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It's a cool video for a cool song. There's nothing remotely sexual.

Is our society really so sexualized that we cannot imagine a man and a woman together for anything other than sex? Even when the woman is a child?
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>>52771838
Pedo.
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>>52771838
honestly, I completely agree
there's nothing remotely pedophilic about it
the media just needs something to accuse people of
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>>52771838
>>52772016
Are people upset at Sia or Shia ?
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>>52772048
Both. They are one.
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> tfw your ex-gf is a tiny skinny girl with blond medium length hair and bangs
> tfw she's fucking this hairy hipster faggot with a beard now
> tfw this video makes you extremely upset for reasons that have nothing to do with pedophilia
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>>52771838
Because we put a sexual connotation on fucking everything, and most apes don't understand it's fucking metaphorical, and art.
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>>52771838
What really rubs me the wrong way is that Sia apologized for something that other people thought about her video because they were dense
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Uh, they're nude
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it's really something that she apologized for "triggering" people
way to stand up for your art
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>>52772988
nudity is not inherently sexual though
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>nothing remotely sexual.
first 30 seconds she pulls her leg all the way up with her crotch pointed right at him
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>>52772988
no they're not

only the guy has his shirt off
and so what its because hes dancing you expect him to dance like that with a suit and tie?
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>>52772708
pls dont be real
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>>52773028
and this is immediately after he motions to his heart that something is wrong

thus creating a direct correlation between his heart and her crotch
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>>52773049
heh
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>>52773049
sounds like projection m80
seek help before you ruin some poor child's life
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>>52773019
Yes it is
>>52773033

a man dancing in a cage shirtless with a prepubescent girl is pretty suggestive. I wouldn't let my daughter do it
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did he just poke her nipple?
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>>52773085
>I wouldn't let my daughter do it
lmao
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YUCK

did she just sniff his fingers?

good lord

captcha: excretion

they did look like they were covered in shit
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>>52771838
society maaaaaaaaaaan
the system maaaaaaaaaaaan


who gives a fuck
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>>52773085
nudity is not inherently sexual

your just reading into it sexually for no good reason which says more about you than it does the video
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>>52773085
what is inherently sexual about nudity. the only suggestions here are coming from you.
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>4:00
man you're breath stinks
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video literally ends with his face in her crotch
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>>52773085
So all art involving nudity is inherently sexual, disregarding any appreciation of the physical form, or symbolism of nudity meaning vulnerability or innoccence?
If I get a time machine first thing I'm doing is going up to Michelangelo an telling him to put some fucking pants on his scuptures, and paintings.
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Gorgeous video. I watched it like 6 times last night.
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>>52773161
>>52773177
>>52773227
You go to pick up your 13 year old niece, cousin whatever from school and a nude, hairy, overweight 40 year old man is taking a stroll on the campus. There's nothing wrong with this?
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>>52773245
if there is I'll stop I swear
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>>52773245
Of course there is because it's socially unacceptable to do, but nothing is inherently wrong with it. There could exist a society where that is normal and fine.
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>>52773245
Now you are just making shit up because of your own security
We are not saying we are attracted to the people in this video we are saying its message has nothing do with sexuality you fucking ape
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>>52773245
Go make a movie where you are not wearing a shirt and are carrying a 8 year old boy on your back.

There's nothing wrong with this?
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>>52773240
really? damn I only needed twice.
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>>52773245
You are deflecting. I'll ask one more time before I just ignore you.

What is inherently sexual about nudity?
Answer the question is a straightforward manner, not with some bullshit socratic non-answer.
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>>52773245
Dude, you don't even know the difference between social mores and inherent vice. You can stop now.
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>>52773273
Ok, so whats the artistic statement being made in that scene?
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>>52773292
Shia and Maddie represent two sides of Sia's psyche. It means something only to her, we can only draw conclusions. God you are a fucking pleb.
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>>52773292
nudity is more primal and shows what humanity is in it's purest form

it allows for easier display of emotion and is used frequently in art, especially classic art for this reason
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>>52773245
do you happen to have a blog and or tumblr?
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>>52772048
lol I just now got this. I assume thats the only reason he got cast.
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>>52773314
>nudity is more primal and shows what humanity is in it's purest form
Where do you draw this conclusion from?
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>>52773292
There is no statement aside from Sia's own personal experiences, and the message of the song
It's fucking interpretive dance, not some elaborate corporate scheme made by Shia to sniff children
The girl is wearing the exact fucking outfit as the "Chandelier" music video, and people are only in an uproar about this video because it has a manwith no shirt, or pants
For fucks sake the insecurity of you people is mindboggling
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>>52773328
>I'm just pretending to be retarded
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>>52773312
or read the song lyrics

crazy idea I know
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>>52773328
>implying nudity isnt babby's first art project
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>>52773328
dude it's pretty obvious
we didn't have clothes at the start of humanity, they are a social and manmade invention
that's the definition of primal
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>>52773345
The song was written for The Hunger Games. Fuck the lyrics. The video is more meaningful in this case.
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>>52773356
>hey are a social and manmade invention
society maaaaaaaaaan
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>>52773340
>>52773354
So neither of you know?
>>52773356
Why does primal = good/acceptable?
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>>52773354
this nigga gets it
In my photography course most nudes were given low D's
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there is sexuality in it and that frankly should not be a problem. it is not explicit sexuality. there is an artfulness to it that allows for interpretation, including the pedophilic response and it would be ideal if we lived in a world where people could accept that interpretation as food for thought rather than a moral threat.

but aside from that it's a schmaltzy video for a grating song. total garbage.
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>>52773328
While that person did state that as a fact (something you should avoid doing when describing art), it does make sense.
Nude performances can eschew things that the artist considers superfluous to the themes being discussed. Fashion, clothes, social cues such as make up or even traditional hair styles may add something that detracts from the intended message.
In this video all of the meaning and emotion is purely expressed through the dancer's motions and physical expressions(and the song of course), so costumes are superfluous.
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>>52773366
no that was a different version
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its like that sky ferreira album cover
its nudity but it doesnt seem like its sexual, its actually almost unnerving
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>>52773368
i never said it does, i just said that was the artistic statement made

it's not necessarily bad either, it just is the base form of all humanity and art uses nudity for this means

they're is nothing wrong with it outside of what society perceives it as
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Like The Interview the new fad medium for views/money is controversy over quality
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>>52773387
He's trolling, but this is the best answer.
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>>52773368
primal doesnt equal anything but primal. Good/acceptable is something read into it by yourself and/or society.
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>>52773400
>first genocide and nuclear war for music video publicity by 2017
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>>52773387
oh yeah except for the fact theyre completely filthy. there is absolutely wardrobe for this video.

they're obviously meant to be impoverished prisoners/gladiators
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>>52773401
thanks
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>>52773399
Well what do you think society perceives nudity as, and for what reason do you think they perceive it that way?
>>52773414
So its subjective? Which means that if the majority/lawmakers of society consider it wrong, it shouldn't be tolerated?
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Only America is having a shitfit about it. The land where gutting someone with an axe is more "natural" than some tits, and where every man in inherently a pedophile until proven otherwise. And even then, you should still be suspicious of him.
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>>52773264
underrated post
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>>52773399
>>52773414
Don't feed the...oh fuck it. Anarchy.
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>>52773400
been that way since before the Interview. That's just the magnum opus of the movement.
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>>52773428
My response want so much focused on this video because as you said, its not a truly nude performance. It was more about nude performance in general
I like your creative interpretation though
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>>52773432
i think part of society perceives nudity as sexual, that doesn't make it right

the reason we made clothes was for protection from the elements dude, not for some weird ass before-sex ritual
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>>52773473
Still, doesn't nudity cause arousal which makes it sexual?
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>>52773428
The themes are unsurprisingly very similar to Chandelier's video. Isolation, evasion, and Oblivion. This world has been forgotten and everything in it has a fine layer of dust.
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>>52773432
>Which means that if the majority/lawmakers of society consider it wrong, it shouldn't be tolerated?

Consider what to be wrong? Nude performances or nudity itself?
You're treading into very vague territory here when you talk about society and the ethics of lawmaking as personal values come into play there.
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>>52771838
unless, there's something in your brain that quickly associates any sort of interaction between an adult and a child with them having sexual contact, you won't see this as a pedophilic.
also people just want to be mad about something so this seems like a good target
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>>52773435
>Only America
only tumblr which happens to have a large uneducated teenage girl population based in the united states
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>>52773484
nudity does cause arousal
this does not make it sexual
they were also not even nude in the video
the only one that was even mostly nude was shia
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>>52773484
Only because nudity in this society is only seen in a sexual setting. Dogs and cats don't get hot every time they see an asshole because they see 300 a day.
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>>52773490
>This world has been forgotten and everything in it has a fine layer of dust.
damn dude
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>>52773484
Arousal due to nudity is a Pavlovian response. Because porn is the first time we see a stranger naked.
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>>52773533
>Pavlovian
i have never heard this word in my life
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i'm confused. i get the symbolism, but shia could easily fit between the bars of the cage. they really couldn't make them a tiny bit closer together to add a semblance of believability?
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>>52773550
what in the fuck
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>>52773500
>Consider what to be wrong? Nude performances or nudity itself?
Well lets say nudity that's physically exposed to minors? Is that bad to you?
>>52773515
>nudity does cause arousal, this does not make it sexual
Yes it does
>>52773516
Thats not true. We see nudity in movies outside of sex, such as for comical reasons, shower scenes, characters getting out of bed, etc.
>>52773533
>Because porn is the first time we see a stranger naked.
That's an assumption. Its possible to be exposed to nudity in a setting that I described above.
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>>52773484
The nudity itself doesnt cause arousal. Arousal comes from the person experiencing it. The person experiencing arousal reads something from the nudity that suggests sex to them, such as a suggestive pose or "bedroom eyes".
Our society also makes the nude form a sort of forbidden fruit, so even images that arent explicity sexual may become sexual because of that feeling of attaining something or doing something you "shouldnt be"
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>>52772962
that's the shitty thing about how society treat's "celebrities". as soon as you act in some movie or tv show, become an athlete for some team or become a famous musician, people think they somehow have a right to police your activities to the smallest detail. so in someway they have to act how other people expect them too. they can say fuck it and not apologize when they do something that offends a group of people, but that way they'll quickly loose their relevance and their livelihood
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>>52773550
Well then get an education retard.
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>>52773558
in the script he has a boner
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>>52773559
>>52773572
is that bad ive never heard of that word?
it seems like a complete niche word with almost no practicall application unless youre talking about ivan pavlov
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>>52773580
>it seems like a complete niche word with almost no practicall application unless youre talking about ivan pavlov
holy shit
>is that bad ive never heard of that word?
very
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>>52773561
>yes it does
great argument

you can fall of bicycles and hurt yourself
bicycles are weapons
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>>52773561
Would you be willing to say that that is not the experience for most children? The majority of naked bodies belonging to strangers seen from ages 10-16 aren't in porn? Because I would disagree.
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>>52773577
wat.
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>>52773561
>Well lets say nudity that's physically exposed to minors? Is that bad to you?

I do not think that nudity or the human form is something to be ashamed of or hidden as a default. Now, granted I'm not a nudist so I do adhere to certain social conventions when it comes to nudity, but i dont think there is anything wrong with a minor being around nudity.

Sexual content and minors is different however and is alot more nuanced.
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>>52773593
well excuuuuuuuuse me then
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>>52773608
thats why he wasnt supposed to fit through the cage
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>>52773245
shia is only 28 and not overweight tho so it's okay
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>>52773580
Sure it's not used in most daily conversation, but pride yourself on some vocabulary, nigga. It's not a "niche" word, it's fundamental to the study of classical conditioning.
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>>52773612
I'm not mad at you. I'm mad at your parents, community, etc.
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>>52773622
10/10
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>>52773638
>>52773635
give the guy a break, not everyone remembers everything from psych 101 or has the opportunity to take it in the first place
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>>52773622
but boners fold up. towards the stomach. you're telling me a boner would stop him from fitting? shia must be hung like a blue whale.
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>>52773612
You shouldn't feel bad for not knowing a word, to be honest. You probably know it now and that's fine. Not your fault. But it isn't a useless word by any means.
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>>52773635
i have an exceptional vocabulary i just have never taken any psychology or philosophy class in my life so i dont know why i would know the word.

>>52773638
CHIRAQ BITCH
BANG BANG
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>>52773649
>bathing_suit.jpg
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>>52773085
>Yes it is
In my country, there are a lot of nudist beaches and people don't start randomly fucking each other because they're naked.

Sexual thoughts are often the product of circumstances, mood and context. Pure nudity doesn't provoke them unless you read something sexual into it - which you do, apparently.

Do you start masturbating furiously over every titty you see? Your views are so prude and American, it hurts.
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>>52773649
>but boners fold up. towards the stomach.
WHAT
THE
FUCK
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>>52773647
true, I actually just wrote this. >>52773664
Sorry Anon! Words aren't what make you smart or right. Don't think they can.
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>>52773666
>i have an exceptional vocabulary
no you really don't

but squeaky wheel gets the grease
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>>52773666
SATANIC CHIRAQI TRIPS

BANG BANG MUFUKA
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>>52773676
>he doesn't have a folding boner
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>>52773684
stop being a smug lil bitch because you knew the word pavlovian
smh
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>>52773676
ok maybe not "fold" but you know what i mean. even if you have a boner it can be pushed flat against your stomach with no discomfort. now pushing it down is another story.

this is of track. my point was, he can fit through the bars. and that rustled me and my jimmies.
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>>52773684
>no you really don't
says you

>>52773689
NIGGA WE LURKIIIIIIIIN
MA DOGS WE BE LUUURKIIIIIIIIIN
BR-R-R-R-R-R-RR-R-R-R-RAP
IN CHIRAQ FINNA FUCK A BITCH
SQUUUUAAAAAAAAD
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The only people outraged by this are closet pedos in denial.
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>>52773720
poor lil nigga dont know how to tuck yet :(
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>>52773720
alpha as fuck
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>>52773720
and they say jews have tiny dicks
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>>52773748
This might be true. The backlash didn't come from normal people crying pedo, it came from actual pedophiles who were turned on, which actually IS cruel if we as a society say they can't act on their arousal. Sia was justified in apologizing to ACTUAL pedos.
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>>52773761
but wouldn't his head be sticking out? 24 year old who has never tucked here because my head sticks out and I get scared someone will see it by chance.
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>>52773785
What the fuck...
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ok this is getting into a weird area
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>>52773800
You just gotta pull up your shorts, my man.
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>>52773800
Its all about misdirection. Like a magician, wave your hands and shit so that people dont see where the real magic is happening.
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>>52773806
What? The first half? You think it was just white people who were mad at a little girl and man dancing? The second half? You don't think that's cruel?
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>>52773761
you cant tuck without a shirt honestly
you can but it's not going to work well
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Is this Blurred Lines pt. 2?
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>>52773913
you can if you have a little dick booyah
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>>52773971
i am happy 4 u.
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Not sexual.
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>>52774034

Explain how this is sexual
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>>52774034
Oh no his heads on like her stomach patriarchy etc.
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in another similar shot I guarantee you his fuzzy head rubbed her crotch
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