>>52712441 It's irrelevant to the composition, but that's not all that the song it. The recording is part of the piece of art. That's why they have "song of the year" and "record of the year" at the grammies. One is the composition, one is the recording of the song.
one of those words like "quality" with multiple meanings, which gets lost the second you toss it out among a befuddled herd of autists who are trying to dick helicopter themselves to the top of mount goodtaste
>How would you ever know if the artist intended to make something pristine? You can argue that we'd never know for sure, but you can reasonably assume based on the sound. Viper is a more ambiguous case of "genius or retard", but most of the time lo-fi has a sound to it that is clearly distinguishable from "I tried to make it hi-fi and failed".
>>52712506 you're a fucking fool when people talk about Kanye producing, their talking about the track, the beat, the sample, what in many albums would be instruments. It is absolutely relevant to the music's quality.
The other production is the mixing, or the quality of the recording of the music, things such as the crispness of the sound. It has to do with the sound quality which may affect the music quality, but not as greatly as the other kind of production. Kanye may or may not have anything to do with that, I really don't know
I can't believe I share a fucking board with these people
>>52712910 A producer the way Kanye is is sort of more like a composer. The person who writes the music for each instrument, the melody etc. In rock I suppose its also a shared responsibility of the band in some cases
The other kind of producer is more about making sure that what is being played in studio, comes out sounding the way it wants to be heard on a CD, pressing, or even in the context of a concert
>>52713009 Every artist draws inspiration from others. It's not exactly original to play a note on a guitar that has already been played a million times before. It's how you arrange it within the entire song.
Turntablism repertoire has written notation, creating a musical part or score for their compositions and pieces. Great examples are DJ Yoda & Heritage Orchestras Concerto, Martin Tetreaults musique concrete for turntables, Kid Koalas Your Moms Favorite DJ, eriKm and DJ Spookys Ice Music works.
Of course, the history of the turntable being used as a musical instrument though has its roots dating back to the 1930s, 1940s and 1950s when musique concrète and other experimental composers (such as John Cage, Halim El-Dabh, and Pierre Schaeffer), used them in a manner similar to that of today's producers and DJs, by essentially sampling and creating music that was entirely produced by the turntable. Cage's Imaginary Landscape No. 1 (1939) is composed for two variable speed turntables, frequency recordings, muted piano and cymbal. Even earlier, Edgard Varèse experimented with turntables in 1930, though he never formally produced any works using them.
This school of thought and practice is directly linked to the current definition of hlp hop-related turntablism, though it has had an influence on modern experimental sound artists and composers such as Christian Marclay, Kid Koala, Otomo Yoshihide, Philip Jeck, DJ QBert and Janek Schaefer. These artists are the direct descendants of people such as John Cage and Pierre Schaeffer and are often credited as a variant to the modern turntablist DJ and producer.
Saying that the value of music is independent of the production is like saying a band is good independently of it's guitar player (let's imagine said band has a shitty guitar player). Because I can have a great idea for a guitar riff, but if I can't play the guitar I won't make that riff, the same way I can record a great song but if it isn't well produced it won't sound exactly the way I want it, even if I want it to be all lo-fi and shit.
>>52712645 You don't just use high end equipment to accidentally produce hi fidelity recordings.... Go ahead and try to find good mic placement and choosing appropriate preamps and eq and compression settings by accident.
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