Post an album you believe to be flawless.
Then, respond to others' albums with flaws that they have.
Ideally, be specific with flaws to facilitate discussion. For example:
>too much filler
Try giving specific filler tracks.
What about it is obnoxious?
A lot of the songs on that album have too many instruments and the timbres are often pretty shitty (notably banjo and wind). Also so many of the instrumental sections are unnecessary.
I actually fucking love this album so this pains me
a few tracks (Let's Hear that String Part Again..., A Conjunction of Drones..., One Last "Whoo-Hoo!"...) seem kind of unnecessary in the context of the album
but I don't know anything so
Too much filler (One last Whoo hoo, Mary Todd, Drones, Strings Part Again, Riffs and Variations)
Also the end of the album is kind of weak after Night Zombies. I still love the album a lot though.
>too long winded
>album is under a half hour
Too long winded, not all that interesting at times.
>Taking obvious b8
come on you guys...
anyways, pic related for me.
I love this album, its great and its now /mu/core.
Personally I don't think it contains some of the same vibes as Michigan did. I also am an oddball and I think that CPD is an ok song but Romulus is better and more emotional.
Should have ended with a different song.
Very underwhelming compared to his other albums and EPs
>Michigan: Vitos ordination song
>All Delighted People: Djohoriah
>Age of Adz: Impossible Soul
All have memorable enders except for Illinois
>too many instruments
IDK, I think they mesh wonderfully. It's like a chamber orchestra.
I think they're wonderful interludes similar to in Sinatra.
(responding to critique)
Eh, they're so short I don't think they're an issue.
>Too much filler (One last Whoo hoo, Mary Todd, Drones, Strings Part Again, Riffs and Variations)
Again, I feel they're so short that they can't be filler.
>Also the end of the album is kind of weak after Night Zombies.
I typed out an explanation one time but oh well.
>Personally I don't think it contains some of the same vibes as Michigan did.
I don't see that as a flaw, necessarily.
Like I said I typed one explanation about it but I don't want to search the archives for it.
Everyone who says the short instrumental tracks on Illinois are filler would probably not notice if they were merged with the album's songs. This happens on Chicago, for instance. Single exception is Rock River Valley.
Since I recognize there are flaws in ITAOTS (and they make the album even more amazing in a way), here's my second favorite album.
Literally the only thing I can see as wrong with it is that the drone/noise after Static's crescendo goes on for too long.
>inb4 For Dinner
its a nice instrumental to bridge the two centerpieces of the album
I can understand this criticism, but to me it feels like the mood and atmosphere it creates is strong because of those arrangements. I don't know if it would benefit from being more math-rocky.
The last track feels a little bit out of place, other than that and your criticism I think you're right
The bass tone is grating on my ears, I hate that post-hardcore type bass sound. They could have done better with a mellower tone. Also, the lyrics are really predictable and his delivery is very highschool to me, not a fan.
anything you say against this album can and will be refuted
It's been a while since I've listened to this, but I think I wanted a bit more development out of the tracks. I think it settles into patterns a lot and, while they're captivating, they don't evolve a lot.
But again, maybe I'm full of shit because it has been so long.
oooohh I dunno about this one. Only thing I can think is his voice might be a turn off, at least at first. As for Spiderland, I don't really feel like the bass tone is that bad. Much worse on Tweez. Feel like it blends into the background solely to create mood. Didn't even notice it much on my first couple listens. As for the delivery, I can see, but I'm a sucker for that kinda shit as long as it's not super contrived.
the title track is goddamn useless no matter what you say
Some tracks do seem to drag with little progression happening in many places. Still fuckin' love that album doe.
Eh, I feel that there often isn't enough substance in the ambiance. In Geogaddi, I can appreciate the dark atmosphere being set as well as the much darker effects as in Gyroscope. I don't feel like MHTR has as many of those special moments.
would be surprised if anyone here actually listened to this, let alone find faults in it.
more fool me doesn't belong at all and I think the battle of epping forest is just too ridiculous. I like genesis theatrics but that song was just stupid imo. you should have posted foxtrot or lamb
This album always felt like a mixed bag for me.
I fucking love A life of Possibilities, Memory Machine, Gyroscope and Girl O'Clock. Genuinely catchy and interesting songs.
Apart from those 4 though, nothing really stands out. I don't dislike any of the other songs but they just don't grab me as much.
honestly f#a# is the only godspeed album I like very much. lysf just bores me, it has some nice bits but too much nothing happening. f#a# on the other hand is super creative and unique, everything on it seems to fit just right to me. used to listen to that album every day when I got home from 10th grade, magic
always skip that shit. also, i wish that jar part at the beginning of bistro was all at the end of accordion so I could skip past that too
pretty spot on. the only thing that could be wrong is if you don't like the type of music. they really perfected their craft
try and think of something wrong with this.
i bet ya can't.
i agree with the guy who says the lyrics are vapid.
The mastering isn't the best, but I don't really think that's a flaw, it doesn't detract from the experience.
The only thing that I can think of is the transition from Treefingers to Optimistic being too harsh and sudden.
This is the best album they ever did and is the best album of 1967, surpassing Sgt. Pepper, Forever Changes and other contenders.
I love FR and this album in particular. I'm not quite familiar enough to give you flaws off the the top of my head, I just wanted to say something.
the only thing I can give you is the old "Trucker's Atlas goes on for too long" and I still believe that but obviously a lot of people don't.
Eh, Optimistic in general kind of ruins the flow of the album.
Kid A's "hidden track" (I mean, Amazon actually has it labeled as an Untitled track) is actually very necessary.
>that fucking voice
Plus the sound of them as a group as I recall it is pretty stale.
I'll admit that Long distance isn't my favorite song, but I think it helps with the flow of the album. The songs become slower and filled with melancholy after Cowboy Dan, Long Distance Drunk is the last of those songs before it explodes into Shit Luck.
The National Anthem's horns become grating, at a point
The argument that Trucker's Atlas goes on to long is pretty valid, but I think it fits with theme of that song and the album in general without killing the flow of the album as a whole.
i figure that hidden tracks with big gaps are a way for the band to reach the 45 minute 'full album' length because they didn't actually have enough material to fill up 45 minutes and they were contractually obligated to produce a 45 minute album. Maybe not, tho
How 'bout it?
Last track is great, tho
lel, I shared your hype for the first couple weeks I listened to this (I was listening to it constantly, mind you), but that section of weird percussive stuff at the beginning of III. Universe isn't that interesting
rather dated sounding effects, songwriting is extremely static, also his voice
the harp as a solo instrument isn't very engaging, it only really works when VDP is involved, also her voice
incongruous everything-but-the-kitchen-sink type instrumentation at times, convoluted song structuring, emotionally one-note like all emo, also his voice
it isn't as good as TLoP
the noise bits
1. You yourself said in another thread that it is up to the individual to determine if an album has flaws or not.
2. A 6 second "woohoo" is not filler. It's not "turning my head" it's giving a better perspective.
Because of pic related. I don't even know what the last few songs sound like because the first half of the album is so much better.
Huh, I should have more scrobbles for Houses in Motion. I think I used to listen to this album on my phone a lot before I enabled scrobbling on it. But yeah. Last three songs. Who even.
Without its history and its basically being Dilla's last words, it's just an okay album. It isn't groundbreaking and it kind of wears down after its novelty is used up. I'm saying that as a huge fan.
The second half of Raw Power is plain forgettable. The titular power becomes gimmicky after the first couple tracks.
>having a problem with Devil in a New Dress
>Devil in a New Dress
It's actually Kanye's best song. Production is perfect, Kanye actually has good lyrics for once, expertly crafted bridge, and Rick Ross absolutely murders it.
Opinion absolutely discarded.
My only complaint is the crackling vinyl sounds. Other than that, there's only four parts to it. Violins (or whatever the high pitch thing is), Smoky Robinson sample, bass line, and drums. How is that messy? I think they all loop perfectly together.
> two interludes
Are you counting Lost in the World? The only one I can think of is AOTL.
> massive production variation
How is this a bad thing?
RZA. And See Me Now is unnecessary after WWSIA.
Second half is pretty weak and the production values work very well for it... for the first half. It just gets too much after a point. Needed variety, which is funny considering the producer.
Iffy production on songs that deserve better and were changed later on. Swizz, Fergie, Niki Minaj just grates in Monster after a couple listens especially since the rest of it was so much better, Fergie, Fergie, Fergie.
only correct answers ITT
Tomorrow you betray again, that's how the World Turns.. one day you love Ruby the next day you want to insert your finger in his ass.
So I have been dealing the same with the Artists for a long time! .. I almost miss Nina Persson again.
Why? Because you don't let me go, they wanna keep watching me under severe circumstances and even worst... laughing in the street because I have 800 Million in L.A and I cannot reach the place.
Maybe I can, if this Land wasn't so fucking cursed and done.
So what? Crucifixion? My God... you're still in the 0 year don't you? when you remember Christ and the Idea you have of him... because you cannot have him inside and follow and pray to someone who boosts you with Gold and Food, it's not my Father you pray to... and if it's not God it's the Devil.
And you don't follow my Plans either, you just try to bring your shit on the Catpcha as well.
It's literally everyone's second favorite Radiohead album, behind either OK Computer (dedicated fans), Kid A (/mu/tants), Pablo Honey (blame Creep for this), The Bends (rock diehards), or Amnesiac (for /mu/'s contrarians).
Outro != interlude, although I understand either way.
Beautiful Way gets a little old, sometimes. But that's really the only flaw I hear.
The last track is a snooze.
Can't really find a flaw persay, but I just prefer Dirty Mind and Sign o the Times.
the songs all seem very half assed and boring. even songs like all i need which are supposed to have some sort of build up come across as droll and non-progressive. the album gets off to a strong start only to peter out with the last track being essentially thom yorke's drivel layered over a piano loop for a few minutes. radiohead's laziest release second only to the king of limbs, overall 4/10
this is my actual opinion btw. i don't understand all the hype for amnesiac, in rainbows or the king of limbs. all their other albums (minus pablo honey which i've not heard) seem much more inspired, energetic and creative to me.
Really? In Rainbows' songs are pretty fucking captivating. They are fantastic tunes, very catchy, with nary a note out of place. And all the while they manage to add wonderful edges like the counterpoint of Weird Fishes or the shifting lilt in Faust Arp.
Trucker's Atlas could have been 6 minutes and still would have been just as good, and wouldn't have ended up getting pointlessly noisy.
The only things I can really think of are
1. too long, which I can understand
2. some tracks can feel random, which I can understand too but I like the variety
Ugh I hate when it randomly goes poppy.
Breaks the mood entirely.
Eh every song is just "all right." There's nothing spectacular about it.
I guess it'll be me
>Yum Yab Killers
>Ugh I hate when it randomly goes poppy
such as... when?
Also, I do have a criticism for it myself, the production is fucking terrible when played through most speakers. It sounds great on headphones, but through a lot of speakers I've tried to play it on, it sounds tinny and annoying.
>no good songs on that album except for Famous Friend
>literally the least memorable song on that album
I think that song is great, obviously, but I actually can't believe somebody could like that song over all of the fucking amazing tracks such as Call Out, Beach Community, or Constant Headache. That album was captivating for me from the very beginning, quite the opposite of boring. I guess I can respect your opinion, but I can't say I understand it even a little bit.
Plastic Ono Band anybody? Best record of any Beatle post-Beatles (and better than a few of their LPs)
IDK, I just remember listening to the Intro, getting really immersed, and then once "SYLVIAAAAAAAAAA" hit I was really disappointed. standard verse-chorus or whatever.
disrupts the flow and subtle feeling
Yum yab really grew on me, but I do think its definately one of the less interesting tracks. It should have been put later on the album and not after helpless child and live through me which are just so good.
Bring it on
Pretty close, but I believe some more elements could have been incorporated, like in the previous two albums. IIRC some of the songs even had piano parts that went unplayed.
Not a huge fan in general. Doesn't seem very creative to me.
Very nice albums, don't have much against them
It has nice tracks, but some like Drunk Girls just seem uninspired, and really shitty.
The second half of IV. Mount Eerie is shit, and I don't really like how it ends. He could have incorporated much more, but still easily almost perfect.
It feels weak at times, and bland as there is more focus on the lyrics than the actual music. Still a really nice, emotional piece of dream pop.
Some tracks drag on, but that's more of a patience thing for me. A very great album, with a mood unmatched by any album I've heard.
well we are kinda opposite then haha i've listened to it like 5 times, didn't remember a single song except for Famous Friend
it just seemed..... half-assed for some reason
also i can NOT wrap my head around the hype for Constant Headache, it's not special at all?
i love this album, too. but it is self-indulgent, and pained with long, dull stretches. they also neglect to use their obvious strengths...if the entire album was like the last two minutes of Apt A (1) it would be an obvious contender for GOAT
The melodies are really well hidden in some of the tracks, usually over the noise, yeah. It's a lot to take in, not knowing where it's gonna turn next, but after getting used to them and recognizing the synthline in the background and where the music will flow to next I found myself humming it while not listening.
I find the melodies themselves quite unique, especially considering what equipment they had and what stage they were at (here's an midi of one of my favorite parts, http://a.pomf.se/bbevka.mid). The production was a little off, which did lead to some inconsistencies.
That's why it sounds noisy to you.
If you get older the sound gets clearer, they made it that way, with tones younger can hear but older people cannot. I'm 22 with shit hearing thanks to concerts, parties whatever, sounds clear to me.
That lullaby song is kind of out of place.
They sound pretty bad when they're all singing and trying to harmonize, like on the FUUUUUUCK OFF GEEEEEET FREE part, it sounds out of tune and not good.
Gr9 album though.
I actually like Efrim's voice.
just goes downhill after penny dreadfuls. hurts too much to listen through in one sitting. all the melodies start to sound the same when they are all threaded through the same painfully abrasive effects pedal. the album in itself is a great concept - that is, a foggy nostalgic callback to childhood through adult glasses or what have you - but not every individual track is strong enough to make the record continually exciting IMO
while I do absolutely LOVE the atmosphere on this album and think it has many great songs, other songs I don't are that great. I still believe its anco's simplest album (not a flaw really), but tracks like Bat You'll Fly and Penny Dreadfuls, king of like>>52644526 said, have great feels to them but just dont have strong melodies.
Falls off a fucking cliff after Once in a Lifetime
Love this album but there can be some points where it feels uninteresting
Some songs run a little long
Roger Daltrey bathing in Beans makes me sick
Cheesy as hell
Compositions are too simple
Love this album but Sloop John B
Side 2 is meh
That's only the first track, though. The rest of the noise was intentional and is pretty clear to any age.
Fair enough, especially considering much of the tracks seem drawn out. It took me individual listens to each track to value them as a whole.
Huh, normally Penny Dreadfuls is one of the most appreciated for their melody, La Rapet is normally considered the unmelodic one. Each to their own, but once again you really have to pay attention.
Doppleganger could maybe be shorter but I like the second half better anyway.
Bear ruins the flow of the album, the weird noise section at the end of Epilogue are unnecessary. In the only instance I can think of, it would have benefited from a few minutes of silence between Wake and Epilogue.
Awkward pacing, TINF and WWLTSOITS seem like filler. I don't like the ending of Earthmover, they should have gone out with the sludgy style they used on the second verse. The drop feels self-indulgent and goes on too long.
I was actually about to say that this one was frontloaded, but to each their own I guess.
For me the middle and end sections just kind of move along. It's great music, but it's almost too relaxed.
Can't think of a single thing wrong with this other than how short it is.
Winter Wonderland is a very mediocre track, however works well as a followup to #1
I just think the song is too simple for its running time, i really noticed it when i got the sheet music. The same verse melody is pairred up with the same chorus for a very long time, and Yes, I do really enjoy his vocals on it, the climactic-ish ending, i just feel like it does not have enough variation that is necessary.
Also that zipper sound at the end is just too out there imo