>japanese folk inspired chopped up classical music in post-rock form
This shit is fucking beautiful. If you haven't already give it a listen.
>you can't have fun around me!
great. another one of these art music faggots that think theyre on some musical high ground over other people when they have no idea what the fuck theyre listening to.
Why don't you go crawl up in a ball and stab yourself to death?
can someone post something similar to this?
i need more modern classical with electronic influences pls
I'm relistening to it now (downloaded it off SLSK to give it another shot) and as soon as the guitars come in it literally becomes some absolute trash. A garbage melody that would be found in some movie theme or music composed for Concert Band.
Or, even in some throwaway Monstercat post.
No, just not worth my time to respond to.
Listen to better shit, like actual classical music.
Yes. And it's the truth.
>being this far gone
This guy will never actually realize how pretentious he is.
sort of feel bad for you.
>it has to sound like classical!
you're so dead set on your preconceived notions of what music should sound like that you're completely missing the point of the music. You're literally no better than the average music pleb that listens to top 40s pop.
it's a good album, but it is not classical, nor japanese folk inspired
that said, this guy has some serious issues tripping over the fact someone put an album he doesn't like in a box of music he likes
if he were that great, he wouldn't be obsessing over it like this
It isn't original or creative? Explain. All i see here is a brilliant mix of a bunch of different musical ideas in order to make some very brilliant stuff.
All well executed.
Try not shitposting and people wont shitpost back.
These melodies are typical in, say, Indie game soundtracks. They sound bad there, and they sound bad here.
The folksier parts are greater successes, but don't redeem the record.
>attempting to impress by affecting greater importance, talent, culture, etc., than is actually possessed.
It's literally the fucking definition.
It's actually a trained musician who is fucking sick of ignorance being tolerated.
>It's actually a trained musician who is fucking sick of ignorance being tolerated.
we meet again?
It's hard to say why it is cheesy if you haven't listened to classical music.
That fucking guy was claiming he fucks tons of women and is a prodigy.
Don't be lazy, faggot.
Here you go guys: https://newamsterdamrecords.bandcamp.com/album/tristan-perich-surface-image
This is a composer and album that is much more interesting in terms of both composition as well as use of electronics.
>hard to say why it's cheesy if you havenm't listened to classical music.
HAHA bullshit. you're basically nitpicking at the album because you think you're somehow superior because of the music you listen to.
Pic related is also a much better fusion of a sort of classical style with glitch electronics.
Yes. This sounds nothing like any soundtrack I've heard aside from the occasional piano structure and melodies.
>song collapsing and reforming itself
These all don't happen very often in soundtracks. You're nitpicking.
/classical get's so butthurt and uptight over everything it's pathetic - just stick to your containment thread please.
as for the music itself it was a nice listen but nothing amazing. I could see it being more enjoyable if I was in the right mood so I bookmarked it for later and I'll probably check out other stuff by him
Nothing else to say? I just told you exactly what you wanted to hear and you repeated yourself.
Maybe you're starting to realize how pretentious you are. Go cry yourself to sleep and rethink your life. Maybe when you wake up you'll feel better.
>Maybe you're starting to realize how pretentious you are.
If anything this thread reinforces the fact that /mu/ has terrible taste and that I'm going to have to keep fucking calling you people out on your bullshit.
i'm a music major too. 4th year and going into grad program afterwards. you would be surprised how many educated musicians there are here, you're not special so stop acting like you're some kind of music deity
But you just got called out on YOUR bullshit. I basically just reduced you to a parrot. You have nothing left to say other than "oh, you wouldn't understand!"
>I haven't heard a fusion of electronics/piano like I have heard in the Perich.
Yeah and the music majors I study with listen to mainstream pop.
I can't trust that you have good taste just because you are a music major.
If I wanted to continue this argument, I'd ask for your favorite artists/composers and we could move from there.
But overall this thread has gone past its usefulness for me.
Who are your favorite composers?
Fair point, it's just that Stockhausen is a far cry from Daisuke.
>Who are your favorite composers?
>trying to divert the argument this hard
How many times have you said that now? that's literally irrelevant. You're just a pretentious faggot that thinks he's above of everyone else because he listens to le obscure classical music. Like actually read through some of your shit.
You criticize an artist for being cheesy, i ask you why. You only give me one really silly reason. I tell you there a bunch of stuff to be appreciated about the music that you're completely glossing over. Then you say that "I can't understand because i don't listen to the music you do"
You fucked up.
It's not irrelevant. If you don't have favorite composers, then it's clear you don't listen to classical. If you don't listen to classical, then you wouldn't understand why the album is borderline dogshit.
Your fake insults mean nothing to me.
And you do? How am i supposed to believe that when you've literally been incapable of explaining yourself for the past 20 minutes and instead rely on buzzwords and cop outs.
You are a fucking fraud, my friend.
And by the way, you still have those preconceived notions of what music should sound like (classical) as you clearly just pointed out.
>you've literally been incapable of explaining yourself for the past 20 minutes
As I already said, Taylor Swift sounds perfectly fine to a person who hasn't listened to tons of more sophisticated music.
Similar for Kashiwa. Nobody here seems to have listened to proper classical music and so I can't convince you of anything. I can only tell you that it legitimately is very cheesy.
If you don't listen to classical music and just want confirmation, sure faggot.
>still under that classical music guise
Atleast I can point out why Taylor Swift is garbage. You haven't given me a single proper explanation as to why you think kashiwa daisuke is bad. You've just been leaping back and forth between "HURR DURR not as gud as muh classical!" and "you wouldn't understand!"
You haven't listened to classical music. Certainly not a lot of it.
I can't convince you because you have no background in it.
>Atleast I can point out why Taylor Swift is garbage.
Literallly what I fucking just said!
You can do that: because you've listened to TONS of modern music!
AKA the opposite of your status with Kashiwa!
I can explain to a pleb why i think taylor swift is bad. Considering your "expertise" with your bullshit, you should be able to do the same with me. Which you have failed miserably in. Stick to your classical music. Don't try to give your input on things you know nothing about. If this isn't your kind of music then just say so. You just come off as pretentious otherwise.
I think the problem here is that you somehow think OP's music is being compared to actual classical works....wow you're stupid it's pretty obvious this is not the next beethoven 5th
Swift's music is basically the epitome of what i consider to be lazily written and uninspired music. Basically all they really strive for is image and groove. Those are he two biggest factors to getting a lot of record sales in my opinion. And that's what they try to do. Go for sales. Not make good music. If you consider it good because it's danceable then good for you. I look for more compelling stuff that will have me coming back for more and more listens.
or atleast that's what i would tell the average pleb.
>Swift's music is basically the epitome of what i consider to be lazily written and uninspired music.
I've been saying the same of Kashiwa really.
The rest of it is particular to Swift.
Basically, I guess one thing I could say is that I feel like Kashiwa is latching onto trends with gimmicks in order to get attention. The glitch aspects in the music, for instance. They seem to be done pretty basic-ly and with little effect.
On an album like Enjoy Your Rabbit, they pack more of a punch. Distortion turns once beautiful melodies into haunting dirges. When the listener gets to "Year of the Sheep" it feels like a bubble has surrounded them: echoes of distortion hit the bubble, but are bounced back. They are in a safe area.
That's a powerful effect.
The stuff in Stella never really felt that way to me.
Oh what the fuck ever.
It's clear that it carries elements of modern classical among others.
It is clearly part of a modern Neoclassical movement.
I'm not going to have this argument...
It's not neoclassical because it's not structured like a neoclassical piece. Classical-era music relied on cadential chord structures, whereas this relies on a simple repeating chord structure. And it's not meant for live performance, it's barely contrapuntal, it fulfills practically no aspects of classical music.
You realise what you're describing here is extremely specific to sufjan?
I can make a similar arguement.
The samples on Stella are wonderful. For example, the water sample being chopped up and glitched almost sounding like Kashiwa is trying to communicate that "this is how the album is going to be" because water is supposed to flow with the current and this can be related to music in general and the music on this album as well.. This kind of sets the mood for the album. At least that's what i got out of it.
Hey OP. If you liked that, you should listen to this
But gives me the same vibe :)