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I'm on a train in the north of fucking nowhere so I have a pretty shitty connection and can't post much right now.
I just listened to a compilation called "Ladakh: Songs & Dances From The Highlands Of Western Tibet", from the Nonesuch Explorer series. It's pretty great hearing something from Tibet that isn't buddhist chants. I guess this is more secular music for the people rather than sacred music for the monasteries? It sounds a lot like both the Chinese traditional music I've heard, as well as Mongolian music (sans khomei and other throat singing techniques). Pretty interesting stuff!
This is some pakistani rock(I'm a rock musician so I like seeing how other country scenes implement rock and traditional elements) anyways, this band is called Junoon and they're part of the "Sufi Rock" movement that consists of rock instruments as well as indian/pakistani instruments(Sitar, Tabla, etc.) Hope you guys in /trad/ get to give it a listen
Not on an Asian musical journey. Just going through the Nonesuch Explorer series, really, since I haven't been able to download more music for a few days.
I'd say generally I'm more interested in African, Asian and Eastern European music than other areas, though. Not entirely sure why, it just sits right with me. I guess for the African (and a fair bit of the Asian and EE) it's the percussion that hits home, and for the Asian and European it's mostly the drones that make me feel cozy. Hard to explain, I simply like it.
I'm really not a fan of tradpop fusions, they tend to be super cheesy. I also don't think they belong too well in /trad/ generals, but that really isn't up to me alone to decide.
Despite living in Asia for 7 years and having a fondness for the traditional music of the area through nostalgia and general curiosity, after the sporadic musical journeys so far I'm finding myself constantly meandering back to post-African repetitions every time and listening to more Afro/afro-Caribbean music, not totally surprising really considering my overall music tastes but Asian music just isn't doing it for enough these days, too many strings versus drums I think.
That said, I still love the sound of the guzheng.
Man just thinking about this, it's such a shitty description/justification for why I like the stuff. I'm even listening to gamelan right now, which I think is great and that's definitely percussion from Asia.
I'll need to think a bit more closely about this.
Where in Asia did you live? The proto-pre-post-African repetitions that stem as the roots for post-African repetitions in modern dance music is absolutely great though, I can't get enough of it either, but I haven't listened to nearly enough of it yet. Tonight when I get to a proper broadband connection instead of these unstable mobile connections I'll try to dig out some nice tribal drummerinos or whatever.
Hong Kong for 4 years, Thailand (Koh Pha Ngan) for 2 and Indonesia (Surabaya and Bali) for 1. Family moved out there originally and I stuck around when they left. The music I listened to most was still typical dance music for the most part but it was difficult not to be immersed in local and traditional music too of course.
Yeah, so I've heard; someone else mentioned they were really tired of luk thung because it's fucking everywhere lmao. I love it, though, and wish my local thai market would start selling some cassettes or something. Then again, like most music, I guess the majority of it is pretty shit and I really only dig some stuff.
Grass is always greener yada, yada
If you asked them to get their family to ship over some local music they'd probably just look at you strangely and ask why the hell you'd want to listen to their local crap and not radio pop/rock from the US/Euro.
My old man currently lives in Macau and his missus is from The Philippines so there is lots of family there, might send out a few mails, see what local stuff they can dig up but imagine it will be more likely local renditions of pop/rock. D-Styles and DJ Qbert are still the best the country offers anyway.
Pretty sure there are Filipinos and Indonesians who post here, doubt they care much for local music mind.
That'd be pretty neat, actually. Local renditions of pop/rock is still a pretty good thing from an ethnomusicological perspective, as it would more or less be an indication of what the modern culture is like, musically.
Well this is a popular Filipino pop/rock band so kinda fits
I was once in a punk band at 17 with 2 Filipinos and a local in Hong Kong, a combined Filipino/Chinese/British punk band by a group of us who worked in a Fish n Chip shop together. God it was fucking awful music but it was an interesting international colab!
There's literally no possible way for me to stream that on this 1kbps connection I have right now. You can probably tell from the fact that it takes me 5 minutes or so to upload a reply.
>I was once in a punk band at 17 with 2 Filipinos and a local in Hong Kong, a combined Filipino/Chinese/British punk band by a group of us who worked in a Fish n Chip shop together. God it was fucking awful music but it was an interesting international colab!
10/10 would listen, what was your band name? Also you say Chinese, do you consider Hong Kong a part of China, as the Chinese apparently often do, rather than an autonomous state as most of the rest of the world?
They're called Moonstar88, I'm sure you can find plenty more just like them when you have connection though, they aren't exactly innovative or special.
Sutra. I still have a copy of the first song lyrics I wrote drunk on a waitress pad from my old local in Hong Kong somewhere, the usual teenage angst bollocks.
Yeah we just ran it for a while until we got bored of the place like we do with so many vanquished nations. Its part of China but its own place in so many ways.
>Sutra. I still have a copy of the first song lyrics I wrote drunk on a waitress pad from my old local in Hong Kong somewhere, the usual teenage angst bollocks.
You really MUST scan this, lmfao
I have arrived at my destination, but might not post more tonight. But I'll be here tomorrow between 13:00-15:00 CET, possibly also 08:00-09:00.
100/100 connection now, so I can upload requests for people.
Hey Hampus, I want to say thanks for admitting me to the group and for making /trad/ threads. I'd post about the music but I'm still a noob to stuff outside the US and Europe.
Hampus why does like half of /mu/ vehemently hate you? (serious question)
Also, do you have anything in the way of traditional Native American music? Spiritual ~or~ Powwow, I have been seeking both and folkways is rather limited.
I don't have any with me, unfortunately. Sorry!
There's a difference between "localising" western pop music and "western pop-inising" local traditional music, if you know what I mean?
>Hampus why does like half of /mu/ vehemently hate you? (serious question)
Because a) I have shit taste b) I'm a massive cunt c) I'm an incessant shitposter and c) they're mad for some raisin I don't even kno
>Also, do you have anything in the way of traditional Native American music?
Sorry, literally nothing. I haven't listened to a single piece of actual traditional NA music. Someone posted a few suggestions in yesterday's thread, I believe, so if you search native american or /trad/ you should find it I think.
I'd love to hear it.
Oh, I thought there was a particular reason.
Not that you'd actively seek it out with as broad a musical landscape as you have, but if you get the opportunity to listen to any "Bird Singing" (that's what it's called on the west coast), or any of the sacred night chants, definitely don't turn your ear away. The Yeibichi, Sioux, Kwakiutl, and Cheyenne tribes all had gorgeous night chants. Here's Navajo's. 2,500 years old and it's almost downright catchy in it's simple beauty.
>There's a difference between "localising" western pop music and "western pop-inising" local traditional music, if you know what I mean?
Kind of, there's rock/pop music that from some countries that just gets influenced by trad and there's trad music that gets influenced by rock/pop. The thing is I tkink the first one is better. And I don't even like rock/pop.
Thanks! I definitely will end up listening to NA music some time, but I don't think I'm quite there yet. I have actually listened to the voyager gold record, but I guess I simply don't really remember what's on it.
I think we're pretty much in agreement, if I'm reading you right here. When people take popular music and play it in their own cultural context and traditions, it's a whole different thing from a simple tradpop fusion. The latter which I like to think of as "modernised traditional music" and I think it just sounds horrible.
love sufi music, love their zikr
listening to Music from Southern Laos now, good stuff, sweet tunes
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STOP BEING CANCER.
kinda can't, just search zikr or dhikr on youtube and make sure you don't get put on a terror list
a lot of those chechnyans sufis are militants
they do have the dopest chants though
this thing is amazing
I like this album.
oh fuck i found an album in my room with tradicional music from mozambique from the time when my percussion class went to a show and i bought the cd like 4 or 5 years ago. it's signed and everything. sounds great.
i'm ripping but this will take half an hour bc i wanna make a good rip. if the thread dies or you leave just search for mozambique or something in the archives and it should be there.
apparently it's a style of new music played in berlin but I have no idea what it's supposed to sound like apart from a single video on youtube that claims to be it, which doesn't sound like much at all
just in case someone hasn't checked them out, here are my /trad/ shares, for your DLing needs:
part 1) https://archive.rebeccablacktech.com/mu/thread/S53325445#p53329523
>tfw some of my scrobbles dont register where the music came from
>Timbila Muzimba - Warethwa
>Traditional music from Mozambique. It percussion heavy (mainly traditional marimbas from mozambique)
>Timbila Muzimba - Warethwa
>Traditional music from Mozambique.It's full of percussion (mainly traditional marimbas from mozambique)
Has anyone checked out the Celestial Harmonies Music of Islam set? It's pretty amazing. I haven't listened to Indonesia, Morocco and a few of the other albums yet, but Pakistan, Yemen, Qatar and Iran are all great.
Wow, the thread is still alive after thirteen hours! Good job!
I'll be available to take requests for about two hours or so now. If you need any particular album, I'll check what.cd and grab it for you.
Hampus you're a huge faggot and that pyramid shit you made is one of the gayest images on the internet.
However, does anyone know what this baltic(?) tradition of just intonation chanting I remember being introduced to once could be called?
jesus christ this makes so much sense but at the same time it makes make angry that there is name for this.
it was in just intonation, featured very dense harmonization generally diverging then reconverging. It may have been heterophonic, but that may be me confusing it with something else I listened to the same day.
It may also have been from the balkans, but I'm leaning towards it being baltic music.
>It was exclusively performed by women.
Women do have a prominent role in Albanian music, and men and women are generally separate in performance. But it's most likely still not what you're thinking of.
>Any idea where to start within albanian vocal music?
Albania: Labë Country - Complaints and Love Songs
Ensemble Tirana - Chants polyphoniques d'Albanie
Ensemble Vocal De Gjirokastër - Albanie: Polyphonies Vocales Du Pays Lab
I'm finding these on what.cd
>Various Artists - Fiji: Songs of Love and Homeland: String Band Music  [Compilation]
>Traditional Fiji - Turtle Island Fiji Musical Memories  [Album]
Just posting to mention that the unesco youtube channel has some great informational videos on music and dance traditions, although they're not sorted very well. They're mostly found in the "Intangible Heritage" series playlists.
Sorry, I don't think I even listened to that album myself yet!
I was bored and had little to do, way too much spare time. Figured I might as well spend some time listening to traditional music, and what better way to accompany that than shitposting on /mu/?
>I was bored and had little to do, way too much spare time.
Apologies if this is too personal, but if I recall correctly you quit /mu/ because you got a girlfriend, did you break up?
>Sorry, I don't think I even listened to that album myself yet!
Anyway, I have some Mongolian/Tuvan style stuff, if anyone's interested, as well as misc other traditional music - Armenian and Persian stuff. Ask away if you're curious.
>José Afonso - Fados de Coimbra e Outras Canções (1981)
>Coimbra Fado, Songs about college and Coimbra, Portuguese, one of my favs ever
>José Afonso - Cantigas do Maio (1971)
>Portuguese Folk Music, Fado, Singer/Songwriter, Socialist Music
>Carlos Paredes - Movimento Perpétuo (1971)
>Coimbra Fado, Fado, Portuguese Guitar, Guitar Genius
>Maitre Gazonga - Les Jaloux Saboteurs
>Kind of afrobeat music from Chad
>Lobi Traoré - The Lobi Traoré Group (2005)
>Tishoumaren, Music from Mali
>Zumi-Kai Original Instrumental Group - Koto Music of Japan
>Soukyoku, Traditional Japanese Music, Music with Kotos
>Master Musicians of The Ikuta School - Japanese Koto Consort (1991)
>Soukyoku, Traditional Japanese Music, Music with Kotos
I grabbed the ones that looked most interesting but these morans need to grow an brain and seed.
I just searched Antillean and found it. Hope you enjoy.
This is coming up for you, if only Mega cons would stop sucking so much shit.
What looks good on what for Uruguay?
All I seem to have is pic related and its not even traditional.
There's like 70+ albums from Uruguay on what.cd, and I honestly don't really know how to judge which ones might be decent or not. I'd suggest you maybe search a bit on smithsonian or just google to find some specific albums, and I'll check for those. Alternatively if there's a specific genre of music from there you want I could snatch something.
Does anyone on /mu/ listen to traditional northern European music? Celtic and Nordic folk are a lot of what I listen to and also what I play but I've barely ever seen anyone else post about them, I've shared a lot on /mu/ and never seen more than a little interest. I'm also very interested in early European folk music.
I've got some but most of it isn't trve traditional in the way Hampus meant this thread.
Nevertheless, still going to share it as well as some links to samples: http://pastebin.com/KDC0gfWD
If anyone is interested in a chart of some genuine Celtic and Nordic folk I could probably put together a chart.
Nice chart, not exactly what I mean but there's some bands I like there (such as Hedningarna, Garmarna, Valravn, Stary Olsa and Daemonia Nymphe). The only thing is I hate Wardruna, I never understood their appeal, I rather listen to real Norse music like Harald Foss performs. Good taste! Nice someone on /mu/ likes some similar music.
Two more shares, as promised.
>Koto Ensemble Of The Ikuta School - Japanese Koto Orchestra: Five Kotos, Hoteki, Shamisen And Shakuhachi (1992)
>Soukyoku, One of the best traditional japanese music albums (seriously check out the song on the yt link)
>Kim So-Hee - P'ansori - Korea's Epic Vocal Art & Instrumental Music
>Korean Folk Music, Korean Classical Music
hey /trad/, I was wondering if anyone could help me find the following album:
I've been growing more interested in my Basque roots as of the few last months, and the review on this album made me want to check it out. I haven't found anything, however.
And also, hi Hampus, glad to see you're back around! Last time I was browsing /mu/ you were leaving, I remember I offered you to get a beer if you're in the Rotterdam area. (offer still stands)
When I mean lots of time I'm being serious. There's like 1 or 2 seeders but I have the time. 2h30 at best. I don't know if Hampus can't beat me with his super fast internet.
Hey man I'm enjoying the Wim Statius Muller stuff you upped. Thx.
Ah, I'll be sleeping by then. I'll check tomorrow afternoon in the archive.
I'll list the stuff I got from this thread, too:
This has to be the best thread I've come across since I ever started browsing /mu/ in 2012. I'm very happy we can still have threads like this. Hopefully one day I'll be able to contribute but for now I'm just not knowledgeable enough. I'll just keep on downloading until someone requests something I have, lel.
If you're interested you can find a video of Carlos Paredes playing with the double bass player from the Ornette Coleman quartet, Charlie Haden.
The actual performance starts at around 10:00. Before that there's an interview for the portuguese television.
>Joxan Goikoetxea & Juan Mari Beltran - Egurraren orpotik dator… (1993)
>Basque Folk Music, Ambient