>i lacked so much creativity i had to resort to learning

Theory is a guideline, not a rule book.

>>53410909
>I tried to learn music theory but it was too hard :(

>I have unironically saved picture of obese unshaven man tipping his hat on my computer

>>53410909
>I'm going to project my own insecurities about my lack of musical education with a meme

>>53410909
HE LIVES

Being le randumb and ignorant aren't the same things as being creative.

>>53410919
i tried once and the results were absolutely disgusting it was years ago and im still trying to forget

you would have to be the most bland generic kind of plebeian to believe that stuff actually helps you

>>53411017
I wish I knew the basics to help me understand my guitar

>>53411026
just follow your instincts

>>53410919
>>53410932
>>53410970

Yeah, but it's true though.

The great artists that give a shit about theory are a few and far inbetween.

>>53411046
I'm close to tone deaf

>>53411026

Learn the scale shapes and the basic chords, everything else will follow.

Don't make excuses, just play the thing, bud.

>>53411067
Oh I do. But when I read about root notes and transposing other simple concepts I want to shoot someone.

>>53410909
>I have no idea how to argue, so i post a picture of a man in a hat to make people agree with me

>>53411088

His assertion is correct you autist. It's not like you're arguing any better.

>Talks shit about using meme pics
>Uses greentext
>ohshit

>>53411112
>greentext
>meme
>not just an alternative way of communicating.

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>i lacked so much creativity i had to resort to STEM major

>>53411120

He was the one talking shit about using that pic, dingus.

I was calling him out on his hypocrisy. Fuck if I care.

>>53411125

Lol comparing STEM majors with their six figure salaries vs unemployed jazz snobs with their 3 inch finger nails and skullet ponytails.

Ha

>>53411160
>implying i don't just study STEM because its easy studying math and stuff like that but then still will have no job because of lack of creativity and ability to solve real problems,

>>53411170

I don't know how you got that from what I said but, uh, sure.

>>53410909
Is that Chumlee from Pawn Stars?

>>53411160
More like comparing STEM majors with their expected unpaid overtime and mediocre salary until they decide to study business and management vs jazz snobs who just take it easy with their bohemian lifestyle.

This thread is cancer

>>53411201

Lol fair enough.

>excellent understanding of music theory from piano lessons taken till I was 18
>never ever use it and just go by ear when writing music

All it did was make me try and over complicate everything I write

>>53411057
>the great artists broke the rules, maaan
>i don't have to learn how to play an instrument
>or practice
>or put effort into anything
>i just need to break the rules
>that's what great artists do

>>53411219

Hahahah

>Autist needs rigid structure or he can't focus on the task at hand
>Can't name any artists outside of jazz or classical aka any great popular music that came from a theory fag
>is mad

>i'm so naturally gifted that I can create great music without knowing anything about musical composition

It's a tool to help you. If you don't know music theory, you'll probably just end up writing music that follows basic theory, but take a long time to write it because you don't already have a guide for how to compose an enjoyable piece.

>>53411219

Jimi didn't put any effort into anything
Neil didn't put any effort into anything
Lennon didn't put any effort into anything

>what he actually believes

>>53411112
His assertion that people who learn music theory wear hats? OK. What does that have to do with anything?

>>53411244

>I like to turn art into homework

You sound stiflingly gay and I can't imagine anyone wanting to create anything with you.

>>53411209
I just want to be a jazz snob so badly and hang out with my other jazz snob friends and listen to Jelly Roll Morton while discussing some latin american boom author on french.
Instead I studied Computer Science and work overtime.

>>53411258

Yes

>>53411125
lmao it's 2015 that's what robots are for and if the job requires any human input at all millions of third world country people can do exactly what you do for a fraction of the price why would anyone unironically choose to do stem in 2015

>>53411206
/thread

>>53411266
>hmm, I'm stuck with this song. Where do I go with it?
Person who know theory:
>well there's several chord progressions that are commonly used in this scenario. I'll work with those a bit and see if anything works out so that I have a base to build off of.
Person without music theory
>fumbles around endlessly until he stumbles across one of the generic chord progressions that the guy who knew theory tried out right off the bat

>>53411269

That's sad, man.

You know it's never too late to change.

You know, today is the first day of the rest of y

>>53411298

Find me the theory guy that writes all the GOAT riffs please.

You know, instead shitting out some extended experimental jazz jam nonsense or if you tried to write "pleb" music and it would just come out like an overcooked Dave Matthews-esque disaster.

>>53411057
>literally all composers ever
>literally all jazz musicians since the 30's
>brian wlison
all of these thousands (maybe even millions) of people gave a "shit" about music theory. Most of them are "great" artists.

>>53411335

Dave Mustaine.

>>53411405

Not>>53411298 btw

>>53411335
Brian Wilson

>>53411269
its overrated

ITT: OP is so buttmad about his lack of musical skill that he must rip on people who dedicate a chunk to their life learning music.

>>53410909

ITT : Memes and
>greentext

>>53411269
I'm a STEM-fag and a jazz snob

you can be both, u kno?

>>53411419
>>53411401

Okay, Brian Wilson's a good one if that's true.

But no one gives a shit about Jazz, grandpa.

And still the vast majority of great modern writers aren't coming from a theory background.

>>53411335

Trey Azagthoth
Ihsahn
The guys from cynic

>>53411433

You learn music when you have autism.

You play music and get pussy and have a life when you're a musician.

If you make the conscious decision to not learn theory, you are a retard. Fact.

>>53411467
>But no one gives a shit about Jazz, grandpa.
>>>/twitter/
>>>/facebook/

>>53411472

Do you think it took theory to write Wonderwall (aka greatest song of the last century), ya chucklefuck?

>>53411444
true

>>53411475
>You learn music when you have insert meaningless meme buzzword

>>>/out/

>>53411475
>I think getting female affection
>I actually think, despite that, I take music seriously
>musicians don't take their craft seriously beyond getting their dicks wet

You best be b8ing m80

>>53411482

I bet you're still do opiates and the Charleston.

>>53411467
>But no one gives a shit about Jazz, grandpa.

L
E
A
V
E

N
O
W

>>53411494

Ahahaha

>rock and roll
>not a euphemism for sex
>not the most important genre of music of the past 65 years

Hey, OP here. I'm mad because I lost my GF to a guy who knew music theory who knows how to write and play music better than I do

>>53411484

Okay, okay, you're baited us, fine.
5 internet points to you.

>>53411501

Suck it jazz fag.

>>53411507
THE
BAIT
IS
REAL
XD

>>53411522
LE
BAIT
XD

>>53411514
Hello, I am your former GF, have fun not writing any good songs!

>>53411514

She just went wild for his greasy ponytail, small stature and 3 inch long finger nails.

She's also a fat tub of shit, so.

>>53411496
?????
???????
?????

hey guys brief reminder that if you try to learn an artform youre a fedora xD

>>53411526

Hey, the first quote is true.

Sucka

brief reminder that if you enjoy writing music for the music and not for sex you're a meme

Music theory isn't for fags.

Music as a whole is for faggots.

>>53411467
a LOT of people gives a shit about jazz, there are many jazz schools filled with jazz musicians all over the world and many jazz musicians of the past can sell out big venues (wayne shorter, herbie hancock, chick corea, etc.)

Btw, even if no one gave a shit about jazz (which is still completely wrong) it doesn't change the fact that it's great music that requires you to have some music knowledge.

Also, Brian incorporates a lot of jazz elements in his music. He taught himself theory so that he'll be able to write more complicated and advanced music.

>>53411562

You can write it for both, bra.

You just don't have to be such snobby little weirdo about it.

>>53411059
Then get a loud guitar

>>53411566

Your post says "jazz" a lot in it.

So according to what I'm reading in this thread, the end goal of music is to get laid?

>>53411581

How was that not already evident?

>>53411580
it's fun to type

>>53411580
Ur post says "fag" all over it

>>53411581
Yes, until you are old and without sex drive, then you write complex, artistically honest compositions.

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>>53411595

Yeah, but you're not mine.

>>53411581
of course. what other goal is there?

>>53411603
How old is that

>>53411598

Oooooooh

>>53411607
Around the time you stop compulsory looking for porn.

I never learned music theory and I made the best bands ever, Shellac, Rapeman, and Big Black

>>53411620

Sick, this thread has been blessed by based Albini.

Give thanks, brothers.

>>53411618

If you still have a fap folder on your hard drive then there's no way in hell you can be artistically honest.

It's science.

>>53411618
How old is that

>>53411607
>>53411679

Twins!

>>53411630
Don't listen to Ablini, his music is garbage an that is because he never took the time to dissect theory. Listen to some real music, like mine!

>>53411751
>ben
>capital V

Only people who listen and trained in music theory for a year can listen to Jenny Death

Sex is a meme

>>53411467
>But no one gives a shit about Jazz, grandpa.
LEAVE
E
A
V
E

>>53411925
*tips quartet*

I still remember a pretentious as fuck local band that claimed that they used "abstract chords" instead of power chords and that this was a selling point.

Ugh.

>>53411444
u can totes be both

reminder that Feynman was an award-winning musician.

>>53411925

Heh suck it Charles DINGUS

>>53410932
it's clearly on his smartphone

>>53411965
lel

>>53410909
excellent post op. thank u, thank u so much.

>>53411965

Every people instructed about music theory would know that is bullshit

Name of the band though?

>>53412392
Sound of Sulfur I think. They were from a richie-rich town called Southlake in Texas and all of them had rich parents.

>>53411791
Then I feel happy for not being trained in music theory, because Death Grips is the worst thing to happen to music.

Not even baiting, if you unironically like Death Grips you are an objectively worse human being than Adolf Hitler, and Kim Jong Un combined.

>>53412772
this: killing millions of living beings is one thing, but brutally raping music is on an entirely higher level of pure evil