act like the 70s ended in '76
Which is dumb. Does this look anything like the 80s?

Nah, the 70s ended once Reagan was in office.
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>>53543913
>>53544066
>>53544160
I always thought dividing it in 5 year segments* starting at 2 and 7 made more sense:
57-61
62-66
67-71
72-76
77-81
etc.

*ok, I'm a communist, we always think in 5 year plans
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>>53541456
>hardcorepunk
>thrash
>emotionless
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>>53544066
>>53544120
>>53544160
That actually turned out well. I was expecting contrarian bullshit. Anyway, I think a lot of it has as much to do with regional scenes as well as events outside of the music as it does with what has been released prior. You can really hear the wasteland of 70s as disillusion with the failure of the 60s and hard drugs and economic depression and excess really come into play.
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>>53544216
it was about the way they're ignoring punk and post-punk when talking about the 70s
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>>53544120
>But hip hop really did develop earlier on. It took a couple of years until anybody even thought of putting it on a record.

Big deal, same with rock. Big Joe Turner claimed that he was doing rock music in 1939. The 1941 Marx Brothers film The Big Store even has the phrase "rock and roll" uttered in it.

Nah, rock was a long time in the making before Rock Around The Clock broke.
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>>53544277
Black Sabbath were the first truly 70s band. They represented a new, darker music that dropped the hippie idealism.
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>>53540334
I just went to the rym charts by year and all I see are albums you guys love.
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>>53544289
>The 1941 Marx Brothers film The Big Store even has the phrase "rock and roll" uttered in it.
well, it's an old slang term for fucking
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>>53544216
There was a definite change in the last two years of the decade as New Wave and punk were rising up. Van Halen, Motorhead, and Judas Priest represented a move away from the sluggish blues rock of Sabbath and Zeppelin to a faster, more pulsing style.
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>>53544286
Punk was more of a factor in Britain than the US.
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