why does fantano ride their dicks so hard?

>>52673319
He likes them?

>>52673319
because fantano doesnt really like hip hop at all in the first place so when a group does something thats outside of the box he likes them like clipping for example they have noise into hip hop. no 1 has done that b4 amiright??
>>52673342
9/10

>>52673319
Because it is a good hip hop album and Run The Jewels a shit.

>Relatively common hip-hop tropes combined with irritating noise
>Good

>Ignorant, cringeworthy lyrics
>They're intentionally bad so it's okay

I'll admit the guy's a talented MC, but they don't do anything interesting with it.

bc fantano is a raging homo

>>52673365
I never really liked hip hop growing up so I totally feel like this applies to me. I had only listened to enough to have an idea on what cliched hip hop was, so unorthodox hip hop is how i got into it.

>>52674607
what hip hop do u like anon? im kinda the same way but i appreciate the OGs

>>52673365
I'm kind of the same though. Hip-Hop is largely stagnant and uninspiring. Name one Hip-Hop album with a serious demeanor outside of "the urban struggle" AND CHALLENGING composition.
You probably can't name one.

> caring about the needle dick

>>52674666
>clipping
>having a serious demeanor
TWRK SUM GIRL TWRK SUM GIRL TWRK SUM GIRL TWRK SUM GIRL TWRK SUM GIRL TWRK SUM GIRL TWRK SUM GIRL TWRK SUM GIRL TWRK SUM GIRL TWRK SUM GIRL

>>52674874
I never said Clipping is.

>>52674885
ok then what is

>>52674924
I honestly wish I could tell you but I haven't encountered any.

>>52674938
what music do you like

>>52674964
Pop music

>>52674964
That's a loaded question. I could reply close to anything and it'll be turned against me.

I just want somebody to provide some serious, challenging Hip-Hop. But they can't.

>>52675000
Challenging hip hop? What do you mean? Have you ever listened to the new run the jewels album by the way?

>>52675000
>somebody to provide some serious, challenging Hip-Hop
I honestly could but idk what you like so i cant ur not helping me here bud just answer the question fuck.
>>52674970
lold

>>52675034
>>52675047
Hip-Hop in shifting time signatures, with sophisticated, rich harmonies, with broadly sweeping language addressing a variety of topics.

>>52673319
>why does fantano ride their dicks so hard?
Death Grips became popular

>>52675088
>Hip-Hop in shifting time signatures
p easy
>with sophisticated, rich harmonies
Not at all.
>with broadly sweeping language addressing a variety of topics.
Looks like somebody has never read real poetry

>>52675088
I think you're thinking "challenging" hip hop too specifically, and what you really mean is just your hip hop taste. I don't really see rich harmonies being challenging but alright.
I only truly listen to rap, I have some hip hop albums but i'm prettu sure you wouldn't like them. Hip hop was loved back then because of the meanings it had. People related to it because of how they lived, so it's alright man. Just move on.

>>52675148
All I'm asking for is Hip-Hop which can utilize two out of three of these items.

>>52674666
You can't seriously be implying that there aren't? You're saying all this and you're admittedly ignorant of hip-hop.

Anyway, like 4 Kanye albums fit into your arbitrary criteria.

>>52675088
Name one popular music genre that does that.

If you can't relate to hip-hop, just say so. If you want what you asked for try Milo and Busdriver.

>>52675199
Into this criteria? >>52675088
definitely not

>>52675194
None of those exist in popular music.
>>52675202
Only the borderline relate to hip hop.

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>>52675088
Milo - A Toothpaste Suburb

Has everything except the shifting time signatures.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=wvROYsgU-7U

>>52675202
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=53QdVDAuriQ
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=IO17WyaU2mE

>>52674666
How is the urban struggle not a serious demeanor? But to answer your question, listen to Eyedea and Abilities - First Born or Atmosphere - God Loves Ugly

>>52675211
Well he does have pretty well produced harmonies and does talk about topics broadly. So yeah.

>>52675255
Because it's shallow and earthly, whining about not getting enough food stamps isn't interesting
>>52675238
>>52675245
>>52675278
None of these apply.

>>52675235
>None of those exist in popular music.
>>52675245

>>52675238
Really enjoying this. I get a bit too much of a goofy vibe from it though.
>>52675255
Because every album is about the urban struggle pretty much.
>>52675278
He comes close but he's not the perfect match.

>>52675211
You didn't say that originally and that wasn't the post I responded to so, no. But obviously, what you're looking for is not in hip-hop.

You can go back to your ultra-sophisticated death metal in the meantime and continue to refer to everything that approaches THAT arbitrary quality criteria as "memerap".

>>52675350
>your ultra-sophisticated death metal
oh shut the fuck up
>>52675245

>>52675331
nice b8

>>52675336
Doesn't apply.

Get an education.

>>52675382
>shifting time signatures
Check.
>rich harmonies
Check.
>lyrics with broad topicality
Iffy on IWTBW but check for Tallest Man.

>>52675374
How about you. Your dismal of entire large section of music is so ridiculously narrow-minded that it doesn't even seem like you're a fan of music at all. Or at least, you can't form an opinion outside of the most pompous of /mu/ niches.

>>52675379
Non-argument
>>52675407
No?

Are you a fucking moron?
>>52675430
Hip hop isn't music, and certainly isn't a large section.

>>52675331
>>52675336
Just because the urban struggle is a common theme doesn't make it boring. It's much more interesting and real than most of the topics other music touches on, and is actually relatable, but I can see how someone who can't really identify with urban life could get bored of it.

>>52675430
It's not like I DON'T listen to music that doesn't incorporate this. But sectors of Rock do this. Sectors of Pop do this. Sectors of Electronic music do this.

But Hip-Hop can't do this without sounding goofy. As if it were a joke.

>>52675459
Nice try /classical/ troll.

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>>52675459
>Hip hop isn't music, and certainly isn't a large section.

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>>52675459
>asks for hip hop recommendations
>attacks us for giving him some
>criteria is vague
>anything that fits his criteria does not fit his criteria

>>52675503
6/10 b8, slightly mad

>>52675503
>>52675512
He's not me. He's a /classical/ troll.

>>52675464
>DA FUGGIN STRUGGLE NIQQUH HOW IMGUNNA GIT DA ROCK WIT FOOD STAMPS??
>interesting

It's shallow horsepiss that only morons (you) relate to.
>>52675503
Non-argument.
>>52675512
I'm not him, moron.
>>52675524
Not everything you dislike is a meme.

>>52675483
>with sophisticated, rich harmonies
>with broadly sweeping language addressing a variety of topics.
>"lel, that's never been done in hip-hop"

How do you have such faith in your glaringly blatant lack of knowledge on a subject?

>>52675560
I've offered EVERYONE multiple chances to disprove me.

I've gotten one album so far.

>>52675576
And that album was?

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>>52675524
Oh okay. Well just take the recommendations we gave and search around that. We don't know your "exact" taste and can't really help to that degree.

>>52675586
The Milo album. toothpaste suburb.

>>52675552
I'd be curious to know what you listen to, just to see how interesting the themes your music has are.

My college radio station has a category for Most Annoying Release of 2014 in its year end superlatives and I voted for clppng.

>>52675576
I gave you Eyedea and Abilities - First Born and Atmosphere - God Loves Ugly

>>52675576
Madvillainy
Because The Internet
Doris
My Beautiful Dark Twisted Fantasy
808 & Heartbreak
Run The Jewels
Midnight Marauders
Man On The Moon Vol. I & II
Mezzanine

Want me to keep going or is ignorance still bliss?

>>52675625
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Yyw5OHUDHh4
>>52675675
None of that applies, all shallow lyrically, shallow musically, and rarely goes past common signatures.

Most is in common time.

>>52675661
Ah sorry. I just have yet to check them out.
I don't think Atmosphere's is that harmonically rich though.
>>52675675
>madvillainy
It's just goofy though.
>BTI
Listened to it. It's just not very progressive to my ears.
>MBDTF
>808s
These come close. Overall Kanye's the closest prior to this thread I have listened to.
>RTJ
No.
>Mezzanine
Eh I mean yeah, but clearly different from the rest.

I haven't heard the others though.

>>52675720
What do you mean by harmonically rich? Genuinely curious. I'm not the anon you're replying to btw. This is coming from a moderate Atmosphere fan. A fan of a couple of albums but even that was five years ago.

>>52675713
Talking about mental illness, the negative aspects of drug use and fame, the anxiety of being around people, the questioning of religion and beliefs and suicide are not "shallow lyrically" in any universe.

You haven't heard 90% of those albums, so I can't really expect a valid rebuttal here.

>>52675720
>It's just goofy though.
>Listened to it. It's just not very progressive to my ears.
>No.

Great critique.

>>52675784
In ref to Atmosphere I can't quite say since the last time I listened to a song by him was like 2 years ago in a friends car.
I just don't remember it blowing me away.

>>52675849
What do you want? A fucking paragraph?

All Hip-Hop that seems to try to progress beyond the simple framework of popular music feels like it HAS to be goofy. Imagine if every Prog and Experimental Rock band sounded like Captain Beefheart. It'd be fucking annoying. Or if every avantgarde composer sounded like Charles Ives.

BTI doesn't have anything musically extraordinary to my ears as I recall it. I guess I'll relisten soon.

RTJ has none of the desired qualities so of course its a no.

>>52675789
>mental illness
Something none of them have.
>the negative aspects of drug use and fame
Very shallow, "hurr i did junk now im kleen" isn't deep.
>the anxiety of being around people
VERY shallow, nobody cares about your whiny teenage shit.
>the questioning of religion and beliefs
Dumb 12-year-old crap.
>and suicide
The most shallow.
>MUH GF LEFF ME ;((((((
Pathetic.
>are not "shallow lyrically" in any universe.
Maybe to a raindrop in the Sahara, but to anybody else, yes.
>>52675789
>You haven't heard 90% of those albums,
Heard most by the time I was 14, the rest didn't exist at the time.
Go practice your debate skills on HHH.

>>52675900
My issue is that you're asking for something, getting answers and barely articulated why they don't work for you. Actually, you even admitted that some of the answers did work for you.

What do you want?

>>52674874
>TWRK SUM GIRL
you realize that song is about radical feminism right?

>Twerk somethin' girl, twerk somethin' girl, twerk somethin' girl
>Cut somethin' girl, cut somethin' girl, cut somethin' girl
>Kill somethin' girl, kill somethin' girl, kill somethin' girl
>Eat somethin' girl, eat somethin' girl, eat somethin' girl

it's also about murder and cannibalism...song is like a peter jackson slasher flick.

>>52675907
What is deep lyrically content that you can't belittle with nonsensical buzzword usage?

>>52673319
This album would be so much better with MC Ride on vocals

>>52675907
What the hell do you want the lyrics to be about then?

>>52676047
Jesus, having a good time, and positivity

>>52675907
>>and suicide
>The most shallow.
>>MUH GF LEFF ME ;((((((
>Pathetic.
You do realize Schubert covered these topics too? In an entire song cycle?

>>52676021
All lyrical content is shallow, go read some poetry you ding-dong.

Even the greatest art song is poor lyrically.

>>52676068
Do you realize the song cycle you are implying was written by Wilhelm Müller?
Do you realize he was actually dying, and was very young?

>>52676064
Holy COW, you are a master ruseman.

>>52676171
>Gimme something in X that has Y
>LEL, NOTHING IN X CAN HAVE Y! IN FACT, NOTHING CAN HAVE Y. PERIOD.

Do you think before you type?

>>52676171
>Do you realize the song cycle you are implying was written by Wilhelm Müller?
>Do you realize he was actually dying, and was very young?
Doesn't change the fact it makes Schubert's music shallow and pathetic.

>>52676235
>Gimme something in X that has Y
Once again, I have never said that.
>Do you think before you type?
Do you?

>>52675982
It covers the topic in a very retarded way
Dont tell me you consider those lyrics poetry, even a 12 year old could write better

>>52676285
>I just want somebody to provide some serious, challenging Hip-Hop. But they can't.
>Hip-Hop in shifting time signatures, with sophisticated, rich harmonies, with broadly sweeping language addressing a variety of topics.

[damage control intensifies]

>>52676284
No?

This damage control...
>>52676372
Looks like the mongoloid can't follow a conversation.

>>52676385
>No?
Oh well. I thought I could get ome fun out of the trolling but you're just gonna be a brick wall.

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>>52676303
"a 12 year old could make a better painting"

entry level pleb argument man

>>52675336
>Really enjoying this. I get a bit too much of a goofy vibe from it though.
I don't think Milo's music works without some sort of a goofy vibe. I like Toothpaste suburb as well as Things that Happen at Day/Night. However, I don't think Milo's as deep as he thinks he is. He has some clever lines and references, but the humor makes him a lot more likeable between his best parts, otherwise he would come off as just whiney and scatter-brained

>>52676530
Just admit you only like it because Fatano,pitchfork and /mu/ suck its dick.Learn to form your own opinion pleb

>>52676704
wow i bet you're a really fun guy to be around

how is your music project doing? going on tour soon? getting ready to release another album?

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>>52676770
Yeah Im in a little band called Death Grip maybe you heard of us mane

>>52676837
har har har but seriously clipping is great dude

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=XbU9UUwxBxA

>>52674666
Shabazz Palaces.

It's actually kind of hard to think of albums like that though.

>>52674874
I thinks it's pretty obvious you aren't supposed to take the lyrics of the album literally. Listen to the intro, taking off, inside out, ends and it's pretty clear it's introspective an commentary. Not that it will make you like it if you don't. It's just astonishing that the album went over peoples heads when it's not even a super deep album. I hope people aren't like pitchfork and think the album is literally about Daveed being a drug dealer.

>>52673319
he interviewed them on his youtube channel, he's obviously being bribed because a strong 9 for an album that deserves a decent 6 is crazy

also he's trying to break away from the dg attachment that he thinks his fans think he has

>>52677153
>It's just astonishing that the album went over peoples heads when it's not even a super deep album.
lol this.

>>52677153
>>52677229
nice samefag

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>>52677273
lol nope